After seeing the discussion on placement of RLV12 in Q-bus, I got the impression that some people think that any quad card can be placed in both Q/Q and Q/CD slots without worry. That's incorrect. Some quad cards can be placed in either, but there are jumpers that needs to be set accordingly for the system to work. Just thought I'd point it out. It's not as easy as ABC. Oh, and Unibus is really simple as well, despite what people say. :-) Johnny (Who prefers Unibus) -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol