26 Sep
2011
26 Sep
'11
4:08 a.m.
'Refurbished:'
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/X-RAY-XRAY-DEC-CPU-LSI-73-M8192-LORAL-WESTON-GAGE…
No comment.
SPc.
26 Sep
26 Sep
6:07 a.m.
The "new old stock" price of an item has no relation to the collector
or hobbyist, it is a price to get a factory machine going again
possibly cheap for the machine owner. Still an abuse of pricing
though!
Dave Caroline
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:08 AM, SPC <spedraja at ono.com> wrote:
'Refurbished:'
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/X-RAY-XRAY-DEC-CPU-LSI-73-M8192-LORAL-WESTON-GAGE…
No comment.
SPc.
6:40 a.m.
You are right, of course. But I can't avoid to link in my mind prices like
this with others perhaps more centered in the collector field. It appears to
be an attitude in growth.
SPc.
2011/9/26 Dave Caroline <dave.thearchivist at gmail.com>
The "new old stock" price of an item has no
relation to the collector
or hobbyist, it is a price to get a factory machine going again
possibly cheap for the machine owner. Still an abuse of pricing
though!
Dave Caroline
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:08 AM, SPC <spedraja at ono.com> wrote:
'Refurbished:'
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/X-RAY-XRAY-DEC-CPU-LSI-73-M8192-LORAL-WESTON-GAGE…
No comment.
SPc.
11:08 a.m.
think thats bad u should see the price of the clone ibm portable..........
rebranded under ge faunic..........
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 5:40 AM, SPC <spedraja at ono.com> wrote:
You are right, of course. But I can't avoid to
link in my mind prices like
this with others perhaps more centered in the collector field. It appears
to
be an attitude in growth.
SPc.
2011/9/26 Dave Caroline <dave.thearchivist at gmail.com>
The "new old stock" price of an item
has no relation to the collector
or hobbyist, it is a price to get a factory machine going again
possibly cheap for the machine owner. Still an abuse of pricing
though!
Dave Caroline
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:08 AM, SPC <spedraja at ono.com> wrote:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/X-RAY-XRAY-DEC-CPU-LSI-73-M8192-LORAL-WESTON-GAGE…
'Refurbished:'
No comment.
SPc.
1:02 p.m.
On 26 Sep 2011 at 10:08, Adrian Stoness wrote:
think thats bad u should see the price of the clone
ibm
portable.......... rebranded under ge faunic..........
"Fanuc" maybe?
At any rate, the world is indeed filled with dreamers:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/for/2607691262.html
I'd love to "call and leave a message" for the guy, but he wouldn't
like it.
--Chuck
5:24 p.m.
On 9/26/2011 10:02 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 26 Sep 2011 at 10:08, Adrian Stoness wrote:
you'd think for that sort of money he'd at least post photos of the
actual item..... then again maybe not.
steve
think thats bad u should see the price of the
clone ibm
portable.......... rebranded under ge faunic..........
"Fanuc" maybe?
At any rate, the world is indeed filled with dreamers:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/for/2607691262.html
I'd love to "call and leave a message" for the guy, but he wouldn't
like it.
--Chuck
12:30 p.m.
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 05:38:34 PM SPC wrote:
'Refurbished:'
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/X-RAY-XRAY-DEC-CPU-LSI-73-M8192-LORAL-WESTON-GAGE
-SERIES-2000-4000-READY-GO-/330618674551?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf
a689d77
No comment.
SPc.
The only thing that depreciates faster in value than a computer is food.
Alexis.
1 p.m.
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 09/26/2011 12:30 PM, Alexis Kotlowy wrote:
Gut feeling, eh?
g.
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The only thing that depreciates faster in value
than a computer is food.
Most things deteriorate with time, but food really turns to shit.
1:20 p.m.
On 09/26/2011 01:00 PM, Gene Buckle wrote:
Gut feeling, eh?
First I smelled it in the air, then I went looking and found that I
had solid proof.
-Dave
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Port Charlotte, FL
The only thing that depreciates faster in value than a
computer is food.
Most things deteriorate with time, but food really turns to shit.
9:40 p.m.
On 26/09/11 1:20 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 09/26/2011 01:00 PM, Gene Buckle wrote:
Gut feeling, eh?
First I smelled it in the air, then I went looking and found that I had
solid proof.
I also saw this proven by inadvertent experiment ... but I won't go into
details :)
--Toby
The only thing that depreciates faster in value than a
computer is
food.
Most things deteriorate with time, but food really turns to shit.
-Dave
10:38 p.m.
On 09/26/2011 09:40 PM, Toby Thain wrote:
First I smelled it in the air, then I went looking and found that I had
solid proof.
I also saw this proven by inadvertent experiment ... but I won't go into
details :)
Eeeeeeew.
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
> The only
thing that depreciates faster in value than a computer is
> food.
Most things deteriorate with time, but food really turns to shit.
Gut feeling, eh? 
12:50 p.m.
Maybe. The autos are even worst because you lost money only getting them out
of the seller's garage.
But of course there is the strange case of the Wolkswagen Beetle and other
old models.
SPc.
2011/9/26 Alexis Kotlowy <thrashbarg at kaput.homeunix.org>
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 05:38:34 PM SPC wrote:
-SERIES-2000-4000-READY-GO-/330618674551?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf
> a689d77
> No comment.
> SPc.
The only thing that depreciates faster in value than a computer is food.
Alexis.
'Refurbished:'
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/X-RAY-XRAY-DEC-CPU-LSI-73-M8192-LORAL-WESTON-GAGE
12:52 p.m.
On 09/26/2011 04:08 AM, SPC wrote:
'Refurbished:'
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/X-RAY-XRAY-DEC-CPU-LSI-73-M8192-LORAL-WESTON-GAGE…
No comment.
Apparently "refurbished" has been redefined to mean "used".
-Dave
--
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Port Charlotte, FL
3:29 p.m.
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Subject: Re: Classic computing, the invesment of the future (aka.
Inflation)
On 09/26/2011 04:08 AM, SPC wrote:
WESTON-GAGE-SERIES-2000-4000-READY-GO-
/330618674551?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cfa689d77
You see so many items like this listed as "refurbished". One of these days I
am going to ask one of these sellers what they actually do to "refurbish"
their items, it would be interesting to see what they say.
Regards
Rob
No comment.
Apparently "refurbished" has been redefined to mean "used".
3:41 p.m.
You see so many items like this listed as
"refurbished". One of these days I
am going to ask one of these sellers what they actually do to "refurbish"
their items, it would be interesting to see what they say.
Items that are "refurbished" generally means they have some sort of
(implied or actual) warranty. It is mostly a lawyer thing.
--
Will
3:55 p.m.
On 09/26/2011 03:41 PM, William Donzelli wrote:
...whether it's actually "refurbished" or not. Gotta love lawyers.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
You see so
many items like this listed as "refurbished". One of these days I
am going to ask one of these sellers what they actually do to "refurbish"
their items, it would be interesting to see what they say.
Items that are "refurbished" generally means they have some sort of
(implied or actual) warranty. It is mostly a lawyer thing.
3:41 p.m.
On 09/26/2011 03:29 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote:
I've asked this several times about "refurbished" chips on eBay.
I've never gotten a reply.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
WESTON-GAGE-SERIES-2000-4000-READY-GO-
/330618674551?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cfa689d77
You see so many items like this listed as "refurbished". One of these days I
am going to ask one of these sellers what they actually do to "refurbish"
their items, it would be interesting to see what they say.
No comment.
Apparently "refurbished" has been redefined to mean "used".
4:05 p.m.
On 09/26/2011 03:58 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
I've never seen "furbishment" in a manufacturing process flow. The
world might be in need of a great deal of furbishment services.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
Apparently
"refurbished" has been redefined to mean "used".
Would they need to be "refurbished" if they had been furbished right to
begin with?
4:01 p.m.
On 26 Sep 2011 at 20:29, Rob Jarratt wrote:
> Apparently "refurbished" has been
redefined to mean "used".
You see so many items like this listed as
"refurbished". One of these
days I am going to ask one of these sellers what they actually do to
"refurbish" their items, it would be interesting to see what they say.
What we used to know as "refurbished" now seems to go by the term
"remanufactured". In other words, the thing went back to the
manufacturer (ideal) or service depot, where any worn or faulthy
parts were replaced with new items and the unit brought up to
essentially new operating condition--what we used to call
"refurbished".
I get really irritated when I see "refurbished" used in conjusction
with things such as SDRAM memory. What the heck was done?
Is "furbish"/"refurbish" one of those pairs where both words mean the
same thing. Both appear to mean "renovate" (which, strictly speaking
means "to make new again").
--Chuck
4:22 p.m.
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:08, SPC <spedraja at ono.com> wrote:
At least an item with an insignificant shipping cost compared to the price
of the item !
St?phane
http://kiva.org/team/kathleen
27 Sep
27 Sep
2:06 a.m.
I know dealers that used to advertise "refurbished", which usually
meant they wiped it off. I would rather take "tested" any day. You got
to know who really knew was real and be trusted. Only a small % really
tested parts.
Paul
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:08 AM, SPC <spedraja at ono.com> wrote:
'Refurbished:'
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/X-RAY-XRAY-DEC-CPU-LSI-73-M8192-LORAL-WESTON-GAGE…
No comment.
SPc.
3:10 p.m.
I know dealers that used to advertise "refurbished", which usually
meant they wiped it off. I would rather take "tested" any day. You got
to know who really knew was real and be trusted. Only a small % really
tested parts.
Reminds me of the seller I saw at a radio rally (hamfest) about 20 years
ago. He had 2 piles of IDE hard drives. One plie were 'tested and
working' The other pile as 'untested'. Hmmm....
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