I also have a neat XT. It's not a Phillips, but a Tandy 1000. It has 768K
RAM, and a 12MHz 286 processor. Only, I still have the problem of not
being able to access the upper memory. Being a Tandy, it's even harder to
find a driver. Another setback is it's HD. It's a 20MB Western digital -
and slow as a turtle. Does anyone, by any chance, have a spare
XT-compatible IDE HD without a stepper motor driving the heads??
> It was a neat machine for an XT. I don't recall if I ever checked to see
> was using that extra memory or if it had any SW with it. My friend will
> delighted to know that he can squeeze out a little extra ram for
> DOS programs.
> ciao larry
I was wondering if anyone out there had an old Mac Portable (the Mac
laptop) that they'd want to sell. I really don't want to pay all that much
for it, and I don't need anything all that fast (I don't know all that much
about Macs), but it needs to run at least System 6.0.5. The main reason
that I'm looking for one, is that my school uses mainly Macs (the only PC's
that they have are a few XT's that you need to turn off the lights to read
the monitors), and I don't have a Mac. Whenever I'm working on a project,
I'm confined to the 40 minutes of classtime to get it done. I'm not
looking for a full-sized Mac, because (1) I don't have the room, and (2), I
sort of need the portability, because It's not very often that I'm at home
before 8:30 or 9:00 PM, and at that time I don't really feel like working
on stuff for school.
All I'm really asking is that it works, and can run System 6.0.5 (that's
what my school uses).
ThAnX in advance,
Oh, well, thinks like that do happen, and there's not much you can do about
it. I use MS-MAIL, and a lot of times, I don't even GET some of the
messages :-( I hate it, but it's all my computer will run. It seems like
every reader has it's problems.
> From: cdrmool(a)interlog.com
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Re: FW: Dos v2.11 apology
> Date: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 5:03 AM
> Sorry for the empty message back a bit. I understand some people were
> annoyed. Let me explain for those who don't use Pine as a mail reader.
> The cancel command ctrl-c and cancel ctrl-x are easy to mix up. Its
> as annoying as when using Telix and wanting to shell out (alt-j) and
> accidentally hang up (alt-h). Yes, you are prompted to make sure you want
> send after ctrl-x but if your not expecting it, simply expecting to
> cancel, hitting the return is done before the prompt is even seen. Also,
> being a reasonably fast typist leads to mistakes of overconfidence in
> has been typed. Remappimg the keyboard would be the obvious answer but
> after once doing so I caused new problems, so I don't bother.
> I promise it will never happen again.
> I can personally guarantee that that isn't the only mailer/reader your
> computer will run. Or I will shit in my hat and wear it backwards for a
> month. (If your school/job/ISP has made a decision not to allow to use
> anything better, it doesn't mean your computer can't do it).
well , it WILL run other readers, but they won't fit. I have a Cyrix P200+
w/80 MB RAM, and I had a 425 MB HD with 100 free MB, until lightning hit.
Now I'm stuck with a 100MB drive with 5MB free. MS-mail came with IE3.2,
which was already on the 100MB drive, along with Win '95. I normally use
Outlook Express, with IE4.0, but they just won't fit on this drive :-(
> Some 70 text lines for a 4 word response, that was already commented on
> in this thread.
> Now don't you think that's a little much !
> Larry (in indignant mode)
Well, I guess it's better than whoever used 0 text lines for a 0 line
response. At least with the 70 lines, you know what they're talking about.
With 0 text lines, and no response, your guess is as good as mine for what
they meant :-)
If anyone has that driver could they send it to me, too? I have a Tandy
1000TL 286 XT w/768K RAM, and no way to access it. Maybe the driver will
work in it, too. Maybe it won't - but it's worth a shot :-)
> From: Russ Blakeman <rhblake(a)bbtel.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: EMS/XMS memory driver needed
> Date: Sunday, August 09, 1998 9:21 PM
> Someone I know has just acquired a motherboard, XT type aftermarket,
> with 768k onboard ram. I'm fairly sure the system is going to need a
> special driver to access the memory over DOS's 640k. Anyone have such an
> animal and can attach it to email or know of a commercial program that
> will handle the job?
> Russ Blakeman
> RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144
> Phone: (502) 756-1749 Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991
> Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com
> Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/
> ICQ UIN #1714857
> AOL Instant Messenger "RHBLAKEMAN"
> * Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers*
Hello Fellow Classic Computer Collecting Nerds.
If you've checked out the Vintage Computer Festival web page then you
know that there will be an exhibition of over 100 computer systems as
part of the event.
Just having the computers without any accompanying literature would
probably leave a lot of attendees wondering what it was they were looking
at. Therefore, I would like to have a short, one-page write-up for each
machine on display giving summary information about the machine. I
figured there is probably no better resource for general and historical
information on old computers than this discussion group.
As you know, 100 computers is a lot. So I am asking for a favor from
anyone interested. I need write-ups done for the machines which will be
on display! Aside from my undying gratitude, anyone who contributes
write-ups will receive a free Vintage Computer Festival 1.0 t-shirt and a
free pass to the show either this year or for whatever year you will be
able to make it out (this WILL be an annual event).
A list of the systems on display will follow. If you would like to do some
write-ups for a particular system or series of systems, please e-mail me
and I will let you know if a write-up is required for that system.
The write-up should ideally include:
The company which created the computer
The founding year of the company
The year the company went out of business
The founder(s) of the company
What the company's main market was (ie. who was their customer?)
The year the computer was developed/released
How many were manufactured (if known)
What computer (if any) preceded this computer
What computer (if any) followed this computer
What operating system(s) could it run?
What language(s) if any were built-in or available for it?
What kinds of peripherals were available for this computer
What were the attributes of this computer
What processor did it use? How many bits was it?
How much memory did it come with standard? How much total memory
could it be expanded to?
What kind of bus architecture did it use (if any) or how could it be
expanded (if at all)? Did it have a carthridge slot?
What other computers was it compatible with (if any)?
What peripherals were specifically available for it (if any)?
Disk drives or other storage devices?
Other stuff like speech synthesizers, graphics tablets, etc.?
What (if any) graphics capabilities did it possess?
What was the resolution (of all graphics modes)?
How many colors were available?
Any special features of the graphics? Any special graphics hardware?
What (if any) sound capabilities did it possess?
How many voices did it support?
Any special features of the sound? Any special sound hardware?
What other significant attributes did it feature?
Again, it would be ideal to have all this information, but it is not
mandatory. I realize that some stuff is just a mystery. Hopefully
having Vintage Computer Festival's will clear up these mysteries by
getting the information flowing about old computers.
If you would like to contribute a write-up, please e-mail me with what
you want to contribute and I will let you know if I need one for that
system or not. Thanks!
(list to follow below)
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass
Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival
See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!
MANUFACTURER PRODUCT MODEL
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Apple Computer Apple /// A3S2
Apple Computer Apple //c A2S4100
Apple Computer Apple IIe A2S2064
Apple Computer Apple IIe A2S2128
Apple Computer Apple ][ A2S0016
Apple Computer Apple ][+ A2S1048
Apple Computer Lisa 2
Apple Computer Macintosh Plus M0001A
Atari Atari 1040ST 1040STF
Atari Atari 1200XL Home Computer 1200XL
Atari Atari 130XE 130XE
Atari Atari 400 Home Computer 400
Atari Atari 520ST 520ST
Atari Atari 600XL Home Computer 600XL
Atari Atari 800 800
Atari Atari 800XL 800XL
Atari Falcon 030
Callan Data Systems Unistar 300
Commodore Amiga A1000
Commodore Amiga A500
Commodore CBM 2001 Series PET 2001-32
Commodore Commodore 64 64
Commodore Commodore 64 Personal Compu 64C
Commodore Commodore 128 128
Commodore Commodore Plus/4 Plus/4
Commodore PET 4016
Commodore PET 4032
Commodore PET 8032
Commodore VIC 20 Computer VIC 20
Computer Power & Light Compal 80 Minicomputer
Corona Data Systems M18P-2
Cromemco Z2 Computer System
Data General Data General One 2514A
Epson Geneva PX-8
Epson Portable Computer HX-20
Exidy Inc. Sorcerer Computer
Fortune Systems Corporation 32:16
Forward Technologies Sun 1 Clone
Heath Hero I
Hewlett-Packard Computer HP3000/37
Hewlett-Packard Computer HP85A
Hewlett-Packard Computer HP86B
Hewlett-Packard Portable HP110
Hewlett-Packard Portable Plus
Hewlett-Packard Integral PC HP9000/207
Hewlett-Packard Workstation HP9000/520
Hewlett-Packard Computer HP9915
IBM 3270 Personal Computer 5271
IBM Personal Computer 5150
IMSAI Manufacturing Corporat IMSAI 8080 Microcomputer Sy
Interact Micro Video
Intertec Data Systems SuperBrain II
Kaypro Corporation Kaypro New 2
Mattel Electronics Aquarius 5931
Morrow Designs MDT 60
Morrow Designs Pivot Portable
Non-Linear Systems, Inc. Kaypro II
North Star Computers Horizon
OSI C4P MF
Osborne Computer Corporation Executive
Osborne Computer Corporation Osborne 1
Osborne Computer Corporation Osborne 3
Osborne Computer Corporation Vixen
PMC Inc. PMC 81
Processor Technology Corp. SOL 20
Quest Electronics Super Elf
Radio Shack TRS-80 Model I
Radio Shack TRS-80 Model III
Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 100
Radio Shack TRS-80 64K Color Computer 2 26-3127B
Radio Shack TRS-80 Color Computer 2 26-3027
Radio Shack TRS-80 Micro Color Computer MC-10
Radio Shack TRS-80 Micro Computer Syste 26-1006-1
Radio Shack TRS-80 PC-1
SWP Microcomputer Products ATR8000
Sanyo MBC-550 MBC-550
Sinclair ZX80 ZX80
Sinclair ZX81 Personal Computer ZX81
Sun Microsystems Workstation 2/50
Tandy TRS-80 Model 2000 26-5103
Tandy Tandy 1000EX 25-1050B
Tandy Tandy 100HX Personal Comput 25-1053A
Texas Instruments 99/4A Computer PHC004A
Texas Instruments Silent 700 745 Portable
Timex Computer Corporation Timex-Sinclair 1000 M 330
Timex Computer Corporation Timex-Sinclair 1500
Toshiba T1000 PA7027U
Vector Graphics Inc. Vector 1
Victor Technologies, Inc. Victor 9000 412
Video Technology Ltd. Laser 50
Visual Computer Inc. Commuter COMMUTER US
At 12:37 AM 6/17/97 +0000, you wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Andy Brobston wrote:
>> Was the Aquarius II compatible with the old Aquarius programs?
>> Can anyone give me a lead on an Aquarius II?
>Never heard of such a beast, and it would have been futile to attempt to
>market an Aquarius II when the first one didn't do so hot. Perhaps you
>are referring to the Radofin Aquarius? If not, I want to know what you
>do, and I want to know it NOW! ;)
"Confident in their system, Radofin's president, Lawrence M. Scott, Jr.,
announced that they would continue to sell Aquarius through a new
distributor, and would release Aquarius II in March of 1984 and Aquarius
III in July. None of this happened. "
> DOes anyone have a computer which uses the EBCDIC character set, rather than
> ASCII (did I get the acronym right? what does it stand for anyway)?
I've never heard of a microcomputer that used EBCDIC, but there are a lot of
things of which I've never heard. It is used in IBM mainframes and minis.
Here at HUD we have a Hitachi mainframe that emulates an IBM, and it uses
EBCDIC internally. We have file transfer utilities that take care of
translating into ASCII as necessary.
What does it stand for? Gee, it's been a long time. Let's see.
According to the "SAS Compantion for the MVS Environment," it stands
for Extended Binary Coded Decimal Interchange Code. That sounds redundant,
but that's IBM for you.
At 13:21 9/26/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Ok, how about a 9511A or 9512 math co-processor chip (Intel 8231A or 8232)?
>The Intel web site has info on the 8231A only....
I called a guy who was a logic designer at Intel during the period and who
has samples of most of the pertinent Intel chips from, say, the 8048 to
current. He has no 8232 and claims never to have seen one or a data sheet
for it. It was so lackadaisically marketed by Intel that he suspects it
was a cross-license from AMD and that someone at Intel objected to the
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