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Does anyone have docs for a Ventel brand MD212-plus modem?

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

Hi, All, A friend of mine just returned a modem he got from me decades ago, a Ventel MD212-plus. It's an early-1980s non-AT-command-set autodialling modem. The settings are adjusted via a pair of 10-pin DIP switches accessible from the back. I've checked the web and bitsavers. So far, all I've found is some old Usenet articles and a couple of pictures, but no manual or jumper guide. One "feature" is that it lacks a modular jack to plug into the phone system. Fortunately, my friend kept the proprietary DA15 cable. I've never seen that choice of connectors on any other modem. Does anyone have any Ventel docs? Thanks, -ethan

8 years, 4 months

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Digital archiving tools

by wmaddox＠pacbell.net

Many of us maintain large collections of bits that we'd like to preserve over a long time, and distribute, replicate, and migrate via unreliable storage media and networks. As disk sizes (and archive sizes) have increased, the probability of corruption undetected or uncorrected by the mechanisms normally built into disk drives, network protocols, and filesystems has increased to a level that warrants great concern. I would be interested to know if there exists an archive format that has the following desirable properties: 1) It is well-documented, and relatively simple, to facilitate its implementation on many platforms present and future. 2) It supports some degree of incremental updating, but need not be particularly efficient about it. An explicit compaction operation is preferable to an overly complex format. It is adequate to use append-only strategies appropriate for write-once media. 3) Insertion and extraction of files, copying of the archives, and other archive-manipulation utilities support end-to-end verification that identical bits have been stably recorded to the media, bypassing or defeating platform-level or hardware-level caching mechanisms. Where this is not possible, the limits must be carefully delineated, with some basis for determining the properties of the platform and certifying reliability properties where possible. 4) The format should provide for superior error detection capability, designed to avoid common failure modes with mechanisms typically used in hardware. For example, use a document-level cryptographic checksum rather than a block-level CRC. 5) The format should include a high degree of internal redundancy and recoverability, say, along the lines of a virtual RAID-array. Just as biological organisms constantly correct DNA transcription errors, the idea is to have a format that is robust across long-term exposure to imperfect copying and transmission channels. Does anything like this exist? --Bill

8 years, 7 months

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Scraping DEC Equipment

by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message ----- > Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 22:56:32 -0500 > From: Daniel Seagraves <dseagrav at lunar-tokyo.net> > Subject: Re: Scraping DEC Equipment > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Message-ID: <C7A98127-DFF4-41B1-A6AF-5DFCA234D286 at lunar-tokyo.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I need a tractor feed assembly for a LA100, are the ones on the 120 > compatible? ----- Reply: Apparently not, but I might have one for an LA100. mike

9 years

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Tektronix 4404 servcie manuals needed

by g-wright＠att.net

I would like to get a Tek 4404 computer going but lack any service manuals. The system turns on but has no curser on the screen. Has good power from the Power supply and heater is on in the CRT. Has a row of LEDs on the mother board. Does anyone know how to read these. - Thanks, Jerry

9 years

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Servant .953

by roger.holmes＠microspot.co.uk

On 7 May 2010, at 08:25, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 16:06:37 -0700 > From: Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> > Subject: Re: Servant .953 > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Message-ID: <4BE34B7D.6060902 at bitsavers.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 5/6/10 2:23 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: >>> Al Kossow wrote: >>>> I am interviewing Andy Hertzfeld tomorrow, and had hoped to talk about >>>> Servant, but I can't find a copy of it around anywhere tonight. > > A huge thank you to Nigel Williams who forwarded a working copy of .951 five > minutes before Bill and Andy arrived. We spent an hour talking about MacPaint > and Quickdraw (Apple has finally given CHM approval to make the sources available) > then another hour on Alice, Dali Clock, Servant, Hypercard, and Magic Cap. Could you please clarify, the QuickDraw source is available for what purpose? Could developers modify it any include it in heir commercial 64 bit Intel applications for instance? Is the source Pascal, Assembler, C or something else? Roger Holmes, Director of Microspot who has a Carbon application which compiles with over 10,000 warnings about deprecated QuickDraw calls.

9 years

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Any word on the Multics revival front?

by madcrow.maxwell＠gmail.com

When Multics was officially released as free software a couple of years ago, there was a flurry of activity aimed at getting some sort of emulator up and running to run it. Did anything ever come of that or did folks just lose interest (or find out that the needed GE/Honeywell hardware was too poorly-documented to write an emulator of) Mike

9 years, 3 months

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Source for IBM logic probe tips

by h.j.stegeman＠hccnet.nl

Hi, Who can help me with a source (not IBM) for logic probe tips used with IBM MST and SLT backplanes. See: http://home.hccnet.nl/h.j.stegeman/IBM_logic_probes.jpg Prefably the lower one (P/N 453826). Thanks for your replies. Regards Henk

10 years, 3 months

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Stardent 19" workstation monitor

by vcf＠siconic.com

I have a monitor for a Stardent workstation. It's a re-badge Sony, model number 130-0001-01. Free for pickup, or 1.2 * cost of shipping to recoup time and trouble if you want it shipped. Please respond soon if you are interested as it will be going off for scrap in a week if there are no takers. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

10 years, 10 months

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6809 SBC

by lynchaj＠yahoo.com

http://classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2010-January/282022.html It always suprised me that hre BBC micro used the 6502 rather than the 6809. By the time the Beeb was designed, Acorn had made a 6809 processor board for their System machines, so they must have had experience with the chip. THe Beeb is nice, but a Beeb with a 6809 processor would have been something else :-) -tony Hi! When I designed the N8VEM 6809 host processor it is loosely based on an article I read for the BBC computer called "Dragon in the tube". I am not very familiar with the UK microcomputers but apparently 6809 "coprocessors" were fairly common peripherals on their Z80 and 6502 designs. I used a similar concept for the N8VEM to allow its Z80 SBC to access the 6809 as a "host processor" peripheral on the ECB. One of the builders was able to get CUBIX running on the N8VEM 6809 host processor using the Z80 as its "IO processor". However, I can see how the implementation can get confusing because it is either a Z80 based system with a 6809 coprocessor or a 6809 based system with a Z80 IO processor. In reality it doesn't really matter but it's a matter of perspective. The N8VEM 6809 CUBIX implementation allows the use of ECB peripherals like IDE, video, floppy, serial, parallel, etc but it requires the Z80 to serve all the IO based on 6809 commands. I added the 6809 IO mezzanine board (power, ACIA, PTM, 2 VIAs, expansion bus) to give builders the option of using the 6809 host processor as a stand alone computer or to add separate IO to the N8VEM system when connected to the bus. The idea being to let the 6809 host processor interact with the outside world using its own IO and only involve the Z80 when absolutely necessary. The hardware seems to work OK but we'll see where the software goes. I think with CUBIX the 6809 N8VEM system becomes a lot more practical. The IO mezzanine fits on top of the 6809 host processor. You can see some photos here. These are out of date but give a good idea. Recently I fitted an improved serial cable and the nylon standoff hardware. Also the PTM seems to be working and that's good. http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/browse/#view=ViewFolder&param=m6809 I have many 6809 host processor and IO mezzanine PCBs so if anyone is interested please let me know. This would be a great opportunity for anyone who would like to do some 6809 hardware and software hacking. I think the N8VEM 6809 host processor is the only system I am aware of other than Dave's homebrew that is running CUBIX. There maybe some other homebrew systems out there too I can't find them after some searching. Thanks and have nice day! Andrew Lynch

11 years, 2 months

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VT-180 (Robin) EPROM images?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: VT-180 (Robin) EPROM images? > From: "Robert Armstrong" <bob at jfcl.com> > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:23:04 -0800 > To: <cctech at classiccmp.org> > > Does anybody have images of the v2.1 Z-80 firmware for the VT-180 (aka >Robin) ? At least, I think 2.1 was the last version ever released. They >should be DEC part numbers 23-017E3-00 and 23-021E3-00. > >Thanks, >Bob Armstrong I have enough of them laying around I could supply the actual roms. I've never imaged them as It's easier to replace the code outright. Curious why are you looking for them? Allison

11 years, 5 months

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DiscFerret: It just keeps getting better...!

by classiccmp＠philpem.me.uk

Hello, folks! Hope you all had a very merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, or whatever you celebrated! Also, best wishes for the New Year, which will be... in around two and a quarter hours in my neck of the woods :) It's been a while since I posted anything related to DiscFerret. Rest assured, I have not been resting on my laurels (Balrog and Lord Nightmare have made certain of that!). In fact, I've just released a shiny new toy for all you DiscFerret owners... Well, two actually! Microcode Release 0026 and C-API 1.3! New in these releases...: - Microcode: - Added a clock divider to the Data Acquisition core. Now you can specify how much timing resolution you need -- 80ns (12.5MHz), 40ns (25MHz), 20ns (50MHz) or the full 10ns (100MHz). When set to 40ns, the DiscFerret matches the Kryoflux for read speed (84 tracks double-sided in one minute and 45 seconds). At full resolution, it still only takes three minutes and 25 seconds to image the same disc. - Completely rewrote the data sync-word detector. All the ripple clocks and clock-domain crossings are gone, and the data separator is FAR more reliable. The capture and lock range is about 20% of the nominal data rate (!), which is more than adequate for most disc drives. The sync word may be up to 16 bits long, and can also include "don't care" bits! - Miscellaneous fixes to the data separator configuration (it was set for a 16MHz clock, but provided with a 20MHz clock. Despite this, it still worked fine!) - C/C++ API - Support added for the new clock divider register. Files are all downloadable from the usual place -- http://www.discferret.com/ (or more specifically:) http://www.discferret.com/wiki/DiscFerret:Downloads And you can, as always, browse the source code here -- http://hg.discferret.com/ On the cards for the New Year -- - Work has started on a new, simplified API. This will make its grand d?but some time in the new year. - I'm working on improving the accuracy of the INDEX pulse storage logic. When finished, this will improve the accuracy of INDEX timing measurements to match the data timing measurements! (This is a minimum of a factor of 8 improvement over the KryoFlux analyser, and a factor of 128 improvement over the current microcode release!) Special thanks for this release are due to: Rich Thomson, Karsten Scheibler, Sarayan, Balrog, Lord_Nightmare, ... and anyone else I've forgotten! Thanks! -- Phil. classiccmp at philpem.me.uk http://www.philpem.me.uk/

11 years, 8 months

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Compaq SLT/286

by aw288＠osfn.org

Like the Sanyo just yesterday, I have a Compaq SLT/286 portable computer taking up space. Very nice condition, with power unit, dock, and bag. Any interest CHEAP? I am located in New York, zip 10512. Unlike the Sanyo, if there is no interest, I suppose I will just chop this up. I am desperately trying to clear out a bedroom to work on it - the bedroom that ends up being the junk overflow containment chamber. It would actually be nice to sleep in it sometime. William Donzelli aw288 at osfn.org

11 years, 9 months

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Starting a PDP 11/03

by kelly＠catcorner.org

I have a PDP 11/03 that used to be part of the startup for an 11/780 at the University of Arkansas at Fayettville. The 780 has long ago been scrapped. So, the 11/03 has the following boards: M8017-AA : DLV11-E/EC Single-line async control module (Replaces M8017,M8017-YB) Renamed DLVE1 M7940 : DLV11 Serial Line Unit (SLU, Async) M7944 : MSV11-B 4-Kword 16-bit MOS RAM M7946 : RXV11 RX01 8" floppy disk controller M9400-YE : Bootstrap terminator I also have the RX01 drive. So, other than media, what other options do I need to get this running as an 11/03? Where is the best place to get some basic media images? Is it possible to create boot media on the 8" drives I have connected to my PC using IMAGEDISK, 22DISK or the catweasel? I know a lot of these questions are answered out there, but I've not seen (yet) a simple step by step to get one of these running. I have the opportunity to get a couple of memory boards also: M8044-DB 32K, 16-BIT RAM for LSI-11 M8044-DE 32K, 16-BIT RAM for LSI-11 So, will these work with this 11/03? It seems they will, but I was looking for verification. Thanks for any help, and of course the associated "have you tried googling..." responses. Kelly

11 years, 10 months

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FDOS for Fluke 1720A

by geoffb＠vigilan.com

Does anyone have the O/S, Applications, and Diagnostice disks for this ancient IEEE 488 bus controller (Fluke 1720A)? It used a TI 9900 processor if I remember correctly. The operating system was called FDOS- a custom effort too I think, distributed on three 5 1/4" floppies. This is no longer available from anywhere or anyone, including Fluke. Thanks for any help and/or leads. Geoff

12 years

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Kaypro System disks?

by brain＠jbrain.com

I have been fortunate to acquire a Kaypro system that appears to be in great condition and looks to work. It looks exactly like this: http://www.computermuseum.li/Testpage/Kaypro-I-Micro.htm Thus, it says Kaypro 1 on the artwork Still, the sticker on the rear says Kaypro 2, so I'm confused. In any event, I have no system disks for it (There is a slight possibility they are part of the stash with which the Kaypro was bundled, but it's 100 sq ft of stuff). Thus, I'm wondering if there is a kind soul who might be able to ship me a set of disks. (I'll pay shipping, of course). I also am the proud owner of 2 Obsorne machines (one works, the other seems to have drive issues. They are the redesigned units, but (as I suspected) the systems disks won't work on the Kaypro. Jim -- Jim Brain, Brain Innovations (X) brain at jbrain.com Dabbling in WWW, Embedded Systems, Old CBM computers, and Good Times! Home: http://www.jbrain.com

12 years, 1 month

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CMD CQD-220 ROM fixes

by fraveydank＠gmail.com

A while back, I mentioned that I'd found and potentially fixed the "bricking" problem with the CQD-220. To recap, for those that werent following, the problem lies in the code for the on-board 8086 when you set the number of both disks and tapes to zero. The 8086, during its routine to load the values from the EEPROM, loads the total number of disks and tapes and executes a loop with a counter predecrement; if the counter is loaded as 0, it effectively runs through the loop 256 times instead of 7 (the max), which spins out of control and blows away some RAM somewhere before crashing. Fortunately, through a compiler bug or some such, there are 5 bytes available from a totally redundant instruction (loading a value into a register where the same value is already loaded) in just the right place to test the total number of devices and jump to the "uninitialized device table in EEPROM" section of the routine if it is zero. With one byte to spare! (good thing NOP is only a byte in 8086) This applies to the A7A revision of the ROM, anyway; I haven't gotten to the A8 version yet, though I know it exhibits the same bug. Hopefully it also has the same redundant instruction. In any case, I should be able to find and fix it quickly once I have the time, because I know where to look. So, here's the thing; I've finally gotten the time to test the fixed ROM image (was temporarily short of 27256 chips, but that's been resolved) and I'd like to get the fixed images somewhere they'll be easy to find if anyone else runs into the same problem (this took me over a year of sporadic attention to fix). Does anyone know where I should post this? There's my own website, which is really not a thing anymore, but there are probably lots of places Google is more likely to find. Also, are there copyright implications to consider? I know CMD is long gone, but I still worry about these things. Last thing: does anyone know the difference between the A7A ROM and the A8? I've not found anything different; I assume it's probably an obscure bugfix. The images are only 64K total, so I shouldn't imagine they'll be bandwidth intensive. - Dave

12 years, 1 month

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A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing

by lproven＠gmail.com

Tom's Hardware - a popular site for PC hardware tweakers and overclockers - has done an ambitious article on the development of the mainframe: http://www.tomshardware.com/picturestory/508-mainframe-computer-history.html It's a little American-centric but it's not at all bad. -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508

12 years, 2 months

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PCjr Telnet Server Test

by mbbrutman-cctalk＠brutman.com

It's running! Telnet to 97.86.233.68 to take a look and help me test it. You can use the standard Windows telnet program, Putty, Linux, or whatever you have handy. Around 10 users can be on at the same time. When you sign on (no password required) there will be a little menu to help you waste some time. Some things you can do are see who else is on the server, view the machine type, ROM BIOS date and DOS version, check the TCP/IP statistics to see how much traffic it is handling, etc. There are some upgrades since the last time I ran this test (in Dec 2007): - The TCP/IP stack is much better - I'm doing 'telnet' negotiation to figure out the terminal type, turn echoing on, etc - Crude line editing has been added Right now it is running on my PCjr using a Xircom PE3 10BT. I plan to leave it up as long as it runs, or three days, whichever comes first. It is a PCjr so if there is a momentary delay, don't panic - it's probably just doing disk I/O. Backspace is a little dodgy .. it really wants ASCII 8 and a lot of terminals and emulators do ASCII 127 instead. Try variations with the shift and control keys if it doesn't work. Thanks, Mike

12 years, 2 months

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Wait! There's more including MS-DOS 1.25!!!! was Sanyo MBC-550 (Yuck!) software available

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I'm still digging. I found more 550 stuff. I think this is everything that came with the 550. Here's a chance for you 550 owner's to get the whole set at one shot! Original DS-DOS box and invoice. Original Sanyo Easywriter ver 1.3 disk Original Sanyo disk box with 550 dos ver 2.11 and BASIC 1.25, two original Sanyo disk for InfoStar (set B disk 2 and 3 of 4; disks 1 and 4 are below), original Sanyo disk for DOS 1.25 and BASIC ver 1.1 Original Sanyo disk box with all three original disk of set A, WordStar and CalcStar and a backup copy of DS-DOS. Two card board dummy disks used to protect the floppy drives duing shipment. Joe > >A few weeks ago we were talking about the Sanyo 550 series and someone mentioned one of the alternates operating systems that supported 80 track drives in the 550. I said that was DS-DOS by Michtron. > > Today I found an old Sanyo disk package with four disks for the 550. One of them is DS DOS 2.11, one is InfoStar, one is MailMerge/SpellStar and the other is a disk of misc utilities. The first three are original disks. In additon, the InfoStar, MailMerge/SpellStar are Sanyo labeled disks that came with the 550. If anyone wants them, trade me something I can use and they're all your's. > > Joe

12 years, 5 months

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IBM 5151 green phosphor monitors for sale

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

I have a limited number of IBM 5151 monitors for sale. This is the classic green screen monitor that shipped with the basic IBM PC 5150. Condition is adequate. They are dirty but I will clean them up before shipping out. Will test for basic functionality. No burn-in or other problems, but no warranty either. The price is $30 each plus shipping. First come, first served. Please contact me directly via e-mail. Thanks! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

12 years, 6 months

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Gooey TU58 rollers

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: Gooey TU58 rollers > From: "Ethan Dicks" <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> > Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:39:20 -0500 > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > >On 8/27/07, B M <iamvirtual at gmail.com> wrote: >> I am trying to get a Vax-11/750 machine up and running. It looks like the TU58 drive >> is suffering from the 'gooey roller syndrome'. > >Unsurprising. > >> I see that people have successfully used 1/2 inch (ID) Tygon tubing to replace the >> goo. Is there any specific type of Tygon tubing (eg. R3603, R2000, etc.) that is used? > >I don't know the particular variety I used in mine - I just went to >the Lowe's down the street and bought a foot of 1/2" ID tubing - >whatever they had on the shelf. I was unaware of a large amount of >varieties of tubing, so I just used what they had in stock, and it >worked perfectly. > >-ethan I started that many years ago like 1995ish. I spec'd Tygon (brnad name) as that was available to me. Most any generic Vinyl tubing works so long as it fits tight and has enough wall thickness. After about 10 years it tends to get hard, the fix is obvious. Allison

12 years, 6 months

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Wanted: Research Inc. Teleray terminals

by legalize＠xmission.com

I'm looking for more information on the Teleray series of terminals >from Research, Inc. (Note: Teleray is the name of the terminal line, not the name of the company! Although later they referred to themselves as the "Teleray Division" of Research, Inc.) In particular I'm looking for manuals and other documentation. If you have a Teleray terminal and you're looking to get rid of it, I would be interested in purchasing it from you. I know of the following models: Year Model 1971 Teleray 3300 1975 Teleray 3900 1976 Teleray 3811 <1977? Teleray 3541 <1977? Teleray 3741 1977 Teleray 3841 1977 Teleray 4041 1978 Teleray 1061 1979 Teleray 10 1979 Teleray 11 1979 Teleray 12 1980 Teleray 14 <1981? Teleray 100 1982 Teleray 16 1985 Teleray 20-7305 <1990? Teleray 30 Thanks! -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 version available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

12 years, 7 months

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Texas Instruments 960B

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> does anybody have bits for the TI 960B (not 960A) minicomputer, e.g. > software, schematics etc. ? I have some additional material on the 960 that isn't up yet on bitsavers. The 960 and 980 share some peripheral interfaces. Did you end up with the 990 system as well?

12 years, 8 months

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Service bureaus (Was: Tek 4051 firmware listing

by dm561＠torfree.net

Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 15:08:12 -0800 From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> Subject: Re: Service bureaus (Was: Tek 4051 firmware listing <snip> After that, I learned to drop by keypunch to occasionally chat with the ladies (it was comprised entirely of women), and occasionally drop off some munchies and other things. They knew me and I knew them. And I never had an issue with keypunch after that. --Chuck +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ As a matter of fact my very first job was also in a service bureau and that's where I also learned the importance of being able to charm the ladies, a skill that's served me well (and gotten me into considerable trouble) in subsequent years... mike

12 years, 9 months

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Apple ][ disk/game server

by legalize＠xmission.com

This is a nice idea! Feeds the disk images to your Apple ][ by hooking up your ipad/computer/etc. audio output to the cassette input. <http://asciiexpress.net/gameserver/> <http://asciiexpress.net/diskserver/> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 version available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

12 years, 11 months

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NEC Spinwriter 5525 available

by iamvirtual＠gmail.com

[I hope this is on-topic; I believe the machine is at least 20 years old] I have a NEC Spinwriter 5525 printer that is available for the cost of shipping (free if you pick it up). The printer is a wide carriage and appears to have a RS232 serial interface. I do not know if the printer works or not. The machine is located in Langdon Alberta Canada (postal code is T0J 1X1) which is approximately 10 minutes east of Calgary. The machine is rather heavy. I estimate 50 pounds or more. If there is no interest, the machine is headed to the e-waste recycling. I can send pictures upon request. Contact by e mail: i a m v i rt ihatespam u al @ @ @ g ma il . c om <-- remove spaces and ihatespam Thanks! --barry

12 years, 11 months

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Has anyone ever heard of theProtec Microsystems PRO-83?

by rdcoll＠hotmail.com

Hello everyone, I just joined this mailing list today on the advice of more than one vintage computing contact. I was wondering if anyone could tell me anything about the Protec Microsystems PRO-83 Z80 Single-Board Computer. I have conducted an exhaustive search of the Internet and found only two sites (one from a surplus store and a picture of it from a museum). I would appreciate any information available, especially information regarding the power supply and peripheral devices. Thank you very much. Rob _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

13 years

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HP 3000 micro gx booting MPE/V, Help >>>>

by g-wright＠att.net

Any Hp Mpe folks left out there I have non working 3000/37s with possibly good drives and a 3000 micro GX that works but has a bad drive. I have tried to boot the micro GX from the 3000-37 drives and get this far. ---------------------------------------- Cold Boot > HP 32033G.B2.02 Performing a Coldstart Following Volumes not found MH7957U1 List Volume tables ? ---------------------------- Seems to freeze after that. It does this on 2 different drives. Is this even possible to do ??? Does anyone have a OS tape for one of these ??? and which manuals cover the boot menu and/or startup. I would like to get both going but the 3000-37's have dead mother boards. Stan Sieler, are you still around. Seems like every search I do comes up with your name and advice. Thanks, Jerry Jerry Wright g-wright at att.net

13 years

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HPIB cables

by donm＠cts.com

I have a couple of HPIB cables available at $15 the pair, shipped. They are: 1 HP10833A ~42" 1 HP92220R ~12" The 92220R has a right-angle connector at one end and the usual straight connector at the other. (I wonder if the 'R' indicates a right hand connector?) First come, first served. - don

13 years

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Century Data T2000 exerciser

by nasim786＠earthlink.net

Hi, This is a belated response to a post you made here: http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-February/010641.html I happened upon it while doing a 'for fun' search on the net for anything doing with good ol' Century Data, my employer when I was young. Couldn't resist responding to the post, even if it was half a year late! The exerciser that you have is/was for the Trident series of hard disk drives (predecessor to the Marksman). I was the main (in fact, pretty much the ONLY) technician at Century Data/Calcomp, for these exercisers back from the late 1970's to the mid 1980's, when they were phased out. I retired in 1985. Have fun! (BTW, where'd you find one of these dinosaurs??) Take care, Nasim

13 years, 1 month

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Tiny BASIC Extended available

by eds_2＠yahoo.com

Every so often, a discussion of Tiny BASIC appears around here. I was curious about one of the very first versions of Tiny BASIC, the 8080 implementation done by Whipple and Arnold, as documented in the Vol. 1 No. 1 (Jan 1976) issue of Dr. Dobb's Journal (of Tiny BASIC Calisthenics and Orthodontia) This issue contains an octal listing of a Tiny BASIC interpreter for the 8080, and I couldn't find this version available for download anywhere. So... I typed it in, and it works! I documented my work, which is available at http://oss.readytalk.com/tb/tinybasic.tar.gz (Note - this location is temporary - I need a home for this if anyone is interested) Included are the text file for the octal listing, a binary which can be loaded into memory, an attempt to extract the IL from the binary, and some instructions on bringing up Tiny BASIC. I was able to run some simple programs with a Z80 simulator that I've been running, and it appears to work correctly. I found the PDF of the listing in the ACM digital library: http://doi.acm.org/10.1145/987491.987494 Typing in octal listings is error-prone enough, and typing them in from bad PDF scans of bad photocopies is even trickier. I have corrected many errors, but I'm sure there are more. If any kind soul would be willing to proofread / correct the listing, it would be **GREATLY** appreciated. I hope this is of interest to people. I'm very interested in other versions of Tiny BASIC out there, if someone has ever typed this listing before, etc. I'm familiar with Tom Pittman's work, but other resources would be greatly appreciated. -Eric ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html

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WTB: Signetics 2650 Evaluation board PC1001

by pinball＠telus.net

Does anyone have one of these animals? I am trying to reproduce an old video game that was based on it and figured it might be easier with the Eval. board. Thanks, John Robertson Vancouver, BC, Canada

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Spring cleaning Computer sale

by slandon＠centurylink.net

Cleaning out guys.. I got the following that needs homes- All prices are plus shipping or Local Pickup from Flushing Michigan 48433. Folks who do local pickup at my door get an even better deal. Mac 512- Pretty Yellow missing floppy drive. Powers up to ? $30 dollars + Shipping 2 Quadra 610s 1 a 610CD, other a Regular 610.. 8MB RAM in both 80 and 160MB HDDs $20 each plus shipping Power Macintosh 6500/275 32MB RAM 2GB HDD. Has TV/Video System with TV/Video System box, TV Tuner and Remote $40 Power Mac 8500/180 16MB RAM 1GB HDD $30 WorkGroup Server 8550 16MB RAM No HDDs or tape drive $20 Macintosh Plus- No keyboard or mouse.. Powers up, then drops to a white line in screen $20 Tandy 486/33 system.. DX266 OverDrive in it. SCSI CD-ROM, SCSI Card, 1GB HDD $30 AST Advantage Adventure 4/33p 16MB RAM 170MB HDD, SB16, CD-ROM. $30 dollars Apple Disk II Drives $20 each Apple 800k External 3.5 Drives $20 each Apple Extended Keyboard IIs- Lots of em $10 each Dayna BlueStreak 10/100 LC Ethernet Cards New In Box $15 each 20 Apple IIGS RGB Monitors $25 each plus shipping 10 Apple Monitor //s $25 each plus shipping 10 Apple //e Systems $20 each without drives & monitor Toshiba Satellite 220CDS- 133mhz Pentium 32MB RAM 1.2GB HDD No ac adapter, comes with spare machine that needs backlight- $30 Toshiba Satellite 330CDS 266mhz Pentium 80MB RAM 4GB HDD, Ethernet Card $50 Zenith 9 inch Green Screen monitor- works Composite input. $10 dollars Tandy 1400HD Laptop.. Will not power up.. Comes with AC Adapter which tested good Radio Shack TRS-80 Color Computer 1 with original owners manuals, cassette player and software $50 dollars Gateway Solo 9500 Laptop- Has AC adapter, 64MB RAM 30GB HDD- Real Serial Port, Floppy Drive and parallel port and usb $20 50 40GB IDE Hard drives $5 dollars each plus shipping 9 80GB IDE Hard Drives $10 dollars each plus shipping I have a storage unit full as well.. Everything from Molar Macs, to Apple //e's to compact macs. Shoot me an email and lets make a deal so I can have my living room back :P Steve Landon Flushing Michigan- Which is 15 mins northwest of Flint Michigan

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HP-UX 10.20 B4474FA Netstation Software Codeword?

by glen.slick＠gmail.com

I recently acquired an HP Envizex II Netstation X-Terminal which I would like to try out. I have a base HP-UX 10.20 OS running on an HP B160L and I have an original set of HP-UX 10.20 install media CDs, but apparently a Codeword is necessary to install the B4474FA HP Netstation Software from the CD. I don't have any Codewords for this set of install media CDs. Is there any way to obtain a Codeword to install the Netstation Software from the HP-UX 10.20 install media that I have? http://www.hp.com/softwarereleases/releases-media2/media/3710366.htm HP9000 Series 9000/700 HP-UX Application Software CD Part Number - B3782-10366 B4474FA, HP Netstation Software, Codeword Required: Yes, Size: 115622777 -Glen

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how do you crack (open) a Rainbow mono monitor?

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

for the purpose of expunging the screen rot. Need to get behind the screen thingee there

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another hidden pdp11

by nierveze＠radio-astronomie.com

hello all, yesterday my wife and I emptied our garage(25 years of diverse things stocked inside).I found again my hp1000,I saw a vax8200,a a lot of things that suddenly made me rich :-))etc...and I found something I had totally forgotten ,bought a long time ago as a part of lot bought at the near army base:a Tektronix microprocessor emulation system,made of two (big!!!) racks a 8510 and a 8310.I opened them just to see ,and immediately I saw the two purple dec handles in the 8510.... A lsi 11/2 was here.I brought the rack inside ,removed the dust and spiders, connected to the terminal line labeled 'auxilliary' a VT320 and powered it up,after a few tests,I found the correct speed (2400 bauds) and got the odt, using the run/halt switch of the front panel. I has 32k of ram,the console is at correct place,but the fdc is not at 177170,so I doubt it can boot standart rt11.Unfortunately I found an error in the memory:bit 9 of the first 16k bank is stucked to 1,it may be only a ram chip (4116)to change,the 2nd bank is correct,a few test programs were ok. So if you see such a machine it can be useful. I'd like to find maintenance informations about the Tektronix boards. I'try to repair the mem board,and will continue to play with it. Best regards to all. Alain Nierveze 492 all?e Montesquieu 33290 Le Pian Medoc France nierveze at radio-astronomie.com www.radio-astronomie.com

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PDP-8 Switch Handles

by djg＠pdp8online.com

A company has made some replica 8/E handles and has excess they are willing to sell at $1.50 per handle. I think they have around 25 of each color left. Due to the company not wanting to deal with a bunch of small orders I may need to be an intermediary. Pictures of the switch handles next to my 8/E handles and two 8/M handles sitting on top at URL below. It also has a picture of the panel they made. They said ok to share the picture but I can't say why they made them. http://www.pdp8online.com/ftp/misc/switches/ The color of one matches my 8/E pretty well but the other doesn't. You can also see for one of the colors my 8/E doesn't match my 8/M that well either. If interested email me with how many you are wanting of which color.

13 years, 2 months

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What's that TeK Box?

by holm＠freibergnet.de

http://www.tiffe.de/images/Unbenannt.JPG This is one of the things in Dortmund, anyone know what this could be? Regards, Holm -- Technik Service u. Handel Tiffe, www.tsht.de, Holm Tiffe, Freiberger Stra?e 42, 09600 Obersch?na, USt-Id: DE253710583 www.tsht.de, info at tsht.de, Fax +49 3731 74200, Mobil: 0172 8790 741

13 years, 2 months

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Pertec interface

by elson＠pico-systems.com

Well, I did the bit reversal TWICE, so of course the end result was wrong! Fixed that, fixed up a little bug in resetting the file mark detection flag in the wrong place, and I now have a rough program that maps the files structure of a tape. here's a snip of what I got. VOL1RT1101 DD%% 1 HDR1SAMBR .CTL RT110100010001000100 00000 00000 000000RT11 file 0 had 2 blocks 0 errors 0 timeouts blocksize was 512 HDR1SAMBR .BAK RT110100010001000100 00000 00000 000000RT11 file 1 had 2 blocks 0 errors 0 timeouts blocksize was 512 HDR1SAMBR .FOR RT110100010001000100 00000 00000 000000RT11 file 2 had 4 blocks 0 errors 0 timeouts blocksize was 512 and so on. (Note the RT11 header labels above. I sort of thought this tape would have been >from RSX-11M, but it must have been made before we switched. Whew, that's going BACK a ways, about 1976 or 77 when we went to RSX. The actual tape I'm reading was a 6250 BPI copy of the original tape (probably 1600 BPI) from back then. This copy was probably made 15 years ago, though.) I'm now working on a program to move the entire tape to a single disk file with pretty much verbatim bytes from the tape. It will have a 32-bit header for each record of file mark, showing the record size or file mark. Then I can write programs at my leisure to extract files without having to listen to the wail of the Gast vane pump in the keystone tape drive. Oh, the performance seems to be pretty good. it was streaming fairly well at either 25 or 75 IPS in 6250, I suspect it will certainly stream at 75 IPS with a 1600 BPI tape. Jon

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PDP-8 questions

by jgessling＠yahoo.com

Please don't use real rosewood for the side panels.?? Forests around the world are being destroyed for this increasingly rare commodity. Thanks, Jim

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Arcturus Minicomputer

by jon.griver＠gmail.com

*Dear Rod,* ** *Feeling nostaligic, I googled 'Arcturus Minicomputer', and your letter below was the only reference I found. I know the letter is from 2007. I hope the email address is still in use.* ** *I programmed an Arcturus minicomputer at the Atkinson Morley Hospital in Wimbledon from 1973 to 1976. It was used to do image processing on pictures >from the first CT scanner in the world, which was located in that hospital.* ** *All the programming I did on the machine was in assembler. The computer did not have a disk operating system. Every action involved first loading the program you need from paper tape, then the data, etc.* ** *The first thing I did was to write a very rudimentary disk operating system. It took 6 weeks, but it worked.* ** *I knew that Arcturus had installed the monitor system in Gatwick.* ** *Best Wishes,* ** ** *Jon Griver* ** ** ** *Fri Mar 30 02:45:49 CDT 2007* - Previous message: On topic? Looking for old computer book <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2007-March/037565.html> - Next message: NeXTstep: cloning a drive <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2007-March/037495.html> - *Messages sorted by:* [ date ]<http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2007-March/date.html#37488> [ thread ]<http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2007-March/thread.html#37488> [ subject ]<http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2007-March/subject.html#37488> [ author ]<http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2007-March/author.html#37488> ------------------------------ Hi All Whilst sitting on the plane on the way back from Newcastle yesterday. It reminded me of a system I saw at Gatwick airport in the early 1970's. I'm pretty sure it was run by a mini computer called an 'Arcturus'. I can clearly remember the grey rack mounted box with its row of toggle switches and lamps. I was there to install a VDU (sometimes referred to as a glass teletype). The big teletype they drove it from made the whole place shake and the VDU I fitted of course did not. It drove the departure / arrival TV monitors. The way it generated the characters was curious to say the least. It had a large number of circuits which generated parts of characters. One did a vertical bar, another produced a whole circle whilst others output parts of a circle, forty-five degree bars and so on. For each character cell the component parts of the required character were selected summed and added to a TV raster. Does anybody remember the Arcturus? Rod Smallwood

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New software for the Nintendo Entertainment System

by swtpc6800＠comcast.net

Google Maps will release a version for the 8-bit Nintendo Entertainment System. http://www.youtube.com/googlemaps It appears that the NES has a problem with the cartridge connector. Michael Holley

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help with H11 and H27

by rbarline＠mac.com

Hi. Brand new to this list. I joined because based on your past posts I believe you guys might be able to help me with my problem. I just acquired an old Heathkit system consisting of an H19 terminal, an H11 computer, and an H27 disk drive. I have managed to get the H19 and H11 talking to each other (see my short video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzZ3HHd1V3o&feature=youtu.be but I don't have any documentation for the H27 so I don't know how to use it with the H11. I have two floppies that came with it (actually I have a bunch that came with it as shown in my photo gallery http://gallery.me.com/rbarline#100619), one titled "Softech UCSD H11 System Disk" and one titled "Softech UCSD System H11 Utilities". Can anyone help me figure out what to type on the terminal in order to get the disk drive to start the boot process? Thanks in advance.

13 years, 2 months

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Making music with computer hardware...

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

Bohemian Rhapsody http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht96HJ01SE4?

13 years, 2 months

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OSI boot disks

by dfnr2＠yahoo.com

I've got my OSI C2-4P into a basically working state, to the point where the boot code seeks to track 0 and tries to load the OS boot code.? I know I had a couple of plastic disk-boxes with my OSI boot disks and some software, but I cannot find it anywhere.? I do have some C1 Boot disks, but these won't work with a C2.? If anyone with a working OS65D boot disk (and hopefully the tutorial disks) for a C2/4/8 would be willing to make some copies for me, I'd be most grateful. I believe it's possible to reconstruct a boot disk over a serial port, but I'd rather keep that as a last resort.? That would be an exercise much like building a ship in a bottle. Thanks, Dave

13 years, 2 months

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TRS-80 Model II TRSDOS: paranoia strikes deep

by eric＠brouhaha.com

It looks like the developers of TRS-80 Model II TRSDOS were very paranoid that someone might be able to bypass the filesystem and access data on a floppy directly. I'm not sure if their primary concern was file password protection, or if they had other reasons. Obviously you could write a program that accesses the floppy directly, by talking to the FDC and DMAC chips yourself, and there's not really anything that can be done to prevent that. Oddly enough, this was exactly *opposite* to what Apple did in Apple DOS. Apple published the APIs to read and write sectors (RWTS), but never published the "File Manager" APIs that allowed access to the file system through means other than passing commands through the character output vector (e.g., the BASIC statement PRINT CHR$(4);"OPEN FOO"). I'll mostly describe how things work in Model II TRSDOS 1.2, the earliest version I've been able to obtain. I haven't studied 2.0 nearly as much yet. The TRSDOS 1.2 "kernel" consists of three parts, while later versions are more monolithic. The Model II boot ROM loads all of drive 0 track 0 (single density, 26 sectors of 128 bytes) into memory starting at 0e00. First it looks for the four characters "DIAG" at 1400 and "BOOT" at 1000. If either are missing, it refuses to proceed. It calls the code at 1404, which in TRSDOS is a simple hardware diagnostic. When that returns, it jumps to the first stage boot loader code at 1004. Some other operating systems don't bother with a diagnostic, and just start their boot code at 1404, never returning to the ROM. The first stage boot loader actually understands the TRSDOS filesystem enough to find the directory entries of files in TRSDOS load module format, and load them into memory. In 1.2, it loads "IODVRS/SYS" and then "TRSDOS/SYS", and jumps into the latter. The Model II TRSDOS filesystem is similar in many regards to that of Model I TRSDOS, but not enough to actually be compatible. Unsurprisingly, it looks like an intermediate step in the evolution from Model I TRSDOS to Model III TRSDOS. As in Model III TRSDOS, files can only have a single directory entry, with a limited number of extents. IODVRS/SYS contains, as the name implies, the low level I/O drivers for the system, including the keyboard, display, printer, and floppy drives, the dispatching for system (SVC) calls, and a few utility SVCs. However, it only contains the SVC handlers for services 0-28, the I/O functions and basic utility SVCs. Note in particular that it contains no file system code. IODVRS/SYS is conceptually similar to the CP/M BIOS, though lacking CP/Ms charming simplicity. IODVRS/SYS provides several undocumented SVCs for internal use by TRSDOS, including floppy subsystem initialization (13), floppy sector read (14), and floppy sector write (16). Note that at the time IODVRS/SYS is loaded, no call is made into it to initialize it. TRSDOS/SYS, however, is called after being loaded. It basically performs the TRSDOS initialization that only has to happen at boot time. It has another implementation of filesystem reading and load module format handling, very similar to what is present in the stage 1 boot, but now instead of talking to the FDC and DMAC directly, it uses the undocumented floppy SVCs described previously. After various initialization, it loads SYSRES/SYS and jumps into it. SYSRES/SYS contains the filesystem code and other relatively high-level TRSDOS infrastructure code. It generally relies on SVC calls into IODVRS/SYS to perform all I/O, and has very little other dependence on IODVRS/SYS internals. This is conceptually similar to the CP/M BDOS. It loads system overlays to handle some SVCs and user commands. Overlays SYS0/SYS through SYS9/SYS are small overlays, occupying one disk granule (five sectors) and loading into 2200-26ff. Other overlays may be larger, and load at 2800 or higher. Many of the overlays *do* depend on knowledge of the internals of SYSRES/SYS, directly accessing subroutines and data structures without the use of vector tables or the like. This means that SYSRES/SYS and the overlays must have been built at the same time, and would generally not be interchangeable with earlier or later releases. Anyhow, getting back to the paranoia part. Someone apparently decided that simply not documenting the SVCs that provide sector-level access to the floppy was not sufficient to thwart those that might want to bypass the filesystem. After TRSDOS/SYS uses those SVCs for its part in the boot process, it actually *removes* them from the SVC vector table, and sets up jumps to them at undocumented internal TRSDOS locations 1130 (read sector) and 1133 (write sector). In TRSDOS 1.2, access to all of the system files, including overlays, is done through the file system. The system files have normal file system entries. Unlike Model I TRSDOS, neither the system file directory entries nor the file contents need to be in any special location on the disk. In TRSDOS 2.0, things are much more monolithic. The stage 1 boot code only loads and jumps into a single file, SYSRES/SYS. The boot code does not care where this file is located, but other parts of the system do. All of the overlays, small and large, are stored in a single file, SYSTEM/SYS, which is required to start on the track after the primary directory. The first sector of SYSTEM/SYS contains a kind of overlay directory that gives the track and sector numbers at which each overlay starts. There is perhaps some advantage to putting all of the overlays in a single file, since the number of directory entries on the diskette is limited to 96. However, the need for a second, special directory mechanism for overlays is ugly, even if it is only a simple one. Requiring the system files to be at fixed locations on the disk (at least relative to the primary directory) might be a reasonable requirement if it yielded some performance gain, but it generally doesn't. (With 1.2, the system files are set up when the disk is formatted, so even though they *could* be anywhere, in practice they are grouped together.) TRSDOS 2.0 introduced changes to the disk organization, such that TRSDOS 1.2 and 2.0 diskettes are not interchangeable, except that the 2.0 XFERSYS utility can convert a 1.2 diskette to 2.0 format. The disk organization changes are basically gratuitous, and don't provide any benefit to the user, while obviously being a great inconvenience to users with TRSDOS 1.2. They mashed the GAT (granule allocation table) and HIT (hash index table), which were sectors 1 and 2 of the directory track in 1.2, into just sector 1 in 2.0. In 1.2, the directory occupied sectors 3-26, while in 2.0 it occupies sectors 2-25. The only apparent rationale for doing this is to free up sector 26 on the directory track. In TRSDOS 1.2, sector 26 was not used on any track but the directory track, for any purpose. In TRSDOS 2.0, sector 26 of *every* track is used to store five bytes of unique disk ID, to better detect disk changes. (it has been suggested that those bytes might also have been used for software copy protection.) However, rather than mashing the GAT and HIT together, which made it impossible to support larger disks such as double-sided disks, they easily could have special cased the directory track(s) and stored the disk ID in either the GAT or HIT sector. TRSDOS 4.0 introduced much larger changes to the disk organization, in order to support double-sided disks and hard disks. I haven't yet begun to dig into the 4.0 code. Eric

13 years, 2 months

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"Art"

by robert＠irrelevant.com

http://www.etsy.com/listing/95511758/vintage-1960s-ibm-disk-platter-aged-to *Sobs*

13 years, 2 months

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S-100 MS DOS Support board PCBs

by LYNCHAJ＠YAHOO.COM

Hi I have ten (10) remaining S-100 MS DOS Support board PCBs left in case anyone would like one or more. http://s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/MSDOS%20Board/MSDOS%20Board.htm This board should dramatically improve MS DOS compatibility on the S-100 bus using an S-100 8086 CPU board. It can be used by any 8 or 16 bit CPU. Basically it is the guts of a PC/AT motherboard minus the CPU, RAM, and ISA slots. Thanks and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch

13 years, 2 months

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FT: Data General Novas and Desktop Generation (revised from 3/22/12 post)

by js＠cimmeri.com

{revision of first CCTalk post on 3/22/12} Thanks to those who have been inquiring on these items, I can now render a more helpful post. Location: Washington, D.C., or near Frederick, Maryland. For trade (preferred) or best offers: - 1974 DG Nova 2 rackmount (untested, unrestored) top cover missing .Front panel (cosmetics very good condition) .Nova 2 CPU .Standard Memories 16k core .Basic I/O -- all electronics working condition unknown, but appear undamaged in very good condition. - 1971 DG Nova 1200 rackmount (untested, unrestored) w/ all covers. .Front panel (cosmetics -- fair condition) .Nova 1200 CPU .DG 4k core .Basic I/O -- all electronics working condition unknown, but appear undamaged in very good condition. - 1984 DG Desktop Generation R20 (untested, unrestored) w/ D461 terminal .dual power supply unit .R20 SPU unit with SPU, 256k ram, USAM, and asynch modules -- (note: no terminal cables or adapters.) .single drive diskette unit .hard drive unit .tape drive unit .manuals (setting up, testing, users in 2 encased binders) and 3 diskettes. -- all electronics working condition unknown, but appear undamaged in excellent condition. -- cosmetics, very good to excellent. PM me with trades, offers, questions, corrections. Looking for (in order of priority): - PDP 11/04 or 11/34 half-height (only) chassis, complete with PSU, covers, backplane, cables. No CPU or other logic boards needed. - HP 35721A monochrome monitor - Emulex TC12 tape controller or similar: Unibus->Pertec interface which emulates a "TS" device - ribbon cables for above -- controller -> Pertec-formatter tape drive. - Unibus ESDI controller - Pro/Venix docs (I'm using version 1.0 on a DEC Pro 350). - MFM drives: . CDC Wren II 9415-* . CMI CM-5412 . IMI 5012H . Maxstor XT-2085 . Micropolis 1324A . Priam V170 or V185 Thank you, John Singleton p.s. to check my reputation, see my ebay handle "MdntTrain".

13 years, 2 months

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another hidden pdp11

by jonas＠otter.se

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:57:58 +0100 (BST), ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote: > Which has just suggestesd a totally OT queestion to me. Some cultures > prohibit the drinking of alcohol. This is normally taken to mean drinks > containing ethanol. But how do they handle other -OH molecules in foods? Those cultures, and their rules prohibiting the drinking of alcohol, are quite old AFAIK. Without knowing any details of their history, it would seem logical to me to assume that they would not be aware of the presence of other -OH molecules, so they would have no special rules about them. I suppose the rules are religious? If so, some of them may well be reasonable for health reasons, but others would be illogical or based on misconceptions of physical facts. /Jonas

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