- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by Arno_1983＠gmx.de

Hello all, as I'm trying out some "new" old computers I got during the last few weeks, I'm of course encountering new problems. I have spent some time with search engines without major success, so I figured it would be okay to ask here. Case one concerns the SGI O2 workstation. I pulled three of those out of a dumpster; they only had a piece of the blue case plastic left on top and the base trays were broken as well - even the CD bezels are missing. The chassis look pretty battered but the machines power up, play their happy notes and enter the resident menu. Each has one disk tray but the disks were probably ruined by being flung into the container. They also all have an A/V module with the O2cam connector in the back panel. The connector is broken in one of them and I'll probably remove it altogether since I don't have a cam anyway but... the S-Video and Composite I/O jacks in the side panel are covered with a square sheet of textured self-adhesive plastic. The PCB silkscreening states they are Moosehead A/V modules and it looks like no major components are missing from the boards so I hope the video I/O will work once I pull the stickers off? TIA, -- Arno Kletzander Student Assistant // Studentische Hilfskraft Informatik Sammlung Erlangen www.iser.uni-erlangen.de Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser

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VAXstation/MicroVAX 2000 CPU/FPU overheating?

by mtapley＠swri.edu

At 9:26 -0600 2/29/08, Dave wrote: >Yes, I'm wondering if it's something like that, however how likely is it >that both devices would experience the same fairly-uncommon failure mode >at the same time? I'm chiming in very late and probably not very helpfully, but is there any way a decoupling cap in the vicinity of the FPU/CPU could either load them or generate heat itself by beginning to short to ground? My only VAX (4000VLC) had a fault like that in the reset circuit which would sometimes hold it in reset, as you may remember >from a couple of years ago. -- - Mark, 210-379-4635 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Asteroids headed toward planets inhabited by beings that don't have technology adequate to stop them: Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.

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Integral RAM upgrade

by wayne.smith＠charter.net

> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:51:10 +0000 (GMT) > From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) > Subject: Integral RAM upgrade > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Message-ID: <m1JUomf-000J3kC at p850ug1> > Content-Type: text/plain > > I recently bought another HP Integral on E-bay, and after the normal > cleanup on the floppy drive it works fine. The expansion slots both > cotnained boards, one was a 512K RAM board, the other an RS232 oard > (which is the main reason I watned this machine!). > > Anyway, the RAM board was clearly identical to the 1M board, > just with > only have the RAM chips fitted and the links set differently. > Having got > a lot of 41256 chips on old PC memory boards, I spent the afternoon > upgrading it to 1M. > [snip] > > In my machine, wioth no RAM boards fitted. there's 264K free. > With the > 512K board, it reports 764K free. And with the 1M board, 1264K free. > > My question is what's happening to the other 12K of each half-meg? Or > deos 'status' have an odd definition of a kilobyte? > > -tony > Don't know where the 12K is going to - maybe address space reserved for I/O - but I have to say I was extremely impressed by the upgrade - almost exciting reading!

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Informer terminal

by acje＠flash.net

This message is for Mike McFadden. Mike, I came across your message while looking for a replacement for my informer 207. What info are you needing. I think that I have a photocopy of the manual around here and a few other pages of info. Your message said you had 2 of these terminals. Would you be interested in selling one? If so, at what price. The one I have just died and I need a replacement. I use it as a serial terminal on an old SCO Xenix computer, that has been running since 1984. Thanks Stephen 817-346-3777

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PC-Mac SCSI data exchange question

by Arno_1983＠gmx.de

Ray Arachelian <ray at arachelian.com> wrote: > There are many ways to go, some twisty, some straightforward: Whow, that's a lot of ways indeed! Thanks for the comprehensive writeup. > 1 There was a commercial Samba client named "Dave" for Mac OS. If you > can find that, it will do the trick. Indeed, w2k server will share out > AFS, but since you don't have that, you'll need another path. I have heard of something similar called "Mocha SMB" which at least would have been shareware, but have hitherto been unable to find it anywhere. This would perhaps be my best bet. > 2. If you're familiar with Unix (...) Not yet, and probably not anytime soon. > (3.) If this is unavailable to you, you could also go with a commercial > product such as: http://www.dataviz.com/products/maclinkplus/ -- there > are physical dangers here if you're not careful with the drive (static, > dropping drive on the floor, miswiring it, damage from a broken external > case, etc.) as well as soft dangers here (you might accidentally damage > the OS 8 hard drive by writing to it, so be sure you know which drive is > which and mount everything read only until you're 100% sure, etc.) The data is still backed up somewhere else and the OS 8 drive was a fresh install so there's not much to worry about (and yes, I have installed and moved SCSI hard drives in several sorts of machines and enclosures...) but I don't yet understand why I would need a commercial product since OS 8 rather clearly states that it is able to use DOS formatted media - but doesn't go out of its way to point out how (the help "wizard" gets hung in a loop where it repeatedly asks me to select the volume I want to format although it already is). > 4. Other choices, get a machine that runs OS X, perhaps a good old G4 > with large hard drives, which will allow you to share both AFS and CIFS. > > 5. Find an old copy of Netware 4.x and build yourself a Netware file > server, these too work as a nice file server. (sigh, brings back old > memories of my misspent youth :-) Two nice ideas for which I might actually even have the hardware (dunno if an iMac is going to take OS X and my HP NetServer LH6000 would be a bitch to set up because it's so huuuge), but both depending on additional commercial software. > 6. Install NetATalk on a Linux machine and use it as a server (I've not > played with this myself, so I've no idea what it does to resource forks) Linux, see above. > 7. Turn on an ftp daemon on one of the machines - you could install > Cygwin on the w2k machine and run one of the ftpd's on there, or you can > find a windows ftp server (i.e. http://www.warftp.org/ ) that will work > on w2k workstation - if I remember right, there's a half crippled > version of IIS on there which acts as a personal web server - perhaps > like it's bigger brother it may have an ftpd. Or if that's not > available, use a third machine that does have an ftpd (Linux, FreeBSD, > OpenVMS, etc.) as a go-between. There are ftp clients for the Mac, and > it wouldn't surprise me if you could find an ftpd for OS 8 either ( > http://www.pure-mac.com/ftp.html ) The OS 8 install includes Netscape 3.something which just might work as an FTP client, and WarFTP is free, so this is probably what I'm going to try next. > 8. You could use an scp/ssh client such as NiftyTelnet > http://www.lysator.liu.se/~jonasw/freeware/niftyssh/ - which might work > on OS 8 (I think it may want OS 9 though) to copy the data over scp to a > server that has an sshd (there is one for windows - > http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net/ ) Totally new stuff to me, too much to learn. > 9. For 3GB of data, the worst thing you could do is go over a serial > port with a terminal program such as ZTerm on one end and HyperTerminal > on the windows end. It's horrible because at most you'll be able to go > at 56Kbps and will take forever. I had already contemplated that but will only use it if all else fails. > 10. You could go with one of the sneakernet paths: some sort of > removable drive such as ZIP, Jazz, CD-R, etc. but you'll need to somehow > break up the data into pieces and use a common file system (ISO9660 and > its variants for the CD's, FAT16 for the windoze friendly ones, etc.) This is what I was already trying with that hard disk, but couldn't find a format which both machines could use. Resource Forks are of no concern since the stuff was all generated and used under Windows until now. -- Arno Kletzander Student Assistant // Studentische Hilfskraft Informatik Sammlung Erlangen www.iser.uni-erlangen.de Psst! Geheimtipp: Online Games kostenlos spielen bei den GMX Free Games! http://games.entertainment.web.de/de/entertainment/games/free

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An Interesting Control Panel

by josefcub＠gmail.com

I was watching "How It's Made" on the Discovery Channel this morning, and they were constructing speakers. As they went to magnetize the ferrite ring, I noticed the operator working with an interesting three-button control panel. The button he pressed was a red "Fault" light/button. To their left was a beautiful white "Ready" light/button, and one marked "Write Protect". This strikes me as a very interesting magnetizing apparatus. Josef -- "I laugh because I dare not cry. This is a crazy world and the only way to enjoy it is to treat it as a joke." -- Hilda "Sharpie" Burroughs, "The Number of the Beast" by Robert A. Heinlein

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Monroe Programmable Electronic Calculator

by melamy＠earthlink.net

my high school got one in 1971 and through the punch cards, you could get to binary &, |, and shift commands as well as program jumps. I have a complete one in a box with reader, manuals, unused punch cards, etc. It was an eBay nostalgia buy a few years ago. One of these days, I will be organized enough to have it on a table to play with it. It was always fun to see the flashing nixie tubes as it ran calculations. As to the tech inside, I would expect that it was a multi-LSI "big" chip dedicated calculator design, so any memory was probably implemented as registers in the chips. JUst a gues anyway. best regards, Steve Thatcher -----Original Message----- >From: Brian Knittel <brian at quarterbyte.com> >Sent: Feb 28, 2008 10:58 PM >To: cctalk at classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: Monroe Programmable Electronic Calculator > >Ooooh! That's really cool. My high school had one of >these around 1975 or 1976, we used it before we talked them >into buying an Altair. The punch card unit was pretty spiffy, >I think it used 8 of the row bits? And IIRC there were >instructions you could punch that were not available from >the keyboard. The cards were the votamatic type: hanging >chad and all. It was a lot of fun to program, and pretty >interesting and complex for a calculator. > >I'd love to know what the memory technology was inside >-- acoustic delay, static RAM, or what?

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Panasonic Exec. Partner information wanted

by bolenracing＠gmail.com

Do you still have the exec partner? I had one in college and would like to have another one. Thank you. Andrew Bolen

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VAXstation/MicroVAX 2000 CPU/FPU overheating?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

All... I pulled out NETBOT:: a 12mb uV2000 with a RD53 and booted it with the case off to get the temp and the hotter of the two chips stabilized at 58C +- a tiny bit while running VMS 5.4-3. Like I said they do run hot. Allison > >Subject: Re: VAXstation/MicroVAX 2000 CPU/FPU overheating? > From: Allison <ajp166 at bellatlantic.net> > Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:50:52 -0500 > To: cctech at classiccmp.org > >The same CPU and FPU are sued on the KA630cpu (uVAXII) and in early >microvax3100s so any of them should compare. > >Is it possible that someone has overclocked the that uV2000??? > >FYI: gate leakage would kill the chips not make it run hot. The >usual reasons for hot running are: > > Over voltage! > Overclock > Undercool > Excessive bus loads (capacitive or resistive) > >Since the machine is a closed system for the most part the first is >most likely and the others are least likely. > >I may add that over 60C is way too hot at the heatsink and the die >due to thermal resistance will be hotter. > >I'm trying to pull down one of my uV2ks and fire it up. > > >Allison > >> >>Subject: Re: VAXstation/MicroVAX 2000 CPU/FPU overheating? >> From: "Dave Dunfield" <dave06a at dunfield.com> >> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:18:31 -0500 >> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> >> >>> I assume these CPU and FPU chips are MOS devices. Is it possile that >>> excessive leakage across the gate oxide layer in some transsitors of that >>> chip would cause it to run hot, but still work? I'm pretty sure I've seen >>> chips that seem to work, but get hot and then stop working, althoguh >>> cooling them with freezer spray keeps them running. And these were not >>> chips driving high pwoer laods -- they were things like the clock/timer >>> microcontroller in a VCR. >> >>Yes, I'm wondering if it's something like that, however how likely is it >>that both devices would experience the same fairly-uncommon failure mode >>at the same time? >> >>Perhaps I've been engaging in the persuit of an undomesticated ornithoid... >> >>Is it possible that the devices normally run this hot, and the failure is >>occuring for another reason (possibly a side effect of the heat, as cooling >>them does allow it to keep running). >> >>Allison said "they do run hot" - does anyone know how hot? >> >>I did some further tests last night - I dug out my thermocouple and made >>some actual heat measurements with the system assembled, but with the color >>frame buffer removed - there should be better airflow, and this appears to >>be the case, since the machine did not die after 10 minites of operation. >> >>Ambient temp was measureing about 25 degrees C at the start of the test. >>>From power on, the CPU and FPU rose rapidly (within 3-4 minites) to >>the 70C range, then more slowly rose to temperatures of 76C for the CPU >>and 82C for the FPU after 10 mins. At this temperature they seemed to be >>getting stable - having done nearly 1-1/2 mins without an increase. It's >>possible/likely that they would climb anothe few degrees in extended >>operation. >> >>Once this temperature was reached, I held the system in RESET, and >>observed that the temps dropped back after a few minites to about 64C >>for the CPU and 68C for the FPU. >> >>To my mind, a processor running at 80C is damn hot - most of the embedded >>devices I work with list absolute maximum running temperature as 70C or >>75C - but perhaps the DEC devices are designed to run hotter - I note the >>Intel 486 datasheet lists absolute maximum (under bias) as 110C ... >> >>Anyone on the list with a VS 2000 or uVAX 2000 that can do some temperature >>measurements? >> >>Dave >> >>-- >>dave06a (at) Dave Dunfield >>dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com >>com Collector of vintage computing equipment: >> http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/index.html

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PC-Mac SCSI data exchange question

by Arno_1983＠gmx.de

My second question concerns data transfer between (Windoze) PCs and Macs. I got a Power Macintosh 7200 (with Mac OS 8.0) which I would like to move some data to (approx. 3 GB); filesharing over Ethernet doesn't work without additional software since the Mac doesn't understand SMB/CIFS and W98/2k (not Server)don't understand enough AFS. "Web Sharing" only supports the opposite direction (PC can read data from the Mac) unless I'm missing something. So what I'm left with is pushing the stuff onto an idle 4GB SCSI disk that I can then hang off the Mac. Unfortunately I couldn't get an idea how to accomplish this: if I format the disk on the PC, the Mac will come up with "Uninitialized Volume". Initializing the volume as "DOS 4GB" doesn't work, the same dialog comes up again after I restart and going back to the PC I can even still read the contents! I tried one FAT32 partition (primary) as well as two FAT16 drives inside an extended partition. Thanks in advance, yours sincerely Arno Kletzander -- Arno Kletzander Student Assistant // Studentische Hilfskraft Informatik Sammlung Erlangen www.iser.uni-erlangen.de Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser

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HP 7900A /7907/7914R

by kelly＠montereybaycommunications.com

Hi Jay, I was curious if you have any of these older HP-IB disc drives available. Thank you, Kelly Kelly J. Francis kelly at montbay.com 831-429-6144

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VAXstation/MicroVAX 2000 CPU/FPU overheating?

by dave06a＠dunfield.com

Hi Guys, I've just acquired a VAXstation 2000 (thanks Mouse!) which exhibits what appears to be an overheating issue. Powered up ir runs for about 10 mins or so (just sitting at the console prompt doing things like TEST 50 to display the configuration, pressing ENTER to get another '>>>' etc.). After about 10 mins (give or take) it fails, sometimes appears to reset, hangs etc. Firt thing I noticed is that the two surface mount chips with the round heatsinks affixed to them get *HOT* ... Hot enough that you wounldn't want to keep your finger on either of them for very long. I believe these are the CPU and FPU chip? - Is this normal for them to run this hot? They don't heat up alarmingly quickly, but after a few minutes they are hotter than I'd think normal. Aside from the eventual failure, it seems to run correctly - the self tests (including the FPU test) pass (except for those which don't have hardware installed, loopback connectors etc. When I got the system, it was jam packed with cards, including the main board, color frame buffer, double-sided memory expansion and an ethernet interface. During my testing, I've removed all of these except for the main board, and am running the system as a MicroVAX. I do have the resistor/loading card installed as is recommended when running the system lightly loaded. Power rails all look good - There is a 9V supply which the technial manual describes as "for loading" which has a separate supply and return. Relative to ground I measure about +5.6v on the supply and about -3.3 on the return, which I'm assuming is normal (?) Anyone know where I can obtain anything resembling a schematic? Other technical information (I have a PDF of the technical manual, however it's mostly "system information" from an operational point of view). Any known issues etc.? Regards, Dave -- dave06a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Collector of vintage computing equipment: http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/index.html

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IOmega

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> Were all the early 80's IOmega's SCSI or did they use something before that? The earliest devices were full height 10MB 8" SCSI drives that had optional slave drives attached. Their main claim to fame was using floppy type media. The first Syquests were MFM ST506, using removable plated media.

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Monroe Programmable Electronic Calculator

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

Ooooh! That's really cool. My high school had one of these around 1975 or 1976, we used it before we talked them into buying an Altair. The punch card unit was pretty spiffy, I think it used 8 of the row bits? And IIRC there were instructions you could punch that were not available from the keyboard. The cards were the votamatic type: hanging chad and all. It was a lot of fun to program, and pretty interesting and complex for a calculator. I'd love to know what the memory technology was inside -- acoustic delay, static RAM, or what? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _| _| _| Brian Knittel _| _| _| Quarterbyte Systems, Inc. _| _| _| Tel: 1-510-559-7930 _| _| _| http://www.quarterbyte.com

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DEC stuff available

by dm561＠torfree.net

Passing this on from another list. Contact Tony at: tonym AT compusource DOT net if interested. mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've tried to subscribe to CCTalk like 3-4 times - never got a response at ALL. Wonder what the heck is/was going on... I got a buddy in GA who has some DEC stuff available: (see below) Can you pass that along to CCList for me? T -- Friend of mine in GA has a DEC Pro 380 for sale. $125 shipped/obo This is for main unit + LK201 keyboard, and it has a hard disk and a floppy drive. No monitor is included, so you'll have to scrounge for that... let me know, and I'll relay if anyone is interested. -- Here's more of what he has available. Let me know if any interests you. COMPUTERS 1 DEC 2000 Alpha AXP w/128 Meg 2-6G HD, 2.88 Floppy, CD Rom, 3 SCSI cards, Network Card, Fiber Optic Card, EISA w/ Configuration Disk, Keys, Works Mod #PB223-CA Ser. KA431BZEV5 1 DEC 2000 Alpha AXP w/128 Meg 2-6G HD, 2.88 Floppy, CD Rom 2 SCSI cards, Network Card, Fiber Optic Card, EISA w/ Configuration Disk, Keys, Works Mod #PB22B Ser KA352FYMZO MONITOR 1 17" Digital PCXAX-VZ KEYBOARDS 1 DEC 2000 KB 1 Digital RT-101 4 Compaq 101 5 Digital LK 201 BA MONITOR CABLES 4 3-BNC to Large 15 Pin Female 1 3-BNC to 3 Pin MotherBoard 1 5-BNC to Small 15 Pin Male 2 Large 15 Pin Female to Large 15 Pin Female Extension 3 Large 15 Pin Female to Small 15 Pin Female Extension 1 Large 15 Pin Female to Large 15 Pin Male Extension MANUALS 1 VT 330/VT 340 Programmer Reference Manual, Vol 1 Text Programming 1 VT 330/VT 340 Programmer Reference Manual, Vol 2 Graphics Program 1 VT 330/VT 340 Installing and Using - Video Terminal (The above are all new in shrink Wrap) 1 VT 420 Installing and Using the VT 420 Terminal (NEW) 1 LA 50 Programmer Refwerence Manual 1 Installing and Using the LA 50 Printer 1 LA 120 User Guide 1 DecMate II System Managers Guide to Easy Com DEC Equip 3 Digital CD ROM 1 2.88 Floppy 10 CD Carrier SCSI Cables of all kinds.

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Monroe Programmable Electronic Calculator

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

Ooooh! That's really cool. My high school had one of these, used it before we talked them into buying an Altair. The punch card unit was pretty spiffy, I think it used 8 of the row bits? And there were instructions you could punch that were not available from the keyboard. The cards were the punchamatic type: hanging chad and all. When I was 15 it was a lot of fun to program. I'd love to know what the memory technology was inside -- acoustic delay, static RAM, or what?

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cctalk Digest, Vol 54, Issue 62

by geoffb＠vigilan.com

Front panels for modern day computers/microprocessors are somewhat problematic. The cache(s) maintained internally allow for local instruction execution without making references to the external memory buses, and the prefetch mechanisms internal could also indicate memory activity even if no instruction or data item were actually fetched! Status information is not as directly available, and if it were it would probably not reflect status in "real time" that is occurring at the same time of viewing on the panel. Nevertheless, memory bus activity could be monitored, and what limited status information is available could be produced. The point though is the information displayed, say on minicomputer panels, is not readily available now due to higher levels of integration on the chip itself. On the note of the CDC 6600 machines, et al., There was a peripheral processor which was used to boot the mainframe, and it had many rows of toggle switches, in groups of 18 or 36 if I remember right, which either contained the boot code or controlled the boot. The peripheral processor was a computer in its own right by any standards. Hope this helps. --Geoff > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:33:28 -0800 > From: "John Floren" <slawmaster at gmail.com> > Subject: front panel display for a modern PC > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > I'd really like to have something like one of the old > mainframe/minicomputer control panels for my PC, but I'm just not sure > how to implement it. Anybody here tried something like that? Ideally, > you could power it on, see registers, toggle stuff into memory, have > lights for interrupts, that kind of thing. Yeah, I know, as soon as I > bring up an operating system, the ability to toggle things into memory > would be rather dangerous, but I just can't resist the charm of the > idea :) > So... doable? Impossible? Improbable? > > John >

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Ebay grrrr #743

by dm561＠torfree.net

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 02:07:53PM +0100, Ade Vickers wrote: > A nice-looking CBM Pet 2001 with chicklet keyboard (Item #300199788685), > described as: > > "The computer powers up fine as you can see from the pictures, but it is > only half way through the booting up process.... a simple problem to fix... Don't forget the "from what I've seen on the net" part... > > Erm, yes. Very simple to fix, if you happen to have a spare of the part (or > parts) that have failed. Otherwise, a complete bastard (pardon my Francais) > of a job.... and well beyond your average ePayer, I'd warrant. ------------- Boy, tough crowd... Repairing a PET is often as simple as reseating a memory chip; worst case is probably a bad ROM in which case you just replace all the RAM/ROM chips with one of the modern 64K RAM/ROM adapters and sell the working old ones. Half the fun of buying something like this is gambling on it being a simple fix. As Ethan says, if you buy a non-working old computer and don't know (or have a friend who knows) anything about repairing them, well... Looks like an up-front description of a non-working system to me; hope he/she appreciates your advertising the listing here. m

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1st stage loader for IMSAI - need ascii to binary

by aliensrcooluk＠yahoo.co.uk

Yes, but many sites play music and video via flash controlled webpages which don't always give you that flexibility. I am well aware of the ability to download flash video's to my harddrive. I have about 500 myself (of which about 1% would be considered on-topic). With more and more webpages being filled with flash and javascript content, it's getting harder to find sites that are actually viewable on Amiga's, C64's and other retro computers/games consoles (... trying to drive it back on topic). Regards, Andrew B aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk PS. Does anyone have Jay's email address at hand? Almost every time I reply to a message via my yahoo web-mail account it get's bounced back with the following error message: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>: Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 time travel between hops [BODY]PPS. This is 3rd attempt. First two attempts (Yahoo web-mail) failedso I am now trying via Outlook Express. John Foust <jfoust at threedee.com> wrote: At 11:43 PM 2/27/2008, Patrick Finnegan wrote: >"Streaming" tends to imply no disk cache copy, more like listening to a >radio station... Browsers and other players might cache in order to give you the ability to rewind and replay, for example. There are many ways these days to save a YouTube video and convert to another format (browser plugins particularly for Firefox, sites like keepvid.com, etc.) - John

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Monroe Programmable Electronic Calculator

by tponsford＠rnsmte.com

Hi All, I picked up two interesting machines at the auction this week. The first is a Monroe Electric Programmable Scientific Calculator model #1785(circa 1971) alas, it is missing the optional punch card reader although the machine itself seems to work fine. Also came with some instructional books! The second is a Zenith LF-171 portable, which is a re-badged Morrow Pivot, complete with power supply and the black canvas carrying case. An 8088 (80C88) with an LCD screen!! All in all, a good take! Cheers! TOM

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Article about Seattle schools still running a VAX

by tiggerlasv＠aim.com

Not being from the Vax world, I wonder difficult it would be for them to move them over to SIMH or CHARON emulators? The savings in power & air conditioning alone would probably pay for the new equipment in the first year. ;-) T

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SAGE console replica

by legalize＠xmission.com

If anyone is interested in collaborating (long-term, probably not completed for a few years) in creating a replica of the SAGE consoles (see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:SAGE_console.jpeg>) please contact me off-list. I want one, but feel the likelihood of me ever getting a real one is vanishingly small. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

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TTL CPU Re: IMSAI style C&K 7101 switches

by jam＠magic.com

Grant, > On a side note, who here would be interested in ultra high resolution > scans of old computer PCBs? I'm scanning all PCBs at 3200dpi for > archival. Photoshop won't save jpegs that large, but a 1600dpi scan is > only 50MB or so. Some day I plan to release my whole archive. You mentioned JPEGs. If you are archiving the scans in JPEG format, try zooming in on bunches of traces or text on the board. JPEG creates a lot of artifacts. It may very well be case that a 600dpi scan using lossless compression will be much cleaner and usable than a 3200dpi scan using heavy JPEG compression. Even with 6 mil traces, 600dpi gives you more than 3 pixels per trace. I've tried a few of my boards using 1200dpi, 8-bit color, and GIF/TIFF, with results that seemed acceptable. James Markevitch

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CDC (MPI) floppy drive

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

Does anybody haev a CDC/MPI full height 5.25" floppy drive? No, I am not looking to buy one, I need some information on how it goes together. I have one in an HP9826, it's fucntionally the same as a TM100-2A, but intenrally quite different. The area I am baving prolems understanding is the head positioner. The head carriage runs conventionally on a pair of metal rails fixed ot the base casting. At the rear right of the drive is a stepper motor with the spindle axis vertical. On that spindle is the metal drum of a taut band mechanism, there's alos the conventional taut band. That fits over a pin on the drum. The ends of the band have holes that fit over pins on the head carriage, the rear p[in being fixed to the carriage, the front one is spring-loaded to tension the band. So far, so good. Mouleded into the head carriage are 2 arms that extend to the right of the drive, past the taut band assemly. They seem to carry some kind of damper. And that's the real prolkem In my drive, the damer had oozed grease all over the chassis. I've stripped it all down and cleaned it up. What I can't work out is how it should go back together. The 'damper' consists of a weight made af a soft metal, probably lead. And a metal shaft, about 1mm diameter, that runs through a hole in the middle of this weight, the ends of which locate in the arms I mentioned. And that's all I have. There's no obvious place to put grease inside the weight (I've looked down the hole as best I an). If you put grease on the shaft, it's just going to ooze out again. Also, what keeps the weight in the right position on the shaft? It's considerale shorter than the space between the arms. Surely it shouldn't just flop backwards and forwards? Another odditiy. When I removed the tauth band, I notixed what appeared to be a plastic clip on one of the pins. More careful inspection showed it was an O-ring that had split. OK, I can get replacements. But why put an O-ring there in the first place? It's not going to keep the band on the pin, or anything like that. My thought is that this has been dismantled before, that the O-ring actually came from the shaft that carries the weight, and that there may be parts missing (Springs, washers, etc). Does anyone ahve such a drive and could at least tell me what the damper appears to consist of (No, I am not asking you to take it to bits, just indicate if there's anything on that shaft other than the weight, if there are any ruber seals. etc? -tony

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CDC (MPI) floppy drive

by g-wright＠att.net

Hi Tony Since my 7771 1501 dive had problems and I did not find any Info. I did find a NIB dive. It has the same weight that seems to be there to stablize the movement of the head. The weight on the new drive (but old stock) has no grease on the frame of the drive but was stuck on the shaft. It does have the thick grease or ?? on the ends of the weight where the shaft enters and exits. After warming it a little it started to slide on the shaft. I can slide it the whole distance. I looked at the old drive and it does the same. It looks like it dampens some of the quick motions of the head carriage?? But the grease keeps it from moving very much. I would guess it has real thick grease in it ??? So it can only slide a little on the shaft. It may have some kind of "o" ring to help seal one end, but I did not take it apart. If needed, I could take apart the dead one. - Jerry Jerry Wright JLC inc g-wright at att.net -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) > > Does anybody haev a CDC/MPI full height 5.25" floppy drive? No, I am not > looking to buy one, I need some information on how it goes together. > > I have one in an HP9826, it's fucntionally the same as a TM100-2A, but > intenrally quite different. The area I am baving prolems understanding is > the head positioner. > > The head carriage runs conventionally on a pair of metal rails fixed ot > the base casting. At the rear right of the drive is a stepper motor with > the spindle axis vertical. On that spindle is the metal drum of a taut > band mechanism, there's alos the conventional taut band. That fits over a > pin on the drum. The ends of the band have holes that fit over pins on > the head carriage, the rear p[in being fixed to the carriage, the front > one is spring-loaded to tension the band. > > So far, so good. > > Mouleded into the head carriage are 2 arms that extend to the right of > the drive, past the taut band assemly. They seem to carry some kind of > damper. And that's the real prolkem > > In my drive, the damer had oozed grease all over the chassis. I've > stripped it all down and cleaned it up. What I can't work out is how it > should go back together. > > The 'damper' consists of a weight made af a soft metal, probably lead. > And a metal shaft, about 1mm diameter, that runs through a hole in the > middle of this weight, the ends of which locate in the arms I mentioned. > And that's all I have. There's no obvious place to put grease inside the > weight (I've looked down the hole as best I an). If you put grease on the > shaft, it's just going to ooze out again. > > Also, what keeps the weight in the right position on the shaft? It's > considerale shorter than the space between the arms. Surely it shouldn't > just flop backwards and forwards? > > Another odditiy. When I removed the tauth band, I notixed what appeared > to be a plastic clip on one of the pins. More careful inspection showed > it was an O-ring that had split. OK, I can get replacements. But why put > an O-ring there in the first place? It's not going to keep the band on > the pin, or anything like that. > > My thought is that this has been dismantled before, that the O-ring > actually came from the shaft that carries the weight, and that there may > be parts missing (Springs, washers, etc). > > Does anyone ahve such a drive and could at least tell me what the damper > appears to consist of (No, I am not asking you to take it to bits, just > indicate if there's anything on that shaft other than the weight, if > there are any ruber seals. etc? > > -tony >

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Speaking of PPT (was: Re: Friden Flexowriter)

by dm561＠torfree.net

What are generic PPT readers & perforators worth these days? I've got a few here that I'd like to convert into $$s some day... mike

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Offered: Ancient Macs & Monitors landfill bound, London SW1

by lproven＠gmail.com

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: martin_asa_1960 <martin_asa_1960 at yahoo.co.uk> Date: 24 Feb 2008 16:18 Subject: [FreeCycleLondon] Offered: Ancient MACs & Monitors landfill bound SW1 To: freecyclelondon at yahoogroups.com Offered: Ancient MACs & Monitors landfill bound SW11 I'm offering these as far and wide because I'm not sure many people will be interested as the MACs are that old. On Offer: x1 Power Macintosh 5500/225 Http adrress to image: http://img.wiki.excite.co.jp/upload/apple/4b/4bf6409b62f70f0e112b03757 90a1bc3_600x528.jpg x1 Power Macintosh 700/225 x1 Power Macintosh 7200/90 x1 Power Macintosh 5500/225 x1 Macintosh Performa 5500 x1 Apple MultiScan Display (Monitor) 15"(I think) x2 old MAC keyboards x1Pack of 10 MAC formatted diskettes(floppies?) x1 Packard Bell Logitech 15" monitor. Good looking beast but heavy! Model No: 5480E. Made '98 x1 Samsung Samtron 15" monitor. Model name: 55E Also an assortment of cables that came withthe MACs All have been in a dusty cupboard for years. I was told they all worked...? I've used the last two monitors recently so I can verify they work. As for the rest I assume it's only good for enthusiasts or tinkerers or students who are desperate for machines/parts to set up a network. This stuff is bulky and heavy; if you don't have a car or van it's not worth your while getting in touch- I don't deliver. -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat: liamproven at aol.com ? MSN/Messenger: lproven at hotmail.com Yahoo: liamproven at yahoo.co.uk ? Skype: liamproven ? ICQ: 73187508

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Free: VMS orange wall, TCPware manuals; FA: VAXstation 4000/60 32MB

by tgarcia＠hivemind.org

Hi all, Available for pick-up now from Worthing, West Sussex, England are twelve overfilled 34x24x25cm boxes of orange wall - VAX/VMS v3 and v4 era manuals. Or I can ship anywhere at your expense after 10 March. Detail below (era-vol-title). Condition is reasonable - some cover pages are less than pristine, while other manuals are still in their shrink wrap. Also for auction, shipping worldwide: one VAXstation 4000/60 32MB+RZ25 http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZtagq2 The equipment has been used for the VMS hobbyist programme, and now awaits your hobbyist licenses :-). More stuff probably available next month (a VT240+VR201 and a DECmate III?), but for now you are welcome to walk off with / pay shipping for: - TCPware 5.4 printed docset: netcu command ref, management guide, user's guide, programmer's guide, install/config guide; - a VT520 with apparently stuck-full brightness; - an HP A2094A CRT that has nothing to do with DEC but has been sitting taunting me. (1) 4-8-system messages and recovery procedures VAX-11 Fortran u/g, ref manual, installation guide 4-2A-command language, system messages 4-7-MACRO and instruction set (2) 3-8-Compatibility mode RSX-11M 3-3B-Text processing: TPU/EVE 4-8-as in (1) 3-3B-Text processing: VAX TPU ref. (3) MicroVMS 4.4 programming support manual 4-replacement binder-intro to sys routines, utility routines 4-" "-RMS manual, ana/rms, FDL 4-Guide to writing device driver for VAX/VMS (4) 3-4A-utils ref, magnetic tape u/g, SORT/MERGE u/g 4-8-as in (1) (again!) 4-4C-utilities PHONE-VERIFY (5) MicroVMS user manual part 2 MicroVMS programming support manual (again) + progarmmer pocket reference sealed-User's primer, FORTRAN primer, release notes promotional (SPD?) booklets: BASIC, BLISS, CLE, FORTRAN, MMS, RPG II, ADA, COBOL, performance + coverage analyser, APL, DEC/test manager 4-4A-ACL editor through LATCP (6) 4-Guide to networking on VAX/VMS DEQNA ethernet user's guide 4-2-Command language: DCL dictionary MicroVMS 4.4 programmer's manual 4-Guide to programming on VAX/VMS (FORTRAN edition) (7) TK50 user's reference card Booklets: Installing VAX/VMS on 8600 from HSC-based tape, " from magnetic tape Installing VAX/VMS on 11-780 from HSC-based tape, " from magnetic tape Installing VAX/VMS on UDA-based 11/730 from magnetic tape Running the UETP after installation 4-Guide to VAX/VMS file applications 4-Introduction to VAX/VMS DECNET-RSX guide to network management utilities (1985) Programming in VAX C 2.0 (8) 3-5B-System services/IO: IO user's guide volumes 1,2 3-1-General info, SPD etc. VAX-11 FORTRAN 3.0 reference manual, user's guide, installation guide (9) 4-1-Introduction, glossary etc. 4-2-Command language: DCL dictionary 4-1B-Release notes: vv4.2, 4.1, 4.0 (10) 3-7-VAX-11 Record Management Services DEC CBI course administrator's guide (1982) 4-8-as in 1 (yet again!) (11) 4-Guide to VAX/VMS disk and magnetic tape operations 4-Guide to using DCL + command procedures on VAX/VMS MicroVMS 4 programming support manual (again) (12) 4-Guide to VAXclusters MicroVMS 4.4 user's manual part 1 3-4B-prog. development tools 4-1A-general info etc. Please feel free to mail me if you have any questions. -- Tom Garcia | tgarcia at hivemind.org

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Fw: [personal] Offered: Ancient Macs & Monitors landfill bound, London SW1

by mike＠brickfieldspark.org

>From a local Freecycle group here in the UK, I could collect and store / ship if anybody is interested in the list of bits (others in the UK, or US if really interested !) Contact me or Liam or Martin direct. Mike mike at brickfieldspark.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liam Proven" <lproven at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:05 AM Subject: [personal] Offered: Ancient Macs & Monitors landfill bound, London SW1 > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: martin_asa_1960 <martin_asa_1960 at yahoo.co.uk> > Date: 24 Feb 2008 16:18 > Subject: [FreeCycleLondon] Offered: Ancient MACs & Monitors landfill bound > SW1 > To: freecyclelondon at yahoogroups.com > > > Offered: Ancient MACs & Monitors landfill bound SW11 > > I'm offering these as far and wide because I'm not sure many people > will be interested as the MACs are that old. > > On Offer: > > x1 Power Macintosh 5500/225 > Http adrress to image: > http://img.wiki.excite.co.jp/upload/apple/4b/4bf6409b62f70f0e112b03757 > 90a1bc3_600x528.jpg > > x1 Power Macintosh 700/225 > > x1 Power Macintosh 7200/90 > > x1 Power Macintosh 5500/225 > > x1 Macintosh Performa 5500 > > x1 Apple MultiScan Display (Monitor) 15"(I think) > > x2 old MAC keyboards > > x1Pack of 10 MAC formatted diskettes(floppies?) > > x1 Packard Bell Logitech 15" monitor. Good looking beast but heavy! > Model No: 5480E. Made '98 > > x1 Samsung Samtron 15" monitor. Model name: 55E > > Also an assortment of cables that came withthe MACs > > All have been in a dusty cupboard for years. I was told they all > worked...? I've used the last two monitors recently so I can verify > they work. As for the rest I assume it's only good for enthusiasts or > tinkerers or students who are desperate for machines/parts to set up > a network. This stuff is bulky and heavy; if you don't have a car or > van it's not worth your while getting in touch- I don't deliver. > > -- > Liam Proven ? Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven > Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com > Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 > AOL/AIM/iChat: liamproven at aol.com ? MSN/Messenger: lproven at hotmail.com > Yahoo: liamproven at yahoo.co.uk ? Skype: liamproven ? ICQ: 73187508 > > >

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Friden Flexowriter

by dm561＠torfree.net

-----------Original Message: Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:16:04 -0700 From: Tim Riker <Tim at Rikers.org> Subject: Re: Friden Flexowriter There seem to be more decwriters around and they can often be had for cheaper. No paper tape punch/reader there though. On another topic, I have a "Motorized Tape Punch - Model 2" made by "Commercial Controls Corporation - Rochester 2, New York" which I believe became Friden. I have no docs on it whatsoever. The real thing I need to know is how to interface to it. It seems to be in adequate physical shape, except for the chad tube. It was made of plastic and has long since been broken off. http://rikers.org/gallery/hardware-tapepunch I'm very interested to hear of any known documentation for this beast. There's a picture there with the case off, perhaps the Flexowriter punch is similar inside? -------------- Can't help you on the interface; almost looks homebrew, considering it's built on perfboard. Has some previous owner perhaps already built an interface? Shouldn't be too hard to figure out though; looks like 8 lines to select the byte, and there should be another to "clock" it in, i.e., engage the clutch that drives the perforator. Looks like it could use a little cleaning & some lube. I have a unit that uses the same perforator mechanism; the motor runs constantly and there's a solenoid that trips a clutch to drive the punch shaft one revolution. There should be some cam switches inside that cast housing for timing, and 9 interposer solenoids inside the perforator that free or lock the perforator pins, and the selected ones are then driven through the tape. (These solenoids actually look like little relays without contacts). I doubt that you'd need any parts (these were pretty heavy duty units) but if you do, I've scrapped a few of these and still have some of the mechanical parts (no chad tubes though, alas). mike

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Fwd: [roys-tech-chat] Really Old Computer Stuff

by rtellason＠verizon.net

Can any of you guys verify one way or the other what that device with the tubes is that Dave is referring to in my group here? Feel free to stop on by if you like. :-) ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: [roys-tech-chat] Really Old Computer Stuff Date: Wednesday 27 February 2008 13:50 From: "D" <wa4qal at yahoo.com> To: roys-tech-chat at yahoogroups.com I just added some photos in the Photos section of some really old computer hardware. These are photos I've taken from my personal collection. One is what I've been told is the peripheral I/O register for an IBM 704 computer (Note the vacuum tubes!). Another is a core storage (memory) plane from an IBM System/360, most likely either a model 60 or 65. This particular core plane was defective, and has been cut out, so it's missing the connection fingers on the sides of the plane. The remaining two are a really old computing device. ;-) Dave Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roys-tech-chat/ ------------------------------------------------------- -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, ?a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. ?--Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin

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Friden Flexowriter

by slawmaster＠gmail.com

A quick question--can you hook a Friden Flexowriter to a modern computer? I'm not afraid to put together some sort of interface/converter, but I haven't really found any information about that kind of thing... if anyone here has experience with one of these, your input would be greatly appreciated. John -- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

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Article about Seattle schools still running a VAX

by compoobah＠valleyimplants.com

Finally saw it in the paper. I notice they talk about how the VAX is "so old that the University of Washington has an early model (of the VAX) on display as a museum piece". Hmm - they probably have an early IBM 5150 and Mac 128K on display as well. What does that mean for the desktops that the school district has?

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cctech Digest, Vol 54, Issue 43

by jefferwin＠gmail.com

> > I came up with the following from another source. Assumes ascii byte in > A, returns binary in lower nibble of A sui 3ch ; subtract the ascii base cpi 0ah ; check for 0-9 rc sui 07h ; subtract further for A-F ret Jeff Erwin pretty short and seems to work as long as valid ascii is being sent. > > > > Really this is pretty easy (this does NO error checking, and only > accepts upper > > case characters): > > Okay, being a dumb ol' bit-twiddler, I couldn't resist: > > (input character in A) > > adi 0c0h > mov b,a > sbb a > ani 09h > add b > ani 0fh > > Okay, folks--anyone got a shorter sans-jump one? One that perhaps > doesn't require an extra register? How about one that uses a DAA to > do something sneaky? > > Cheers, > Chuck > > > >

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IBM 6094 Lighted Programmable Function Keypad - Some Documentation...

by lbickley＠bickleywest.com

I didn't find a lot of information from IBM support on the 6094 - but I did get some. I have uploaded a old copy of IBM's RS/6000 Graphics Handbook which describes the IBM 6094 LPFK. The LPFK information is found in section 4.5. The good news - in can be attached to a serial port on an RS/6000 or PC - which means that it shouldn't be difficult to find the protocol for the critter. Not a lot of info in the manual - but something is better than nothing ;-) You can download a PDF of the manual via anonymous FTP from my website: ftp://bickleywest.com/IBM6094 Lyle -- Lyle Bickley Bickley Consulting West Inc. Mountain View, CA http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"

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Sun E450 free to good home

by legalize＠xmission.com

4x UltraSPARC II 480MHz CPUs, 4GB RAM, 2 SCSI discs. Located in 84094 -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

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VAX 2000 FPU test ?

by dave06a＠dunfield.com

Does anyone know how comprehensive the pwer-on Floating Point Unit test (9) is in the Vaxstation/uVAX 2000 ? Does it actually verify that the FPU is functional, or is it just looking to see if some basic indications are the it is present? The (9) FPU test is performed at power-on, and also by >>> TEST 9 I'm trying to determine if the FPU in my VS2000 is actually working. Will the console ROM run (normally) without an FPU? Unfortunately the (hopefully more comprehensive) system tests don't appear to test the FPU (or perhaps they don't see mine and therefore won't test it). Can anyone with a VS/uVAX 2000 tell me if: >>> TEST 80000106 >>> 9 Actually runs a test (mine just displays the testing header and halts. Another thing to try which takes longer is to run >>> TEST 102 And note which tests it runs. Mine runs: F (video) - Only if set to VS2000 C (Serial) B (memory) 7 (Hdc) 6 (TPC) Noteably missing are: E (clock) D (nvram) A (mmu) 9 (FPU) 8 (Timer) 5 (Interrupt controller) 4 (color FB) - I've got it removed 1 (Ethernet interface) - I've got it removed as well. All of these pass during power-up and TEST n tests (if I have them installed). Problem is, I don't know if the system tests are supposed to test these or not - I don't have a known good Vax2000 to compare with. BTW: To run TEST 102 and 80000106 you need to have the system test "hardware key" installed - this is just a DB-25 connector on the serial-port with pins 12 and 18 connected together. Thanks, Dave -- dave06a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Collector of vintage computing equipment: http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/index.html

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Available: DEC LA120 printer

by bbellamy＠palmettochevy.com

WE HAVE 3 LA 120 PRINTERS. WE NO LONGER USE THESE PRINTERS, SURE HATE TO JUST GIVE THEM AWAY. IS THERE ANY VALUE IN THESE PRINTERS? THANKS, B BELLAMY

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Article about Seattle schools still running a VAX

by alanp＠snowmoose.com

The Seattle Times is running an article about how the Seattle School District is still using a VAX to do school assignments. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/education/2004203746_enrollment26m.ht…

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MINDSET buffs...

by lbickley＠bickleywest.com

I just checked this out at Weirdstuff - Two brand new MINDSET systems with what looks like every accessory ever made for the critter, including O/S, development software, documentation, the original boxes, etc. See: http://images.weirdstuff.com/full/Bay2.jpg Here's information on how to bid (sealed bid auction): 1. The auction closes on 2/25/2008 at 6PM. 2. The Minimum bid is $26 per lot. 3. Winning bidders will be notified on following day by 12:00 PM. 4. Material must be paid for and picked up the same week. 5. Pickup times are 9:30 AM to 6PM, Monday through Saturday. 11AM-5PM on Sunday. If you are not local to the S.F. Bay Area, shipping is available. 6. Lots are sold AS-IS. The Lot number for the MINDSETs is: #23 You can FAX your Bid to: 408-743-5655 NOTE: I am associated with Weirdstuff only as a client (someone who buys stuff from them). I am not a collector of MINDSET gear, but after seeing it in the bid sale, I felt that some folks on the list would probably find this an interesting lot. Cheers, Lyle -- Lyle Bickley Bickley Consulting West Inc. Mountain View, CA http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"

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Metaphor Computer Systems

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> I happened to stumble over a posting that you made on the web about a > year ago talking about installing some "Metaphor" computers. I am a > former Metaphor engineer. Is he talking about a different Metaphor? Metaphor Computer was started by ex Xerox people (Dave Liddle) in Silicon Valley. > I have a slide show on my web site that they developed to > celebrate the death of the company. not obvious on the site.

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Vintage boxes sighted

by cclist＠sydex.com

Warning: This posting involves relatively common personal computers made after 1980, but before 1990. All are at Shopgoodwill.com A Panasonic JR-200U http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=3402062 A TRS-80 Model III http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=3391436 A couple of Cocos... http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=3404062 http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=3404088 A Compaq portable: http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=3404280 A Franklin Ace: http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=3404304 Sorry if I've pointed to anything commonplace and obvious. I'll try my best not to do it in the future. Cheers, Chuck

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Sun ND server?

by trasz＠FreeBSD.org

Is there an implementation of Sun nd(4) (Network Disk) server other than the one in NetBSD, by Matt Fredette? Long story: Few days ago I fried SCSI controller on Indigo 2, and I'm not gonna risk the same with my Sun 3/60. Few months ago I got SunOS 3.5 kernel to netboot using modified NetBSD ndbootd(8); it goes as far as mounting rootfs. Then, just after printing the following line... using 95 buffers containing 778240 bytes of main memory ... it just retries reading block number 16 over and over. I guess the ND protocol implementation is wrong somehow. The whole transaction goes like this; the only thing that changes is the "seq" field. RECV: minor 0x00 error 0 vers 0 seq 29 blk 16 bcount 8192 resbcount 0 curroff 0 currcount 0 op 0x01<READ > XMIT: minor 0x00 error 0 vers 0 seq 29 blk 16 bcount 8192 resbcount 0 curroff 0 currcount 1024 op 0x01<READ > XMIT: minor 0x00 error 0 vers 0 seq 29 blk 16 bcount 8192 resbcount 0 curroff 1024 currcount 1024 op 0x01<READ > XMIT: minor 0x00 error 0 vers 0 seq 29 blk 16 bcount 8192 resbcount 0 curroff 2048 currcount 1024 op 0x01<READ > XMIT: minor 0x00 error 0 vers 0 seq 29 blk 16 bcount 8192 resbcount 0 curroff 3072 currcount 1024 op 0x01<READ > XMIT: minor 0x00 error 0 vers 0 seq 29 blk 16 bcount 8192 resbcount 0 curroff 4096 currcount 1024 op 0x01<READ > XMIT: minor 0x00 error 0 vers 0 seq 29 blk 16 bcount 8192 resbcount 0 curroff 5120 currcount 1024 op 0x01<READ > XMIT: minor 0x00 error 0 vers 0 seq 29 blk 16 bcount 8192 resbcount 0 curroff 6144 currcount 1024 op 0x01<READ > XMIT: minor 0x00 error 0 vers 0 seq 29 blk 16 bcount 8192 resbcount 0 curroff 7168 currcount 1024 op 0x11<READ DONE > Any ideas? -- If you cut off my head, what would I say? Me and my head, or me and my body?

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Converting ASCII to Hex (was: 1st stage loader for IMSAI - need ascii to binary conversion)

by tsw-cc＠johana.com

Really this is pretty easy (this does NO error checking, and only accepts upper case characters): int hex (char ascii) { int value; value = ascii - '0'; if (value > 9) value += '0' - 'A' + 0x0A; return value; } Improvements are left as an exercise for the reader/student. -- Sorry, No signature at the moment. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

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Metaphor Computer Systems

by john＠johnweeks.com

Curt, I happened to stumble over a posting that you made on the web about a year ago talking about installing some "Metaphor" computers. I am a former Metaphor engineer. I have a slide show on my web site that they developed to celebrate the death of the company. The software is still around, now called "Meta5". I don't want to invest too much in a note that I don't know will ever be delivered, but if it does make it to you, let me know, and I can fill you in. -john- ============================================================ John A. Weeks III 612-720-2854 john at johnweeks.com Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ============================================================

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Apple Computer

by alaskacc＠yahoo.com

Hello Rob, I am interested to know if you still have any of your Apple computers. Thank you. Clay Cummins alaskacc at yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

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Video: Meet the ultimate computer-UNIVAC!

by gmanuel＠gmconsulting.net

Pretty cool video about the UNIVAC. Thought this may be of interest here. http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/geekend/?p=1178 Greg

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eBay Monkey Business

by mardy＠voysys.com

I could be wrong, but there's something fishy going on over at eBay. First an IMSAI and an Altair 680 being bid up to astronomical prices and now a less than stellar SOL-20 goes for $7100.00 to someone who's last couple of purchases were cell phones. This all this activity is in fact some type of a scam, it is going to seriously hurt legitimate buyers and sellers. -Mardy

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E-Mail-Adress

by Soenke.Backhaus＠FH-Augsburg.DE

To Whom It May Concern I'd like to know the E-Mail-Adress from Bob Maxwell. He wrote an article in your forum about HP64000-floppys in the year 2004. I need more Information about these floppys. I have the same problem. I want to get the information out of 5.1/4"-hp64000-floppys. I'd like to store the files at a windows95 or windowsXP-computer(or maybe dos). Can you please help me? With best regards S?nke Backhaus (from Germany)

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Border US to CA (Was:Ebay: pdp 11/34 + lots of stuff)

by devonstopps＠gmail.com

I remember the discussion about bringing classic computers across the border from Canada to the USA, but, has anyone got any experiences going the other way? Any issues since many of these systems are USA country of origin? Especially with big iron, where you'd have a trailer or big truck... Devon ---------------------------Original Message----------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:06:08 -0700 From: Richard <legalize at xmission.com> Subject: Fwd: [alt.sys.pdp11] Ebay: pdp 11/34 + lots of stuff This message has been forwarded from Usenet. To reply to the original author, use the email address from the forwarded message. Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:38:28 +0100 (CET) Groups: alt.sys.pdp11 From: Jeff Davis <jdaviscl2 at soupwizard.com> Org: Aioe.org NNTP Server Subject: Ebay: pdp 11/34 + lots of stuff Id: <Xns9A4BE64E9F5D4jdaviscl2soupwizardc at 194.177.96.78> ======== Just fyi, it's not my auction, but there's a pdp-11/34 in two racks, a tape drive and large hard drives on ebay. Two days left, I figure somebody with a big truck wants to save it. I normally wouldn't post about an ebay auction, but this one doesn't mention pdp-11 in the auction title and seems to have been overlooked. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120223434668 jdavis

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EBAY Alternatives, was Re: eBay Monkey Business

by marvin＠west.net

I stopped selling on ebay before the January 29th announcment and am totally disgusted with what passes for management. (major rant deleted) Search youtube for ebay boycott or ebay strike and there are a number of "editorials" there as well. I suggested to Sellam that NOW would be a good time to get the Vintage Computer Marketplace back online, but it hasn't happened yet. Since I haven't kept track, are there other classic computer related places to buy and sell? A "yes" answer should be followed by the sites URL :). > In case you all had not noticed, there was a major change at Ebay this > week. Google for details. > > Also, there is a good sized strike amongst sellers this week as well. > Some decided just not to sell. Some decided to shut down their stores. > And some have decided to play games, just to play games with Ebay's > bean counters. > > The best thing to do this week, and most of next, is to just NOT USE > Ebay for EITHER buying OR selling. > > -- > Will

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VAXstation/MicroVAX 2000 CPU/FPU overheating?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: VAXstation/MicroVAX 2000 CPU/FPU overheating? > From: "Dave Dunfield" <dave06a at dunfield.com> > Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:50:56 -0500 > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > >Hi Guys, > >I've just acquired a VAXstation 2000 (thanks Mouse!) which exhibits what appears >to be an overheating issue. > >Powered up ir runs for about 10 mins or so (just sitting at the console prompt >doing things like TEST 50 to display the configuration, pressing ENTER to get >another '>>>' etc.). After about 10 mins (give or take) it fails, sometimes >appears to reset, hangs etc. > >Firt thing I noticed is that the two surface mount chips with the round heatsinks >affixed to them get *HOT* ... Hot enough that you wounldn't want to keep your finger >on either of them for very long. > >I believe these are the CPU and FPU chip? - Is this normal for them to run this >hot? They don't heat up alarmingly quickly, but after a few minutes they are >hotter than I'd think normal. Yes, CPU and FPU. They do get hot. Makes sure then fan is running and there is airflow. >Aside from the eventual failure, it seems to run correctly - the self tests >(including the FPU test) pass (except for those which don't have hardware installed, >loopback connectors etc. > >When I got the system, it was jam packed with cards, including the main board, >color frame buffer, double-sided memory expansion and an ethernet interface. A maxed out machime. >During my testing, I've removed all of these except for the main board, and am >running the system as a MicroVAX. I do have the resistor/loading card installed >as is recommended when running the system lightly loaded. > >Power rails all look good - There is a 9V supply which the technial manual >describes as "for loading" which has a separate supply and return. Relative >to ground I measure about +5.6v on the supply and about -3.3 on the return, >which I'm assuming is normal (?) Makes sure the 5V line(s) is good and really at 5V. >Anyone know where I can obtain anything resembling a schematic? Other technical >information (I have a PDF of the technical manual, however it's mostly "system >information" from an operational point of view). Any known issues etc.? One of the signals from the PS is power good. Makes sure that line isn't bouncing. I think it's an orange or white lead it's been a while since Ive been in one. Allison >Regards, >Dave > > >-- >dave06a (at) Dave Dunfield >dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com >com Collector of vintage computing equipment: > http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/index.html

18 years, 6 months

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HP2100 MSU BASIC

by Tim＠Rikers.org

I've gotten back to trying to get MSU BASIC running. My current edited sources are here: http://rikers.org/hp2100/22255.asm http://rikers.org/hp2100/22255mon.asm Here's a transcript: sim> g 30000 CLOCK I/O ADDRESS? 10 LOG TTY I/O ADDRESS? 12 NUMBER OF CHANNELS? 1 CHANNEL 1 TTY I/O ADDRESS? 11 CARD READER IN SYSTEM? YES OR NO: NO PHOTO READER IN SYSTEM? YES OR NO: YES PHOTOREADER I/O ADDRESS? 14 ENTER CODE-WORD TABLE ACCOUNT NUMBER? 0 CODE WORD? ROOT ACCOUNT NUMBER? /E ENTER INFORMATION TABLE 0 /E DECIMAL FREE CORE AVAILABLE: 8828 STANDARD FREE CORE IS DECIMAL 8828 ACCEPT STANDARD CORE? YES OR NO: YES PUNCH ABSOLUTE TAPE? YES OR NO: YES SYSTEM PUNCH DEVICE I/O ADDRESS? 13 HALT instruction 102077, P: 23420 (LIA 1) I have no idea what to enter in the "INFORMATION TABLE" so not sure that's right. Also not sure if my account information is valid. Running yields: sim> g 100 YEAR? 78 MONTH? 12 DAY? 12 TIME? 1212 YEAR? with then loops forever. Seems to be valid date info, but not sure why it's kicking me back into the loop. Anyone have docs on this? -- Tim Riker - http://Rikers.org/ - TimR at Debian.org Embedded Linux Technologist - http://eLinux.org/ BZFlag maintainer - http://BZFlag.org/ - for fun!

18 years, 6 months

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Vintage boxes sighted

by zmerch-cctalk＠30below.com

Rumor has it that Chuck Guzis may have mentioned these words: >On 24 Feb 2008 at 7:57, Jason T wrote: > > > I think these are all worthy of note. Interesting, too, that most of > > them are from the Toledo store. Maybe a collector dumped his extras? > >What caught my eye was the Panasonic box. If I were a collector, it >might be very appealing as a not-very-common home computer. My thoughts exactly. [[ Yes, I'm still alive... but unforch been incommunicado for a while... ]] Laterz, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger | "Profile, don't speculate." SysAdmin, Iceberg Computers | Daniel J. Bernstein zmerch at 30below.com |

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OFFERED: Assorted manuals

by jason＠havnet.com

Hi Peter, I would be interested in these for the Computing History museum in Suffolk. See: www.computinghistory.org.uk The trouble id you're a bit far away. I might have someone in your area that I can ask, but otherwise would you be able to stick them in a box and in the post? I'll obviously pay the postage. Cheers Jason Fitzpatrick www.ComputingHistory.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: peter.hicks at poggs.co.uk Sent: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:15:09 +0000 To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: OFFERED: Assorted manuals Hello Tidying up here, I have the following up for grabs. You'll need to be able to collect in London or St Albans, UK: * ICL DRS 8801 User Guide and Ready Reference * Apple ][ Users Guide (ISBN 0-931988-46-2) * Silentype Operation/Reference Manual (for Apple ][) * Apple ][ BASIC Programming Manual * The Applesoft Tutorial * Meet The Micro book (ISBN 0-900608-18-8) * Mastering Visicalc (ISBN 0-89588-090-3) * Amstrad Microsoft Windows 2.03 User Guide (book) * Microcomputer Graphics book (ISBN 0-201-05092-7) * Commodore 64 User Manual * Microsoft Word for Windows 2.0 manual Anyone interested? Peter -- Peter Hicks | e: my.name at poggs.co.uk | g: 0xE7C839F4 | w: www.poggs.com A: Because it destroys the flow of the conversation Q: Why is top-posting bad?

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OFFERED: Assorted manuals

by peter.hicks＠poggs.co.uk

Hello Tidying up here, I have the following up for grabs. You'll need to be able to collect in London or St Albans, UK: * ICL DRS 8801 User Guide and Ready Reference * Apple ][ Users Guide (ISBN 0-931988-46-2) * Silentype Operation/Reference Manual (for Apple ][) * Apple ][ BASIC Programming Manual * The Applesoft Tutorial * Meet The Micro book (ISBN 0-900608-18-8) * Mastering Visicalc (ISBN 0-89588-090-3) * Amstrad Microsoft Windows 2.03 User Guide (book) * Microcomputer Graphics book (ISBN 0-201-05092-7) * Commodore 64 User Manual * Microsoft Word for Windows 2.0 manual Anyone interested? Peter -- Peter Hicks | e: my.name at poggs.co.uk | g: 0xE7C839F4 | w: www.poggs.com A: Because it destroys the flow of the conversation Q: Why is top-posting bad?

18 years, 6 months

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Burroughs B80 rescued

by joreilly＠pacbell.net

Ian, Do you have the disk controller board for the B80? I developed it back in 1973. If you do could you email me a jpg of it? It has a certain nostalgia value. It is also the first ASIC disk controller in the industry, and I'd like to at least get the photo into the Computer Museum in Sunnyvale. If there is any thing I can help you with on the machine, just let me know. I also ran the team that developed the floppy disk drive on the unit. Jim O'Reilly

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a bad day for vaxen

by tiggerlasv＠aim.com

Are these BA23-based? If so, don't forget that the DB9 pinout isn't standard ! Traditional DB9 cabling won't work ! T ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AIM(R) Mail ! - http://webmail.aim.com

18 years, 6 months

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Q-bus SCSI Controllers RFI

by mjd.bishop＠emeritus-solutions.com

Q-bus (BA 23, BA123 & (with mods to the mounting hardware) BA213) SCSI controllers. What works (in particular with disks + MSCP + VMS), how well and what's still about ? What I know is: CMD CDQ-220/TM supports disks and tapes, and works with RZ2x disks / MSCP / VMS DEC KZQSA-AA (aka M5976-AA) is the BA23 Q-bus SCSI controller CMD CDQ-223/TM is a 220 with EMC shielding for a BA213 box What I'm curious to know is: - What boards were made and which are commonly available e.g. DEC KZQSA, CMD CDQ-220, Dilog SQ706 ?, Emulex UC02 ?, Andromeda SCDC-11 ?, ... - The relative (to SCSI 1) performance of each of the boards - Which boards are "dogs" : gotchas, tape only, unreliability / electronics failures And, some specific queries are: - What is the difference between a CDQ-220/xxx and a CDQ-220A/xxx ? - What is the functionality of a CDQ-243 (quad board, BA213 cab kit, 2 SCSI connectors) wrt a CDQ-220 / 223 ? Regards Martin

18 years, 6 months

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Craigslist - Digital PDP-1123 - Lincoln, NE

by RodSmallwood＠mail.ediconsulting.co.uk

After 15 years more a restorers item. See it run before you buy it!! -----Original Message----- From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of steven stengel Sent: 24 February 2008 09:10 To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Craigslist - Digital PDP-1123 - Lincoln, NE http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/sys/580456982.html ------------------------------------------------ Digital PDP-1123 (vintage) Reply to: sale-580456982 at craigslist.org Date: 2008-02-20, 8:25AM PST Digital (for you kids, that's a brand) PDP-1123 CPU, four Digital RL-02 drives and disks. Rack mounted. Taken out of service 15 or so years ago, worked at the time. This is a collectors item. Location: Lincoln, NE --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

18 years, 6 months

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a bad day for vaxen

by RodSmallwood＠mail.ediconsulting.co.uk

If you were in the UK I could tell you where to order MMJ cables (Black Box still sell them and are not expensive) -----Original Message----- From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Richard Sent: 23 February 2008 17:28 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: a bad day for vaxen In article <BAY104-W32B90EC12E3817FBAD51BBC91E0 at phx.gbl>, Dan Gahlinger <dgahling at hotmail.com> writes: > that doesnt help if my cables are bad :P Have you tested your cables? Hook an ohmmeter to each end and measure the connectivity of the wires. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

18 years, 6 months

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Craigslist - Digital PDP-1123 - Lincoln, NE

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/sys/580456982.html ------------------------------------------------ Digital PDP-1123 (vintage) Reply to: sale-580456982 at craigslist.org Date: 2008-02-20, 8:25AM PST Digital (for you kids, that's a brand) PDP-1123 CPU, four Digital RL-02 drives and disks. Rack mounted. Taken out of service 15 or so years ago, worked at the time. This is a collectors item. Location: Lincoln, NE --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

18 years, 6 months

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Fwd: [alt.sys.pdp11] eBay: PDP11 cards, RK06 stuff, core memory

by legalize＠xmission.com

This message has been forwarded from Usenet. To reply to the original author, use the email address from the forwarded message. Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:55:56 +0000 Groups: alt.sys.pdp11 From: info2008 at parse.com (Robert Krten) Org: UseNetServer.com Subject: eBay: PDP11 cards, RK06 stuff, core memory Id: <d3c03$47c025ec$4c0aad39$15163 at TEKSAVVY.COM> ======== Continuing with the cleanup, I have the following items up on eBay: Item # Description 130200228627 PDP-11 boards M105, M234, M7228, M7800YA, M7810, M782, M7821, M7850, M7856(3), M7859, M7860(3), M7941, M7944, M8047, M8186, M8192, M9301YF, M9401, M971 (Total 23) 130200218825 H214 8k x 16 core memory 130200220702 H222/G652 (MM11DP) 16k x 18 core memory 130200217482 RK06 Operator Control Panel (2) 130200271249 RK06 Boards (Total 14) 130200277362 PDP-11 Third Party boards (Total 24) 130200500053 PDP-11 AAV11K 4 Channel 12-bit DAC More next week as I continue the cleanup. Cheers, -RK -- Robert Krten, PDP-8 collector looking for PDP-8 and PDP-8/S minicomputers; check out their "good home" at www.pdp12.org

18 years, 6 months

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Rescue: Burroughs Redactor Editing Typewriter

by jfoust＠threedee.com

Respond to the person below. - John >From: "Neil Preston" <nrpreston at yahoo.com> >To: <jfoust at threedee.com> >Subject: Editing Typewriter >Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:40:24 -0600 > > >Are you interested in any further acquisitions for your computer collection? > >I have an old Burroughs Redactor Editing Typewriter (word processing system) consisting of a wide-carriage Selectric typewriter interfaced to a processor cabinet having two data cassette drives. The user would type their document while it was being recorded on the tape drive, and could later reprint it from the tape drive. There was no CRT. I also have a field maintenance manual and some additional information including a copy of a user reference guide, as well as a few data cassettes and ribbons. > >As I have no current use for it, I would be happy to donate it to a suitable organization as long as the receiver is willing to cover the costs of shipping. It would probably require crating and truck freight, as the cabinet measures approximately 17" x 17" x 32". > >I also have a couple of old Beehive model B103 data entry terminals (CRT with keyboard and RS-232 or current loop interface). > >If you have no interest, please consider forwarding the information to anyone you believe might be interested. If I can't find a home for them, they will be scrapped. > >I am located near Kansas City MO. You may contact me by phone at (816) 537-7242 > >Neil Preston, CET >Preston Electronics LLC >13413 Smart Road >Lee's Summit MO 64086 >(816) 537-7242 ><http://www.prestonelectronics.com/>http://www.PrestonElectronics.com > > > > >

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a bad day for vaxen

by RodSmallwood＠mail.ediconsulting.co.uk

The port is an DEC MMJ connector (offset clip type). Set your terminal to DEC-RS423 and 9600 both ways and it will run. Rod -----Original Message----- From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Dan Gahlinger Sent: 23 February 2008 02:13 To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: a bad day for vaxen well I've had a real bad day. My vax systems have been in storage for about a year, good storage, not too much heat or cold or humidity but, I can't get any of them to function the way I think they should. 4 vaxen (vaxstation 3100 m76, of which 2 are spx), an alpha (dec 3000 model 310), and a vxt2000. I must be doing something wrong.I'm having a very bad day. and my vs 3100 model 30 seems to have vanished :( i tried with a null modem cable and with straight through, with 3 different dec connect cables, and 3 different (1 9pin, 1 25pin female, 1 25pin male) connectors, and can't get anything on console. with switch S3 up or down made no difference. and i'm not sure I'm reading the LED status lights correctly. i'm tired. :) I'm digging out a monitor so I can connect the video directly, with a keyboard and mouse, but that's always fun. anyone in or around toronto with a working setup I could pop by one day and hook up and see what's going on? I'll double-check that after I try the video. none of the docs I've found specify if it's supposed to be null-modem or straight through. and I think I got it right by using the port with the little printer symbol on it as console. the alpha I have has 25 pin female, and the vxt has 25 pin male, and the vaxstations have what seems to be RJ12, can't they make these things standard? _________________________________________________________________

18 years, 6 months

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RFC: Floppy reader/writer project

by dm561＠torfree.net

----------Original Message: Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:10:17 -0800 From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> Subject: Re: RFC: Floppy reader/writer project (recovering UniPlus Unix for the Lisa) In my humble opinion, what's really needed is a quick and reliable non-contact method of recovering floppy data. Perhaps one of the more modern head technologies, such as GMR might be suitable for a head that doesn't contact the media. Or maybe we need to revive the "magnasee and laser" method. Increasingly, I'm seeing 5.25" diskettes with media flaking. There's no way that I'm going to stick one of those into a standard floppy drive, even after baking. It might be that we're starting to approach the "use by" date with some brands and need to resort to other approaches. Cheers, Chuck ---------Reply: Just a thought, for a one-or-two-off: Is there anything with which you could coat the disk surface to protect it that would be cohesive enough to hold down any flakes? Spray-on Urethane? Saran Wrap? Research is needed... ;-) mike

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VAX wish list.

by RodSmallwood＠mail.ediconsulting.co.uk

Well I want it for a CD Rom Drive. Don't confuse 'Unsupported' with 'It doesn't work' hard disks may well run. Certainly RZ series are recognized. Rod -----Original Message----- From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Sridhar Ayengar Sent: 22 February 2008 15:18 To: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: VAX wish list. Rod Smallwood wrote: > 5. A KZQSA SCSI controller. If you don't mind my asking, what do you want with that controller? AFAIK, it can't talk to disk, only tape. Peace... Sridhar

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VAX wish list.

by RodSmallwood＠mail.ediconsulting.co.uk

All of the BA440 based 4000 models 200/300/400/500/600 will boot from an RRD series drive on a KZQSA. I have a 42 and a 46 and both work. -----Original Message----- From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Glen Slick Sent: 22 February 2008 20:24 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: VAX wish list. On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Patrick Finnegan <pat at computer-refuge.org> wrote: > > The KZQSA was the controller that generally was used to attach a SCSI > CDROM to a later model QBUS MicroVAX or VAX 4000. I seem to remember > posts on here indicating that you could also use it for a single SCSI > disk, and it mostly worked, as long as it didn't have >1 device on it. > Yes, it's useful to have a KZQSA if you want to boot from a SCSI CD-ROM and install VMS. I believe a KA655 (3800 / 3900) won't boot from a KZQSA, but a KA660 (4000/200) will.

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VAX wish list.

by RodSmallwood＠mail.ediconsulting.co.uk

Well yes, its for the CD ROM holding the VMS distribution. However it does at least recognize a DEC RZ series disk. I worked for DEC for a long time and 'unsupported' means field service did not have funding for what could be non-Dec (SCSI) devices on the controller because DSSI was DEC's own SCSI variant. It does not mean 'this does not work' In fact DEC engineers routinely evaluated third party SCSI drives on it. Rod -----Original Message----- From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Finnegan Sent: 22 February 2008 15:43 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: VAX wish list. On Friday 22 February 2008 10:18, Sridhar Ayengar wrote: > Rod Smallwood wrote: > > 5. A KZQSA SCSI controller. > > If you don't mind my asking, what do you want with that controller? > AFAIK, it can't talk to disk, only tape. Huh? The KZQSA was the controller that generally was used to attach a SCSI CDROM to a later model QBUS MicroVAX or VAX 4000. I seem to remember posts on here indicating that you could also use it for a single SCSI disk, and it mostly worked, as long as it didn't have >1 device on it. Other than that, IIRC, it's VMS-only. Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCAC --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/ The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org

18 years, 6 months

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Siemens/Nixdorf computer -- need hardware info!

by rob＠mooseitsolutions.com

Hello, Do you have any DAP4 or BA80 that I can buy? Thank you Robert Musumeci Moose IT Solutions Pty Limited M: 0417 453 856 T: 02 9712 3856 F: 02 9712 0856 E: rob at mooseitsolutions.com Your partner in IT, Keeping you turned on

18 years, 6 months

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MS Visual C++ docs available

by feldman.r＠comcast.net

I have the software (1.52c on 1 CD). Free for postage. Preference given to the person who got the docs from Jack (if anyone did). Otherwise available. Contact me at my Comcast address. Bob Message: 8 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:45:47 -0600 From: "Jack Rubin" <jack.rubin at ameritech.net> Subject: MS Visual C++ docs available To: "Classic Computer List" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Three volume set of docs for MS Visual C++ v1.52 available for the cost of postage - relatively cheap via Media Mail, but the 3 vols total close to 11 lbs. Includes $15 rebate coupon with expiration date of 12/31/96 - proof that this "on-topic". No software included! Contact me directly if you're interested. Jack

18 years, 6 months

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a bad day for vaxen

by dgahling＠hotmail.com

well I've had a real bad day. My vax systems have been in storage for about a year, good storage, not too much heat or cold or humidity but, I can't get any of them to function the way I think they should. 4 vaxen (vaxstation 3100 m76, of which 2 are spx), an alpha (dec 3000 model 310), and a vxt2000. I must be doing something wrong.I'm having a very bad day. and my vs 3100 model 30 seems to have vanished :( i tried with a null modem cable and with straight through, with 3 different dec connect cables, and 3 different (1 9pin, 1 25pin female, 1 25pin male) connectors, and can't get anything on console. with switch S3 up or down made no difference. and i'm not sure I'm reading the LED status lights correctly. i'm tired. :) I'm digging out a monitor so I can connect the video directly, with a keyboard and mouse, but that's always fun. anyone in or around toronto with a working setup I could pop by one day and hook up and see what's going on? I'll double-check that after I try the video. none of the docs I've found specify if it's supposed to be null-modem or straight through. and I think I got it right by using the port with the little printer symbol on it as console. the alpha I have has 25 pin female, and the vxt has 25 pin male, and the vaxstations have what seems to be RJ12, can't they make these things standard? _________________________________________________________________

18 years, 6 months

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RFC: Floppy reader/writer project (recovering UniPlus Unix for the Lisa)

by cclist＠sydex.com

In my humble opinion, what's really needed is a quick and reliable non-contact method of recovering floppy data. Perhaps one of the more modern head technologies, such as GMR might be suitable for a head that doesn't contact the media. Or maybe we need to revive the "magnasee and laser" method. Increasingly, I'm seeing 5.25" diskettes with media flaking. There's no way that I'm going to stick one of those into a standard floppy drive, even after baking. It might be that we're starting to approach the "use by" date with some brands and need to resort to other approaches. Cheers, Chuck

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Disk controllers- RLL MFM IDE- ISA and PCI

by tpeters＠mixcom.com

Anyone need disk controllers for ISA bus and MFM or RLL drives? I stumbled on these (I'm not connected with this vendor) and thought of you guys immediately. Most of this stuff is $5 or $10. AT style full length MFM disk controller $14.95 http://www.alltronics.com/cgi-bin/item/92C071/14/AT%2DMFM%2DController DTC - 5160 8-bit ISA bus RLL disk controller $4.95 (five dolla, five dolla!) http://www.alltronics.com/cgi-bin/item/97C014/14/DTC%2D5160 DTC - 5280 - 97C045 MFM 16-bit ISA disk controller http://www.alltronics.com/cgi-bin/item/97C045/14/DTC%2D5280 DTC - 7287 - 97C015 RLL 16-bit ISA disk controller $4.95 http://www.alltronics.com/cgi-bin/item/97C015/14/DTC%2D7287 Dual high-speed AT 16550 serial card $27.95 http://www.alltronics.com/cgi-bin/item/98C011/14/High%2DSpeed%2DI%2DO%2DCon… IDE ISA Hard/Floppy I/O - Controller $1.95 no data http://www.alltronics.com/cgi-bin/item/97C009/14/IDE%2DISA%2DHard%2DFloppy%… PC ISA - Serial/Parallel PCB - 24C002 $4.95 http://www.alltronics.com/cgi-bin/item/24C002/14/PC%2DISA%2DSerial%2DParall… VLB I/O IDE - Controller - 98C016 $9.95 http://www.alltronics.com/cgi-bin/item/98C016/14/VLB%2DI%2DO%2DIDE%2DContro… PCI IDE Only - Controller $9.95 no data http://www.alltronics.com/cgi-bin/item/98C034/14/PCI%2DIDE%2DOnly%2DControl… TEAC Tape Transport - Cleaning Kit - 92Z008 $2.99 no data http://www.alltronics.com/cgi-bin/item/92Z008/14/Tape%2DTransport%2DCleanin… TTL to Composite - Video Adapter $4.95 Requires +12V (or +5V) and video, vertical drive, horizontal drive signals. Produces RS-170 type composite video output. Fully assembled with 74125 sync regenerator, 3 terminal regulator, 2N2222 transistor. Only 2" square. http://www.alltronics.com/cgi-bin/item/92C024/14/TTL%2Dto%2DComposite%2DVid… Also: 3.5" diskette drives, 5.25" diskette drives, assorted old motherboards, drive mounting rails, etc. ----- 842. If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop diggin'. --... ...-- -.. . -. ----. --.- --.- -... tpeters at nospam.mixcom.com (remove "nospam") N9QQB (amateur radio) "HEY YOU" (loud shouting) WEB: http://www.mixweb.com/tpeters 43? 7' 17.2" N by 88? 6' 28.9" W, Elevation 815', Grid Square EN53wc WAN/LAN/Telcom Analyst, Tech Writer, MCP, CCNA, Registered Linux User 385531

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VAX wish list.

by RodSmallwood＠mail.ediconsulting.co.uk

Hi I have nearly all I need to do a Vax cluster. Namely a VAX 4000 model 200 , a 300 and a 500. I'm a few bits short for the 300.: 1. The Console Bulkhead Assembly. (70-27400-01) Its like a door to the Processor / Memory mounting area. 2. The top part of the two part front door on the BA440 3 One or more RF series drives and the Bezel Assembly (70-27049-02) 4. Filler strips to go over empty Qbus slots. 5. A KZQSA SCSI controller. I can get this stuff from theUS but the price is a rip-off and the shipping horrendous. If anybody has or knows where to get any of these items in the UK or Europe I would be pleased to hear from them. Rod Smallwood The DECcollector

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Sockets (was: Ebay grrrr #743)

by dm561＠torfree.net

Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:26:35 -0500 (EST) From: der Mouse <mouse at Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA> Subject: Re: Sockets (was: Ebay grrrr #743) >> I've been told that gold-plated sockets are a waste of money if what >> you're going to be socketing is tinned-lead packages. Something >> about gold-to-gold and tin-to-tin makes for the best results. >Well, it reduces corrosion. ><snip> >I'd say gold/gold is probably best, since it's the most >corrosion-resistant in both these senses. But whether I'd prefer >gold/tin or tin/tin depends on the tradeoffs. >der Mouse ---------- We've had this thread before, but don't forget about stuff like Stabilant 22. I had endless problems with sockets in AIM65s (similar to the cheap sockets in a PET) installed in a plant full of oil and other contaminants in the air; finally pulled them all out, cleaned and treated the sockets & chips with Stab 22, and no more problems. Also did my PETs at that time and never had a problem with IC sockets in them either; still running fine today. mike

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flying reading of floppy media

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> A thick rigid base and a very thin, > hard cap, with the media immobile between them. The whole assembly > would turn in the reader. I don't know whether the media could actually > be read through that It was possible to do this. Univac metal tape reels actually had a spool of mylar tape to isolate the metal tape from the heads, for example. There would be a lot of loss in the transducer, though, which you may be able to compensate for by using a magnetorestrictive instead of inductive head. I haven't pulled apart an Iomega bernolli drive to see if you could fly a 5" floppy over the plate and use the head in it for recovery.

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media reading and temperature

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> So I'm wondering if temperature has any affect on media readability. yes. You walk a very dangerous line with condensation reading cold media, though. It has been my experience that mag tapes shed more if they are warm, so after baking, I let them return to room temperature in the tape reading room, which is dehumidified to as low as the dehumidifier will go (< 35%)

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Fwd: [alt.sys.pdp11] Ebay: pdp 11/34 + lots of stuff

by legalize＠xmission.com

This message has been forwarded from Usenet. To reply to the original author, use the email address from the forwarded message. Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:38:28 +0100 (CET) Groups: alt.sys.pdp11 From: Jeff Davis <jdaviscl2 at soupwizard.com> Org: Aioe.org NNTP Server Subject: Ebay: pdp 11/34 + lots of stuff Id: <Xns9A4BE64E9F5D4jdaviscl2soupwizardc at 194.177.96.78> ======== Just fyi, it's not my auction, but there's a pdp-11/34 in two racks, a tape drive and large hard drives on ebay. Two days left, I figure somebody with a big truck wants to save it. I normally wouldn't post about an ebay auction, but this one doesn't mention pdp-11 in the auction title and seems to have been overlooked. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120223434668 jdavis

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RLV12 placement in H9278-A question

by tiggerlasv＠aim.com

On Feb-21-08 at 16:05:45, Jerome Fine wrote: > If my memory serves me correctly (which is not very > frequent these days), I seem to remember receiving > a BA23 box with an M8189 in the top slot and the > RLV11 in to next 2 slots. The memory for the system > (normal PDP-11 Qbus memory) was in slot 4. > As far as I know, there might be a delay factor > associated with placing the memory below the RLV11, > but it still functions correctly. It's entirely possible that it would work correctly. Covention has always been that PMI memory immediately precedes the CPU, and NON-PMI memory immediately follows the CPU. I've always just assumed that there was a reason for it, and never really questioned it, since I had no need to. I'm surprised anyone would bother with an RLV11 in a BA23, since the RLV12 was readily available at the time, and supports 22-bit. Much less space, power, and heat. Although sometimes you just have to work with what is at-hand. ;-) T ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AIM(R) Mail ! - http://webmail.aim.com

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System 36 SSP on 5.25" media?!

by ceby2＠csc.com

Periodically I thow this request out to see if there are new cctalkers watching. I have a long term goal of rebuilding both my 5363 and 5364 systems. But I've never managed to source a copy of the OS media. I've long had a copy of the media for 5360/5362, but that's not binary compatible and is distributed on 8" media anyway. So one more time... does anyone have System 36 SSP on 5.25" media I can beg, borrow, or buy? Can anyone help? Thanks, Colin Eby CSC Computer Sciences Limited Registered Office: Royal Pavilion, Wellesley Road, Aldershot, Hampshire, GU11 1PZ, UK Registered in England No: 0963578 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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RLV12 placement in H9278-A question

by tiggerlasv＠aim.com

On 21-Feb-08, at 17:28:32, John A. Dundas III wrote: > This is being used temporarily in a system with an M8189 (KDF11) and > M7551 (MSV11-Q, 4MB memory), so only one CD slot is currently > available. Just wondered whether I needed to reserve that slot or > not. Looks like not, so I'll use an appropriate Q/Q slot. If your're tight on open slots, the 3rd slot is a good spot for a quad board, since the CD slot is otherwise unuseable in your current configuration. T ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AIM(R) Mail ! - http://webmail.aim.com

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Hoeneywell-Bull DPS9000

by cclist＠sydex.com

I was going through some old code and discovered that I wrote a DOS driver to handle Honeywell-Bull DPS9000 GCOS floppies. I don't recall the exact circumstances, only that we equipped the customer with a Compaticard and a modified dual drive (5.25" and 3.5") box, although one isn't required for operation. Does anyone collect these old systems? Would you be interested in a copy of the code? Cheers, Chuck

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Quad cards in Q-bus

by bqt＠softjar.se

After seeing the discussion on placement of RLV12 in Q-bus, I got the impression that some people think that any quad card can be placed in both Q/Q and Q/CD slots without worry. That's incorrect. Some quad cards can be placed in either, but there are jumpers that needs to be set accordingly for the system to work. Just thought I'd point it out. It's not as easy as ABC. Oh, and Unibus is really simple as well, despite what people say. :-) Johnny (Who prefers Unibus) -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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RLV12 placement in H9278-A question

by dundas＠caltech.edu

Perhaps someone could clarify, the manuals are less than explicit on this. What kind of slot can the RLV12 be placed in? Does it need a Q22/Q22, Q22/CD, does it not matter, or are there jumpers to accommodate either? Before I fry something I'd like to make sure I've got this right. Thanks, John

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The "who lives where" map...

by jules.richardson99＠gmail.com

Way back, wasn't there talk of some kind of "rescue map" showing which classiccmpers lived where (roughly) and thus providing a clue as to who might be able to help* with rescues? * I'm thinking pickups, extra people-power, or just "get stuff a little nearer to me"... Maybe it's one of those Google Maps type applications, along with some contact info and the type of hauling ability (micro/mini/mainframe) potentially available? (I'm trying to work out the best way of getting a mini-sized system from the middle of CO to the middle of MN at the moment - or at least get it a little closer so I can borrow a friend's truck to go get it. Struck me that a "who is where" map would be handy! :-) cheers Jules

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Fwd: MINDSET buffs...

by lbickley＠bickleywest.com

Two additional points - based on questions I received regarding the MINDSET systems: 1. If you are not local, Weirdstuff will ship. If you win the lot, just tell the person who calls you that you want the lot shipped. 2. I said "Two brand new MINDSET systems" - I should have said they "look brand new". I have no idea if they are really brand new or are just in excellent condition... Lyle ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: MINDSET buffs... Date: Thursday 21 February 2008 12:20 From: Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org> I just checked this out at Weirdstuff - Two brand new MINDSET systems with what looks like every accessory ever made for the critter, including O/S, development software, documentation, the original boxes, etc. See: http://images.weirdstuff.com/full/Bay2.jpg Here's information on how to bid (sealed bid auction): 1. The auction closes on 2/25/2008 at 6PM. 2. The Minimum bid is $26 per lot. 3. Winning bidders will be notified on following day by 12:00 PM. 4. Material must be paid for and picked up the same week. 5. Pickup times are 9:30 AM to 6PM, Monday through Saturday. 11AM-5PM on Sunday. If you are not local to the S.F. Bay Area, shipping is available. 6. Lots are sold AS-IS. The Lot number for the MINDSETs is: #23 You can FAX your Bid to: 408-743-5655 NOTE: I am associated with Weirdstuff only as a client (someone who buys stuff from them). I am not a collector of MINDSET gear, but after seeing it in the bid sale, I felt that some folks on the list would probably find this an interesting lot. Cheers, Lyle -- Lyle Bickley Bickley Consulting West Inc. Mountain View, CA http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero" ------------------------------------------------------- -- Lyle Bickley Bickley Consulting West Inc. Mountain View, CA http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"

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RLV12 placement in H9278-A question

by tiggerlasv＠aim.com

As you've probably read in a previous reply, it doesn't really matter what type of slot it goes into, as long as you're not interrupting the path of a 2-board set. i.e., don't try to put it in between the boards of an RLV11. Now that I think about it, I guess it's a little moot, since you're in an 9278-A backplane, which only has 3 CD slots. The only way you could even use a 2-board CD-interconnect (such as the RLV11) is with a single-board CPU with on-board memory, such as an 11/53 or 11/93. Otherwise, your first two CD slots would already be full. ;-) One thing that has always made me a little paranoid about the RLV12 is the heatsink for the TO-5 transistor. It's very tall, and it sits VERY close to the boards above it. Be careful if you install the RLV12 underneath any dual boards. A little bit of warpage, and. . . T ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AIM(R) Mail ! - http://webmail.aim.com

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PDP-8 "Introduction to Programming"

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: PDP-8 "Introduction to Programming" > From: Alec McKenzie <alec at mckenzie.me.uk> > Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:16:59 +0000 > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org> > >Symmes, Dave wrote: >> I tripped across this email link on a Google search. >> I was the author of the original PDP-8 * "Introduction to >> Programming", published in either late 1968 or early 1969. I hired >> onto Digital straight out of college as a tech writer joining a >> department of four writers for the whole company. >> Almost 40 years later I am still with HP. > >Great to hear from you. >My copy of "Introduction to Programming" shows: > > First Printing, January 1969 > Second Printing, July 1969 > > Copyright ? 1968, 1969 > >I found it a most useful book, though I had been programming PDP-8's >since 1965, even before the first PDP-8's actually appeared. > >-- >Alec McKenzie >alec at mckenzie.me.uk I still have my copy and read it from time to time, the concepts are ageless and not married to any hardware. Allison

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Logic analyser EPROM's

by empiretheatre＠btconnect.com

Hi, What can I say... Thank you so much for sending the BIN files for the EPROM's, that was most kind of you. If you no longer have the 1631, then I take it that you do not need the grabbers. If you still require them, just send your address and I will post them off to you. I was given the HP1631D by a kind gentleman on the vintage radio forum. He had played around with it and re-written some of the EPROM's (bad move). I will program them up tonight and see what happens.... Thank you so much once again, if I can help you in any way in the future just let me know... Daniel.

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M88k MVME Lot for sale - any common interest

by mnusa2＠hotmail.com

Hi All, There is a big lot of Motorola 88000 boards for sale at eBay 300198415832. Unfortunatelly it is an USA only sale. Normally these go dirt cheap to resellers for spares with huge price tags (easily starting higher than 1k$). Is there anybody interested to share this deal and ship my part to Europe/Finland. I will pay pmy art and the shipping of course. I'm really interested in 4 processor modules, which seem quite rare (and I have none). BR, Matti _________________________________________________________________ Lataa 30 ILMAISTA hymi?t? Windows Live Messengeriisi! http://www.livemessenger-emoticons.com/fi-fi

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Fwd: [HersheyFreecycle] OFFER - older 24" Pen Plotter - Linglestown Area

by rtellason＠verizon.net

Dunno if anybody here would find this to be of interest, but maybe... This is a local freecycle list. I suppose pickup and maybe short-term storage (until it was shipped) would be possible, maybe. ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: [HersheyFreecycle] OFFER - older 24" Pen Plotter - Linglestown Area Date: Wednesday 20 February 2008 14:45 From: "tml615" <tml615 at yahoo.com> To: HersheyFreecycle at yahoogroups.com I have a Calcomp Pacesetter 24" pen plotter to offer. This is an older machine that plots on a large sheet using a pen. I received this from another FreeCycler. It works and comes with the manual, power cord, and one pen. It's a bit dusty and could use a good cleaning. Pens, drivers, and other parts are still available through online vendors. I have not been able to find a Windows XP driver for this plotter, but drivers for older versions of Windows (98 and older) are available on line. Pickup is near the intersection of Colonial & Linglestown Roads during normal business hours. _____________________________________________________ **** Proper Posting Format: **** OFFER [item name] [town name] PENDING [item name] TAKEN [item] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HersheyFreecycle/ ------------------------------------------------------- -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, ?a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. ?--Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin

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MS Visual C++ docs available

by jack.rubin＠ameritech.net

Three volume set of docs for MS Visual C++ v1.52 available for the cost of postage - relatively cheap via Media Mail, but the 3 vols total close to 11 lbs. Includes $15 rebate coupon with expiration date of 12/31/96 - proof that this "on-topic". No software included! Contact me directly if you're interested. Jack No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM

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Apple // europlus

by roger.holmes＠microspot.co.uk

Any reason nobody picked this one up? Are Apple that hot on copyright infringement 20+ years on? Hi Mark, What country are you in? I have the disks, and a couple of Apple ][ europlus-es, though they have not been powered on for some years. I'm in Kent, England. Roger Holmes. On 18 Feb, 2008, at 18:00, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:12:33 +0000 > From: "Mark Firestone" <pdp11_70 at retrobbs.org> > Subject: Apple // europlus > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Message-ID: > <e23c5a2f0802180212g71f1ab93ife7088befb21d02 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hey guys, > > Someone gave me an Apple // europlus. I don't have any system > disks for it > at all. If I send someone a 5 1/4 inch disk or disks, would this > kind soul > send me a DOS 3.3 system master disk? > > Now if I could get that together, and find a super serial card, I > could > transfer software of disk images to it. > > Take Care, > > Mark >

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With all the other crud going on on ebay. . .

by tiggerlasv＠aim.com

Don't forget that, after an auction closes, there is a small window of time where the auction isn't searchable. I've had this happen many times; I went to find an auction; realized it must have closed, and then tried to search it in completed items, but could not locate it. Going back to internet-exploiter "history", I was able to go directly to the auction that I was looking for. . . As for the IMSAI -- I noticed one a few days ago that was up in the $2000's . . . was that the one you were looking for? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220199733423 T ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AIM(R) Mail ! - http://webmail.aim.com

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With all the other crud going on on ebay...

by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

what's with the disappearing auctions? The last couple of IMSAI and altair auctions were "removed" almost immediately upon completion. Does anybody know what the final price on the altair 680 with the riser board and memory expansion was? What about the IMSAI that was over $5000 with over a day left? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM

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TU10 tape drive restoration

by djg＠pdp8.net

>I have not looked into it, but if the tacho is producing a slightly too >slow or fast signal, because of the not perfect diameter, would there >not be a trim point to adjust an amplifier that drives the reel motors? > Yes their is. Your supposed to use the special skew tape to set it but setting it with a written tape probably will get it close enough. >I measured 3 of mine and there all over place. > Thanks. .015 difference probably isn't that significant. I'll try 1.83. >>Vacuum switches >This is the biggest problem with the TU10. But we've repaired them >ourself. > How long does this last? I got 4 new switches so I'll try this for the other 4. I like saving money. >>Blower >It is noisy, just like an old vacuum cleaner. > I expected the vacuum noise when running. What I was referring to was more of a grinding/scraping noise when turned by hand. >Do you plan to keep some type of online log on your web site? > There are a lot of things I plan to do. Hopefully this weekend I will actually create a page for it. At minimum I will docuement what I repaired and how. This will be the most complex restoration I have had to do. I'll post when I have something up.

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Logic Analyzer pods Re: HP LA Inverse Assemblers for classic microprocessors

by empiretheatre＠btconnect.com

Hi Steve, I don't know if you are still after some of these, but I may be able to help. I am after a favour though myself... I have an HP1631D but it has an EPROM fault. I am looking for someone who can copy the 8 EPROM's from another 1631D and send me the files. I could in return send about 16 or so grabbers. Daniel.

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Bubble memory devices

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: Bubble memory devices > From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> > Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:44:53 -0800 > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > >A bit of curiosity on my part... > >If one wanted to replace a whole bubble memory card (i.e. complete >with support chips and decoders), would MRAM or FRAM be considered a >suitable substitute? It'd be one heckuva lot faster and drink less >power. Yes and no. yes you can use ram (or flash) as "disk" but the bubble system was addressed and generally run like a FDC with a command-status register and a data register. To have ram look like that you's need some controller and/or hardware. IT would also impact software that was designed to talk to it. Bubble was not RAM is was block accessable storage. >In the same vein, how about MRAM as a core memory substitute? Yes, it's been done. I had an 8E with a ram card, It stayed with the machine when I passed to to someone else. Also PDP-11s (early) could ahve ram or core and I ahve a 16k core stack for a Qbus LSI-11. Allison >Cheers, >Chuck > >

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The Apricot Xen

by ball.of.john＠gmail.com

Second to my Personal Iris 4D/20, the Apricot Xen has to be one of the most memorable systems I ever saw when I grew up. I can still vividly remember when my dad had them in his office and whenever I was there I would either bolt for the 4D/20 (They cared so much for the system that they let a five year-old play with it but on the other hand they did give it to me two years ago for nothing. :D) or the Xen that was right next to it. If memory recalls it had the trackball mouse as well as the 3 1/4" floppy drive and a hard drive and best of all it had that keyboard with the LCD panel and the programmable buttons. Sad to say they vanished all one day and since then (a little over ten years) I have been trying to find another Xen for myself. It seems it is not an easy task. Not only were Apricot systems not really liked here in North America but whenever I do manage to find a Xen it is ALWAYS missing either the keyboard or the mouse...or both and don't get me started with the monitor or the power supply. I can never seen to find one. Now that I own a logitech G15 keyboard and have it on my high-spec system I am now even more determined to find a Xen so I can mess around with its LCD panel. Does anyone have one with at least the keyboard and trackball mouse? Since words really can't describe this system, here's info on the system. http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=501&st=1 John.

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