- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

RIP Steve Jobs

by stephane.tsacas＠gmail.com

http://www.apple.com/stevejobs/ -- Stephane http://kiva.org/team/kathleen

14 years, 9 months

1
0
0 0

How very meta: the classic computing experience

by joachim.thiemann＠gmail.com

Wow! classiccmp is now recreating the USENET experience of the mid-90s! Pass the popcorn! -- Joachim Thiemann :: http://www.tsp.ece.mcgill.ca/~jthiem1

14 years, 9 months

12
16
0 0

New color plastic filament for 3D printing: "TRS-80 Battleship Grey"

by eric＠brouhaha.com

They call the color "silver", but now you can print your own objects to match the early TRS-80 cases: http://www.makerbot.com/blog/2011/10/05/just-in-for-fall-abs-in-brown-tan-e… http://store.makerbot.com/metallic-silver-abs-1kg-spool-1-75mm-filament.html

14 years, 9 months

2
1
0 0

how much current does a G3 iMac pull?

by technobug＠comcast.net

OnWed, 5 Oct 2011 01:46:20 -0400, Joe Giliberti <starbase89 at gmail.com> wrote: > > Does anyone know about how many amps a G3 CRT iMac draws? More specifically, > I am talking about a 600MHz G3 model with Airport. MacTracker indicates that the iMac (Early 2001) and the iMac (Summer 2001) both pull a maximum of 150 watts. These two models were the last two iMac beasts of the G3 ilk and had a 600 MHz processor as an option. MacTracker <http://mactracker.ca/> is a great little application that covers all the Macintosh models to date and includes information on configurations, graphics, software, connections and expansion, and history. -> CRC

14 years, 9 months

2
1
0 0

Dissolving a collection: bits for sale, including books

by joachim.thiemann＠gmail.com

Hello everyone, anticipating a move across the Atlantic in the near future, I decided to start selling a large part of my collection. I'm still adding things on occasion, but I would guess that mostly the books might be of interest to folks here. I've put the list(s) up here: http://sites.google.com/site/oldcomputerbitsforsale/home I would of course prefer is someone local can grab the stuff, but I am willing to mail things. Joe. -- Joachim Thiemann :: http://www.tsp.ece.mcgill.ca/~jthiem1

14 years, 9 months

2
2
0 0

Machine code riddle

by cclist＠sydex.com

I'm working with an old data sample (ca. 1979) to a piece of equipment that I do not have access to. I've identified some bits and pieces of code and am trying to identify the processor. Here's what I know. The processor is big-endian and appears to be byte-addressable. The opcode for CALL appears to be D3 xx xx, where xxxx is the address of the destination. 2C appears to be load immediate instruction and is also 3 bytes long. The code doesn't look tight enough to be a p-code implementation of any sort. Does this ring any bells to anyone? --Chuck

14 years, 9 months

18
48
0 0

TRS-80 Model I Power Brick

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

You can indeed open up the Model I bricks and repair them. A frequent failure mode is a fuse inside the case that blows out. My friend had one blow out, and he cracked it open, drilled a hole for a fuse holder and replaced the fuse. It's a pretty simple power supply to build a replacement for. There's a schematic on the Yahoo! TRS-80 group files section for an Australian 240v version which could be adapted to make a 110v version. The service manual is out there (Tandy and SAMS) which should have schematic as well.

14 years, 9 months

1
0
0 0

Sr. Server Engineer (Vintage Systems) at Living Computer, Museum,

by mtapley＠swri.edu

At 17:47 -0500 10/4/11, Tony wrote: >In the case of Word, I can understnad that alas we've got in a situation >whete propriatry programs are used and where you van't correctly generate >or interpet the docuemtnes without using that progam. Not entirely true. In my case (Mac OS X.4 on a PowerPC laptop), OpenOffice actually does a better job opening new .docx files than MicroSoft's own OpenXML converter and Word X (as in, doesn't crash). That still may not help you out, Tony. I think OpenOffice has reasonably steep platform requirements too, but at least it is open source and does a reasonable job untangling Word's formats. At 17:47 -0500 10/4/11, Alexandre wrote: > (anyone remember eudora? :D) Love it! Using it to write this. I'm somewhat worried about consequently falling into the "asshole" category, but not enough so to change... -- - Mark 210-379-4635 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Asteroids headed toward planets inhabited by beings that don't have technology adequate to stop them: Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.

14 years, 9 months

1
0
0 0

facit n4000 service manual?

by stevensaliterman＠comcast.net

Hi Jay, I am restoring an Altair computer and plan to use paper tapes. I have a Facit N4000 and operating manual. I was wondering if you have the service manual? Steve www.tc.umn.edu/~drsteve

14 years, 9 months

1
0
0 0

Repair Culture

by pontus＠Update.UU.SE

Hi Just read this article from "bunnie". It gives a, to me, appealing vision of a return to what I think is quality: http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=1863 I hope at least some of what he says is true, although it might preclude the singularity, which sounds fun :) regards, Pontus

14 years, 9 months

20
35
0 0

OS/2

by lproven＠gmail.com

Apart from Lawrence, who AIUI is a former user - as he just gave me a pile of OS/2 boxes yesterday :?) - are there any other OS/2 users on the list? Or are there any active OS/2 mailing lists still around? I am wondering if I can get a copy of the subscription-only last couple of fixpacks for Warp 4 anywhere. I believe there were entirely discontinued around 2007, so I really doubt that IBM cares any more! -- Liam Proven ? Info & profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508

14 years, 9 months

13
24
0 0

The Commodore 65

by feldman.r＠comcast.net

>Message: 14 >Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:43:20 +0100 >From: Dave Caroline dave.thearchivist at gmail.com > >On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: >> On 10/03/2011 11:26 AM, Dave Caroline wrote: >>> >>> Last person to give me an instant second chance got an instant report to >>> ebay :) >> >> ?Huh? ?Why? ?It's a pretty common practice when the seller has more than one >> unit to sell. ?I've done it myself. >> >> ? ? ? ? ? -Dave >> >> -- >> Dave McGuire >> Port Charlotte, FL >> > >By its nature of being a qty on a pallet with a picture it was a one >off in my opinion with a shill bid to get as much as he could out of >me. > >I dont play those games, be honest as a seller please. > > Dave Caroline As a seller, I've had auctions where the winning bidder crapped out, so I have made a Second Chance offer to the next highest bidder rather than relist the item. No shilling? or dishonesty was involved. Bob

14 years, 9 months

4
3
0 0

Kenbak one recreation story on Gizmodo

by dzubint＠vcn.bc.ca

http://gizmodo.com/5846177/modder-recreates-first-pc-from-scratch quote: "The Kenbak-1 is 40 years old, runs at 1 MHz, and can't do very much besides blink. But computers had a humble start in this little guy, and modder Mark Wilson replicated the antique with 21st century parts." ----------------- Thomas PDP-11 Dzubin Vancouver, Calgary or Saskatoon

14 years, 9 months

1
0
0 0

IBM Model M keyboard repair tip

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

I think some of us like the INM type M keyboard... If you are brace enough to take the heatstaked 'sandwich' apart and replace the stkes with screws (I post the method for doign that some years back), it's easy for one or two of the 'flaps' to jump out of position when you're putting the bits together again. You then have a couple of keys that don't work and you have to take the whole thing apart again. What I do now is insert a flap then slightly stretch its spring and press it over the rear of the key plunger housing, forcing the rim of the housing between the coils of the spring. It'll stay like that, and the flap will be held in place. Fit all of them, put the rubber sheet, the membrane sheets and the base plate on, and screw it all together. Then unhook the springs by running a screwdriver along, and fit the keycaps. The plastic keyframe can be cafully cut between rows of keys (it sometimes breaks along these lines anyway). You can then use parts of 2 damaged keyframes to make one good keyboard. I am not sure what the offical sixe of head for the casing screws is. It's often quoted as 7/32", which turns out to be a smidgen more than 5.5mm. I've found both my 7/32" and 5.5mm nutdriver fit fine. Somebody was looking for some tpye M casing screws. Did you find them? I spent the afternoon making a good tpye M from bits of 2 broken ones, and thus I have soem bits over :-). I never thown anything away so I've got a box of flaps, screws, etc. I could probably be persuaded to part wit hthe casing screws... -tony

14 years, 9 months

37
171
0 0

Kaypro 4 CP/M disks

by elazzerini＠interfree.it

Hi, I'm not unfamiliar with the various versions of the firmware of your Kaypro 4, but the only person that comes to mind is Dave Dunfield. In time he has collected images of boot disks of many machines. I arrange from a few months of a PC configured to be able to read and write disk images 3.5 " and 5.25", but I live in Italy. Once you've got practice on how to use the software to create boot disks is more 'easy to do that to tell it. If there is no one else to may help you I can try. I'll give you references of Dave Dunfield: At the bottom of this page http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/kaypro/index.htm for manual. Here for images of boot disks: http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/img63549/system.htm Here his contacts: http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/contact.htm Greetings Enrico - Pisa (ITALY)

14 years, 9 months

7
13
0 0

WinNT on multiple platforms (was RE: IBM Model M keyboard repair tip)

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Williams" <nigel.d.williams at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:01 PM Subject: Re: WinNT on multiple platforms (was RE: IBM Model M keyboard repair tip) > > Is anyone operating a working Netware LAN? or still have the software? > > > excuse the previous reply, a mis-click on my part. I think I have a complete set of original disks for Netware 3.12, plus the boxed Intranetware (v4.11 with 250 user liscense). Never got around to setting it up (figured it would be cool on 486 and older machines).

14 years, 9 months

1
0
0 0

ETH Lilith's on Ebay sold...

by jdr_use＠bluewin.ch

Whoever got that set of Lilith;s that where on ebay.de, if you are on this list that is, please ensure that you write-protect the disks. Medos, the Lilith OS, expects a writable disk, but will boot and run from a write-protected one. Otherwise you run the risk that a slight error in diskdrive or controller will ruin your disk pack. Happened to me more than just once... And don't forget to replace those Keytronic foam pads : Medos expects a keystroke before booting up ! And google for "Emulith" in case you want to try out my Lilith emulator first. Jos Dreesen

14 years, 9 months

2
1
0 0

HP-UX 10.20 manuals

by eric＠brouhaha.com

Are the HP-UX 10.20 manuals available online in PDF format somewhere? I can find a lot of 11.x manuals on the HP site, but nothing for 10.20. Failing that, was there a documentation CD or the like? Thanks! Eric

14 years, 9 months

3
2
0 0

MicroPLATO Pascal Course

by spedraja＠ono.com

Just arrived to PLATO World, I've encountered this while lurking: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1983-Control-Data-CDC-PLATO-Pascal-CBE-CAI-Course… Regards SPc.

14 years, 9 months

7
13
0 0

EP/IX Documentation

by spedraja＠ono.com

Hi. I am searching for documentation for the CDC EP/IX Operating System and I'm detecting a deep lack of it. Some place where I could get some initiation manual, training guide or so on ? Regards Sergio

14 years, 9 months

2
5
0 0

at&t 3b1 pc 7300 documentation

by emu＠e-bbes.com

Hi all, anybody likes to have any of those? Have some of the original red books, but probably won't use any of them anytime soon. Pay shipping etc, ... Cheers

14 years, 9 months

2
1
0 0

IBM Channel Cables (Dsub type)

by jws＠jwsss.com

Dsub type, not the normal bus / tag Terminators would be nice to score, but are not listed. one set on epay right now if you need them for your small mainframe. 190574185611 Jim

14 years, 9 months

1
0
0 0

[REWARD] Request for documentation

by l4b.bogdan.barbu＠gmail.com

Hi, For quite a while now, I've been trying to get my hands on an old piece of IBM documentation for my collection before it is lost forever. So long, in fact, that I'm offering a reward of 500 USD to anyone that can find it for me. I've tried using my Google ninja skills, I've tried with IBM, I've tried libraries, and I've tried contacting a couple of patent authors that have used this as reference material. Perhaps you can do a better job than me. IBM Personal System/2 Mouse Technical Reference (S68X-2229-00, 2nd ed., Jun. 1989, IBM Corporation) If you are only able to find it at a library, see if you can borrow and scan it for me; that works just as well for me. Know that I already have the first edition of this document so I am not interested in it. Good luck! Cheers, Bogdan

14 years, 9 months

3
4
0 0

Algol 68C For PDP-10

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

Rob Jarratt writes: > Many moons ago I taught myself Algol 68 using ALGOL 68C on a DECSYSTEM-20. > I would love to find a copy of this to install on SIMH if at all possible. > I have a vague recollection that it may have been on a DECUS tape, so I am > wondering if anyone has any such thing in their archives? A lot of academic-type work related to Algol is frequently remembered or cited in academic literature but many of them were branches that never made it into DEC or DECUS collections. Algol-related DECUS PDP-10 library entries include: SAIL/FAIL, Version: 18, August 1976 10-86 Author: Dan Swinehart, Robert Sproul. et al. Revised by: Les Earnest. Stanford University, Stanford. CA Source Language: FAIL Memory Required: 50K of user core Special Hardware Required: 4-Series or later monitor Keywords: ALGOL; SAIL;FAIL; Programming-Language Abstract: SAIL is a high-level programming language for the PDP-I0computer. ALGOLW, Version: 2, December 1973 10-133 Author: Michael Green Submitted by: W. D. Wagers, Digital Equipment Corp.. Maynard. MARevised by: W. D. Wagers Source Language: META 2 Keywords: ALGOL Abstract: This is the W subset of ALGOL. ALGOLW is a blockstructured language suitable for scientific applications. Its specificationsare written by computer scientists. ALGOLW is easy to use and thenintime package is efficient. DEC-20 Review Note: See 20-35 SYNTAX, Version: 2, December 1973 10-185 Author: Michael Green Submitted by: W. D. Wagers. Digital Equipment C0rp.. Maynard, MA Revised by: Michael Green Source Language: ALGOLW (DECUS No. 10-133) Keywords: Syntax:Utility?Programming; Grammar Abstract: SYNTAX is useful in defining programming languages. Itanalyzes the grammar of a language and determines if it is a simpleprecedence grammar. It lists the productions and symbols of the grammarand any identical right parts and any symbol pairs with multiple relations.It then lists the precedence matrix and produces a binary copy.DEC-20 Review Note: See 20-6]. N0 Documentation Available. Media (Service Charge Code): DECtape (HA). 600' Magtape (MA) ororder 10-LIB-2 META2, Version: 2, December 1973 10-186 Author: Michael Green. Digital Equipment C0rp.. Maynard. MASubmitted by: W. D. Wagers Revised by: Michael Green Source Language: META2 Keywords: META2; Compiler-Writer Abstract: META2 is a compiler writer. It was used to write ALGOLW(DECKS No. 10-133) but is sufficiently general purpose to write otherlanguages for the DECsystem-IO. The compiler is defined by a series ofspecifications input to META2. META2 is written in itself. and is easilymodified. DEC-20 Review Note: See 20-62 GNOSIS: A System for Computer Aided In- 10-211 struction, Version: 2, June 1978 Author: Jacob Palme and Dr. Walter Manet. Research Inst. of NationalDefense. Sweden. and Old Dominion University, Virginia. Source Language: ALGOL Memory Required: 32 + 22P Storage Other Software Required: ALGOL, 6.03 (KL + VM) Keywords: GNOSIS; CAI; instruction; Teaching; Education; Computer; Learning: School;Pedagogy: Pedagogics; ALGOL: SIMULA Abstract: Though compatability has been preserved with the first releaseof GNOSIS. Release 2 represents not merely a software update, but acomplete re-authoring of GNOSIS from beginning to end. GNOSIS provides a CAI authoring language which makes itrelatively easy for any teacher with a basic understanding of ?pro-grammed? textbooks to develop computerized tutorials for his students.Although material already written in such a format can be transformedvirtually as~is by GNOSIS into a form suitable for computer delivery, theteacher would normally be writing his own ?script?. This script. because itsimulates the dialogue one might overhear if that teacher were tutoring astudent in private, can be made to ?come to life" on a computer terminalby the addition of a few simple GNOSIS command words. Thecomputer-driven tutorial is, in reality. a compiled version of the ALGOLprogram GNOSIS writes in response to the script prepared by the teacher.In fact. GNOSIS can be designed in such a way that any of the facilities ofALGOL can be exploited anywhere in the lesson. The fact that GNOSIS has been designed to function as a reachingrather than as a testing system is reflected in program logic at all levels. Inaccord with this design philosophy. GNOSIS tempers negative andpositive feedback according to physchological context, simulates a correctresponse (and the comment which would have accompanied it) when allelse fails, encourages student control through skipping and backsteppingfacilities. and generates teacher reports which are geared to lessonimprovement. Note: The documentation that is on magnetic media is not as up-to-dateas what is available in hardcopy. However. the machine readable versionwill suffice. DEC-20 Review Note: See 20-74 SIMULA for DECsystem-10 KA/Kl/KL and 10-223 DECsystem-20, Version: 4A (310), August 1978 Author: Swedish National Defense Research Institute. SwedenSubmitted by: H. David Todd. Wesleyan University. Middletown. CTRevised by: Lars Enderin. Swedish National Defense Research lnst.. and Wayne M. Brehaut. Acadia University. Wolfville. N.S. Canada BOP 1X0 Operating System: TOPS-l0 V5.00 upwards: TOPS-20 VIB upwardsMemory Required: (for Kl/KL. DEC-20) 25K, (for KA) 32K to use. 64Kto build Keywords: SIMULA: ALGOL; Programming-Language: Util-ity; SAFEIO; SIMDBM Abstract: SIMULA is a general-purpose high-level programming languagecomparable in power to PL/l or ALGOL 68. SIMULA is based onALGOL 60 with the addition of record-oriented dynamic memoryallocation. reference (pointer) structures. sets and queues. test-andcharacter handling. sequential and direct access input-output. quasi-parallel sequencing (coroutines) and process (event) oriented simulationcapabilities. Well adapted to structured programming methodology.SIMULA will often considerably reduce programming time compared to conventional languages like FORTRAN, COBOL or PL./l. SIMULA on the DECsystem-10 contains two major additions to the SIMULAlanguage: a system for separately compiled program modules in SIMULA.FORTRAN or MACRO-10 and a powerful on-line debugging system,SIMDDT. SIMULA compiles at half the speed of the DECsysteni-l0ALGOL compiler. The CPU time when running SIMULA programs isabout the same as for ALGOL. faster for input-output and text stringhandling. slower for stack-oriented memory allocation. This package also contains SAFEIO (V. August l978) which is apackage to enable safe question-and-answer dialogue with a conversationterminal. Also contained is SIMDBM (V.l. January l978) which is a data basehandling system based on the ideas in the CODASYL DBTG proposal,but written entirely in SIMULA for the use by SIMULA programs. Nobuilt-in facilities exist for privacy constraints or for solving multiterminalaccess conflicts. 0 Documentation for SAFEIO and SIMDBM are on magneticmedia. I KA-l0 users. the manuals listed also apply to the KA version ofSIMULA. The only difference is that on the KA-l0 the precision of longarithmetic is 54 bits. compared to 62 bits on the KI-10; consequently. page89 of part ll of the revised handbook. lines 6-8. should read: ?Thefractional part has a range in magnitude of 1/, to (l-2?)-52) with a precisionof approximately 16 decimal digits.? Order 10-223B for Part l of the Language Handbook: Manual (ED), alsoon tape. Order l0~223C for Part ll of the Language Handbook: Manual (ED). also on tape. Order l0-223D for Part [ll of the Language Handbook: Manual (EC). alsoon tape. Order l0?223E for the Implementation Guide: Manual (EA), also on tape.Order l0-2232 for the SIMDBM and SAFIO write-up: Write-Up (AA).also on tape. Restrictions: A TOPS-20 version is contained but is insufficiently tested.users are warned it may not work at all. Only those prepared to attemptcorrection of any errors on their own should use the tape. Note: One copy of l0-223E will be shipped automatically with all magtape requests. DEC-20 Review Note: See 20-78. Ordering Information: Order l0-223 for 2400' Magtape (PA) Documentation an magnetic media. Media (Service Charge Code): See Ordering Information listed above. ororder 10-LIB-5

14 years, 9 months

1
0
0 0

Algol 68C For PDP-10

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

Many moons ago I taught myself Algol 68 using ALGOL 68C on a DECSYSTEM-20. I would love to find a copy of this to install on SIMH if at all possible. I have a vague recollection that it may have been on a DECUS tape, so I am wondering if anyone has any such thing in their archives? Many thanks Rob

14 years, 9 months

6
7
0 0

Apple2gs emulation

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

Does anyone know anyone associated with the xkegs Apple2gs emulator project? The latest version seems nice, but supports only OSS audio, which is a little bit of a pain to deal with on modern Linux systems. There is an SDL fork out there, but it hasn't been updated in nine years. I'd like to figure out how/if the latest xkegs can be patched to do SDL or if there's another Apple2gs emulator worth playing with. Last time I tried MESS for this, I got hopelessly lost. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

14 years, 9 months

3
6
0 0

John Romero to keynote KansasFest 2012

by pr＠kansasfest.org

SEPTEMBER 30, 2011 -- KansasFest 2012, the Apple II convention scheduled for July 17?22 in Kansas City, Missouri, comes just two months after the twentieth anniversary of Wolfenstein 3D, the first-person shooter that, when released for MS-DOS in 1992, defined a genre that is still popular today. Not only did the game, which was later ported to the Apple IIGS, use as its inspiration the Apple II game Castle Wolfenstein; Wolfenstein 3D's creators got their start working at Apple II disk magazine Softdisk. To commemorate that anniversary and heritage, KansasFest 2012's keynote speech will be delivered by none other than Wolfenstein 3D co-creator John Romero. Romero, whose Apple II credits include Dangerous Dave and Dark Castle, has been a pillar of the electronic entertainment industry for nearly as long as the Apple II has existed. Popular Apple II magazine inCider published Romero's first program in 1984, with many more of his titles to appear in both inCider and Nibble. Romero later joined Origin Systems, publisher of the Ultima and Wing Commander games, as a programmer, after which he co-founded Inside Out Software. At both companies, he ported software to and from the Apple II and Commodore 64. With KansasFest 2008 keynote speaker Lane Roathe, Romero also co-founded software company Ideas From the Deep, where he developed the Apple II game Zappa Roidz as well as the InfoDOS operating system for Infocom's Apple II games. In 1989, Romero joined Softdisk, a stint that introduced him to three important people: John Carmack, Tom Hall, and Adrian Carmack. The four co-workers left Softdisk in 1991 to co-found id Software, which a year later revolutionized electronic gaming and demonstrated the potential of the shareware distribution model when they released Wolfenstein 3D, which sold 100,000 units in its first 18 months. Later id Software blockbusters, including DOOM and Quake, further cemented the company as an industry powerhouse. Romero has since been involved with many additional high-profile games, including Deus Ex, Daikatana, and Gauntlet: Seven Sorrows. He most recently co-founded social games company Loot Drop, developer of the popular Facebook game Ravenwood Fair, which currently has nearly five million users. Despite such overwhelming success and a storied r?sum?, Romero has long celebrated his roots as an Apple II programmer. In 1998, he reunited forty Apple II programmersin celebration of the Apple II turning 20 the year before. So prestigious were Romero's invitations that in attendance was Apple II inventor Steve Wozniak, KansasFest 2003's keynote speaker. It was this event that later inspired Jason Scott, keynote speaker at KansasFest 2009, to begin production on a documentary of the 6502 processor, which powers the Apple II. Romero appeared in Scott's text-adventure documentary, Get Lamp, and will support Scott's upcoming 6502 film as well. >From Commander Keen to DOOM and Quake, Romero's games ? 97 to date ? regularly become household names and spawn countless imitators. Romero's reflection on the role of the Apple II in both his and the industry's successes will captivate KansasFest 2012 attendees. KansasFest is an annual convention offering Apple II users and retrocomputing enthusiasts the opportunity to engage in beginner and technical sessions, programming contests, exhibition halls, and camaraderie. KansasFest was originally hosted by Resource Central and has been brought to you by the KFest Committee since 1995. Any and all Apple II users, fans, and friends are invited to attend this year's event. Registration details will be announced on the KansasFest Web site in early 2012. For photos, videos, and presentations from past KansasFests, please visit the event's official Web site at http://www.kansasfest.org/ CONTACT: KansasFest 2012 http://www.kansasfest.org/ http://twitter.com/kansasfest/

14 years, 9 months

1
0
0 0

Migration from VAX 3100 to SIMH questions and looking for ideas

by trash3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

Hi, Our 3100 is dying. Thinking of running SIMH. Big stumbling block is how to move the OS and files. I've used Kermit when I've done this for RT11, but that seems like torture for 8 Gb on two disks. Can't I just stick in a SCSI controller and use something like ODS2 to read the SCSI drive and put them into the new container? Thinking of using (probably) XP or Windows7. Am I missing something here? And, if I read it correctly, the only device that talks to the outside world is the ethernet connection in SIMH-vax. Well, that will take care of pretty much everything, I guesss, since we only have printers and terminals, and I can switch over to PCs with VT100 software. Anybody been through this already and have some pointers? thanks in advance Joe Heck

14 years, 9 months

7
11
0 0

Copying in a real TU-58 one virtual TU-58 tape

by will_kranz＠softhome.net

I did a fair amount of research and coding for TU58 emulation over the years, most of that experience and links to utilities for MSDOS and Linux are available at http://www.willsworks.net/pdp11/tu58-emu.htm

14 years, 9 months

8
9
0 0

AW: Algol 68C For PDP-10

by gerhard.kreuzer＠liftoff.at

Hi Rob, I am also interested, if you find something, please send me a note, thanks. With best regards Gerhard -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Im Auftrag von cctalk-request at classiccmp.org Gesendet: Freitag, 30. September 2011 10:44 An: cctalk at classiccmp.org Betreff: cctalk Digest, Vol 97, Issue 60 Send cctalk mailing list submissions to cctalk at classiccmp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cctalk-request at classiccmp.org You can reach the person managing the list at cctalk-owner at classiccmp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of cctalk digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Firmware library was Kaypro 4 CP/M disks (Alexandre Souza - Listas) 2. Re: Copying in a real TU-58 one virtual TU-58 tape (Alexandre Souza - Listas) 3. Re: Firmware library was Kaypro 4 CP/M disks (Tony Duell) 4. Re: Kanbak-uino Arduino-based KENBAK-1 Recreation (Dave McGuire) 5. Re: Migration from VAX 3100 to SIMH questions and looking for ideas (emanuel stiebler) 6. Re: Apple 2gs goodies (Gene Buckle) 7. Re: Migration from VAX 3100 to SIMH questions and looking for ideas (Gene Buckle) 8. Re: Kanbak-uino Arduino-based KENBAK-1 Recreation (Chuck Guzis) 9. Re: Copying in a real TU-58 one virtual TU-58 tape (Dave McGuire) 10. Re: Machine code riddle (Fairchild Series 70 system) (Chuck Guzis) 11. Re: Copying in a real TU-58 one virtual TU-58 tape (Chuck Guzis) 12. Re: Migration from VAX 3100 to SIMH questions and looking for ideas (Dave McGuire) 13. Re: Free for the cost of shiping : Altos CPM and MiocroSoft COBOL 8"disc's (steve shumaker) 14. Re: Firmware library was Kaypro 4 CP/M disks (Chuck Guzis) 15. Re: Machine code riddle (Fairchild Series 70 system) (Chuck Guzis) 16. HP-UX 10.20 manuals (Eric Smith) 17. Re: Migration from VAX 3100 to SIMH questions and looking for ideas (joe heck) 18. Re: Copying in a real TU-58 one virtual TU-58 tape (Chris Elmquist) 19. Re: Migration from VAX 3100 to SIMH questions and looking for ideas (Brian Wheeler) 20. Re: Migration from VAX 3100 to SIMH questions and looking for ideas (Dave McGuire) 21. Re: Free for the cost of shiping : Altos CPM and MiocroSoft COBOL 8"disc's (Josh Dersch) 22. Re: Free for the cost of shiping : Altos CPM and MiocroSoft COBOL 8"disc's (steve shumaker) 23. Altos CPM and MPM disks (Jerry Wright) 24. Re: Free for the cost of shiping : Altos CPM and MiocroSoft COBOL 8"disc's (SPC) 25. Re: Migration from VAX 3100 to SIMH questions and looking for ideas (Huw Davies) 26. Algol 68C For PDP-10 (Rob Jarratt) 27. Re: Kanbak-uino Arduino-based KENBAK-1 Recreation (Christian Corti) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:34:00 -0300 From: "Alexandre Souza - Listas" <pu1bzz.listas at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Firmware library was Kaypro 4 CP/M disks Message-ID: <F6EEB8A1C3634D4FBBB603FBE944D92C at portajara> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original > My intent in the next couple of weeks is to blog it on Erik's VC > site. But as Dave says, combinatorial logic is pretty easy. Digging > inside of a GAL can be very challenging indeed if the security fuses > are blown (and on most commercial gear, they are). Chuck, please keep me informed about that ;) ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:35:58 -0300 From: "Alexandre Souza - Listas" <pu1bzz.listas at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Copying in a real TU-58 one virtual TU-58 tape Message-ID: <549B138148454E85BDDD51179A233191 at portajara> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response > I believe there's an optical shaft encoder on the spindle motor of the > TU58. I'd check to see that the disk (which is paper-thin sheet metal) > and the opto interruptor aren't clogged up with dust bunnies, then test > the opto interruptor itself. What is the difference from a TU58 to a normal DC-600 drive? Can't be used a normal DC-600 (e.g.: for PC) in place of a TU-58? I don't have anything DEC, just out of curiosity :) ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:31:14 +0100 (BST) From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Firmware library was Kaypro 4 CP/M disks Message-ID: <m1R9NGL-000J4TC at p850ug1> Content-Type: text/plain > A worthwhile project might be a cheap "universal PROM/PAL" reader. I built one years ago, initially for the CoCo, I later used in on an MS-DOS machine. It consists of 16 output lines (notionally address, but could be used for enables/clocks where nexcessoar), 8 input lines (used to read in the data), and +/-5V, +/-12V power lines. The CoCO version used TTL latches and buffers, the PC version used an 8255 PCB from Maplin. A manual toggle swithc tri-states all ouytput lines and turns off the PSU rails so you can safely insert/remove ICs. These signals all go to one row of pins of a 64 pin DIN 41612 socket. The other row of pins is wired ot the 32 pins of a ZIF socket. I then have little boards with a DIN41612 plug wired appropriately to conenct the inputs, outputs, and power lines ot the right pins of the socket. I suspect that for me, soldeirng up wone of those boards takes less time than modifying a configuration file, so it's actually easier for me to do it in hardware than to have thing that's configured in software. -tony ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:46:20 -0400 From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Kanbak-uino Arduino-based KENBAK-1 Recreation Message-ID: <4E84D91C.5080800 at neurotica.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 09/29/2011 04:17 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Dave McGuire<mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: >> I just landed a big consulting job (one of the reasons I'm in the process >> of moving from FL to PA, there's actual WORK here!) > > Hope to see you at the Pittsburgh Mini Maker Faire next month. Hey, you'll be there?! Yes, I'm thinking Dan Roganti (from whom I now live right up the road) and I, as well as my fiancee' Autumn, will almost definitely be in attendance. We'll have to catch up on that privately before the event so we can find each other. And since you'll be in town, you're welcome to come up to see my new place. It's very much a work in progress, but I have a 4700-square-foot room here filled to the gills with awesome hardware. Most of my old iron is here now, though not quite all. My new place is in New Kensington, about 18mi NE of Pittsburgh proper, right up Route 28. >> that will have me doing a lot of AVR work. I'm looking forward to that. > > Cool. I mess with Arduino for fun and as an instructor for a couple of > groups in Columbus. Neat! >> That was why I was dicking >> with the Arduino board this morning (with bare metal, no Arduino platform), >> to test my freshly-built cross-compilation and programming toolchain. > > Yep. Been doing that for a couple of years - works great. I use a > USBtinyISP to stuff the code down the pipe, though there are lots of > inexpensive or free options. I'm currently borrowing Dan's AVRISP mkII, but I have a Chinese clone of that module on the way to me now. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:52:36 -0600 From: emanuel stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Migration from VAX 3100 to SIMH questions and looking for ideas Message-ID: <4E84DA94.4010001 at e-bbes.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 2011-09-29 07:38, joe heck wrote: > Hi, > > Our 3100 is dying. Thinking of running SIMH. Which model, and what is dying? It probably is an easy fix, 3100's are cheap, even on ebay. cheers ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 13:58:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Apple 2gs goodies Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1109291358070.32584 at grumble.deltasoft.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Thu, 29 Sep 2011, David Griffith wrote: > > Has anyone here bought Apple 2gs stuff from 16sector.com? Playing with an > emulator got me thinking about pulling out the actual hardware and hopping it > up to what I craved the first time round. They have an 8M memory expander > and an IDE interface, among other things. Someone else, a2retrosystems.com, > has ethernet interfaces now and then. The FocusIDE card my BBS is running from came from him - as well as my SSC and No Slot Clock. Tony is a stand up guy. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:00:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Migration from VAX 3100 to SIMH questions and looking for ideas Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1109291359580.32584 at grumble.deltasoft.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Thu, 29 Sep 2011, Dave McGuire wrote: > > Ok, did anyone else spot the little typo just before Brian's mailer's reply > quote? ;) *snicker* > > -Dave > > On 09/29/2011 02:06 PM, Brian Wheeler wrote: >> b duaOn Thu, 2011-09-29 at 17:47 +0100, Rob Jarratt wrote: >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk- So many windows, so little time. :) (hears Dave yell "FOCUS!" in the background) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:01:49 -0700 From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Kanbak-uino Arduino-based KENBAK-1 Recreation Message-ID: <4E847A4D.24782.176FD9E at cclist.sydex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Sep 2011 at 16:09, Dave McGuire wrote: > I just landed a big consulting job (one of the reasons I'm in the > process of moving from FL to PA, there's actual WORK here!) that will > have me doing a lot of AVR work. I'm looking forward to that. That > was why I was dicking with the Arduino board this morning (with bare > metal, no Arduino platform), to test my freshly-built > cross-compilation and programming toolchain. If you program in assembly, you'll learn to hate the AVR assembler. (Yeah, I know there's one in GCC as well, but it's not the same thing, as a *real* macro assembler). Must have been an assignment for an intern. There are better alternatives, if you're willing to work a bit to keep things updated to the chip you're working on. --Chuck ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:01:49 -0400 From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Copying in a real TU-58 one virtual TU-58 tape Message-ID: <4E84DCBD.7040005 at neurotica.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 09/29/2011 04:35 PM, Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote: >> I believe there's an optical shaft encoder on the spindle motor of the >> TU58. I'd check to see that the disk (which is paper-thin sheet metal) >> and the opto interruptor aren't clogged up with dust bunnies, then >> test the opto interruptor itself. > > What is the difference from a TU58 to a normal DC-600 drive? Can't be > used a normal DC-600 (e.g.: for PC) in place of a TU-58? > > I don't have anything DEC, just out of curiosity :) It's a completely different form-factor of tape, for one thing. ;) The TU58 is a DC100-style cartridge. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:05:31 -0700 From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Machine code riddle (Fairchild Series 70 system) Message-ID: <4E847B2B.13899.17A61E7 at cclist.sydex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Sep 2011 at 21:21, Tony Duell wrote: > Or a mu-metal box? I've seen permalloy foil, so you could wrap the floppies in that... --Chuck ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:17:18 -0700 From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Copying in a real TU-58 one virtual TU-58 tape Message-ID: <4E847DEE.20017.1852BAF at cclist.sydex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Sep 2011 at 17:35, Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote: > What is the difference from a TU58 to a normal DC-600 drive? Can't > be used a normal DC-600 (e.g.: for PC) in place of a TU-58? > > I don't have anything DEC, just out of curiosity :) Other than physical aspects of the tape cartridge and drive, the TU58 uses a factory-preformatted tape with special marks recorded for BOT and EOT. A DC600 QIC02 style tape uses holes punched into the tape and an optical sensor to determine BOT/EOT. The TU58 is actually closer to a 3M Iotamat drive. Given the cantankerousness of the medium, however, TU58 emulators have been developed. --Chuck ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:24:33 -0400 From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Migration from VAX 3100 to SIMH questions and looking for ideas Message-ID: <4E84E211.6000902 at neurotica.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 09/29/2011 05:00 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Thu, 29 Sep 2011, Dave McGuire wrote: > >> >> Ok, did anyone else spot the little typo just before Brian's mailer's >> reply quote? ;) *snicker* >> >> -Dave >> >> On 09/29/2011 02:06 PM, Brian Wheeler wrote: >>> b duaOn Thu, 2011-09-29 at 17:47 +0100, Rob Jarratt wrote: >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk- > > So many windows, so little time. :) (hears Dave yell "FOCUS!" in the > background) ROFL!! -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:28:08 -0700 From: steve shumaker <shumaker at att.net> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Free for the cost of shiping : Altos CPM and MiocroSoft COBOL 8"disc's Message-ID: <4E84E2E8.9040505 at att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 9/29/2011 1:24 PM, Rik Bos wrote: > Spoken for.. > > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] >> Namens Rik Bos >> Verzonden: donderdag 29 september 2011 22:00 >> Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts >> Onderwerp: Free for the cost of shiping : Altos CPM and MiocroSoft COBOL >> 8"disc's >> >> Free for the cost of shipping : Altos CPM and Microsoft COBOL 8"disc's >> >> About 10 discs I don't have the hardware anymore, so before I format the >> discs... >> >> >> >> -Rik >> > > oh bummer. would the proud new owner be willing to make copies of the cpm disks..... please.... steve ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:29:08 -0700 From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Firmware library was Kaypro 4 CP/M disks Message-ID: <4E8480B4.30161.18FFE9E at cclist.sydex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Sep 2011 at 21:31, Tony Duell wrote: > > A worthwhile project might be a cheap "universal PROM/PAL" reader. > > I built one years ago, initially for the CoCo, I later used in on an > MS-DOS machine. > > It consists of 16 output lines (notionally address, but could be used > for enables/clocks where nexcessoar), 8 input lines (used to read in > the data), and +/-5V, +/-12V power lines. The CoCO version used TTL > latches and buffers, the PC version used an 8255 PCB from Maplin. A > manual toggle swithc tri-states all ouytput lines and turns off the > PSU rails so you can safely insert/remove ICs. These signals all go to > one row of pins of a 64 pin DIN 41612 socket. The other row of pins is > wired ot the 32 pins of a ZIF socket. Mine is currently populated for 8 input, 12 output, but has positions for an extra 151 and one more 393. That expands it to 16 outputs, and 20 inputs (from the DUT's perspective) (the low order 4 bits of the first 393 drives the select on the 151s). I've got headers on all of the outputs and inputs as well as on the DUT socket, so it's just a matter of jumpering things how you'd like. With a wirewrap gun, it's literally just a couple of minutes to change the configuration. But a uC has a huge advantage when creating a general solution, as you don't need any sort of pin drivers--just change the programming for the uC pins and you're all set. I was lazy with mine--I knew that counters would work and required no device programming, leaving the smarts on the PC side. --Chuck ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:32:20 -0700 From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Machine code riddle (Fairchild Series 70 system) Message-ID: <4E848174.19280.192ECFC at cclist.sydex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Sep 2011 at 21:25, Tony Duell wrote: > Is it? I thought a dipole field fell off as 1/R^3. Anyway, it falls > off pretty fast. It's more complicated than that. At *near* distances, it's inverse- square; at *far* distances, it's inverse-cube. At intermediate distances, it's somewhere betweeen the two and a nightmare to calculate. --Chuck ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:23:53 -0700 From: Eric Smith <eric at brouhaha.com> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: HP-UX 10.20 manuals Message-ID: <4E850C19.7010705 at brouhaha.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Are the HP-UX 10.20 manuals available online in PDF format somewhere? I can find a lot of 11.x manuals on the HP site, but nothing for 10.20. Failing that, was there a documentation CD or the like? Thanks! Eric ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:36:18 -0400 From: joe heck <trash3 at splab.cas.neu.edu> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Migration from VAX 3100 to SIMH questions and looking for ideas Message-ID: <4E850F02.9090200 at splab.cas.neu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Thanks for all the ideas, folks. Yes, I've looked into Charon and the cost would probably bankrupt the company. At least that's how I read their price list. Yes, it's the right way to go, but... I suppose the company could take the COBOL code and move it to a real PC environment as well...get away from VMS entirely. Since at least one person suggested staying with the real hardware, perhaps that is the best bet. I'm not even happy about upgrading the OS, since I really don't want to get the license manager into a fit. The hardware seems pretty stable, except for the disks. I had asked about disks a while back and got many excellent responses. However, I went with one which was to buy the new "cheetah"? drive, very big, and unfortunately, 5.5-2 won't support it, along with the firmware. My bad, I forget to say the system is running antiquated software. So, it's back to the 4GB drives. Went with a used drive from a reputable vender, and things are stable for now. You've given me many good options to think about, so now I have to make a recommendation to my friend/client. Just when I was about to retire and get out of the business... Thanks again, Joe Heck ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 19:38:18 -0500 From: Chris Elmquist <chrise at pobox.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org> Cc: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Copying in a real TU-58 one virtual TU-58 tape Message-ID: <20110930003818.GU30971 at n0jcf.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Thursday (09/29/2011 at 04:29PM -0400), Ethan Dicks wrote: > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: > > ?I believe there's an optical shaft encoder on the spindle motor of the > > TU58. ?I'd check to see that the disk (which is paper-thin sheet metal) and > > the opto interruptor aren't clogged up with dust bunnies, then test the opto > > interruptor itself. > > I can't remember the symptoms when it doesn't work, but it's a good > thing to check. If the device was powered on for thousands and > thousands of hours, the IR diode could be a bit dim - I've seen that > with 15+ year old optical interrupters before (and successfully > repaired the gear with a new interrupter). Ya... good idea except, I can measure nice clean tach pulses on the board after the op-amp stage that the photo transistor in the interrupter drives. So, I think I'm getting good tach signal from the interrupter. I've completely cleaned the unit so the dust bunnies have been long since exorcised. -- Chris Elmquist ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:08:54 -0400 From: Brian Wheeler <bdwheele at indiana.edu> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Migration from VAX 3100 to SIMH questions and looking for ideas Message-ID: <1317344936.5244.2.camel at bender> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 14:00 -0700, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Thu, 29 Sep 2011, Dave McGuire wrote: > > > > > Ok, did anyone else spot the little typo just before Brian's mailer's reply > > quote? ;) *snicker* > > > > -Dave > > > > On 09/29/2011 02:06 PM, Brian Wheeler wrote: > >> b duaOn Thu, 2011-09-29 at 17:47 +0100, Rob Jarratt wrote: > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk- > > So many windows, so little time. :) (hears Dave yell "FOCUS!" in the > background) > > g. > well, to be fair, focus was the problem: I was in the wrong window when I was typing into simh :) ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 22:44:44 -0400 From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Migration from VAX 3100 to SIMH questions and looking for ideas Message-ID: <4E852D1C.6060404 at neurotica.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 09/29/2011 09:08 PM, Brian Wheeler wrote: >>> Ok, did anyone else spot the little typo just before Brian's mailer's reply >>> quote? ;) *snicker* >>> >>> -Dave >>> >>> On 09/29/2011 02:06 PM, Brian Wheeler wrote: >>>> b duaOn Thu, 2011-09-29 at 17:47 +0100, Rob Jarratt wrote: >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk- >> >> So many windows, so little time. :) (hears Dave yell "FOCUS!" in the >> background) >> >> g. >> > > well, to be fair, focus was the problem: I was in the wrong window when > I was typing into simh :) Yes, I figured as much. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 19:52:40 -0700 From: Josh Dersch <derschjo at mail.msu.edu> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Free for the cost of shiping : Altos CPM and MiocroSoft COBOL 8"disc's Message-ID: <4E852EF8.4020001 at mail.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 9/29/2011 2:28 PM, steve shumaker wrote: > On 9/29/2011 1:24 PM, Rik Bos wrote: >> Spoken for.. >> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>> Van: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org >>> [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] >>> Namens Rik Bos >>> Verzonden: donderdag 29 september 2011 22:00 >>> Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts >>> Onderwerp: Free for the cost of shiping : Altos CPM and MiocroSoft >>> COBOL >>> 8"disc's >>> >>> Free for the cost of shipping : Altos CPM and Microsoft COBOL 8"disc's >>> >>> About 10 discs I don't have the hardware anymore, so before I format >>> the >>> discs... >>> >>> >>> >>> -Rik >> > > > oh bummer. would the proud new owner be willing to make copies of > the cpm disks..... please.... I snagged these, and I have a rig set up to archive 8" floppies -- I'll definitely be making images of them. I'll let you know! Josh > > > steve > ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:31:15 -0700 From: steve shumaker <shumaker at att.net> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Free for the cost of shiping : Altos CPM and MiocroSoft COBOL 8"disc's Message-ID: <4E853803.5040809 at att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 9/29/2011 7:52 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > On 9/29/2011 2:28 PM, steve shumaker wrote: >> On 9/29/2011 1:24 PM, Rik Bos wrote: >>> Spoken for.. >>> >>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>>> Van: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org >>>> [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] >>>> Namens Rik Bos >>>> Verzonden: donderdag 29 september 2011 22:00 >>>> Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts >>>> Onderwerp: Free for the cost of shiping : Altos CPM and MiocroSoft >>>> COBOL >>>> 8"disc's >>>> >>>> Free for the cost of shipping : Altos CPM and Microsoft COBOL 8"disc's >>>> >>>> About 10 discs I don't have the hardware anymore, so before I >>>> format the >>>> discs... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Rik >>> >> >> >> oh bummer. would the proud new owner be willing to make copies of >> the cpm disks..... please.... > > I snagged these, and I have a rig set up to archive 8" floppies -- > I'll definitely be making images of them. I'll let you know! > > Josh > >> >> >> steve >> > Thanks! I rescued an Altos 8100 a couple months ago that appears in pristine shape. Disks would be awesome! Steve ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 22:23:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerry Wright <g-wright at att.net> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Altos CPM and MPM disks Message-ID: <1317360232.86746.YahooMailRC at web83815.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a large collection of cpmmpm disks for the Altos Z-80 series. which I have shared with other list members not sure why they have not been made available by now on line. Its been years Since I gave these out . I Had given Don Maslin my complete collection but realized these ended with his death . - Jerry ________________________________ From: steveshumaker <shumaker at att.net> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Sent: Thu, September 29, 2011 8:31:15 PM Subject: Re: Free for the cost of shiping : Altos CPM and MiocroSoft COBOL 8"disc's On 9/29/2011 7:52 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > On 9/29/2011 2:28 PM, steveshumaker wrote: >> On 9/29/2011 1:24 PM, Rik Bos wrote: >>> Spoken for.. >>> >>>> -----Oorspronkelijkbericht----- >>>> Van: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] >>>> Namens Rik Bos >>>> Verzonden: donderdag 29 september 2011 22:00 >>>> Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts >>>> Onderwerp: Free for the cost of shiping : Altos CPM and MiocroSoft COBOL >>>> 8"disc's >>>> >>>> Free for the cost of shipping : Altos CPM and Microsoft COBOL 8"disc's >>>> >>>> About 10 discs I don't have the hardware anymore, so before I format the >>>> discs... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Rik >>> >> >> >> oh bummer. would the proud new owner be willing to make copies of the cpm >>disks..... please.... > > I snagged these, and I have a rig set up to archive 8" floppies -- I'll >definitely be making images of them. I'll let you know! > > Josh > >> >> >> steve >> > Thanks! I rescued an Altos 8100 a couple months ago that appears in pristine shape. Disks would be awesome! Steve ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 00:31:50 +0200 From: SPC <spedraja at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Free for the cost of shiping : Altos CPM and MiocroSoft COBOL 8"disc's Message-ID: <CACytpF-gWcQDk2nn6R708N=2SZsYJ04P4p5_aSFWntc=mhHZxA at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I got one altos with 8 inch drives which uses cp/m. I,m interested. El 29/09/2011 21:59, "Rik Bos" <hp-fix at xs4all.nl> escribi?: > > Free for the c> Free for the cost of shipping : Altos CPM and Microsoft COBOL 8"disc's > > About 10 discs I don't have the hardware anymore, so before I format the > discs... > > > > -Rik > ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 11:59:22 +1000 From: Huw Davies <huw.davies at mail.vsm.com.au> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Migration from VAX 3100 to SIMH questions and looking for ideas Message-ID: <D5784CEB-3BBA-44F7-B004-F8704FF96059 at kerberos.davies.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 30/09/2011, at 12:05 AM, Shoppa, Tim wrote: > This is trivially easy with a Unix type operating system. Put the SCSI drive on, "dd if=/dev/sd0 of=diskimage.dsk". And if you want to stick with OpenVMS, BACKUP/PHYSICAL is your friend. Or use LDDRIVER of course. Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies at kerberos.davies.net.au Melbourne | "If soccer was meant to be played in the Australia | air, the sky would be painted green" ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:31:59 +0100 From: "Rob Jarratt" <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Algol 68C For PDP-10 Message-ID: <004c01cc7f3a$a9e48be0$fdada3a0$(a)ntlworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Many moons ago I taught myself Algol 68 using ALGOL 68C on a DECSYSTEM-20. I would love to find a copy of this to install on SIMH if at all possible. I have a vague recollection that it may have been on a DECUS tape, so I am wondering if anyone has any such thing in their archives? Many thanks Rob ------------------------------ Message: 27 Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:43:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Corti <cc at informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Kanbak-uino Arduino-based KENBAK-1 Recreation Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1109301040130.25704 at linuxserv.home> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Thu, 29 Sep 2011, Adrian Stoness wrote: > wow kool > > adrino funny been seen that stuff allot latly speacialy at my local hacker > space infact never herd of their gear till i joined the hackerspace haha I'd be ashamed if I produced such garbage in my mother tongue... And I don't even know what you wanted to say, I just can't "parse" it. Whatever I try, I constanly get a SYNTAX ERROR ;-) Christian End of cctalk Digest, Vol 97, Issue 60 **************************************

14 years, 9 months

1
0
0 0

Migration from VAX 3100 to SIMH questions and looking for ideas

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

Joe writes: > Can't I just > stick in a SCSI controller and use something like ODS2 to read the SCSI > drive and put them into the new container? Thinking of using (probably) > XP or Windows7. This is trivially easy with a Unix type operating system. Put the SCSI drive on, "dd if=/dev/sd0 of=diskimage.dsk". You don't want any interpretation applied to turn the ODS-2 filesystem already on the disk into a bunch of Windows files. You want the whole disk as a bunch of contiguous blocks, nothing else. Tim.

14 years, 9 months

2
1
0 0

Apple 2gs goodies

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

Has anyone here bought Apple 2gs stuff from 16sector.com? Playing with an emulator got me thinking about pulling out the actual hardware and hopping it up to what I craved the first time round. They have an 8M memory expander and an IDE interface, among other things. Someone else, a2retrosystems.com, has ethernet interfaces now and then. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

14 years, 9 months

2
1
0 0

Ontel 8" floppy disc drives cabinet

by spedraja＠ono.com

Hi. Just received one ONTEL (not Intel) 8" floppy disc drives cabinet from the UK. * Reasonable good external aspect. * The drives appear to be Shugart. * The power supply has good aspect in a first visual inspection. * The fuse in the cabinet rear and the fuse cover are lost. I must check for one valid cover. The most interesting thing is the output interface. Every disc unit plugs in a circuit in the cabinet rear. The circuit have the holes needed to put the usual 50-pin interface. BUT the interface really installed is one similar to parallel or DB25. Sure that I can try to install the 50-pin interface. And I shall do more investigations, but any help in all these aspects would be welcome. Regards Sergio

14 years, 9 months

2
2
0 0

Ontel 8" floppy disc drives cabinet

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

Probably from an Ontel OP-1 system in the late 70's or very early 80's. The OP-1 was somewhere between a configurable terminal and a dedicated word processor depending on firmware and peripherals installed. Peripherals did include 8" floppies in the high end, I saw this being used in car dealerships back in the early 80's as the front end to a central-office PDP-11 system. There are at least a few other manufacturers that used 8" floppies on a DB25 cable. E.g. the RX01 cabinet kit for a WPS-8 system. I would not expect to find any of them using compatible pinouts or even "interface concepts". E.g. the RX01 is a dedicated serial bus with some smarts (or at least a state machine) at the drives. The DSD-440 line used a different dedicated serial bus (26 pin ribbon cable IDC's usually but I think I saw it routed over a DB-25 at least once) and a microprocessor in the drive. I'm guessing your board that sits between 50-pin Shugart and 25-pin connectors, doesn't have much smarts, it probably just drops the many unused signal lines and consolidates many of the grounds.

14 years, 9 months

2
1
0 0

8" floppies

by jws＠jwsss.com

I just got a box of 8" media which included some boxes with Fairchild Camera logos I usually see on high speed camera equipment I collect. There is something called a Fairchild Series 70 with what appear to be floppies labeled for such a system in one box. There were probably more, but they are full of Tarbell media, which I need as well. Any idea what this is? I will try to rig something or find someone with the means to digitize it and donate it to Bitsavers, of course. I'm in the LA area (California) if there is anyone around. I have a DiscFerret from Phil P. if someone has a clean working 8" setup and some time to get it all running. I have 8" drives, but they are in unknown working condition. For what it's worth, it looks like the person with the Tarbell media had the same problems I had and most other did as there are a number of floppies labeled as to where they were written, since Tarbell controller were notorious about reading a lot of media, but writing media only Tarbell could read. I also have a box with a Dysan reference floppy as well if needed in the same lot. Thanks Jim

14 years, 9 months

3
2
0 0

Ferguson BigBoard I & Microcornucopia Magazine

by elazzerini＠interfree.it

Hi at all, this email to remember my website with the hope to can to contact and to maintain alive all possible about and around this (but not only) great old SBC board. For the Bigboard: <http://web.tiscali.it/enrico.lazzerini> http://web.tiscali.it/enrico.lazzerini <http://www.fergusonbigboard.altervista.org/> http://www.fergusonbigboard.altervista.org/ For the Magazine: http://enricolazzerini.interfree.it Regards Enrico - Pisa (ITALY)

14 years, 9 months

1
0
0 0

Multitech MPF-PC

by elazzerini＠interfree.it

Multitech MPF-PC http://elazzerini.interfree.it/MP-PC/index-en.htm What I NEED to make this system alive are boot disks: they are special because they contain the DIOS loader that sits between the hardware and the operating system itself to allow the complete management of the motherboard. Regards Enrico

14 years, 9 months

1
0
0 0

Copying in a real TU-58 one virtual TU-58 tape

by spedraja＠ono.com

Hi. I have one TU-58. Doing a resume: * The components work at 115 volts, even when you can change the PS current to 220-240 volts. * In appeareance the Current flows by the main board of the device (the RED led indicates so) * The wire wrapping is the stablished in factory (TU-58 manuals, Bitsavers) * It has not stablished the 'boot' wire wrap for LSI-11 * I have one DEC console serial cable * I have too a couple of Dectape II cartridges With all these stuff, I should like to connect the TU-58 to the Serial Port of my Laptop and manage the TU-58. The objective is: * To put a virtual image in the Dectape II from the Laptop * To dump the content of one Dectape II in the Laptop The unique option similar to this that I want is one MS-DOS driver in SpareTime Gizmos, but to use the TU58 as one MS-DOS storage unit. But, what I have in mind is similar but different at the same time. I want to manage the TU-58 contents in DEC native format. I know, in addition, of the existence of some TU-58 emulators, and in fact I use them from time to time. And I'm not sure if one of these (TU58EM) has this option available, but sure that someone in the list knows it. I suppose then that some analysis of the STGiz MS-DOS driver plus the diverse emulators of the TU-58 would be sufficient to begin to construct some kind of software for this purpose. But it's almost sure that someone has encountered this problem in the past years and encountered one solution for it. Probably even with only one communications software, a good knowledge of the RSP protocol, an one binary image. In the other hand, I am almost sure too that I need a modification (or better a modified plug) of the Serial Port in the Laptop (9-pin) as the realized in the SLUs of the PDP-11 to allow the correct manage of the TU-58 >from the laptop. I have the documentation of modifications to do in the SLUs of the PDP-11, and in fact I did a couple of modified SLUs some time ago. In the cas of the laptop it would be neccesary to one male-to-female plug. The problem is the correct cabling inside it. I assume that I can do the well-known probe-an-error but sure that exists some contrasted information about the cable. Thanks ! SPc.

14 years, 9 months

6
12
0 0

HP, DEC, Olivetti & Apple stuff

by quapla＠xs4all.nl

This guy has some very nice items for sale (in Germany, near Munich) Including an Decstation 78, VT52 and some nice older Olivetti equipment. http://www.ebay.de/sch/johannesmichaelemanuel/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 -- Dit is een HTML vrije email / This is an HTML free email.

14 years, 9 months

32
66
0 0

cctalk Digest, Vol 97, Issue 56

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

Doc writes: >> Save! They run Linux/m68k, NetBSD, etc, quite nicely - or System 7, of >> course. > You forgot A/UX.... As a "68K Mac" that can run old Mac OS's back to pre-Multifinder as well as newer stuff, the IIci is pretty sweet. But having tried A/UX on it 20 years ago, it seemed like the slowest dog ever. I can't believe A/UX would be considered usable for example on the slower and smaller SE/30. Tim.

14 years, 9 months

2
1
0 0

Motorola appnote AN-859 wanted (MC6829 MMU)

by eric＠brouhaha.com

Does anyone have a copy of Motorola Application Note AN-859 regarding the MC6829 MMU? There used to be a copy at dynapic.com, but it's gone and apparently so is the copy I had saved. There are plenty of copies of National Semiconductor AN-859 and Analog Devices AN-859 online, but those are NOT useful to me. Thanks! Eric

14 years, 9 months

2
1
0 0

Mac IIci's: save or scrap

by hilpert＠cs.ubc.ca

The radio museum here has two Mac IIci's to get rid of, along with an Apple 14" colour monitor and ADB keyboard. Is there any interest in these? If not the whole system, there are a couple of 'special' boards in them: - Pro Tools Audiocard - Sound Accelerator II - Radius Accelerated 24-bit Graphics They are located in the Vancouver area, B.C., Canada. I could extract and ship boards, I don't expect they are worth shipping whole units. .. just thought I'd ask/offer, eWaste otherwise.

14 years, 9 months

7
10
0 0

Western Digital datasheets wanted: WD1017, WD3256, app note for WD10C20

by eric＠brouhaha.com

I'm not having any luck at the usual places. Does anyone have datasheets for these Western Digital parts: WD1017 WD3256 And the application note for: WD10C20 Thanks! Eric

14 years, 9 months

2
2
0 0

Google Circles

by stephane.tsacas＠gmail.com

Hi, It's now possible to share a circle on Google Plus, anyone has a "vintage computer collector" circle to share ? Mine has only 9 people in it. Thanks -- Stephane http://kiva.org/team/kathleen join Kiva.

14 years, 9 months

3
3
0 0

HP Laserjet 4+ and Sun lunchboxes in Paris

by alexandre.laguejacques＠gmail.com

Hi all, A friend of mine has 3 slightly defective Sun lunchboxes (2 IPX/IPC, I think that the NVRAMs are dead, 1 LC without a power supply) and an HP Laserjet 4+ that seems to make accordeons 3 times out of 5. The latter is surely easily repairable. All items are in Paris 15e. Contact me off-list if you're interested. Thanks, Alex

14 years, 9 months

1
0
0 0

looking for some RA60 drives

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Hey folks, I'd like to get my hands on one or more RA60 drives, ideally three or four of them. I can pick them up if they're within reasonable driving distance of western PA. (which, for me, means "can get there and back in a day") Does anyone have any that they'd like to see re-homed? -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL

14 years, 9 months

1
0
0 0

Classic computing, the invesment of the future (aka. Inflation)

by spedraja＠ono.com

'Refurbished:' http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/X-RAY-XRAY-DEC-CPU-LSI-73-M8192-LORAL-WESTON-GAGE… No comment. SPc.

14 years, 9 months

16
25
0 0

OS/2 VM

by jonas＠otter.se

> Message: 18 > Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 09:37:55 -0500 > From: John Foust<jfoust at threedee.com> > To:<cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: OS/2 VM > Message-ID:<201109271438.p8REcL5U088869 at billy.ezwind.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > At 07:55 AM 9/27/2011, madodel wrote: >> >Then in 2004 Microsoft bought Connectix's IP and killed off both the Mac and OS/2 versions. They then supposedly worked on incorporating the VM into newer Windows releases. I don't use Windows so I have no idea how that turned out. > Windows 7 Professional includes "Windows XP Mode" based on Virtual PC. > > - John > I use Virtual PC under Windows for running Windows 98 (to run an old application which won't run under XP) and I have run Windows XP (as a virtual test/development environment for WebSphere). It works very well for those applications. I haven't tried running anything else yet except a homegrown boot loader. AFAIK it works very well. /Jonas

14 years, 9 months

1
0
0 0

update and pics of 11/785 and opps... slot machine

by useddec＠gmail.com

The person who owns the 785 finally got it dug out, and I looked at it about a week ago and got a few pics. Unfortunetly, he pulled the main boards and sold them for scrap. I have a spare 780 board set and backplane, and most of the 785 board set. The pics show better detail than I could see because of poor lighting. I couldn't find the flashlight I keep in the car. The expansion cab has the BA11-KE and boards are in it. The 11/03 and RX02 are there. I will be happy to dig into it in more detail if anyone is interested. No tape or disk were seen while there, but he doesn't remember getting rid of them. It might end up getting totally parted out. I just opened a flickr acct, and accidently left on pics of a slot machine. An aquantance passed away and I'm trying to help his daughter to find a home for it. Any gamers? All located in Chanpaign, IL area. Thanks, Paul http://www.flickr.com/photos/useddec/

14 years, 9 months

7
11
0 0

Kaypro 4 CP/M disks

by percy.walls＠gmail.com

I was given a Kaypro 4 that had belonged to my father-in-law. he died about 6 years ago, and the machine was stored in a unventilated garage in NM, and any disks where either lost or are unusable. I am a retired disabled vet, and only have a newer laptop and with no 5 1/4 drive to be able to recreate the disks from the archives. I would be very great-full if someone could supply me with a set of CP/M OS disks, a basic interpreter and compiler, and maybe some games. I'm more than willing to pay a modest amount for materials and time. Also can anyone know where I can purchase floppy disks for the Kaypro Thanks in advance Percy Walls ETC USN Ret.

14 years, 9 months

4
3
0 0

2026

2025

2024

2023

2022

2021

2020

2019

2018

2017

2016

2015

2014

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

2008

2007

2006

2005

2004

2003

2002

2001

2000

1999

1998

1997

test-drb