The recent discussion on BSC protocol prompted me to dig out my Microvax 3100
with DSH32 synchronous serial interface. It had been idle in storage for
several years and it wouldn't power up, only giving a brief flash on the
diagnostic LEDs and a quick twitch of the fans. There was a slight smell, like
the stale air that comes out of a deflating tyre.
I took out the H7821 power supply and found that five identical brown 1800uF 25V
electrolytic capacitors on the output side had leaked.
The SCSI disk enclosure where the machine's system disk lives required several
power cycles to get it to run at all and it died as soon as the disk tried to
spin up. It turned out to also contain a H7821 power supply which had a
similar issue with the same five brown capacitors, although not as extensive
as in the main unit.
I found a second disk enclosure which had seen little use and grabbed the power
supply out of that to put in the MicroVAX. It worked well enough to test with
but there was a ring of goo around the bottom of one of the brown capacitors
which was worst affected in the other units. Time to order a batch of
replacement capacitors and figure out what else has been damaged. While it is
not the worst I have seen, access to these power supplies for repairs is quite
difficult and it is really difficult to debug them safely while they are
running with the cover off :-(
If anyone has anything with H7821 power supplies in them, I suggest checking
on these capacitors. If anything with these power supplies is in storage, I
suggest ensuring it is stored the normal way up as this should limit the
ability of the goo to escape and spread around the power supply.
And there I was thought I was being safe enough by removing the nicad battery
packs some years ago...
> From: Mattis Lind
> Thanks Noel for sorting this out.
Eh, de nada. But thank you.
>> I wonder if the ucode in the two versions is identical? The uROM chip
>> numbers should give it, (if they are the same on both versions, albeit
>> in different locations on the board), but I have yet to check. Does
>> anyone happen to know?
OK, so the situation here is pretty complicated. To start with / make things
worse, that CPU uses lots of PROMs. Lots and lots and lots and lots of PROMs.
For the data paths board (M7260), both major versions appear to contain the
same PROMs (going by the DEC part numbers), but the chip location (Exx)
numbers are all different.
For the control board (M7261), the C, E ('early' version) and F ('late'
version) etch revisions each contain mostly the same PROMs, but apparently
with slight differences between the sets of PROMs in each (as reflected in
different DEC part numbers). For details see:
to which I have just added all the gory details.
As to getting the contents of all of them dumped in machine-readable form -
>> on the earlier version (prints for that version are in the GT40 prints
It turns out that I have hard-copy prints for the "C" etch revision of the
M7261, which do not yet appear to be online; the GT40 prints have the "E"
I will scan the pages for that revision of the board, and put them up 'soon'.
(I'm not doing the whole print set, it's about 1" thick, and most of them are
for other things anyway, like MM11-L memory, etc.)
> From: Toby Thain
> To get closer I'd need better images of the panels.
Hi, I borrowed a DEC inlay from someone (a KA10 CPU bay) and scanned a chunk
of it (as much as I could fit into my A4 scanner :-) at 200 dpi:
I have a TC08 inlay, but it's currently being used in my QSIC display (until
we can get the RKV11-F/RPV11-D inlay done :-), and I didn't want to yank it
out. As far as I can tell, it's the same font on the two of them.
> the closest I know of off the top of my head is Akzidenz Grotesk.
The Akzidenz Grotesk Medium is indeed very, very close (other than the zero).
Do you happen to know if that font available for use in non-commercial
Next to go is a box in which a Palm Pilot was originally sold.
The box is in great shape, shrink-wrap intact except where it was sliced just enough to open the top.
The manual is in great shape.
The registration card is in great shape.
The order receipt is in great shape, name of original owner mis-spelled but otherwise apparently correct.
The accessories catalog is in great shape.
The software on 3 each 3.5? floppies and on CD appears to be in great shape (not test-read yet).
The Now Sync accessory software, on 2 more 3.5? floppies, appears to be in great shape.
The leatherette protector is in great shape, with its foam insert still inside keeping it shaped for the Palm Pilot.
The DE-9 to DB-25 serial port adaptor is in great shape.
For Pete?s sake, the screen protector that peeled off the Palm Pilot screen is in great shape,
lovingly tucked into the manual.
You have probably noticed what is missing.
There are no electronics included.
No Palm Pilot, no charging/syncing cradle.
You probably want this if you picked up the Palm Pilot at ShopGoodwill somewhere, want to re-create that 1997 ?first on the block with a personal digital accessory? feeling and really enjoy going through the accessory paperwork.
(but I think that is a different model).
Free to a Good Home, preferably one with an actual Palm Pilot. Shipping will be from San Antonio TX, 78254. If as I suspect, nobody interested, headed to the trash. Standard rules, I?ll wait for a week or so, ship to the sender of the first email in my in-box or to Al K if he emails before I ship.
Since a few days, my EXORciser Development System is finally able to boot from floppy diskettes.
Previous attempts have shown that the Motorola EXORciser M68SFDC1 floppy disk board used has a special modified ROM version. This was probably written for an 8-inch drive, in which the Write protect and Direction signal were inverted.
For the sake of simplicity, I have used free inverter on the board to invert the signals accordingly.
After adjusting the PLL frequency, reads and writes from the card are now error-free. And all without FDC, only clever programming by Motorola software engineers in the early 76?
Originally, the EXORdisk system was a dual drive with two 8 "units. This I have replaced with a double drive of two 5.25 inch units. An Epson and a TEAC, which can be jumpered to 360 rpm. Luckily, 2HD floppy disks are easy to R&W.
I also got a GOTEK floppy emulator running, which I can boot from. Thanks to Roland Huisman, Bitsaver has some interesting floppy disks that convert to HFE format work perfectly. This format makes the Gotek drive most reliable.
Now to my question. The vintage computer forum at http://www.vcfed.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-44638.html mentioned some interesting manuals. Archive.org has some manuals, Bitsaver does not have manuals about the M6800 development system.
If someone already owns scanned manuals to the following list
M6800 Basic Interpreter Reference Manual
M6800 Macro Assembler reference Manual
M68SFDU Exordisk 11/111 Disk `Drive Unit Maintenance Manual
M6800 Exorciser 11 User's Guide
M6800 Exorciser User's Guide
MEX68PP1 PROM Programmer Module Supplement M6800 Exorciser User's Guide
I would welcome any feedback or questions
The famous Brigham Young University 3D graphics program, by Dr. Hank Christensen.
I am looking for the fortran source, it should be 7 files:
Any docs related too.
Thanks for letting me beg.
The past few years I?ve become fairly focused on a particular old 1999/2000 ww2 fps computer game. Of course playing it but I?m also on the development team for the game (EA has given up on it, but we still put out new releases, maps, patches, etc.). As a result of that, I pretty much live on Discord text/audio chat these days. If you send me an email I will eventually see it and may even respond heh. But if you send me anything on Discord I?m going to see it immediately. If any of you are on discord, I am ?Todesengel#9624?. Feel free to add me as a friend and that way you can get me usually immediately. I am not leaving the hobby, nor am I saying not to email me at the usual address. But a lot of you do talk to me semi-frequently and I?m just saying discord will get to me far quicker.
In addition, mostly as an exercise to see how to do it, I set up a ClassicCMP discord server. That Discord server is NOT meant to replace this list, nor should it be taken to signal any less commitment on my part to keeping this list running. They are fundamentally different things; Discord is great for real time text chat back and forth. There are also audio and video channels if people want to use that to talk verbally or via video. To get on that server, here is a semi-permanent invite: https://discord.gg/U8Skw5g Joining the server gets you to all the other folks who may join the classiccmp discord, not just me. Of course, that could be zero ? Like I said, I just did it as an exercise, and discord is how some of my family and friends stay in touch. But it is there if peeps want to use it.
I?d rather not turn this into a long debate of whether discord is good or bad or anything like that. I?m just saying it?s there, and it?s quicker to get ahold of me that way at times.
Does anyone have the "Extended Industry Standard Architecture Revision 3.10"
specification either in printed/book form that they are willing to separate
>from or in some sort of electronic format ala PDF? I am mostly interested in
the sections on the syntax for EISA CFG files. TIA!
I have access to some DEC items for a month or two before a house is
sold. Photographs are linked here:
I can locate and forward any items, if still available, for actual
shipping costs and any nominal packaging material costs.
Hitachi ESDI drives
RX50 drives (many)
TK50 tapes (many)
DEC Professional magazine 1987-1994
DECUS software abstracts
DECUS software catalogues
Controlling Software Projects (DeMARCO)
Programming in C with Let's C (Vine)
Surefire Programming in C (Stewart)
PDP-11 Systems and Options Catalogs 1983-1989
Various databooks, DECdirect, etc
Copies of RT-11 SIG newsletter(s)
issues of digital Canadian Digest, 1980s
DECUS Canada mailings
digital news & review magazines ("The Independent Newspaper & Test Lab
of Open Computing for DEC Sites")
various PDU units (see pic)
various empty chassis/backplanes (see pics)
BA23 shells (2)
various tapes, drives (see pics)
As I said, last call, gone in 1-2 months.