PC-Mac SCSI data exchange question - test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org

29 Feb 2008

Ray Arachelian <ray at arachelian.com> wrote:
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  There are many ways to go, some twisty, some
straightforward: 
Whow, that's a lot of ways indeed! Thanks for the comprehensive writeup.

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  1 There was a commercial Samba client named
"Dave" for Mac OS.  If you 
 can find that, it will do the trick.  Indeed, w2k server will share out 
 AFS, but since you don't have that,  you'll need another path. 
I have heard of something similar called "Mocha SMB" which at least would have
been shareware, but have hitherto been unable to find it anywhere. This would perhaps be
my best bet.

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  2. If you're familiar with Unix (...) Not
yet, and probably not anytime soon.

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  (3.) If this is unavailable to you, you could also go
with a commercial 
 product such as: http://www.dataviz.com/products/maclinkplus/  -- there 
 are physical dangers here if you're not careful with the drive (static, 
 dropping drive on the floor, miswiring it, damage from a broken external 
 case, etc.) as well as soft dangers here (you might accidentally damage 
 the OS 8 hard drive by writing to it, so be sure you know which drive is 
 which and mount everything read only until you're 100% sure, etc.) 
The data is still backed up somewhere else and the OS 8 drive was a fresh install so
there's not much to worry about (and yes, I have installed and moved SCSI hard drives
in several sorts of machines and enclosures...) but I don't yet understand why I would
need a commercial product since OS 8 rather clearly states that it is able to use DOS
formatted media - but doesn't go out of its way to point out how (the help
"wizard" gets hung in a loop where it repeatedly asks me to select the volume I
want to format although it already is).

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  4. Other choices, get a machine that runs OS X,
perhaps a good old G4 
 with large hard drives, which will allow you to share both AFS and CIFS. 

 5. Find an old copy of Netware 4.x and build yourself a Netware file 
 server, these too work as a nice file server.  (sigh, brings back old 
 memories of my misspent youth :-) 
Two nice ideas for which I might actually even have the hardware (dunno if an iMac is
going to take OS X and my HP NetServer LH6000 would be a bitch to set up because it's
so huuuge), but both depending on additional commercial software.

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  6. Install NetATalk on a Linux machine and use it as a
server (I've not 
 played with this myself, so I've no idea what it does to resource forks) Linux,
see above.

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  7. Turn on an ftp daemon on one of the machines - you
could install 
 Cygwin on the w2k machine and run one of the ftpd's on there, or you can 
 find a windows ftp server (i.e. http://www.warftp.org/ )  that will work 
 on w2k workstation - if I remember right, there's a half crippled 
 version of IIS on there which acts as a personal web server - perhaps 
 like it's bigger brother it may have an ftpd.  Or if that's not 
 available, use a third machine that does have an ftpd (Linux, FreeBSD, 
 OpenVMS, etc.) as a go-between.  There are ftp clients for the Mac, and 
 it wouldn't surprise me if you could find an ftpd for OS 8 either ( 
 http://www.pure-mac.com/ftp.html ) The OS 8 install includes Netscape 3.something
which just might work as an FTP client, and WarFTP is free, so this is probably what
I'm going to try next.

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  8.  You could use an scp/ssh client such as
NiftyTelnet 
 http://www.lysator.liu.se/~jonasw/freeware/niftyssh/ - which might work 
 on OS 8 (I think it may want OS 9 though) to copy the data over scp to a 
 server that has an sshd (there is one for windows - 
 http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net/  ) Totally new stuff to me, too much to learn.

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  9. For 3GB of data, the worst thing you could do is go
over a serial 
 port with a terminal program such as ZTerm on one end and HyperTerminal 
 on the windows end.  It's horrible because at most you'll be able to go 
 at 56Kbps and will take forever. I had already contemplated that but will only use
it if all else fails.

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  10. You could go with one of the sneakernet paths:
some sort of 
 removable drive such as ZIP, Jazz, CD-R, etc. but you'll need to somehow 
 break up the data into pieces and use a common file system (ISO9660 and 
 its variants for the CD's, FAT16 for the windoze friendly ones, etc.) This is
what I was already trying with that hard disk, but couldn't find a format which both
machines could use.

Resource Forks are of no concern since the stuff was all generated and used under Windows
until now.
-- 
Arno Kletzander
Student Assistant // Studentische Hilfskraft 
Informatik Sammlung Erlangen
www.iser.uni-erlangen.de

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