I was wondering if anyone out there had an old Mac Portable (the Mac
laptop) that they'd want to sell. I really don't want to pay all that much
for it, and I don't need anything all that fast (I don't know all that much
about Macs), but it needs to run at least System 6.0.5. The main reason
that I'm looking for one, is that my school uses mainly Macs (the only PC's
that they have are a few XT's that you need to turn off the lights to read
the monitors), and I don't have a Mac. Whenever I'm working on a project,
I'm confined to the 40 minutes of classtime to get it done. I'm not
looking for a full-sized Mac, because (1) I don't have the room, and (2), I
sort of need the portability, because It's not very often that I'm at home
before 8:30 or 9:00 PM, and at that time I don't really feel like working
on stuff for school.
All I'm really asking is that it works, and can run System 6.0.5 (that's
what my school uses).
ThAnX in advance,
At 12:37 AM 6/17/97 +0000, you wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Andy Brobston wrote:
>> Was the Aquarius II compatible with the old Aquarius programs?
>> Can anyone give me a lead on an Aquarius II?
>Never heard of such a beast, and it would have been futile to attempt to
>market an Aquarius II when the first one didn't do so hot. Perhaps you
>are referring to the Radofin Aquarius? If not, I want to know what you
>do, and I want to know it NOW! ;)
"Confident in their system, Radofin's president, Lawrence M. Scott, Jr.,
announced that they would continue to sell Aquarius through a new
distributor, and would release Aquarius II in March of 1984 and Aquarius
III in July. None of this happened. "
> DOes anyone have a computer which uses the EBCDIC character set, rather than
> ASCII (did I get the acronym right? what does it stand for anyway)?
I've never heard of a microcomputer that used EBCDIC, but there are a lot of
things of which I've never heard. It is used in IBM mainframes and minis.
Here at HUD we have a Hitachi mainframe that emulates an IBM, and it uses
EBCDIC internally. We have file transfer utilities that take care of
translating into ASCII as necessary.
What does it stand for? Gee, it's been a long time. Let's see.
According to the "SAS Compantion for the MVS Environment," it stands
for Extended Binary Coded Decimal Interchange Code. That sounds redundant,
but that's IBM for you.
I got a nice system for free today from a nice old couple who run a
thrift shop that they are closing down.
Its a Televideo 1603. What's interesting about this system for one thing
is that it was made by Televideo, whom I thought only made terminals. It
has two 5.25" floppies integrated with a green monochrome monitor on a
swivel armature and a detached keyboard. On the back are two DB-25 serial
ports, a D-type connector RS-422 port, a telephone jack for a mouse (which
I didn't get), and two dipswitch blocks. Inside it has an 8088 and a
6502! I was talking to Doug Coward tonight about it and he suggested that
the 6502 was for the terminal operation, and the 8088 was actually the
main processor. This makes sense, but I was wondering if anyone knew more
When it boots it says on the top line of the screen:
TS-1600/1603/1603H POWER ON DIAGNOSTICS Z2.2
then it says below that:
RAM TEST IN PROGRESS.....
then changes to:
FLOPPY DRIVE TEST IN PROGRESS.....
at which point it turns on the floppy drive for a few seconds, then goes to:
WAITING FOR HARD DISK.....
Inside there is a multi-pin connector which I'd assumed was for a
hard-drive but there was no cable for it. I didn't write down the number
on the WD controller chip. I think perhaps the RS-422 port is where
you'd hook the hard drive to.
Anyway, after it doesn't find a hard drive, it clears the screen and
becomes just a dumb terminal. Doug suggested I try booting an old
version of DOS or CP/M+ on it.
Any information on this would be appreciated.
Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass
At 08:23 PM 7/26/97 -0700, you wrote:
>TRS-80 Model 100 Manuals:
>These are photocopies of the originals but are bound together like real
>manuals. Service Manual, Owner's Manual and 2 little Quick Reference
>Shipping is $2.25 book rate.
If these are still available, I'd love to take them off your hands! (I have
three m100's and only 1 owner's manual; none of the others.) Thanks!
Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
Still cleaning the closets. I'll be posting more stuff like this off and
on for a while as I sort. All this stuff is free of charge! Of course
you pay postage to where you live unless you want to drive to central
TRS-80 Model 100 Manuals:
These are photocopies of the originals but are bound together like real
manuals. Service Manual, Owner's Manual and 2 little Quick Reference
Shipping is $2.25 book rate.
Critic's Guide to Software for Apple and Compatible Computers
Apple II Super Serial Card Manual
Apple II 80-Column Text Card Manual
Extended 80-Column Text Card Supplement
Apple II The DOS Manual
Applesoft II Basic Programming Reference Manual
Shipping is $4.25 book rate
Commodore Geos Lot:
Looks like a set of GEOS 2.0 and 1.2
Manuals for 1.2 and 2.0
Deskpak Plus (six applications for GEOS)
25 Blank 5-1/4 disks
Shipping is $2.75 book rate
If I do buy this System/36, I need to be able to boot it.
A key is needed to boot the computer. The key switch has 3 positions:
Normal, Locked, and Service. The switch has to be in the Service position
to boot. It's currently in the Normal position.
There are 3 wires on the back of the keyswitch. One for each position, I
think. Which ones would I cross to boot?
+------- Wire one. Normal position.
+---------- Wire two. Locked position.
+------- Wire three. Service position.
Books, keyboard and manuals.
> From: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
> To: Manney
> Subject: Re: ATARI XE FS
> Date: Thursday, July 31, 1997 12:33 PM
> On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, PG Manney wrote:
> > I've been offered an Atari XE system (1987, I think). Works, as far as
> > know.
> > $30 + S/H is wanted. Anyone want it?
> What stuff comes with that for $30?
> Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer,
Header just about says it all. I'm trying to get an 11/24 fired up, and
it seems to be somewhat single minded in what device it expects to boot on
Right now, its got an RL02 and RX02 on it and does not appear to be
lookoing at either of them.
So... does anyone have a handy reference to the configuration switches
located on the CPU board which will define the boot (and other) options?
The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw
Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174
It's about time.
From: Bill Whitson
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: I'm back
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 1997 9:22PM
You may not have noticed ;) but I've been too busy to do
anything list-related for the last couple weeks. I'll
catch up on the old messages soon.
1. After a 2 week linux installation the classiccmp server
is on-line (yeah, it was really ugly). Anyway we now have
a couple gigs of storage space available. If you want to
create anything for the web site I can provide space.
The web site is now http://haliotis.bothell.washington.edu/classiccmp/
The ftp site is now
2. I will be taking a week-long vacation in San Luis Obispo, CA in
early september. There is a huge computer scrap-yard in the area that
I will be checking out. If any of you local to the area would like
to join up for that, let me know.