> From: Mattis Lind
> Thanks Noel for sorting this out.
Eh, de nada. But thank you.
>> I wonder if the ucode in the two versions is identical? The uROM chip
>> numbers should give it, (if they are the same on both versions, albeit
>> in different locations on the board), but I have yet to check. Does
>> anyone happen to know?
OK, so the situation here is pretty complicated. To start with / make things
worse, that CPU uses lots of PROMs. Lots and lots and lots and lots of PROMs.
For the data paths board (M7260), both major versions appear to contain the
same PROMs (going by the DEC part numbers), but the chip location (Exx)
numbers are all different.
For the control board (M7261), the C, E ('early' version) and F ('late'
version) etch revisions each contain mostly the same PROMs, but apparently
with slight differences between the sets of PROMs in each (as reflected in
different DEC part numbers). For details see:
to which I have just added all the gory details.
As to getting the contents of all of them dumped in machine-readable form -
>> on the earlier version (prints for that version are in the GT40 prints
It turns out that I have hard-copy prints for the "C" etch revision of the
M7261, which do not yet appear to be online; the GT40 prints have the "E"
I will scan the pages for that revision of the board, and put them up 'soon'.
(I'm not doing the whole print set, it's about 1" thick, and most of them are
for other things anyway, like MM11-L memory, etc.)
Hi all --
I picked this DPS-6 up over the summer and it's just taking up space
(quite a bit of space) in the corner of my basement. This is a custom
16-bit, bitsliced, microcoded CPU from the early 80s with (I believe)
8mb of memory, and ethernet. It would originally have run a version of
GCOS. It's about the size of a large-ish minifridge, but a bit deeper.
It's also quite heavy!
It's a neat machine, but it's very obscure and unfortunately incomplete
(it is missing both mass storage and storage controllers). Otherwise,
it is complete and in good condition (albeit a bit dirty). So you can
see why you'd really want to have it in your collection .
If anyone's up for a project, drop me a line. Local pick up in Seattle, WA.
Mainframes and other stuff
Recycle center in NC is willing to save out "stuff" for people.
No, no one can go in the back and scrounge.
No, he does not want a lot of emails from people.
Yes, he gets big blue and orange and beige 6 foot tall OLD mainframes in all
the time. They squash them at the moment.
Yes, he will package small orders, and will properly palletize larger
Local pick up will be available after the new year.
So, if u can send me a picture with description and some part numbers, along
with what you want to pay, I will consolidate things and make arrangements.
Please don't ask for specific boards from DEC; they don't want to go into
that much detail.
QBUS will mean nothing to him.
Big orange cabinet that says xxxxx is much more likely to get saved.
They are moving to new warehouse 1st of the month, so all this will start
happening after the 1st of the year.
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
sales at elecplus.com
AOL IM elcpls
About six months ago I struck a deal with a place down in California for
four Documation M1000's that I've been able to tell so far they all work but
I really don't have space for more than one. I've been trying to sell them
at a loss for months now over on the Vintage Computer Forums and Nekochan
(if you got here you'll find pictures) but no bites. I swear there were
people out there that were looking. Where did you folks go? Might anyone
here be interested? I absolutely refuse to put them on the curb.
I have a VAX730 with both TU58 drives destroyed (capstan melted, need
I also have a bunch of cassettes, but unfortunately all seem to have
problems with the bend and/or bad spots on the tape.
Possibly I would try to replace the broken bands (if I find a source)
and/or replace the magnetic tape when damaged (I was thinking to try
with audio cassette tape, don' t know if metal oxide high density tape
could be good for it).
Anybody has some information about the coercivity of original DEC TU58 tape?
One problem indeed is the need of reformatting the tape, but: if I can
emulate the TU58 drive using a serial, would it be possible to send
raw commands to the drive using the serial and a PC?
PS-If possible, some good-condition cassette would be very useful to
me too. I'm located in Italy.
Anyone have any idea where one might track down a copy of TI System V
for the S1500 series?
I've had these two TI UNIX systems for awhile now, a TI S1505 and a TI
S1507 (68030 and 68040-based, respectively). They came without hard
drives or OS media and so they've basically been doorstops. I asked
around about OS media back when I got them (in 2013) and at the time I
got no leads; I'm guessing things probably haven't changed, but I
figured I'd ask again just in case...
Seem like nice machines, wish I could do something with 'em...
This has probably been asked before, but does anyone have the software
package that came with the HP-IB/RS232 HP10342 bus pre-processor for the
HP1650 series Logic Analyzer (actually I have a 1670G)? It should have a
config file and an inverse assembler file. I'm interested in the HP-IB
files. Can't find it anywhere.
An interesting 3 hours on PBS last night:
- 'Steve Jobs - One Last Thing': No description necessary.
- 'Long Distance Warrior': McGowan/MCI's David & Goliath battle with AT&T
and disastrous merger with Worldcom.
- 'Digital Man/Digital World': Ken Olsen/DEC's growth and ultimate decline.
(No doubt everyone here except myself had already seen this one ;-)
Interesting comparison of the different styles and personalities of three
men who profoundly influenced the tech world of today and their companies.
Thoroughly enjoyed it.
> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 21:41:53 -0500 (EST)
> From: ethan at 757.org
> Subject: Re: Could someone make this topic go away?
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> Am I the only one left using Pine!?
> I get odd looks when I'm checking email from my cell phone.
No you are not.
I use (al)pine on my OpenVMS system here as well as my main Linux host. I
have mail going back to 2004 here and since 1996 at another public access
Unix host I use. It's great when I'm out of town and can ssh in from my
phone and check the mail. :) Pine does most everything I need without
having to worry about malware, phishing, etc ... the beauty of text.
since the messages in May about the MS Windows 1.0 version for DEC Rainbow,
I did some research to see if a version is effectively available.
It seems that copies of this software are really difficult to find, but
a complete copy
was available on the latrobe ftp DEC Rainbow archive... which
disappeared with all valuable data...
Anybody has a copy of the content before the deletion?
Anyway, I found a file-by-file copy of it, on this site:
For preservation reasons, it would be really better to have an original
Any news about dumping the disks or an ftp archive where they are present?