then I head ho some lisa cases later had mc boards shoved in them!?
Ed#
In a message dated 9/28/2016 9:54:55 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
santo.nucifora at gmail.com writes:
I have this one one of my Lisa's as well. It's like a start up menu that
allows you to launch the Finder. That's all I ever do with it. I don't
know what the name is but it may be a part of specific version of MacWorks
Plus.
Sorry, I don't have any more info.
Santo
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Paul McJones <paul at mcjones.org> wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 09:15:42 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: steven stengel <tosteve at yahoo.com>
> > Message-ID: <916931269.6067118.1475054142110 at mail.yahoo.com>
> >
> >
> > What is this unusual Apple Lisa display - some sort of diagnostics?
> >
> > http://oldcomputers.net/temp/lisa.jpg
>
> I suspect it is a Macintosh utility (Disk Copy?) Lisas could run
Macintosh
> software using something called MacWorks.
>
>
Hi,
I had heard many years back that the DOS version of WPS could
read and open DEC AI1 files. I was able to get a copy of WPSDOS and
tried to no avail. Anyone have any luck opening AI1 files on a PC
computer in DOS or Windows to get a file to open with all of the proper
formatting and settings? I can open raw with notepad but much of it
is buried is formatting code, I'd like to be able to properly open up a
file with its formatting in tacked.
Thanks,
Curt
I saw one of these go on Ebay recently and I'm considering sell my
1400XL. Looking for a respectable amount, so if you are interested,
please don't offer low ball offers. Please contact me off list to
discuss, thank you.
http://www.atarimuseum.com/computers/8bits/xl/1400xl/1400.html
Curt
> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 09:15:42 +0000 (UTC)
> From: steven stengel <tosteve at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID: <916931269.6067118.1475054142110 at mail.yahoo.com>
>
>
> What is this unusual Apple Lisa display - some sort of diagnostics?
>
> http://oldcomputers.net/temp/lisa.jpg
I suspect it is a Macintosh utility (Disk Copy?) Lisas could run Macintosh software using something called MacWorks.
> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 09:15:42 +0000 (UTC)
> From: steven stengel <tosteve at yahoo.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Unexpected Apple Lisa display - what is it?
> Message-ID: <916931269.6067118.1475054142110 at mail.yahoo.com>
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> What is this unusual Apple Lisa display - some sort of diagnostics?
>
> http://oldcomputers.net/temp/lisa.jpg
It's the MiniFinder - part of Macintosh System release 2, I believe.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZan7K4UkAUvZak.jpg
So, the KT11-B Paging Option engineering drawings recently made their
appearance online:
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/1120/KT11-B_EngrDrws_Feb72.pdf
After a good bit of study of them, I have prepared a 'Technical Manual' for
the KT11-B, somewhat in the flavour of the old DEC technical manuals:
http://gunkies.org/wiki/KT11-B_Technical_Manual
since the prints, by themselves, are fairly inscrutable: an incredibly large
mass of gates (almost no MSI, other than a couple of Flip Chips included in
the drawings as modules).
The article basically attempts to describe how the thing works internally; it
includes sections which describe the function (i.e. point) and operation of
the circuitry on each page of the prints, and there's also a signal
dictionary which describes what all the major signals mean/do.
It's not quite absolutely complete, but it's 96% there at this point; I am
still working on it. One thing I do intend to add (when I can work it out :-)
is to annotate the table of states with info one what each states _means_.
If anyone is particularly interested in this device, and reads the article, I
would be very grateful for feedback on what's still missing that I could add,
suggestions for better organization, etc, etc.
Noel
As common as this monitor is, I don't see a scanned copy of a manual on any real site.
Anyone know of a copy?
I went ahead and bought a VM-4512 manual from Tucker to scan. At least that will be around..
Sir;
I working on a project to build a PDP-8i for a combined Compute
Science/Electronic Engineering course on design. The purpose of this
course is to teach the basic of computer design, build and Programing a
computer they must build. This course is still a year down the road.
I volunteer to accomplish the building of the prototype system using only
the parts available at the time the orginal computer were built.
The point of the build is, if a 70+ can sit down with the course material,
and design and build a working model of the PDP-8i, the there is no excuse
that each student attending the course, should not be able to accomplish
the same task.
1. I would like to know if you still have your PDP-8i Front Panel still
available?
2. What is the cost for the panel plus shipping to Tucson, Arizona?
3. I understands that you are attempting to re-manufacture the Switch
Rocker Assembly? And possibly the PCB board for mounting the switches?
a. If so, I would like to know status, and an estimated cost for a
complete set?
B. Would these items be compatible to with c&k 7000 u-frame series
switches assembly?
One other question I have is do you have any drawings that give both the
dimensions and profile of the mounting frame? If so are they available?
I want to Thank You for taking the time ahead of time in answering this
E-mail.
Respectfully;
Ray Neal
Hi Ray (and everyone),
I'm also very interested in knowing the mechanical dimensions of the front
panel PCB and positions of the lamps/switches/mounts/etc., but for the
PDP-8/e. Does anyone have front panel PCB dimensions and positions for all
the UI components I could use?
I can make a simple PCB design for each of the main areas (lamps, switch
register, other switch groups) that will arrive at a few smaller PCBs,
saving a ton of cost. I also have experience in LED display and switch
matrix design so we won't need a thousand wires going everywhere when used
with an emulator. For example, one USB cable for the entire front panel.
There exists the amazing PiDP-8 (
http://obsolescence.wixsite.com/obsolescence/pidp-8) that has all of these
items taken care of. But there does /not/ exist one for the PDP-8/e.
I await your wisdom,
--
Anders Nelson
+1 (517) 775-6129
www.erogear.com
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ray Neal <rayneal382 at gmail.com>
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Cc:
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 11:59:24 -0700
Subject: Availability of PDP-8i Front Panel
Sir;
I working on a project to build a PDP-8i for a combined Compute
Science/Electronic Engineering course on design. The purpose of this
course is to teach the basic of computer design, build and Programing a
computer they must build. This course is still a year down the road.
I volunteer to accomplish the building of the prototype system using only
the parts available at the time the orginal computer were built.
The point of the build is, if a 70+ can sit down with the course material,
and design and build a working model of the PDP-8i, the there is no excuse
that each student attending the course, should not be able to accomplish
the same task.
1. I would like to know if you still have your PDP-8i Front Panel still
available?
2. What is the cost for the panel plus shipping to Tucson, Arizona?
3. I understands that you are attempting to re-manufacture the Switch
Rocker Assembly? And possibly the PCB board for mounting the switches?
a. If so, I would like to know status, and an estimated cost for a
complete set?
B. Would these items be compatible to with c&k 7000 u-frame series
switches assembly?
One other question I have is do you have any drawings that give both the
dimensions and profile of the mounting frame? If so are they available?
I want to Thank You for taking the time ahead of time in answering this
E-mail.
Respectfully;
Ray Neal