- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by guykd＠optusnet.com.au

Be glad you don't have to deal with this kind of thing: http://everist.org/pics/misc/20200719_6831_wet_tapes.jpg A bunch of PDP 8 system tapes. That were literally soaking in liquid water when recovered. Yes, that is mildew. They are nearly dried out now. Still to be determined if they can be manually teased apart intact enough to be read. After deciphering what they all are, from remnants of the labels and a paper list that was with them. Hopefully these are already online somewhere. If not, then a lot of work to recover. The DEC mag tapes... sigh. Still not even thinking about them. Just slow drying. Guy

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OS-9/68k Control Coprocessor module

by chd＠chdickman.com

I came across an Allen-Bradley 1771-DMC4 Control Coprocessor. If you are familiar with AB PLC's, it is a 1771-IO chassis module that could be a "sidecar" for a PLC5 PLC or a standalone module. It runs some version of OS-9/68k on a 68340 processor. It has 4MB static ram and a 10MB ethernet AUI connector. I hooked up a terminal and can get to an OS-9 prompt. It has by default a 64k RAM disk that is empty. The best I can gather is that there was an external IDE (AB 1771-PCB PCbridge) that was used to create programs that were loaded onto the RAM disk. Once configured it would run standalone. Microware is still around in some form so OS-9 is not completely dead and I did find some references to a Microware product called PBbridge. It would be interesting to experiment with. I am curious if anyone has any experience with this hardware, with the IDE or OS-9/68k in general. I've never seen much discussion of OS-9/68k on classicmp.

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paper tape archiving

by billdegnan＠gmail.com

Hi all. I was wondering if there are any good online resources on reading for the purpose of archiving 8-bit papertapes of unknown origin. I have been reading tapes as text and also as binary, 8/n/1 thinking that's going to capture everything. I load into a hex editor, and if necessary convert to octal. I am wondering if there any persons who have a systematic process they'd like to share for this kind of work. I will share the tapes I have with the community, but there is no point if I am not doing it right. Thanks Bill

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ALTOS 886 manual.

by plamenspam＠afterpeople.com

Hi, Does anyone have an Altos 886 manual?

5 years, 4 months

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DEC Alpha server cabinet - free

by rsmilward＠frontier.com

My neighbor has an empty DEC Alpha server cabinet she'd be happy to give up, for free. It's a 2100 series, model 5/250. She's in Durham, NC. Anybody interested? Richard

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cctalk Digest, Vol 70, Issue 28

by athornton＠gmail.com

Once you've put your soul at ease regarding use of pakgen, and found a copy, and built it (it is a C program), you might find the following repository streamlines the process of application. https://github.com/athornton/yarr

5 years, 4 months

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Comp.lang.forth: banned on google groups?

by dfnr2＠yahoo.com

I was looking for an old post on comp.lang.forth, and was surprised to discover that the group doesn't appear to be hosted on google groups any more.? Searching the group pulls up a "banned group" message, and selecting the "continue to the group" button shows 0 messages in the group.? This appears to be due to spam showing up in the unmoderated group. Google bought Dejanews years ago, and, as I understand, was the defacto main usenet repository.? Is is all really gone, or just temporarily hidden?? How long ago did this happen?? Is the full comp.lang.forth archive available anywhere? ? I wonder if it's time to set up some NNTP mirrors and gather as much historical usenet content as possible.? Much of the overall content is garbage, but there's some priceless stuff in there, and even more that will become interesting in light of future developments. Dave

5 years, 4 months

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Morrow MD3 terminal emulation.

by technoid6502＠gmail.com

I've got a Morrow Microdecision 3 on the bench and gather it often shipped with the MD-60 terminal, but for the life of me I can't find what emulation that terminal uses. Lacking the native terminal, what emulation should I be using? Thanks! Jeff

5 years, 4 months

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TRS 80 Model 12 Picked up

by lyokoboy0＠gmail.com

Greetings. It has been an interesting day. Rather late in the day, a buddy notified me of a local thrift store that went under, and mentioned there may be some computers on site up for grabs. Upon arrival, the place was a mess, but the folks there were friendly and gave me the tour, everything had to go, the shopkeeper skipped town and left the place full of junk for the Building owner to clean out. I found a TRS 80 Model 12, a vga commodore branded monitor, commodore cassette drive, among some misc 5.25 floppy disks. There may be more, I need to go back for another sweep in the morning. The computer is extremely big, taking up an entire kitchen table,rivaling the space that is taken up on my desk for a pdp 11. I am looking to clear a space to work on it without dropping parts. The machine looks to be clean, However i am missing the keyboard. The machine does not power on or show anything on the screen. I do hear a high pitched hiss, so there may be some kind of power supply issue. I was not aware of this model of machine, I am curious if anyone has a spare keyboard for sale. I am not familiar with this model, it has 2, 8 inch floppy drives on the front. I am curious about the format of the disks, would it be possible to use another computer with an 8 inch drive to make a floppy to start the machine, or do the drives use an odd difficult format that would be impossible to write? http://devindamico.com/Uploads/TRS80M12.jpg --Devin D.

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MS-DOS 2.11 Assign.com

by r_a_feldman＠hotmail.com

I'm trying to copy files off my Otrona Attache 8:16 using FastLynx 3.3, but I keep getting an error 708 when trying to push SL.EXE to the Otrona over the serial port. I am wondering if the reason for the error is that the Otrona does not have a C: drive. Therefore, I would like to try to use Assign.com to assign C: to A:, but the Attache version of MS-DOS 2.11 does not include Assign.com. Does anyone have a copy of the MS-DOS 2.11 version of Assign.com they can send me? Thanks, Robert Feldman

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OpenVMS Community License

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 09:03 AM 7/28/2020, you wrote: >FYI...new VMS community license. > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ2n2RlNVtw Titled "Failover Mechanism". Did you mean "VSI Community License Program" dated 7/28/2020: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCjFIASH87s>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCjFIASH87s - John

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CLCC68 Covers

by pbirkel＠gmail.com

I intend to restore a pair of boards that used Intel Ceramic Leadless Chip Carrier (CLCC) parts. Unfortunately the socket covers were tossed when the boards were scavenged for their chips. The sockets and attached clips are themselves just fine. eBay item # 252830664338 is an example of this style of 68-pin socket. Item # 362702811275 is an example IC in CLCC form. If anyone has a par (or even just one) of these covers lurking in their odds-n-ends collection somewhere I'm interested in putting them back into service. Thank you for taking a look! paul

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chaos and the LGP-30

by wrcooke＠wrcooke.net

The LGP-30 has been discussed here (often fondly) a few times so I thought this might be of interest. Adds a bit of fame to the little guy that I wasn't aware of. I was reading the wikipedia web page on chaos theory and found this passage: "Edward Lorenz was an early pioneer of the theory. His interest in chaos came about accidentally through his work on weather prediction in 1961.[12] Lorenz was using a simple digital computer, a Royal McBee LGP-30, to run his weather simulation. He wanted to see a sequence of data again, and to save time he started the simulation in the middle of its course. He did this by entering a printout of the data that corresponded to conditions in the middle of the original simulation. To his surprise, the weather the machine began to predict was completely different from the previous calculation. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory#History Will

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(Virtual) VCF West is this weekend - tune in!

by mbbrutman＠brutman.com

Join us on August first for a virtual VCF event! We can't safely meet in person so we are going to do what we can online. The good news is that you can tune-in via YouTube and ask questions of the presenters via email, enabling anybody in the world with a modest Internet connection to participate. The event schedule can be found at http://vcfed.org/wp/vcf-west-event-schedule/ . It will be a long day so tune in for what you can, and then find the rest available on YouTube afterwards. -Mike

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Broken VT510

by w9gb＠icloud.com

As noted, in another reply, the DEC VT-5xx terminal series was mfg. by ADDS. Boundless Technologies (former ADDS) shutdown sales a few years ago. They will service & supply parts, as long as inventory of proprietary parts exists. http://www.boundlessterminals.com/ Boundless Technologies 1916 State Route 96 Phelps, NY 14532 www.boundlessterminals.com Phone (toll-free): 1-800-231-5445 Phone: 1-315-548-6189 Fax: 1-315-548-5100 CONTACT PAGE: http://www.boundlessterminals.com/support.html We will continue to service and repair Boundless products at our Z-AXIS facility (Rochester, NY area) until spare parts are no longer available. While Boundless expects to maintain their website, in the near future, they HIGHLY recommend that you download ANY Manuals you might need in the future. http://www.boundlessterminals.com/documentation.html greg == Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 14:36:06 -0400 From: Paul Koning <paulkoning at comcast.net> To: "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Broken VT510 I recently brought home a VT510 that has been sitting in my office, rescued from a lab from way back when it was a DEC office (ZKO). Unfortunately, when I plug it in and push the power switch, nothing happens. Rather than just open it up and poke, I was hoping others here might have some experience with that model. Are the schematics anywhere? Not on Bitsavers as far as I can see. Are other terminals at all similar? The newest schematic I see is for the VT340. It would be nice to get the terminal working again. Alternatively, a wild idea would be to use the CRT in place of the "screen fungus" infested VR201 CRT I would like to repair. Any chance of that working? paul

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Broken VT510

by paulkoning＠comcast.net

I recently brought home a VT510 that has been sitting in my office, rescued from a lab from way back when it was a DEC office (ZKO). Unfortunately, when I plug it in and push the power switch, nothing happens. Rather than just open it up and poke, I was hoping others here might have some experience with that model. Are the schematics anywhere? Not on Bitsavers as far as I can see. Are other terminals at all similar? The newest schematic I see is for the VT340. It would be nice to get the terminal working again. Alternatively, a wild idea would be to use the CRT in place of the "screen fungus" infested VR201 CRT I would like to repair. Any chance of that working? paul

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Any interest in "newer" hardware, software?

by boris＠summitclinic.com

Mike: Just looked in more detail at photographs of my notes in drive box and appears I did verify that drive motor worked in 1987. Project to get this drive connected to my C64 got derailed by my being accepted to medical school a couple of months after my last interaction with that drive. Was somewhat surprised to discover that 8" floppy drive as I thought the Vic20 box had my other TI99 computer which might have been lost at some point in last 30 years and multiple moves. Never had a chance to try reading an 8" PDP-11 floppy in it and no longer have any as all of them went to Glen Slick in 2008 when he got my MINC and related hardware. There was an interesting computer surplus store in Seattle that I no longer recall name of, but one of landmarks was a company that sold Buffalo Wipes nearby. Unfortunately places like this no longer exist and remember it being crammed full of various bits of electronics that would have to be lifted out of way to see what was buried underneath. Easy to spend a day in there poking around. Everything was as-is and often just good for parts. Location you've specified as a means of transferring drive a good one and a short drive >from Kamloops and one I like doing but unfortunately limited to Canadian side of border now. Did run across a couple of 80486 boards today and must have played with them as found some 80 Mb HDD's in same box. One was fully loaded with about 8 Mb of RAM! Boris >A lot of the younger collectors are spending >ridiculous amounts of money on 486 & Pentium >class machines on assorted facebook vintage and >retro groups. I don't get it either, but >everyone has their fetishes and I try not to >judge. Parted out you can possibly get a couple >hundred bucks out of a machine if you get lucky. > >I personally might be interested in an 8" floppy >drive, mainly to show my coworkers, some of whom >didn't know such things existed. I'm also >vaguely interested in one of the PDP 11/23s, but >I know it's already been vetoed by my wife >without even asking. ???? Any VT100-compatible >terminals in the stash you'd be willing to part with? > >I'm down in Seattle, and occasionally get up >that way while camping, but this year you might >as well be on the moon. Maybe we could arrange >to meet on the border near Oroville and Osoyoos, >and you can throw them across the border. > >-mike > >-----Original Message----- >From: cctalk <cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org> On >Behalf Of Boris Gimbarzevsky via cctalk >Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 11:36 PM >To: cctalk at classiccmp.org >Subject: Any interest in "newer" hardware, software? > >Have been going through my shop and storage room >trying to see what can get rid of and wasn't >aware of how much old electronics and computers >have accumulated over last 50 years. Should >note that this process has been at insistance of >my wife as a lot of these boxes just got moved >whenever I moved and much of this stuff haven't looked at for decades. > >Was about to toss a 1987 box containing DOS 3.3 >but then figured someone might want it. Have a >couple of XT systems kicking around somewhere >but in 1987 I'd discovered the Mac and >considered 68000 processor a far superior >architecture as it was an easy transition from >someone who'd spent most of their time >programming on a PDP-11. Also have early Mac >software, hundreds of 3.5" disks which are >primarily taking up space and all of them have >been copied to HDD's and now run my Mac code >under Basilisk2 was faster than it used to run >on my MacIIvx (of which I have a couple). > >Also managed to find, in no particular order, a >couple of C64's, a TI99, ZX81, VIC20 and an 8" >floppy drive with full documentation that I >faintly recall buying at a surplus electronics >place in Seattle. Also found a box of old >Univac cards which appear to be DTL with >individual transistors and then go on to having >DTL IC's as well as some old IBM cards. Used to >pull transistors and diodes off these to build >my own circuits 50 years ago. Now, with storage >being so ridiculously cheap haven't even come >close to making a dent in the capacity of a 256 >Gb SD card in my Samsung S8 handheld >supercomputer of which I'm using the camera >function to create high res images of what I'm going through. > >Also have lots of PC motherboards starting with >XT's and progressing upwards. Never liked 80286 >and so only collected from 80386 and >higher. Seem to have lots of various parallel >port adapters, disk interfaces as well as >parallel and serial port boards. Was planning >on using these as dedicated processors for data >acquisition but found that technology progressed >faster than my getting around to use them and >it's a lot simpler to either use Phidget's SBC >with various sensors for environmental >monitoring or a much less power hungry Parallax >Propellar chip for more demanding data >acquisition applications. (Haven't let my wife >know how many of newer systems I have stashed >away but they take up way less room than old hardware). > >Do also have a couple of PDP 11/23 systems which >I'll probably have to part with as I haven't >used then in last 15 years. Also have a number >of unibus boards which haven't run into yet but >won't be using them. Lots of old computer books >as well which would be nice to keep but likely >have most of documentation in digital form and >usually back up all important pdf files to separate drives. > >The PC stuff is most voluminous and, if there's >any interest, can post images of what I have on >my web site. Only components I've tested are >disk drives of which most work but SCSI drives >are all old and a number of them didn't take >kindly to be powered off after running for years >and being moved from Vancouver to Kamloops. > >Boris Gimbarzevsky

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Adventures online

by 821＠128.ca

Almost all InfoCom adventure games now online running on a mainframe! Telnet to 35.209.67.107 (guest/guest1) and play text mode adventure games on a mainframe https://twitter.com/bmoshix/status/1285905078373814273/photo/1

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Altair 8800 reproduction

by stephen.m.pereira.sr＠gmail.com

I had the same confusion about Mike?s Altair 8800c not being a complete kit, and wondering what it would take to ?upgrade? my Altair 8800 Clone to be a real Altair 8800c a bit more than a year ago. I ended up not finding very much assistance at the time, so I bulled my way through it, and got it done using the info and pointers from Mike?s site. Another time someone asked about this I posted my experience on the VCF. See this: http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?69929-Altair-8800-clone-cost-to-b… <http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?69929-Altair-8800-clone-cost-to-b…> Mike?s original topic on VCF is here: http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?66737-Building-and-Altair-8800-fr… The bottom line is that you *can* get it done with the info and pointers that Mike provides on his site. He is also reachable on the VCF and also by telephone. He is tremendously helpful and will answer any questions that you may have. smp - - - Stephen Pereira Bedford, NH 03110 KB1SXE > On Jul 24, 2020, at 1:00 PM, cctech-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > > > Message: 13 > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:15:34 +0800 > From: Tom Hunter <ccth6600 at gmail.com> > To: Greg Beat <gregory.beat at gmail.com> > Cc: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Altair 8800 reproduction > Message-ID: > <CAALEduAsERN897fBN8rDCqt_mN6wHc2J8qSDzYyhfU2CibmiJQ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Greg, > > I saw Mike Douglas' Altair 8800c but he writes on his website that this is > not a complete kit. I got the impression that he offers only the front > panel PCBs, FDC and SIO and maybe the S100 motherboard. > > Thank you for the link to the S100computers group. There is a lot of useful > info there. > > I am retired now and always wanted an Altair 8800. It is time to make that > dream reality. The easiest and more affordable path would be the Altair > 8800 clone but somehow I am more attracted to the non-emulated > implementation. > > Thanks again > Tom Hunter > > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 3:02 AM Greg Beat <gregory.beat at gmail.com> wrote: > >> ?Tom, >> Grant moved shortly after this Kit offering, over a decade ago. >> That kit is OVER (Grant no longer offering). >> >> Participate in the S100computers Group: http://www.s100computers.com/ >> Join the List at Google Group: S100Computers >> https://groups.google.com <https://groups.google.com/my-groups> >> >> Grant special ordered the metal fabrication, at that time, from the >> original metal fabricators (Optima, $$), who have gone thru mergers & >> off-shoring. >> Mike Douglas looked into that chassis possibility ? but was cost >> prohibitive (>$300). >> >> Mike Douglas offers BOTH the Altair Clone (you referenced) AND >> the Altair 8800c Kits (November 2018). This case he had fabricated is a >> close look-a-like, but Lighter in weight. Still the case alone is $300 . >> This case does not have the internal Optima sub chassis (weight) and rails. >> ?https://deramp.com/altair_8800c.html >> >> Suggest you look at Mike?s multiple vintage computer offerings (web site) >> AND >> https://deramp.com/ >> >> His YouTube Videos (deramp5113). Here is the Altair 8800c, shown November >> 2018 >> https://youtu.be/Q5LjkL5b4n8 >> >> greg >> w9gb >> == >> From: Tom Hunter <ccth6600 at gmail.com> >> To: "General Discussion? <cctalk at classiccmp.org> >> Subject: Altair 8800 reproduction >> >> About 10 years ago Grant Stockly in Anchorage Alaska produced high quality >> MITS Altair 8800 reproductions in kit form. The website still exists: >> http://www.altairkit.com/ >> >> I have tried to contact Grant but did not get a reply. Does anyone know if >> these kits are still available? Is Grant on this forum? >> >> Alternatively is somebody else making complete Altair 8800 kits? I have >> found people making individual boards but not a complete kit. >> >> There is also the Altair 8800 clone which is based on a PIC microcontroller >> emulating the entire original Altair 8800. It is cute but not the real >> thing. >> >> Thanks >> Tom Hunter >> >> Sent from iPad Air >>

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IBM 3194 VDU (WTB/pinout).

by andrew＠carrierdetect.com

I have an IBM 3194 base unit and keyboard, but no monitor. Hence would like to try and source a suitable monitor and any suggestions on this front would be appreciated. Failing which, also considering the possibility of using some other non-original monitor, but not sure what the interface (15-pin D type, but standard density) is and pinout etc. Also potentially interested in offers of other 3270 displays (off-list). Cheers, Andrew

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cctalk Digest, Vol 70, Issue 22

by athornton＠gmail.com

If it's actually running on real z hardware Linux is probably already running under z/VM. If it's running on Hercules, then....OK, but the host system could have handled the Infocom games without ever even blinking. But I've been known to do silly emulation tricks too: https://www.fsf.net/~adam/NT-on-390-desktop.png Adam On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:00 AM <cctalk-request at classiccmp.org> wrote: > Send cctalk mailing list submissions to > cctalk at classiccmp.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cctalk-request at classiccmp.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cctalk-owner at classiccmp.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of cctalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RE: AlphaServer 2100s available (Rob Jarratt) > 2. Re: AlphaServer 2100s available (Antonio Carlini) > 3. Adventures online (821 at 128.ca) > 4. Looking for copy of BASIC ROM for HP 3396B Integrator II > (Martin.Hepperle at dlr.de) > 5. RE: Adventures online (Ali) > 6. Re: Adventures online (Kevin Lee) > 7. RE: Adventures online (Ali) > 8. Re: Adventures online (Kevin Monceaux) > 9. Re: Adventures online (Kevin Lee) > 10. RE: AlphaServer 2100s available (Rob Jarratt) > 11. HP3000 Microcode is in SYSDUMP (backup) for WCS machines > (64,68,70, 37,...) (Rodney Brown) > 12. Re: Adventures online (Doug Jackson) > 13. Re: Adventures online (Chris Zach) > 14. Re: Adventures online (Chuck Guzis) > 15. Re: Getting files off a 7300--Mission accomplished > (David Gesswein) > 16. Re: Getting files off a 7300--Mission accomplished > (David Gesswein) > 17. Re: Getting files off a 7300--Mission accomplished (Chris Zach) > 18. Re: Adventures online (Grant Taylor) > 19. Altair 8800 reproduction (Tom Hunter) > 20. Re: Altair 8800 reproduction (Bill Degnan) > 21. Re: Adventures online (Grant Taylor) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 19:40:13 +0100 > From: "Rob Jarratt" <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> > To: "'Dave Wade'" <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com>, "'General Discussion: > On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>, > <antonio at acarlini.com>, "'Antonio Carlini'" < > a.carlini at ntlworld.com> > Subject: RE: AlphaServer 2100s available > Message-ID: <00c101d66057$89b6fb20$9d24f160$(a)ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I would like to come to see it when you get it Dave. I wish I could take > one too, I wonder if I could make room as the dimensions don't seem *that* > huge. > > Regards > > Rob > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cctalk <cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org> On Behalf Of Dave Wade via > > cctalk > > Sent: 21 July 2020 22:16 > > To: antonio at acarlini.com; 'Antonio Carlini' <a.carlini at ntlworld.com>; > 'General > > Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > > Subject: RE: AlphaServer 2100s available > > > > Antonio, > > Happy to take one. Can collect. Be a nice companion for VAX and IBM P390. > > Keep hearing of Alphas but nothing has appeared. > > Dave > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cctalk <cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org> On Behalf Of Antonio > > > Carlini via cctalk > > > Sent: 21 July 2020 20:58 > > > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > > > Subject: AlphaServer 2100s available > > > > > > I have three AlphaServer 2100 systems in storage in the UK > (Oxfordshire). > > > The storage, however, is due to be demolished (soon, but no fixed > date). > > > > > > > > > I won't have room to store these three systems, so if anyone would be > > > interested in offering them a home, then please get in touch! > > > > > > > > > I can probably get some pictures in the next day or two. > > > > > > > > > These systems were SMP Alphas and could sport as many as 4 CPUs. I'm > > > not sure of the configuration of these systems but I can probably find > > > that out soon. > > > > > > They have not been run since ~2003 so they may be in need of some TLC. > > > OTOH they are not rusted to death so you have a chance of getting them > > > back to life. > > > > > > > > > Just so you know what you might be dealing with these systems are > about: > > > 700mm H x 430mm W x 810mm L. > > > > > > > > > I can't find the weight in any of my references right now but they are > > > very heavy. Three people can move them up a slight slope with some > > > effort but you would not successfully lift it into a car (assuming > > > that it would fit). I'm planning to dismantle them to move them (i.e. > > > remove PSU/PSUs etc. until they are light enough to move). A tail-lift > > > would probably be the sane way to go (and is, indeed, how they got to > > > their current location. > > > > > > > > > I'm hoping that someone can step forward and offer one or more of > > > these machines a new home. Please contact me off-list (once you're > > > sure you understand what you are getting into :-)). > > > > > > > > > Antonio > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Antonio Carlini > > > antonio at acarlini.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 20:23:38 +0100 > From: Antonio Carlini <a.carlini at ntlworld.com> > To: rob at jarratt.me.uk, 'Dave Wade' <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com>, "'General > Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" <cctalk at classiccmp.org > >, > antonio at acarlini.com > Subject: Re: AlphaServer 2100s available > Message-ID: <8eabc8e8-a1d7-c626-e252-7aa7a8f9176a at ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 22/07/2020 19:40, Rob Jarratt wrote: > > I would like to come to see it when you get it Dave. I wish I could take > one too, I wonder if I could make room as the dimensions don't seem *that* > huge. > > > > Regards > > > Smaller than a VAX-11/780 or? a VAX 6000 or a VAX 7000. So yes, pretty > small :-) > > > The systems are now all provisionally spoken for. I can still try and > get some photos etc. of the various innards. > > > Antonio > > > -- > Antonio Carlini > antonio at acarlini.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 21:52:14 +0200 > From: 821 at 128.ca > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Subject: Adventures online > Message-ID: <89C93C5F-E5DD-448A-80FC-71BA18326F94 at 128.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Almost all InfoCom adventure games now online running on a mainframe! > Telnet to 35.209.67.107 (guest/guest1) and play text mode adventure games > on a mainframe > > https://twitter.com/bmoshix/status/1285905078373814273/photo/1 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 14:19:45 +0000 > From: <Martin.Hepperle at dlr.de> > To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Looking for copy of BASIC ROM for HP 3396B Integrator II > Message-ID: <aa1e9dd115a349459386774e391fca93 at dlr.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Recently, I obtained a HP 3396B Integrator II. > > This is a device for the chemical analysis laboratory. I had hoped that > this device contained a BASIC interpreter, but this was not the case. > > Through the serial interface I can connect a terminal program. Pressing > CTRL+BREAK outputs the sign-on message serial interface: > ~~HP3396,IBLI > > Unfortunately, typing "BX" for "Basic eXternal" on the keyboard tells me: > BASIC NOT INSTALLED > > So I am wondering, whether I can install a BASIC by replacing the ROM with > an EPROM. > > According to the "Installation and Service Manual", the ROM U 110 came in > two versions: > Z-80 Standard-ROM 03396-80012 > Z-80 BASIC-ROM 03396-80032 > This means that the BASIC is NOT in the cradled EPROM but in the ROM in > the lower right corner of the PCB. > My ROM 80013 is probably an revision of 80012. > > So: I need a copy of the 03396-80032 ROM chip. > > > Additionally, if someone has the manual "RS232 Programming Manual", P/N > 03396-90335", for the 3396 integrator. it would be great if he could scan > the document and make the content available. > > [I have the remaining manuals and already sent scans to the HP Museum in > Australia for making them available o their site. > > Main PCB: > +----------------+ +----------------+ > | PPP EPROM | | U 111 | > | 27C011-200V10 | | 27C010-150V10 | > | 03396-80106 | | 03396-80023 | > +----------------+ +----------------+ > > +----------------+ +----------------+ > | U 317 | | U 110 | > | 27128A | | ROM | > | 03396-80043 | | 03396-80013 | > +----------------+ +----------------+ > > Opening the Case > - remove transparent cover from printer compartment by pressing the hinge > flaps inside > - remove 2 screws close to rear edge, from top > - remove 2 screws in printer compartment from top > - remove keyboard: > - keyboard is "hinged" at the front with three rigid noses > - use a pry tool to open the 3 latches at the rear edge of the keyboard > plate > - lift the rear edge and pull the plate back > - if you are careful, the ribbon cable can stay in place, you can thread > the keyboard plate through the case opening > - lift case cover upwards > > > > Thank you for reading, > > Martin > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 13:37:52 -0700 > From: "Ali" <cctalk at ibm51xx.net> > To: <821 at 128.ca>, "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: RE: Adventures online > Message-ID: <005b01d66067$f9b428c0$ed1c7a40$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Almost all InfoCom adventure games now online running on a mainframe! > > Telnet to 35.209.67.107 (guest/guest1) and play text mode adventure > > games on a mainframe > > > > https://twitter.com/bmoshix/status/1285905078373814273/photo/1 > > > Too popular for its own good. Currently failing due to a lack of memory. > > -Ali > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 22:51:02 +0200 > From: Kevin Lee <821 at 128.ca> > To: Ali <cctalk at ibm51xx.net>, "General Discussion: On-Topic and > Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Adventures online > Message-ID: <E6B117CD-3917-4E23-93CF-C1B1E66A8B78 at 128.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Well still glad its getting used :) > cheers > > > > On 22 Jul 2020, at 22:37, Ali via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > >> Almost all InfoCom adventure games now online running on a mainframe! > >> Telnet to 35.209.67.107 (guest/guest1) and play text mode adventure > >> games on a mainframe > >> > >> https://twitter.com/bmoshix/status/1285905078373814273/photo/1 > > > > > > Too popular for its own good. Currently failing due to a lack of memory. > > > > -Ali > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 13:52:10 -0700 > From: "Ali" <cctalk at ibm51xx.net> > To: "'Kevin Lee'" <821 at 128.ca>, "'General Discussion: On-Topic and > Off-Topic Posts'" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: RE: Adventures online > Message-ID: <006201d66069$f8bfa4b0$ea3eee10$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Well still glad its getting used :) > > cheers > > > So am I except I want to use it as well LOL! > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 16:15:57 -0500 > From: Kevin Monceaux <Kevin at RawFedDogs.net> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <CCTalk at ClassicCmp.org> > Subject: Re: Adventures online > Message-ID: <20200722211557.GA12684 at RawFedDogs.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 09:52:14PM +0200, 821--- via cctalk wrote: > > > Almost all InfoCom adventure games now online running on a mainframe! > > Telnet to 35.209.67.107 (guest/guest1) and play text mode adventure games > > on a mainframe > > > > https://twitter.com/bmoshix/status/1285905078373814273/photo/1 > > What make/model mainframe are they running on, and what OS is it running? > > > -- > > Kevin > http://www.RawFedDogs.net > http://www.Lassie.xyz > http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org > Bruceville, TX > > What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! > Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 23:50:06 +0200 > From: Kevin Lee <821 at 128.ca> > To: "Kevin at rawfeddogs.net" <Kevin at RawFedDogs.net>, "General > Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Adventures online > Message-ID: <F033CC41-2932-42B8-9549-DF0ADE4B384E at 128.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Ask the tweet included in the initial posting.. > I have nothing to do with it .. cheers > > > > On 22 Jul 2020, at 23:15, Kevin Monceaux via cctalk < > cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 09:52:14PM +0200, 821--- via cctalk wrote: > > > >> Almost all InfoCom adventure games now online running on a mainframe! > >> Telnet to 35.209.67.107 (guest/guest1) and play text mode adventure > games > >> on a mainframe > >> > >> https://twitter.com/bmoshix/status/1285905078373814273/photo/1 > > > > What make/model mainframe are they running on, and what OS is it running? > > > > > > -- > > > > Kevin > > http://www.RawFedDogs.net > > http://www.Lassie.xyz > > http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org > > Bruceville, TX > > > > What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! > > Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 23:34:03 +0100 > From: "Rob Jarratt" <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> > To: <antonio at acarlini.com>, <rob at jarratt.me.uk>, "'Dave Wade'" > <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com>, "'General Discussion: On-Topic and > Off-Topic > Posts'" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: RE: AlphaServer 2100s available > Message-ID: <00e001d66078$33eeac30$9bcc0490$(a)ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Well I suppose the important thing is that they have been spoken for. > Hopefully I will get to see Dave's in action. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Antonio Carlini <a.carlini at ntlworld.com> > > Sent: 22 July 2020 20:24 > > To: rob at jarratt.me.uk; 'Dave Wade' <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com>; 'General > > Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' <cctalk at classiccmp.org>; > > antonio at acarlini.com > > Subject: Re: AlphaServer 2100s available > > > > On 22/07/2020 19:40, Rob Jarratt wrote: > > > I would like to come to see it when you get it Dave. I wish I could > take one > > too, I wonder if I could make room as the dimensions don't seem *that* > huge. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Smaller than a VAX-11/780 or a VAX 6000 or a VAX 7000. So yes, pretty > small :- > > ) > > > > > > The systems are now all provisionally spoken for. I can still try and > > get some photos etc. of the various innards. > > > > > > Antonio > > > > > > -- > > Antonio Carlini > > antonio at acarlini.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:09:50 +1000 > From: Rodney Brown <rdbrown0au at gmail.com> > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Subject: HP3000 Microcode is in SYSDUMP (backup) for WCS machines > (64,68,70, 37,...) > Message-ID: <d4f4a716-0271-e089-9937-9c52f3a6380f at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > If written on a Series 64, 68 or 70, or on the Series 37 or it's > successors, > the first file on a SYSDUMP (Backup) tape may include the Microcode from > the > WCS (Writeable Control Store). Please collect such files if you have tapes > available that you can read. > > Note that the first file includes a concatenation of system objects, > ending with > (optionally) the directory so that may leak data that should remain > private. > > It's possible that the distribution tape for MPE V Release 3P G.40 that the > HP Computer Museum has http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?sw=442 > might > also include the WCS data. The bootable disc image for the Series 37 and > it's > successors will. The Museum website doesn't mention media for their 68. > > Thanks as always to Al Kossow for his BitSavers work. > > 30140-90045_Series_64_68_70_Microcode_Manual_Oct86.pdf > has a 543 page listing of the microcode assembly output, which should > wait for > better OCR software. > > SYSDUMP Format > > ? |-------------------------| <--- ENTRY POINT #1 (ROM BASED > ? |????? CHECKSUM?????????? | 0??? MACHINES) > ? |? AMIGO CHANNEL PROGRAM? | > --|??? WCS TABLE PRT??????? | 95 > | |-------------------------| 127 > | |--???????????????????? --| > | |--?? AMIGO???????????? --| > | |-------------------------| > ->|???? WCS TABLE?????????? | > | |-------------------------| > > ... > G.01.00 > 16- 10 > > 32033-90010_MPE_V-E_Tables_G.00.00_Sep84.pdf? 16-7? pg 127 in PDF > 32033-90040_MPE_V-E_Tables_G.01.00_Jan85.pdf? 16-10 pg 133 in PDF > 32033-91047_MPE_V_Tables_Manual_Oct1991.pdf?? 16-10 pg 146 in PDF > Descriptions of the WCS Table Format are in 16-13 to 16-15 of the 1991 > edition > Different formats for the Series 6x/70 and the Series 37, 37XP and 37 Micro > > #Capture of Co-Cam's Series 52 final full backup (SYSDUMP @. at .@) in Feb > 1995. > (So no WCS table entry) > # 0 is the first file on the tape, the start of which is documented above > > $ od -Ad --endian=big -tx2 0 | head - 40 > 0000000 e0e0 0000 0009 0813 0909 0301 0003 0000 > 0000016 0400 0e41 0180 0002 0501 0000 0000 fff5 > 0000032 0401 0001 0000 0400 0e43 0200 0000 0501 > 0000048 0000 0000 ffea 0300 007e 0440 8000 0200 > 0000064 0000 0002 0000 fff1 0407 0001 0000 4400 > 0000080 0e43 0302 0002 0000 0400 0e40 0200 0000 > 0000096 0501 0000 f38d ffd1 0000 0000 0000 0000 > 0000112 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 > * > 0000176 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 > 0000192 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 > * > 0000256 0000 0000 0009 0813 0909 0301 0003 0000 > 0000272 0400 0201 0180 0002 0401 002e 0001 8800 > 0000288 0204 0f07 0000 0200 0000 0501 0000 0000 > 0000304 ffec 0000 fff1 0401 0001 0000 0400 0203 > 0000320 0200 0000 0501 0000 0000 ffdf 0300 0100 > 0000336 0440 8000 0e40 0000 0002 0000 fff1 0407 > 0000352 0001 0000 4400 0203 0302 0002 0000 0400 > 0000368 0200 0200 0000 0501 0000 0c02 ffc6 0000 > 0000384 0000 002d 0000 0000 0000 002d 0000 0000 > * > 0000416 000a 0000 f000 000c 000b 0016 f000 0017 > 0000432 000b 000b f000 0022 000b 0000 f000 0000 > 0000448 0000 002d 0000 0000 0000 002d 0000 0000 > * > 0000624 0000 002d 0000 0000 0000 002d 0000 3238 > 0000640 3333 4120 2020 0000 1820 0000 1000 15d8 > 0000656 2eb4 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 > 0000672 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 > ... > > $ head -20 blks/0.blks # tape block sizes in bytes > 256 > 126 > 256 * 2 > 8192 * 6 > 256 > 8192 * 2 > 256 > 126 > 256 > 8192 * 10 > 256 > 8192 * 10 > 256 > 8192 * 10 > 256 > 96 > 2910 > 80 > 24 > > $ ls -lh 0 > -r-xr-xr-x 1 rdb rdb 3.5M Dec 12? 2006 0 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 12:35:33 +1000 > From: Doug Jackson <doug at doughq.com> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Adventures online > Message-ID: > <CAM_9E60RKe-D8ynRrNL= > op+HnKvor24cDmtG1JQtn6VSUCGjog at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Sadly, the original tweet doesn't mention what mainframe - Somebody did > ask, and there was no response I could see. > > The error messages suggest it's some sort of Linux system using Docker > containers, so it's not OS/360 :-) > > I suspect given that it's running out of memory, that it's yet another > linux box. > > > > Kindest regards, > > Doug Jackson > > em: doug at doughq.com > ph: 0414 986878 > > Check out my awesome clocks at www.dougswordclocks.com > Follow my amateur radio adventures at vk1zdj.net > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Just like an old fashioned letter, this email and any files transmitted > with it should probably be treated as confidential and intended solely for > your own use. > > Please note that any interesting spelling is usually my own and may have > been caused by fat thumbs on a tiny tiny keyboard. > > Should any part of this message prove to be useful in the event of the > imminent Zombie Apocalypse then the sender bears no personal, legal, or > moral responsibility for any outcome resulting from its usage unless the > result of said usage is the unlikely defeat of the Zombie Hordes in which > case the sender takes full credit without any theoretical or actual legal > liability. :-) > > Be nice to your parents. > > Go outside and do something awesome - Draw, paint, walk, setup a > radio station, go fishing or sailing - just do something that makes you > happy. > > ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G- In more laid back days this line would literally > sing ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G > > > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 7:50 AM Kevin Lee via cctalk < > cctalk at classiccmp.org> > wrote: > > > Ask the tweet included in the initial posting.. > > I have nothing to do with it .. cheers > > > > > > > On 22 Jul 2020, at 23:15, Kevin Monceaux via cctalk < > > cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 09:52:14PM +0200, 821--- via cctalk wrote: > > > > > >> Almost all InfoCom adventure games now online running on a mainframe! > > >> Telnet to 35.209.67.107 (guest/guest1) and play text mode adventure > > games > > >> on a mainframe > > >> > > >> https://twitter.com/bmoshix/status/1285905078373814273/photo/1 > > > > > > What make/model mainframe are they running on, and what OS is it > running? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Kevin > > > http://www.RawFedDogs.net > > > http://www.Lassie.xyz > > > http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org > > > Bruceville, TX > > > > > > What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! > > > Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 22:52:14 -0400 > From: Chris Zach <cz at alembic.crystel.com> > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Adventures online > Message-ID: <6ae549f7-011e-8c1b-4858-769d427ba4c8 at alembic.crystel.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Just put up a big pdp11 and be done with it. Hm. Running on Simh a fully > loaded 11 should handle just about anything the internet could toss at > it... > > C > > On 7/22/2020 10:35 PM, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote: > > Sadly, the original tweet doesn't mention what mainframe - Somebody did > > ask, and there was no response I could see. > > > > The error messages suggest it's some sort of Linux system using Docker > > containers, so it's not OS/360 :-) > > > > I suspect given that it's running out of memory, that it's yet another > > linux box. > > > > > > > > Kindest regards, > > > > Doug Jackson > > > > em: doug at doughq.com > > ph: 0414 986878 > > > > Check out my awesome clocks at www.dougswordclocks.com > > Follow my amateur radio adventures at vk1zdj.net > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Just like an old fashioned letter, this email and any files transmitted > > with it should probably be treated as confidential and intended solely > for > > your own use. > > > > Please note that any interesting spelling is usually my own and may have > > been caused by fat thumbs on a tiny tiny keyboard. > > > > Should any part of this message prove to be useful in the event of the > > imminent Zombie Apocalypse then the sender bears no personal, legal, or > > moral responsibility for any outcome resulting from its usage unless the > > result of said usage is the unlikely defeat of the Zombie Hordes in which > > case the sender takes full credit without any theoretical or actual legal > > liability. :-) > > > > Be nice to your parents. > > > > Go outside and do something awesome - Draw, paint, walk, setup a > > radio station, go fishing or sailing - just do something that makes you > > happy. > > > > ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G- In more laid back days this line would literally > > sing ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 7:50 AM Kevin Lee via cctalk < > cctalk at classiccmp.org> > > wrote: > > > >> Ask the tweet included in the initial posting.. > >> I have nothing to do with it .. cheers > >> > >> > >>> On 22 Jul 2020, at 23:15, Kevin Monceaux via cctalk < > >> cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 09:52:14PM +0200, 821--- via cctalk wrote: > >>> > >>>> Almost all InfoCom adventure games now online running on a mainframe! > >>>> Telnet to 35.209.67.107 (guest/guest1) and play text mode adventure > >> games > >>>> on a mainframe > >>>> > >>>> https://twitter.com/bmoshix/status/1285905078373814273/photo/1 > >>> > >>> What make/model mainframe are they running on, and what OS is it > running? > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> Kevin > >>> http://www.RawFedDogs.net > >>> http://www.Lassie.xyz > >>> http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org > >>> Bruceville, TX > >>> > >>> What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! > >>> Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum. > >> > >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 20:42:58 -0700 > From: Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> > To: Chris Zach via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Adventures online > Message-ID: <5f853e65-1d98-cdca-78c5-1cb9f7c865b2 at sydex.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > On 7/22/20 7:52 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > > Just put up a big pdp11 and be done with it. > > A PDP11 might be a "mainframe" (personally, I'd call it a minicomputer), > but in the world of mainframes, it's hardly "big". > > FWIW, > Chuck > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 18:38:20 -0400 > From: David Gesswein <djg at pdp8online.com> > To: cctech at classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Getting files off a 7300--Mission accomplished > Message-ID: <20200722223820.GA4802 at hugin3> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 05:12:10PM -0400, Chris Zach wrote: > > Working on it. Question: Was the 67mb drive in a 7300/3B1 a miniscribe > 6085? > > > Yes it was. http://www.pdp8online.com/3b1/drive.shtml > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 18:54:30 -0400 > From: David Gesswein <djg at pdp8online.com> > To: cctech at classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Getting files off a 7300--Mission accomplished > Message-ID: <20200722225430.GB4802 at hugin3> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:58:01AM -0700, Ian Finder wrote: > > I may be able to track down floppies for 7300 TCP, if we can confirm it > is > > extinct in the wild... > > > It may exist but is wounded. > > https://archives.loomcom.com/retrocomputing/UnixPC/Install/standardized/eth… > > All the 10S disks seem to have been read in a way that only got 9 sectors > per track so are no good. The ethernet_hardware_diag.dd is bad. The files > are in multiple locations on this site but any 10S image thats not 404480 > is > bad. > > Manual is here > https://archives.loomcom.com/retrocomputing/UnixPC/3B1_Docs/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 20:22:12 -0400 > From: Chris Zach <cz at alembic.crystel.com> > To: cctech at classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Getting files off a 7300--Mission accomplished > Message-ID: <fa6e0648-a9a6-8dd6-36af-42dc43e5d98b at alembic.crystel.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hm. Then I have a dillema. When I popped in the Miniscribe and tried > booting it started reading the disk then popped out a boot error. > Possibly a bad sector, but how can I read this disk to find the rest of > the data? > > Hm.... Anyone got one of those Beaglebone/RPI to MFM readers I could > borrow for a bit to slurp this drive? > > C > > On 7/22/2020 6:38 PM, David Gesswein via cctech wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 05:12:10PM -0400, Chris Zach wrote: > >> Working on it. Question: Was the 67mb drive in a 7300/3B1 a miniscribe > 6085? > >> > > Yes it was. http://www.pdp8online.com/3b1/drive.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 23:32:41 -0600 > From: Grant Taylor <cctalk at gtaylor.tnetconsulting.net> > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Adventures online > Message-ID: > <35e88690-9ada-e57b-281e-cbfdbfc54d71 at gtaylor.tnetconsulting.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 7/22/20 8:35 PM, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote: > > Sadly, the original tweet doesn't mention what mainframe - Somebody > > did ask, and there was no response I could see. > > I asked @bmoshix what the system was. I've not gotten a reply yet. > > > The error messages suggest it's some sort of Linux system using Docker > > containers, so it's not OS/360 :-) > > I half way expect that it's Docker running on z/OS. > > > I suspect given that it's running out of memory, that it's yet another > > linux box. > > It could be Docker on Linux on Z, but I'd be mildly surprised by that. > I doubt it's Linux on a more typical system. Though the following file > name in the dump makes me think it's AMD-64 architecture. > > /usr/local/go/src/runtime/asm_amd64.s > > > > -- > Grant. . . . > unix || die > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 22:39:20 +0800 > From: Tom Hunter <ccth6600 at gmail.com> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Altair 8800 reproduction > Message-ID: > <CAALEduAgZnPn=1ebHadg3vyTW486= > woRiQxEvZUwG4NYUm7n7Q at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > About 10 years ago Grant Stockly in Anchorage Alaska produced high quality > MITS Altair 8800 reproductions in kit form. The website still exists: > http://www.altairkit.com/ > > I have tried to contact Grant but did not get a reply. Does anyone know if > these kits are still available? Is Grant on this forum? > > Alternatively is somebody else making complete Altair 8800 kits? I have > found people making individual boards but not a complete kit. > > There is also the Altair 8800 clone which is based on a PIC microcontroller > emulating the entire original Altair 8800. It is cute but not the real > thing. > > Thanks > Tom Hunter > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 11:09:14 -0400 > From: Bill Degnan <billdegnan at gmail.com> > To: Tom Hunter <ccth6600 at gmail.com>, "General Discussion: On-Topic > and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Altair 8800 reproduction > Message-ID: > <CABGJBueOtGo6+CGCx0_xC6oe+uMO= > z2VK7q0+XRghfod8h-t6Q at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > This comes up from time to time, I don't believe he is making any more > kits. I have not heard from him for a while. > Bill > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:39 AM Tom Hunter via cctalk < > cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > About 10 years ago Grant Stockly in Anchorage Alaska produced high > quality > > MITS Altair 8800 reproductions in kit form. The website still exists: > > http://www.altairkit.com/ > > > > I have tried to contact Grant but did not get a reply. Does anyone know > if > > these kits are still available? Is Grant on this forum? > > > > Alternatively is somebody else making complete Altair 8800 kits? I have > > found people making individual boards but not a complete kit. > > > > There is also the Altair 8800 clone which is based on a PIC > microcontroller > > emulating the entire original Altair 8800. It is cute but not the real > > thing. > > > > Thanks > > Tom Hunter > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:32:42 -0600 > From: Grant Taylor <cctalk at gtaylor.tnetconsulting.net> > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Adventures online > Message-ID: > <edc2ecdd-4165-9e36-0e14-4fc3346cc12b at gtaylor.tnetconsulting.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 7/22/20 11:32 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: > > I asked @bmoshix what the system was.? I've not gotten a reply yet. > > @bmoshix replied that it's Linux running on a mainframe. > > > I half way expect that it's Docker running on z/OS. > > So, apparently not Docker running on z/OS. > > > It could be Docker on Linux on Z, but I'd be mildly surprised by that. > > I'm mildly surprised. > > > I doubt it's Linux on a more typical system. Though the following > > file name in the dump makes me think it's AMD-64 architecture. > > > > /usr/local/go/src/runtime/asm_amd64.s > > Now I'm more confused as to why asm_amd64.s, something I assume is > related to x86_64 ~> PC (compatible) is being used. > > I wonder if the copies of the games that @bmoshix is running were > written for a mainframe or a PC (compatible). The latter makes more > sense with the asm_amd64.s and comments about installing these games on > a PC. > > > > -- > Grant. . . . > unix || die > > > End of cctalk Digest, Vol 70, Issue 22 > ************************************** >

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Altair 8800 reproduction

by ccth6600＠gmail.com

About 10 years ago Grant Stockly in Anchorage Alaska produced high quality MITS Altair 8800 reproductions in kit form. The website still exists: http://www.altairkit.com/ I have tried to contact Grant but did not get a reply. Does anyone know if these kits are still available? Is Grant on this forum? Alternatively is somebody else making complete Altair 8800 kits? I have found people making individual boards but not a complete kit. There is also the Altair 8800 clone which is based on a PIC microcontroller emulating the entire original Altair 8800. It is cute but not the real thing. Thanks Tom Hunter

5 years, 4 months

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Getting files off a 7300

by cz＠alembic.crystel.com

Anyone know the best way to get files off an AT&T 7300/3B1 computer? This one has a lot of Perq stuff in a directory as well as hilarious things you can do with RP06 disk platters (ah, when we were young...) It does have an AUI Ethernet port on the back, but doesn't appear to have TCP/IP installed. Maybe I can install TCP and find my old Synoptics 10bt to AUI adapter? CZ

5 years, 4 months

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HP3000 Microcode is in SYSDUMP (backup) for WCS machines (64,68,70, 37,...)

by rdbrown0au＠gmail.com

If written on a Series 64, 68 or 70, or on the Series 37 or it's successors, the first file on a SYSDUMP (Backup) tape may include the Microcode from the WCS (Writeable Control Store). Please collect such files if you have tapes available that you can read. Note that the first file includes a concatenation of system objects, ending with (optionally) the directory so that may leak data that should remain private. It's possible that the distribution tape for MPE V Release 3P G.40 that the HP Computer Museum has http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?sw=442 might also include the WCS data. The bootable disc image for the Series 37 and it's successors will. The Museum website doesn't mention media for their 68. Thanks as always to Al Kossow for his BitSavers work. 30140-90045_Series_64_68_70_Microcode_Manual_Oct86.pdf has a 543 page listing of the microcode assembly output, which should wait for better OCR software. SYSDUMP Format ? |-------------------------| <--- ENTRY POINT #1 (ROM BASED ? |????? CHECKSUM?????????? | 0??? MACHINES) ? |? AMIGO CHANNEL PROGRAM? | --|??? WCS TABLE PRT??????? | 95 | |-------------------------| 127 | |--???????????????????? --| | |--?? AMIGO???????????? --| | |-------------------------| ->|???? WCS TABLE?????????? | | |-------------------------| ... G.01.00 16- 10 32033-90010_MPE_V-E_Tables_G.00.00_Sep84.pdf? 16-7? pg 127 in PDF 32033-90040_MPE_V-E_Tables_G.01.00_Jan85.pdf? 16-10 pg 133 in PDF 32033-91047_MPE_V_Tables_Manual_Oct1991.pdf?? 16-10 pg 146 in PDF Descriptions of the WCS Table Format are in 16-13 to 16-15 of the 1991 edition Different formats for the Series 6x/70 and the Series 37, 37XP and 37 Micro #Capture of Co-Cam's Series 52 final full backup (SYSDUMP @. at .@) in Feb 1995. (So no WCS table entry) # 0 is the first file on the tape, the start of which is documented above $ od -Ad --endian=big -tx2 0 | head - 40 0000000 e0e0 0000 0009 0813 0909 0301 0003 0000 0000016 0400 0e41 0180 0002 0501 0000 0000 fff5 0000032 0401 0001 0000 0400 0e43 0200 0000 0501 0000048 0000 0000 ffea 0300 007e 0440 8000 0200 0000064 0000 0002 0000 fff1 0407 0001 0000 4400 0000080 0e43 0302 0002 0000 0400 0e40 0200 0000 0000096 0501 0000 f38d ffd1 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000112 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 * 0000176 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 0000192 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 * 0000256 0000 0000 0009 0813 0909 0301 0003 0000 0000272 0400 0201 0180 0002 0401 002e 0001 8800 0000288 0204 0f07 0000 0200 0000 0501 0000 0000 0000304 ffec 0000 fff1 0401 0001 0000 0400 0203 0000320 0200 0000 0501 0000 0000 ffdf 0300 0100 0000336 0440 8000 0e40 0000 0002 0000 fff1 0407 0000352 0001 0000 4400 0203 0302 0002 0000 0400 0000368 0200 0200 0000 0501 0000 0c02 ffc6 0000 0000384 0000 002d 0000 0000 0000 002d 0000 0000 * 0000416 000a 0000 f000 000c 000b 0016 f000 0017 0000432 000b 000b f000 0022 000b 0000 f000 0000 0000448 0000 002d 0000 0000 0000 002d 0000 0000 * 0000624 0000 002d 0000 0000 0000 002d 0000 3238 0000640 3333 4120 2020 0000 1820 0000 1000 15d8 0000656 2eb4 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000672 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ... $ head -20 blks/0.blks # tape block sizes in bytes 256 126 256 * 2 8192 * 6 256 8192 * 2 256 126 256 8192 * 10 256 8192 * 10 256 8192 * 10 256 96 2910 80 24 $ ls -lh 0 -r-xr-xr-x 1 rdb rdb 3.5M Dec 12? 2006 0

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Looking for copy of BASIC ROM for HP 3396B Integrator II

by Martin.Hepperle＠dlr.de

Recently, I obtained a HP 3396B Integrator II. This is a device for the chemical analysis laboratory. I had hoped that this device contained a BASIC interpreter, but this was not the case. Through the serial interface I can connect a terminal program. Pressing CTRL+BREAK outputs the sign-on message serial interface: ~~HP3396,IBLI Unfortunately, typing "BX" for "Basic eXternal" on the keyboard tells me: BASIC NOT INSTALLED So I am wondering, whether I can install a BASIC by replacing the ROM with an EPROM. According to the "Installation and Service Manual", the ROM U 110 came in two versions: Z-80 Standard-ROM 03396-80012 Z-80 BASIC-ROM 03396-80032 This means that the BASIC is NOT in the cradled EPROM but in the ROM in the lower right corner of the PCB. My ROM 80013 is probably an revision of 80012. So: I need a copy of the 03396-80032 ROM chip. Additionally, if someone has the manual "RS232 Programming Manual", P/N 03396-90335", for the 3396 integrator. it would be great if he could scan the document and make the content available. [I have the remaining manuals and already sent scans to the HP Museum in Australia for making them available o their site. Main PCB: +----------------+ +----------------+ | PPP EPROM | | U 111 | | 27C011-200V10 | | 27C010-150V10 | | 03396-80106 | | 03396-80023 | +----------------+ +----------------+ +----------------+ +----------------+ | U 317 | | U 110 | | 27128A | | ROM | | 03396-80043 | | 03396-80013 | +----------------+ +----------------+ Opening the Case - remove transparent cover from printer compartment by pressing the hinge flaps inside - remove 2 screws close to rear edge, from top - remove 2 screws in printer compartment from top - remove keyboard: - keyboard is "hinged" at the front with three rigid noses - use a pry tool to open the 3 latches at the rear edge of the keyboard plate - lift the rear edge and pull the plate back - if you are careful, the ribbon cable can stay in place, you can thread the keyboard plate through the case opening - lift case cover upwards Thank you for reading, Martin

5 years, 4 months

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Fwd: Looking for BAD / Faulty core memory for a display piece

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 04:35 AM 7/21/2020, Gary Sparkes via cctalk wrote: >Anyone? even if it's physically broken You don't like the ones on eBay? - John

5 years, 4 months

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Wanted Sun 3/80

by spacewar＠gmail.com

I'd like to buy a Sun 3/80 machine. I'm not too interested in other models. I'm willing to pay a fair price plus shipping, but not a L@@K RARE price.

5 years, 4 months

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Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller

by cctalk＠ibm51xx.net

This may be a bit too new for this list but I thought what the heck - maybe one of you Compaq/DEC/HP guys would know: Is there any reason a Smart Array controller can't be used as a simple SCSI controller? I.E. No array, just using it to drive a tape library? TIA! -Ali

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Sun E250, NVRAM edit? (Serial Speeds, no console, etc)

by silvercreekvalley＠yahoo.com

Hi Ethan In theory console can be set to anything but its usually 9600/8/n/1 as I?m sure you?ve tried. On some suns unplugging the serial cable is the equivalent of sending a break, so might be worth a try? Suns do require full hardware signalling on the console connection so might be worth checking.

5 years, 4 months

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windows program to read papertape from reader through serial port

by deramp5113＠yahoo.com

I?ve used Teraterm to receive and save binary paper tapes and ASCII paper tapes to files using the log function without any problem. When you say receive ?into an ASCII file,? what is the ASCII requirement you?re trying to satisfy? What is on the tape - text or binary data? Mike

5 years, 4 months

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Interested in Microport 286 System V?

by robertlipe＠gmail.com

Hi, Warren. We've spoken a few times through the decades, but a have a friend with a delightful relic of PC Unix history: the original 286 UNIX port, well before SCO with Xenix. Bela is in Mountain View, CA so he's on the wrong continent for you, but I figured you might know of an appropriate home for this. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3516115585074301&id=10000027682… Thanks for all you've done to preserve UNIX. RJL

5 years, 4 months

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Unisys MCP (was: Re: UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?)

by sieler＠allegro.com

i> From: Alan Perry <aperry at snowmoose.com> > Why would one get OS/2200 when they can get https://www.unisys.com/offerings/clearpath-forward/clearpath-forward-produc… ? thanks! As an old MCP user/developer (although outside the lab), that's really interesting to me! Note: you have to register to get the software. That's apparently done by clicking on "Downloads". Then you're presented with a registration form. After submitting it, you're told you'll receive an email. Don't hold your breath. It's been 20 minutes, and no email from Unisys :( (And, no email --> no download) Stan

5 years, 4 months

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T-11 evaluation module manual page A-92 added

by aek＠bitsavers.org

fixed version at http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/t11/EK-DCTEM-UG-001_DCT-EM_Users_Guide_S… name changed to differentiate it from other copies on the web

5 years, 4 months

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Looking for BAD / Faulty core memory for a display piece

by mokuba＠gmail.com

Unrepairable preferred It'll be going into an epoxy resin setup that someone I know is doing for a table, and I really want to get something that still LOOKS OK but is... well, just faulty and won't be restorable to service so we don't destroy any potentially usable hardware. Ideas/suggestions welcome! -- Gary G. Sparkes Jr. KB3HAG

5 years, 4 months

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windows program to read papertape from reader through serial port

by billdegnan＠gmail.com

Hi - I read on teraterm's forum or something like it that teraterm is not really equipped to receive an inbound papertape reader dump into an ascii file. What do those of you who have both windows and a tape reader use? RealTerm? If so, what settings? I have been wresting with this for a while...I am told my DSI NC 2400 needs hardware flow control Thanks BIll

5 years, 4 months

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Fan problem with DEC H7822 power supply in MicroVAX 3100

by cctalk＠beyondthepale.ie

I have a MicroVAX 3100 which has a H7822 power supply. The power supply and the machine itself mostly work (there is a problem with the SCSI interfaces but that's another story) except that the two fans in the power supply don't run. If left on for a long time, the machine gets too hot and a thermal trip operates, shutting it down. The fans are DC 12V 0.2A and if I connect them to +5V or +12V, they work fine and don't draw excessive current so there would seem to be a problem with the section of the power supply which drives the fans. Unfortunately, it's operation is not obvious and the power supply is a pig to work on. It consists of two double sided PCBs connected by short leads and having live parts on both boards making it difficult to get access to both sides of the board where the fan circuit is when the power is on. I don't have an identical working power supply to compare the faulty one to but the fan circuit looks superficially similar to the one in the H7821 which I do have working examples of so that may be a way to proceed. Does anyone have a service manual for the H7822 or H7821 or know how the fan circuit is supposed to work in these power supplies? Regards, Peter Coghlan.

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Anyone out there that can read 7 track / 556 BPI tapes?

by cramcram＠gmail.com

Hi, I bumped into an old friend of mine today. We both talked about a pair of machines we worked on that no longer exist as far as we cant tell. They were both Adage machines and had the same base digital architecture. Their names are Ambilog 200 and AGT-30. The Ambilog was the predecessor to the AGT line. The AGT came in 3 flavors, AGT-10, AGT-30 and AGT-50. The 30 seems to have been the most prevalent. They were 30 bit, one's complement machines. The Ambilog had a beautiful console that used an IO Selectric. It was designed as a 2D vector graphics machine. Here's an image of the Ambilog 200: Ambilog 200 <https://d.lib.ncsu.edu/collections/catalog/ua023_024-001-bx0010-020-004#?c=…> The AGT/30 was a very advanced 3D vector machine. The XYZ signals for the display came from a 4 x 3 "hybrid" matrix multiplier which allowed for 3D imaging with Z axis depth cueing. The matrix multiplier was a 19 in rack of a dozen discrete 15 bit multiplying D to A converters. About once a year it had to be re-calibrated due to long term drift. Here's a link to an image of an AGT-30: Adage AGT-30 <https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwhat-when-how.com%2FTutori…> And here is it's 1.5 seconds of fame from the SciFi classic "Dark Star": AGT-30 das Blinkenlights <https://youtu.be/ocse-0bBfo8?t=3152> Anyway, it turns out he has quite a few of the source and backup tapes. Unfortunately they are 7 track 556 BPI. So the question is: is there anyone out there that can assist with either reading these tapes or (better yet) has a 7 track tape head we could buy? Our goal is to preserve this forgotten machine designed at the start of the computer graphics era. Writing a full emulator is our goal. I live in the Bay Area. Maybe those of you with connections to CHM could see if we could read the tapes on the 1401. Or maybe one of you has a 7 track driver in your junk file. All we really would need is the head and we could put it on an existing drive. As a last option, a commercial tape recovery vendor although that is probably too pricey. Thanks, Marc Howard

5 years, 4 months

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Motorola 12Xbug?

by cmhanson＠eschatologist.net

Does anyone know where to find Motorola 120bug or 12Xbug? I have an MVME121 but it has a third party ROM, not the typical Motorola boot ROM. (The 12Xbug manual would be handy too, of course.) -- Chris

5 years, 4 months

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MVME225 documentation

by cmhanson＠eschatologist.net

Does anyone have MVME225 documentation? I have one of these boards now and no docs for how to set the addressing jumpers/switches. -- Chris

5 years, 4 months

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When is a capacitor not JUST a capacitor (i.e., not just a filter or part of a resonant circuit)

by cube1＠charter.net

(And not acting as part of a resonant circuit) Answer: When it is acting like a little delay line. https://www.computercollection.net/index.php/2020/07/18/q-when-is-a-capacit…

5 years, 4 months

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Help identifying mystery Dataram VAX-11/750 (?) board

by derschjo＠gmail.com

Hi all -- Picked up a board advertised as a "4mb memory board" for a VAX-11/750. It's made by Dataram and I'm unsure of the model number, based on photos of it. I just noticed that rather than being a hex-height board that goes in the memory backplane, it looks like a board that goes in the main CMI backplane. It also appears to have 16mb of ECC memory on it, rather than 4mb. My thought is either (1) it's not actually for an 11/750 (in which case I'm curious what it would go into), or (2) it completely replaces the memory controller and standard memory and gives you 16mb in the 750. (Or it could be that it's something else entirely.) If anyone has any ideas or has a source of information, let me know. I put up a few pictures here: http://yahozna.dyndns.org/scratch/dataram/ Thanks as always, - Josh

5 years, 4 months

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Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller

by cctalk＠gtaylor.tnetconsulting.net

On 7/17/20 7:07 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > Yes, if you define it that way then clearly I agree. The thing is > that in most people's definition, "drive failure" means "the drive > is a door stop". Ya.... I've had too many "but the drive isn't a brick ... how could it be the failure" experiences to use that as my benchmark. Now, if the drive is not doing what it's supposed to do in any (reproducible) manner, I consider it a failure. Well ... almost any reproducible manner. > And in fact, hard read errors are normal. Every drive has a spec for > the probability of that happening, and given the per-sector failure > probability and the sector count, the probability of SOME sector > failing to read when you read the whole drive is nowadays somewhere > around 1. Ya. That's where the reproducibility of any given failure comes into play. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

5 years, 4 months

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Small C ver 1.00 source?

by wrcooke＠wrcooke.net

I'm trying to find source files for the very first, original, ver 1.00(?) small C compiler. I have the DDJ issue with the printed source (minus the assembly language runtime libs.) I have found all sorts of derivative works, but I haven't found files of the original version. My old eyes aren't up to typing in 13 pages of scanned copy of printed dot matrix listings. Does anyone know where a downloadable copy of these files can be found? Or have a copy they could send? Thanks, Will "A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery "The names of global variables should start with // " -- https://isocpp.org

5 years, 5 months

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interfacing DSI NC 2400 tape reader/punch

by billdegnan＠gmail.com

Is there a trick to archiving tapes to PC using Teraterm from a DSI NC 2400 reader/punch? Or is there a best software for this? From the terminal I can ctrl+Q to cause the reader to initiate a read of a test tape but I can't capture the output of the tape through the modem port of the reader into the serial port of my PC. I tried various things with settings. I was told it uses hardware flow control. The reader is set correctly as far as I can tell. I am using 2400/8/n/1 but I have tried other settings. I get no response from the terminal inbound at all. I am using a USB to serial interface that I know works with an RS232 modem, but it may not work with the reader. If so, I'd like to know if anyone has a similar experience. It may not be straight forward and I have to make a custom cable. I will keep at it, report if I find the answers. Bill

5 years, 5 months

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100p Cables

by grumpyx＠gmail.com

I ran across some 50 POS 100 C/L card edge ribbon cables 9.5' in length, AMP 1-583717-9 connectors on each end. It's 2 x 50 pin cables between the connectors. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1rjGLewB3J4fDJc5cTRgDwInAVjWz2dxx?us… Any good uses for such a cable? Anyone in need of some?

5 years, 5 months

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Dilithium Press (Computer Books)

by healyzh＠avanthar.com

Out of curiosity, does anyone know anything about this publisher? They apparently existed in the late 70?s and early 80?s. They were apparently located in Beaverton, Oregon in the same business park, on Nimbus, where Norvac Electronics was. They obviously published some very strange computer books, including what looks to be a teen romance. I find myself with an embarrassingly nice little collection of the books, that my Dad apparently had. Considering I think he touched a computer twice in his life, they?re something of a mystery. Best title, ?Nailing Jelly to a Tree?, which is apparently a book on Software. The publisher sounds vaguely familiar, and I think I might have one or two other books from them in my collection. Zane

5 years, 5 months

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Gotek Floppy Drive Emulators in general and as RX50/RX33 replacements

by bobsmithofd＠gmail.com

Two questions, 1. If anyone is using these devices, which firmware/software do you use in the device and why did you choose it? 2/ Is anyone specifically using one as a replacement or adjunct or and RX50 et al on a Pro, pdp11, uVax, DecMate, or Pro box, and same question set as 1? Yes, i picked up one, and looking at the capabilities, documentation first, and considering reflashing the beast to give more control of formats. TIA bob smith

5 years, 5 months

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Microfiche reader spotted in Longmont, CO thrift store

by cruff＠ruffspot.net

If anyone along the northern Colorado Front Range is in need of a microfiche reader, it was reported to me that a Micro Design model 4010 is sitting in the Longmont Community Thrift store. My source didn't notice a price. The condition is unknown, but it appears to be reasonably intact, and a cell phone picture from the front is available if you send me a message.

5 years, 5 months

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CDC CYBER 170 Consoles

by ccth6600＠gmail.com

I have been working on CDC CYBER 170 mainframes between 1977 and 1988. In 2002 I wrote an open-source emulator for the CDC 6000 and CYBER series (see my website http://www.control-data.info/). In 2013 I also developed the open-source VHDL firmware emulating the console controller for these systems. The firmware runs on a Xilinx Virtex 6 FPGA on a PCI Express (PCIe) board. The off-the shelf Xilinx board carries a small custom "piggy-back" board with 4 DACs and 4 op-amps to interface to a DD60or CC545 console. This PCIe board was used by Paul Allen's Living Computer Museum (LCM) in Seattle from 2013 onward in a PC running my 6000/CYBER series emulator to drive a real DD60 console. The CC545 has a very similar interface and my emulated controller would work with it too. For many years I have been trying to find one of these vector drawn CC545 consoles to use with my emulator but I haven't been able to find one. Recently I decided to build a clone of it myself. Bitsavers has a hardware manual with schematics: http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/cdc/cyber/cyber_170/62952600L_CYBER_170_Displa… The CC545 console achieved unusually fast deflection with an electromagnetically deflected CRT. I am trying to understand the tricks they used to get these high speeds. Part of the magic is a dual-yoke which provided gross positioning within 2 microseconds to anywhere on the screen using the first yoke (this is VERY fast) and then painted the character using a second yoke around that base position with 0.1 microsecond per stroke (this is VERY fast too). The two yokes work in an additive manner. The reason there are two yokes is that you need quite low inductivity/impedance to be able to drive the symbol vectors at 0.1 microsecond per vector with up to 24 vectors making up one character. The gross position yoke needs to create a large enough magnetic field to sweep across the entire screen so has a higher inductivity/impedance but the magnetic field has 2 microseconds to stabilise. The older DD60 console used electrostatic deflection which is much faster by its very nature. Traditional CRT oscilloscopes were all electrostatically deflected because of the speed advantage over electromagnetic deflection. The CC545 manual on Bitsavers has a good description of the circuits and schematics, but unfortunately Section 8 with the "Parts Data" has not been scanned. I really would like to know the types of transistors used in the 4 deflection amplifiers as well as the details of the dual-yoke and possibly the CRT data. It would also be very useful to see details of the design of the dual-yoke and possibly the inductivity of each of the coils. This dual-yoke is most unusual and very different from what is used in TVs, CRT monitors and even vector drawn games like Vectrex or early vector drawn Atari arcade games. Could somebody please help? Thanks Tom Hunter

5 years, 5 months

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cray unicos cds sold on ebay in 2016

by plamenspam＠afterpeople.com

Any clue who won this auction: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/cray-research-unicos-operating-syste… ?

5 years, 5 months

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A tool many of you may make find useful!

by dave.dunfield＠gmail.com

Continuing to let you all know about developments, I do expect that many of you are facing a similar problem - trying to condense and preserve a lifetime of "collecting digital stuff". The DFF utility has been very helpful, however once I started organizing my files, I realized that although there are a lot of duplication, much of it is was downloaded at different times and/or from different sites making much of it different, many vendors don't go out of their way to make file content/purpose obvious in the names, and many files are dependent on other files - so manually reorganizing the data is NOT always easy. The best solution I have come up with so far is to invent a new archive format designed to eliminate duplicate data but capable of recreating the entire original directory trees (or parts thereof). To that end I created the two utilities described below (now included in the web archive). -- yeah, I do seem to have a fair bit of spare time on my hands these days... ;=BDA - Build Dave's Archive ;=EDA - Extract Dave's Archive Dave's Archives contain the smallest possible representation of a complete directory tree: - Only one copy of the data for duplicate files is stored. - Duplicate filenames are stored only once. - Path information is stored only once per directory, and only additions to a path are stored (adding/removing from last path). eg: Starting with a large DIR of support files for one of my systems. This has duplicates and a lot of pre-compressed install files: 314 dirs, 930 files using 3,762,691,033 bytes. Just "ZIP"ing it I get: SysSupt.zip 3,352,081,951 bytes 7zip does a bit better: SysSupt.7z 3,245,871,362 bytes Running BDA, I get: SysSupt.DA1 9,404 bytes and SysSupt.DA2 1,912,855,711 bytes Big improvement, but no compression yet, using ZIP and 7zip I get: SysSupt.zip 1,636,965,417 bytes and SysSupt.7z 1,609,663,862 bytes And YES, using ZIP/7zip to extract the .DA's, then EDA gives me a directory with exactly the same content that I started with. Like my other tools, these can deal with BIG directory trees, and the output file format is well documented should you ever want to recover the files by other means. Sorry if I've not responded to messages here, tend not to follow the list directly much these days due to the high content, but you can always reach me through the link on my site - might take me a few days to respond, but I do get to it from time to time... Dave -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Personal site: http://dunfield.maknonsolutions.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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TM848 repair?

by brain＠jbrain.com

Anyone on list repair or rehab Tandon TM848 drives?? I have a 4 or so of the slimline drives from some Tandy Model 12/16b units that don't seem to spin at all, and I've hooked them up to the same PSU that a TM848E successfully runs on, so I am guessing it's not a PSU issue. (Though, my understanding of 8" drives is extremely minimal, so...) If I could get just 2 of them working, that'd put a few 12/16b units back in operation. Jim -- Jim Brain brain at jbrain.com www.jbrain.com

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Sun E250, NVRAM edit? (Serial Speeds, no console, etc)

by ethan＠757.org

Hello, I have an E250 Sun that belonged to a friend that passed away around 2008. It was colocated at a colocation office I had running in Virginia Beach. I pulled it out of storage, and would like to check if his public website is archived on it. Archive.org only has bits of it. Odds are low since it wasn't the main server, but worth a shot. I tried the usual Serial port A, but all I get is garbage. Tried all the common baud rates I could think of. If it's switched to diag mode, the diag stuff comes across in 9600bps. I tried the RSC port, it wants a password. Don't know it, didn't see anywhere online on how to reset it. I tried hooking up a console. Finally get the power brick in for the Samsung 770TFT LCD monitor I've held onto (it has 13w3.) At first it wasn't working. Tried both Type 5 and type 6 keyboards attached. No console. I found by removing the NVRAM, it will finally throw console. But no keyboard input. Stop-A, nothing. If I shove the NVRAM back in while it's running it immediatley goes black. Anyone know if the NVRAM strings are stored in plaintext in the NVRAM IC? If I were to dig out all the hardware that should be able to dump that chip is it something that is human readable / editable? I've done the coin cell hack on them before, but from memory the keyboard worked and it wasn't a big deal to do program in replacement MAC. But this is different, I need options removed. I'm thinking this thing has values in the NVRAM that are turning off the console and doing something funky to the serial baud rate. Or perhaps the baud rate in Solaris is set to something funky. - Ethan

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Lear Siegler ADM-2?

by jacksonharrington22＠gmail.com

Hi everyone, I?m currently looking for a Lear Siegler ADM-2 terminal to purchase from someone for use in a future short film I?m creating. Afterwards I?d house it in my personal museum. If anyone has one or you know someone who owns one and could be interested in selling, let me know. I?d pay very well. I could also do a trade, I have quite a few rare terminals in my own collection. I?m familiar with old computers and know how to work around them, it could be in any condition. It would be in good hands. You can also Email me at jacksonharrington22 at gmail.com Thanks.

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HP 16C Badge (logo)

by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

This is not exactly vintage computer, but it is very close. A friend just gave me an HP 16C calculator in excellent, working condition, EXCEPT the 16C badge (or logo if you prefer) is missing. I seem to recall that, some years ago, someone on this list knew of a source for replacements but I can't find it in the archive. So, I'll ask, does anyone know where to get a replacement 16C badge? Thanks, Bill S. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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mid-80's DECUS newsletters and proceedings

by aek＠bitsavers.org

I've started to scan a box of them that I've had sitting around since the 00's http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/decus/confProceedings/ I just uploaded the first one (Spring 1985)

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cray unicos cds sold on ebay in 2016

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

> > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 15:17:06 -0400 (EDT) > From: Ethan O'Toole <ethan at 757.org> > Subject: Re: cray unicos cds sold on ebay in 2016 > > I have Unicos 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.2 but when I boot it I get a kernel > panic. Seems to be around drivers for ATM. My system has a lot of HIPPI > interfaces, no ATM. > > Am also interested in finding other copies of J90 Unicos. > > - Ethan > The RICM has 8.0.2.2A and 8.0.3.3 on DAT. -- Michael Thompson

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In search of 4B3A Microswitch Keyswitches (for a restoration, not a keyboard collector!)

by ian.finder＠gmail.com

I know what you guys are thinking- no, this isn't for a keyboard collection or some modern build or some other nonsense like that. I have a friend who is restoring a fairly interesting and historically significant vintage computer- a and subject to what appears to be a batch-related encapsulation failure on the proprietry hall effect sensors, but could have been some other trauma, around a little over half of them are bad. The correct SD-series replacement switch would be the 4B3A- *** These can allegedly be found on some of the Diablo printing terminals.** It is possible other switches ending in ***A could be made to work with a bit of labor and disassembly (swapping the fairly brittle sensors). I am not a keyboard expert but I have learned that you can remove a key on some of these microswitch keyboards and read the model fairly easily. Please let me know if you have a lead on a donor for these switches. They will be put to good use, and you can reply to me off list for more details. Thanks, - I

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VCF Midwest Cancellation

by silent700＠gmail.com

We regret to announce... There will be no VCF Midwest this year. The conditions imposed upon us by the CoViD-19 pandemic and related government regulations, as well as a depressed expected turn-out figure, will make it impossible for us to host an event of the size and quality our dedicated fans have come to expect. Thus today we have terminated our 2020 contract with Waterford Banquets and the Clarion Inn hotel. We recommend cancelling your hotel and travel reservations, if you have made them, and we hope that you have not been too greatly inconvenienced by our change of plans. We also wish to express our thanks for the many responses we received to our survey sent back in May. Your feedback was informative, interesting, humorous and most of all, essential in helping us make the right decision about this year's show. The good news is that we have an excellent relationship with our host venue and have already locked in our contract for 2021. Although a long way off, plans will take shape early next year for that show, so please keep an eye out for further announcements of VCFMW 16 (or will it be 15b? We don't know yet!) Also, following the lead of other cancelled festivals, we are considering a Virtual VCFMW to be held on one or more of the dates allocated for this year's show (Sept 12 or 13, 2020). If we think we can pull off something half as entertaining as the real thing, maybe we'll do it. Watch your email for announcements sometime in August. Your humble(d) organizer - - jason If you would like to repost this message in your own forums, feel free to do so by using this link: https://us18.campaign-archive.com/?u=6d177060bd4511e27d05266a5&id=02ddfacc10

5 years, 5 months

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About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)

by julf＠julf.com

Hi! I have a box full of Compaq SCSI server disk caddies (with 9.1G disks in them). Feels silly to dump them into e-waste recycling, but there probably isn't much point in shipping them very far either (I am in Amsterdam). Julf

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RK11-D "diskless" test ZRKJE0???

by bob＠jfcl.com

? I have an 11/04 with an RK11-D.? I have a couple of RK05s, but I wanted to test the controller before I start working on the drives.? The PDP11 Diagnostic Handbook says that ZRKJ?? "checks only the drive-independent logic of the RK11 controller. no drive is needed..."? I assumed that meant it was a diskless test, but now I'm not sure that's true.? Can anyone confirm or deny this? Does anyone have a listing of ZRKJE0? ? My RK11-D has the BC11 drive cable plugged into the backplane, but the free end of the cable is just lying on the floor.? No drive is connected.? The test fails with ??? RK11 LOGIC TEST I ??? MAINDEC-11-DZRKJ-E ??? REGISTER NOT CLEARED ??? ? PC?? REGADD??? RECVD ??? 002560? 177402? 100000 ?177402 is the RKER register and bit 15 is DRE - "Drive Error". According to the manual this bit is set when the AC power to the drive is lost, which given that I don't have a drive at all, doesn't sound unreasonable.? Continuing ZRKJ?? also gives ??? REGISTER NOT CLEARED ??? ? PC?? REGADD??? RECVD ??? 002560? 177404? 140200 ??? RKCS ERROR ??? ? PC??? WROTE?? READ ??? 002636? 000002? 140202 177404 is the RKCS register and the first two bits are ERROR and HARD ERROR.? These are both set by the DRE bit in RKER and aren't really a surprise. ? I'm starting to wonder if this diagnostic really works w/o a drive attached, or if these errors are expected. Thanks, Bob

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Entrex 480 / Digital Computer Controls 116 in New Jersey.

by mattislind＠gmail.com

I just happen to see this auction: https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/86804138_entrex-480-vintage-computer-e… Looks like three systems. One marked Entrex 480 the others look like the DG Nova clone DCC 116. On top there seems to be a Diablo printer of some sort. Some rust, indeed. In New Jersey. Then there another auction for several Diablo drives at the same location: https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/86804145_sweda-750-computers-and-vinta… Also a stack of DG like cards and a core memory board, likely DG or DCC. Not in best condition but probably worth rescuing. Maybe someone in NJ area that want it? /Mattis

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IBM System/36 5360 For Sale - Alabama

by skynet＠wans.net

I recently found an IBM System/36 5360 for sale, with 5251 Terminal and Keyboard. System is supposed to be in good running condition, taken out of service in September 2019, single owner. Asking price seems to be about 10k (!). Anyone interested should go to this link: Vintage 1979 IBM 5251 Beam Spring Mechanical Keyboard 7361073 System 36 34 | Almost Anything - And then use the chat feature on the webpage - the owner will respond to you with info on the system. I have no relationship with this seller, just wanted fellow collectors with interest in "Big Iron" to know it is available. Stan Irwin

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Ancient transistor ?computer board (Peter Van Peborgh)

by peter＠vanpeborgh.eu

OK, now here are some pics that should be available to everybody. I hope. https://photos.app.goo.gl/h64tye8ecmPHQfJD7 Smells of (early) 1960s transistorized. No helpful marking apart from * "GATE JJ01" on SIDE A. (components). * "C NT OL DATA" on side B (solder traces). Big transistors are Motorola "180376008". Also, any ideas what the "246 636 B" boxes are, they have four legs? A curse on TinyURL and praise to Camiel Vanderhoven. peter

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Amiga - AmiFast 3000

by healyzh＠avanthar.com

Anyone have any experience with these? When I installed in around ?97 or ?98, it just worked. Now I?m seeing 0 bytes of Fast Ram on my Amiga 3000, I just see 2MB Chip RAM. I don?t even know if I can boot a base AmigaOS 3.1 with Video and Ethernet drivers. :-) Zane

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IBM System/36 5360 For Sale - Alabama

by skynet＠wans.net

Sorry. Looks like the link did not transfer. Try www.almostanythingopelika.com to get to the site. Stan

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gunkies.org (computer history wiki) domain expired

by kspt.tor＠gmail.com

Registry Expiry Date: 2020-07-03T15:46:18Z Anyone in touch with Tore? Noel?

5 years, 5 months

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About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)

by julf＠julf.com

Hi! I have a box full of Compaq SCSI server disk caddies (with 9.1G disks in them). Feels silly to dump them into e-waste recycling, but there probably isn't much point in shipping them very far either (I am in Amsterdam). Julf

5 years, 5 months

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Original HP MPE and HP-UX install tapes

by steerex＠ccvn.com

Hey, Digging around I found some more stuff that I had forgotten about. Note these are the original, HP 9-track, 1/2 inch, 1600 BPI, tapes. They are NOT copies. All had been stored indoors in a climate controlled environment and should be 100% readable. Some of the reels are 600 ft, some are 1200 ft, some are 2400 ft. -- HP-PA support for the series 800 tapes 1/2 and 2/2 P/N 82436-13500 REV A.B8.00 DATE CODE 3113 support format -- -- HP-UX 8.0 INSTALL HP9000 HP-UX Series 800 tape 1/1 P/N 82436-13509 REV A.B8.00 Date Code 3113 Install format -- -- MPE/V Release 40 Patch for the HP 3000 P/N 32033-10469 tape 1/1 NMSTORE FORMAT -- -- MPE/IX COBOL 5.5 COMP. for the HP3000 6250 BPI MNSTORE FORMAT tape 1/1 P/N B3845-10007 REV A.10.25 -- -- MPE/IX COBOL 5.5 RTS. for the HP3000 6250 BPI MNSTORE FORMAT tape 1/1 P/N B3847-10007 REV A.10.25 -- -- MPE/IX COBOL 5.5 DEV. for the HP3000 6250 BPI MNSTORE FORMAT tape 1/1 P/N B3843-10007 REV A.10.25 -- -- MPE V Release 3P FOS Tape tape 1/1 SYSDUMP format P/N 32033-10452 REV G.3P.00 Date Code 3419 -- -- MPE V RELEASE 40 for the HP3000 Turbo update tapes 1/2 and 2/2 P/N 32033-10461 and PN/32033-10462 REV G.40.00 TU Format (I don't think you can boot this format) -- -- HP9000 Series 800 CUSTOMIZED HP-UX CORE and SUBSYS Tapes 1/3, 2/3, and 3/3 Release 0800 VUF A.B8.00. UPDATE Format I think the customized label is because I had ordered these tapes from HP many years ago. Since support had expired, the additional software that's on the tapes does not require passwords to install. As I recall, the tapes include HPBASIC, COBOL, FORTRAN, RPG, and possibly some other programs. I could be wrong so don't hold me to it. -- -- MPE V Release 3P for the HP3000 SUBSYS TAPE Store FORMAT Tapes 1/2 and 2/2 P/N 32033-10455 Rev G.3P.00 Date Code 3419 -- Feel free to make an offer but, as with my other stuff, I am not giving them away. I suspect these are pretty rare so, be generous with your offers. Because of packing and shipping, I'd prefer to see all of them go to one place. See ya, -- Steve Robertson steerex at ccvn.com

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More DECnet/E items

by jonas＠otter.se

On 2020-07-02 19:00,jwest at classiccmp.org wrote: > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 12:51:42 -0500 > From: <jwest at classiccmp.org> > To: "'Paul Koning'" <paulkoning at comcast.net>, "'General Discussion: > On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>, "'Tony > Nicholson'" <tony.nicholson at computer.org> > Subject: RE: More DECnet/E items > Message-ID: <001801d64fd0$47911290$d6b337b0$(a)classiccmp.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > ---------- > Nice. I looked at fixing RT11 RTS applications like MACRO, but that's not > possible because the RT11 date format stops in the early 21st century (5 bit > year field). Perhaps RT-11 has created a solution, but if so I don't know > it. > ---------- > > It was my understanding that Jerome Fine did y2k fixes (commercially) for > rt11 years ago. Is he still around the list? > > J Apparently Jerome Fine has not posted anything since July 2016. I believe he is/was retired and fairly old, it might be that he is deceased.

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Has anyone Intel Preview periodicals from 79 on to scan?

by rdbrown0au＠gmail.com

The Wikipedia page for Intel 8086 references the Intel Preview periodical, specifically these issues. Intel Corporation (May?June 1979).? Intel Preview Intel Corporation (January?February 1980). Intel Preview Intel Corporation (May?June 1980).? Intel Preview (Special Issue: 16-Bit Solutions) These don't seem to be available on the Net. They don't seem to be on BitSavers or in the Computer History Museum collection. Worldcat shows one issue available in the University of Catalonia library - not these issues. If someone has copies of these issues or more, scanning them for bitsavers would be great, if that is possible. Universitat Polit?cnica de Catalunya?? UPC?? Barcelona, 08034 Spain https://cataleg.upc.edu/search/?searchscope=1&searchtype=h&searcharg=(ocolc… Title ??? Intel preview Imprint/production ??? Santa Clara, CA : Intel Corporation, 198?-1981 Description ??? il.; 28 cm Current Frequency ??? Bimensual Note ??? Descripci? basada en: (nov.- dec. 1980) Subject ??? Microordinadors -- Revistes Added Author ??? Intel Corporation Continued By ??? Solutions Library??? ETSEIB - D709 Holdings??? (1980 N6-7) The "Solutions" periodical continuing "Preview" is in more libraries (according to WorldCat), so it's possible that "Preview" is bound with "Solutions"? somewhere. https://search.lib.utexas.edu/discovery/fulldisplay?docid=alma9910245442697… Title:? Solutions. Uniform title:? Solutions (U.S. ed. : Santa Clara, Calif.) Related titles complete edition : Solutions (European ed. : Santa Clara, Calif.) Later title : Microcomputer solutions (U.S. ed.) Publisher: Santa Clara, Calif. : Intel Corp., -1987 -Sept./Oct. 1987. Edition: [U.S. ed.]. Format v. : ill. ; 28 cm. Notes Edition statement supplied. Description based on: Mar./Apr. 1983; title from cover. Genre Periodicals. Subject Microcomputers Intel Corporation Contributor Intel Corporation. Identifier LC : sn 88003659 ISSN : 1041-8547 OCLC : (OCoLC)10331599 Type: Journal Creation Date:? -1987 Frequency:? Bimonthly

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Location of ARPANET Protocol Handbook or its successor, online

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> hyperlinked in; I'll do the RFCs later. Also, it's missing a few TELNET > entries, I'll add them later too. All done. Also, I remenbered that Dave Walden made the three main ARPNET papers availalble online recently, so I added links to them on the 'ARPANET Technical Information' page. I highly recommend those to anyone who wants to know more about the details of the ARPANET's operation; they're really good. Noel

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MVME332XT documentation?

by cmhanson＠eschatologist.net

I?ve acquired a couple of MVME332XT (plus port panels and cabling) and was surprised to find that there?s very little documentation online, only a few references for setting up the board as part of specific systems. And a driver for it in OpenBSD 5.5?for their mvme88k platform only, because for some reason they don?t share drivers between all the VME platforms. Does anyone have scanned or printed documentation for the MVME332XT? How about document number MVME332XTFW, about the 332?s firmware? ? Chris Sent from my iPad

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Location of ARPANET Protocol Handbook or its successor, online

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> I will create a page which lists the contents of the APH .. I'll email > the list with the URL once I get it up. OK, it's at: http://mercury.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/arpaprot.html I'll link to it from all the usual places (e.g. the 'ARPANET Technical Information' page) later. The main protocol documents are hyperlinked in; I'll do the RFCs later. Also, it's missing a few TELNET entries, I'll add them later too. > it's bound and 1/5" thick Old typo - 1-1/2". Noel

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HP MPE and HP-UX Install Tapes

by steerex＠ccvn.com

Hey Guys, Digging around I found some more stuff that I had forgotten about. Note these are the original, HP 9-track, 1/2 inch, 1600 BPI, tapes. They are NOT copies. All had been stored indoors in a climate controlled environment and should be 100% readable. Some of the reels are 600 ft, some are 1200 ft, some are 2400 ft. -- HP-PA support for the series 800 tapes 1/2 and 2/2 P/N 82436-13500 REV A.B8.00 DATE CODE 3113 support format -- -- HP-UX 8.0 INSTALL HP9000 HP-UX Series 800 tape 1/1 P/N 82436-13509 REV A.B8.00 Date Code 3113 Install format -- -- MPE/V Release 40 Patch for the HP 3000 P/N 32033-10469 tape 1/1 NMSTORE FORMAT -- -- MPE/IX COBOL 5.5 COMP. for the HP3000 6250 BPI MNSTORE FORMAT tape 1/1 P/N B3845-10007 REV A.10.25 -- -- MPE/IX COBOL 5.5 RTS. for the HP3000 6250 BPI MNSTORE FORMAT tape 1/1 P/N B3847-10007 REV A.10.25 -- -- MPE/IX COBOL 5.5 DEV. for the HP3000 6250 BPI MNSTORE FORMAT tape 1/1 P/N B3843-10007 REV A.10.25 -- -- MPE V Release 3P FOS Tape tape 1/1 SYSDUMP format P/N 32033-10452 REV G.3P.00 Date Code 3419 -- -- MPE V RELEASE 40 for the HP3000 Turbo update tapes 1/2 and 2/2 P/N 32033-10461 and PN/32033-10462 REV G.40.00 TU Format (I don't think you can boot this format) -- -- HP9000 Series 800 CUSTOMIZED HP-UX CORE and SUBSYS Tapes 1/3, 2/3, and 3/3 Release 0800 VUF A.B8.00. UPDATE Format I think the customized label is because I had ordered these tapes from HP many years ago. Since support had expired, the additional software that's on the tapes does not require passwords to install. As I recall, the tapes include HPBASIC, COBOL, FORTRAN, RPG, and possibly some other programs. I could be wrong so don't hold me to it. -- -- MPE V Release 3P for the HP3000 SUBSYS TAPE Store FORMAT Tapes 1/2 and 2/2 P/N 32033-10455 Rev G.3P.00 Date Code 3419 -- Feel free to make an offer but, as with my other stuff, I am not giving them away. I suspect these are pretty rare so, be generous with your offers. Because of packing and shipping, I'd prefer to see all of them go to one place. See ya, -- Steve Robertson steerex at ccvn.com

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Location of ARPANET Protocol Handbook or its successor, online

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Will Senn > I know some of y'all were there (Noel) I'm you're huckleberry (sort of; I didn't work on building the ARPANet, but I built a number of boxes which were attached to it, later). > I'm looking for the ARPANET Protocol Handbook I have a hardcopy; the January 1978 version. (No, I can't scan it; it's bound and 1/5" thick, and I don't wish to dwestroy it to scan it - but see below). > by Feinler, E. and Postel, J. They were just the editors; most of the content was written by others. It contains a whole raft of individual documents, most of them RFCs, and some "NIC"s - similar documents available through the NIC, but generally only in hardcopy form (like the earliest RFCs). Many of the most important non-RFC ones are available here: http://www.chiappa.net/~jnc/tech/arpanet.html at the bottom of the page. I will create a page which lists the contents of the APH, since I gather it doesn't seem to be online. I'll email the list with the URL once I get it up. Any that are important, and not otherwise available online, I can scan; I've done one (NIC 29588) in the past. > If it's been superceded and the successor is available There were _successor_ documents, like the IPH, but they covered entirely different material. There likely was more then one version of the APH, as inididual documents in it were added/modified; I have no confirmatorion on that, though. Noel

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Location of ARPANET Protocol Handbook or its successor, online

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Steve Shumaker > NTRL has 3 published versions listed with two available as pdf downloads; > https://ntrl.ntis.gov/NTRL/ Good find! The ADA052594 one is the one I have. The other one has older versions of some things. So I won't need to scan anything; but I will put up a machine-readable TOC. Noel

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Internet Archive and robots.txt

by a.carlini＠ntlworld.com

When I try http://www.openvms.digital.com/openvms/os/openvms-release-history.html in archive.org I get the usual: "Sorry. This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine." That's supposed to be because robots.txt prevents spidering so the Internet Archive takes down the pages (even if they were previously available, it seems). But digital.com is back and if you go far enough down https://digital.com/about/ you'll see that they know where the domain came from. So if whoever now controls digital.com could be persuaded to ask, would the Internet Archive allow those digital.com pages back out into the open again? (I'm asking here because I think there's at least one person on this list who might be able to provide a reasonably authoritative answer). I did happen to notice that dec.com is back too ... Antonio -- Antonio Carlini antonio at acarlini.com

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Location of ARPANET Protocol Handbook or its successor, online

by will.senn＠gmail.com

Hi, If this is off-topic, my apologies, but I know some of y'all were there (Noel), so I'm hoping it's close enough to on-topic to garner a successful response. I'm looking for the ARPANET Protocol Handbook by Feinler, E. and Postel, J., published by SRI back in the day (revised edition 1978) in an online format (pdf preferably, but anything readable is fine. I came across the reference in RFC 790 - Assigned Numbers. If it's been superceded and the successor is available, that would probably work, too. Although, I prefer the earlier works for concision. Regards, Will -- GPG Fingerprint: 68F4 B3BD 1730 555A 4462 7D45 3EAA 5B6D A982 BAAF

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Hp 21mx loader rom set

by grant＠klyball.com

Hi all, i am looking for a loader rom set for my 21mx and does not seem to be around at the usual places, I am hoping to find a leed. Here is what i am in need of. 12992L consisting of 12992-80011 91740-80070 91740-80071 91740-80072 there is a set of 91740 on bit savers but with a suffix of 67-69 ? any help would be appreciated. Thanks Grant

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Arcnet cards and lost emails!

by new_castle_j＠yahoo.com

Hello Rich, I tried emailing you directly, but I don't think you got my message. I'm still here and looking for some ArcNET cards if any have turned up in your closet. Thank You, Jonathan >Hello all, > I had a HDD failure and I lost all of my emails going back 3 years. >There was a gentleman that was looking for Arcnet cards. Could you >please recontact me? >GOD Bless and Thanks, >rich!

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UUCP on macOS / *BSD

by cctalk＠gtaylor.tnetconsulting.net

Does anyone have any experience with UUCP on macOS or *BSD systems that would be willing to help me figure something out? I'm working on adding a macOS X system to my micro UUCP network and running into some problems. - uuto / uucp copy files from my non-root / non-(_)uucp user to the UUCP spool. But the (demand based) ""call (pipe over SSH) is failing. - running "uucico -r1 -s <remote system name> -f" as the (_)uucp user (via sudo) works. - I'm using the pipe port type and running things over an SSH connection. - The (_)uucp user can ssh to the remote system as expected without any problems or being prompted for a password. (Service specific keys w/ forced command.) I noticed that the following files weren't set UID or GID like they are on Linux. But I don't know if that's a macOS and / or *BSD difference when compared to Linux. /usr/bin/uucp /usr/bin/uuname /usr/bin/uustat /usr/bin/uux /usr/sbin/uucico /usr/sbin/uuxqt Adding the set UID & GID bits allowed things to mostly work. Aside: Getting the contemporary macOS so that I could edit the (/usr/share/uucp/) sys & port files was a treat. I figured that it was worth inquiring if anyone had any more experience / tips / gotchas before I go bending ~> breaking things even more. Thank you. -- Grant. . . . unix || die -- Grant. . . . unix || die

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More DECnet/E items

by tony.nicholson＠computer.org

Hi Paul, Thanks for posting some Y2K fixes and enhancements for DECnet/E under RSTS/E. I've also used the Bitsavers source files for RSTS/E V10.1 to fix a Y2K bug with handling RT-11 Y2k3 dates by the FIT program. Are you interested in including my patched FIT.TSK for RSTS/E along with your fixes. I could also provide my modified BASIC-Plus source code to FIT too (but releasing this too may have copyright limitations). Also I remember seeing a Y2K patch kit from Mentec for RSTS/E V10.1 on a TK50 tape. I don't have a copy of it - but I think it also had some additional Y2K fixes. You wouldn't also have some of these too? Thanks in advance. Tony -- Tony Nicholson <tony.nicholson at computer.org>

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HP 21mx computers For Sale

by steerex＠ccvn.com

Forgot to add. I also have a HP 12979 I/O extender that I'll part with. See ya, Steve Robertson steerex at ccvn.com

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UUCP on macOS / *BSD

by cctalk＠gtaylor.tnetconsulting.net

On 6/28/20 6:48 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: > Does anyone have any experience with UUCP on macOS or *BSD systems that > would be willing to help me figure something out? I ended up getting this to work. I don't know if it was a macOSism or a *BSDism, but the root of the problem was crossing between users via setuid / setgid in relation to OpenSSH. Two different versions of macOS behaved differently. macOS Yosemite 10.10.5 runs the underlying ssh pipe command as the user account that initiates the uucp / uuto / uux. macOS Catalina 10.15.15 runs the underlying ssh pipe command as the _uucp user, NOT the account that initiates the uucp / uuto / uux. As such, on macOS Yosemite 10.10.5, I have to have the normal user's ssh public key in the authorized_keys file on the remote system. Conversely, on macOS Catalina 10.15.15, I have to have the _uucp user's ssh public key in the authorized_keys file on the remote system. I don't know why macOS Yosemite 10.10.5 and macOS Catalina 10.15.15 are behaving differently, but they are. These inconsistencies made identifying which client ssh config file -- nominally ~/.ssh/config -- was used cumbersome. For some unknown reason, I couldn't rely on "~/" or defaults to specify the _uucp user's key (Identity) file or the known_hosts file on macOS Catalina 10.15.15, despite the fact that it was running as the _uucp user. I ended up having to hard code the paths, as they were defaulting to the original user account that initiated the uucp / uuto / uux. I can only surmise that something is fundamentally different between Linux and macOS in how it does things when changing user accounts via setuid & setgid as I did not have any of these problems on multiple Linux machines. I can further surmise that something is different between macOS Yosemite 10.10.5 and macOS Catalina 10.15.15. I don't know if this is related to System Integrity Protection or something else. -- Grant. . . . unix || die -- Grant. . . . unix || die

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HP 21mx computers For Sale

by steerex＠ccvn.com

Hey guys, I was a regular poster and reader on the list many years ago. During that time, I collected a few HP computers and Tape drives and a bunch of other "junk". Well the time has come for me to unload some of the equipment and I'd really like it to go to someone that has an appreciation for what is it. Currently I have 6 HP 21mx computers and about 30 I/O cards to move. I also have 4 7980 (or similar) auto-loading tape drives. They are top loading with HPIB interfaces. I also have a HP 9000 800/F20 computer that dual boots HPUX 10.20 or HPUX 11.0. from a SCSI array. It has ethernet, HPIB, and SCSI cards. It been a few years since I powered up this stuff. Everything has been stored indoors in a clean environment so I expect it to be fuctional. As far as I can tell everything is in EXCELLENT condition! This stuff is located in western North Carolina not far from Asheville. Because of the size, this would require local pickup. I do not have the means or inclination to ship. Notice I am not giving them away but will consider reasonable offers on any single item or multiple items. If interested, please contact me directly. Thanks, Steve Robertson steerex at ccvn.com

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by pechter＠gmail.com

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Bringing up MVME 197LE (88k)

by ryan＠hack.net

Anyone have experience with the Moto 88k VME boards? I have an MVME197LE that I?m trying to bring up but it?s staying in BRDFAIL, while SYSCON and RUN are green and pressing RESET appears to work. Nothing on console at all. (via a 712 transition module) Same behavior with the NVRAM removed. I do have the mezzanine card which has stayed affixed with an interesting inter-board connection. (Is this separate-able? Should it function without this DRAM?). I?ll dive deep into debugging this, but if anyone has some tips or experience they could share it would be appreciated! Thanks! -Ryan Brooks ryan at hack.net

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IBM System/370 turns 50 years old

by kylevowen＠gmail.com

Happy birthday to the 370! Looks like it was released to the press on 30 June 1970. https://www.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_PR370.html Kyle

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IDE-SD adapter question

by w2hx＠w2hx.com

Hi all, Thanks for previous help on this project. I am working on an old 486 computer and I have replaced a 40 pin IDE hard drive with this SD adapter... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07G29TZPS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01… In general it seems to mostly be working. I can see a directory listing of several thousands files located on a 2GB SD card from yesteryear. The SD card was new when I installed it (has been in my possession for years). However, I do get errors "sector not found" and if I A)bort I get INT 24 error. I am trying to get windows 95 installed and this is certainly preventing that. In the BIOS settings I have the hard drive set as "USER" and these parameters: CY:[1024] HD:[16] ST:[63] LZ:[1024] WP:[0] These were the parameters in use while I was still using the actual hard drive. Question 1: Now that I am using an SD card instead of an IDE drive, what, if anything, should I be doing with these BIOS parameters? Question 2: The BIOS has an option to format the hard drive. Should I format the SD card using this facility? I did not explicitly put a filesystem on that SD card. I placed it in a windows 7 machine, it was recognized, and I began copying files to it. I then place the SD card into the 486 machine where I saw the sector not found errors. Any advice how to proceed? Thanks Eugene

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FS: Video Toaster partial system

by jplist2008＠kiwigeek.com

A person on Reddit picked up what appears to be part of a Video Toaster and is interested in getting it to someone who can actually use it. I offered to pass on the message- The system is in a PC case, with two full-height 5.25" Seagate SCSI disks and a third-height 3.5" IBM SCSI disk, plus an optical drive and two 3.5" floppy disk drives. There's a standard-looking AT power supply and a (looks like) passive 16-bit ISA bus that has a single card in it which matches a NewTek TBCii "Time Base Correction" board. Pictures here: https://imgur.com/gallery/lqmRz6i They do want money, but not much, although shipping might be a bit steep for a case of this size and with the weight of the PSU and two full-height disks. I am not sure of their location, I got the impression (possibly wrongly) they were US based. eMail address is: shishkebarbarian at gmail.com I have no affiliation with the seller and all information is derived from the images taken, so do please contact them directly. - JP

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A tool many of you may make find useful!

by dave.dunfield＠gmail.com

>Downloading http://dunfield.maknonsolutions.com/dos/sw/ddw2020.zip >gets flagged by Windows Defender on Windows 10 Pro (1909) >as "Worm:Win32/Spybot". A new tool now available on the site: Daves Distribution File Checker I have received reports that Windows Defenfer incorrectly lables some of my executables as naughty. I assure you this is not the case when published. They are freshly compiled from my own/known source code on a secure system. To help you know files are exactly as I uploaded then and not compromized in transit, I created this tool. It uses a proprietary/unpublished algorithm and multiple encrypted CRCs to validate that a file is exactly as I published it. The tool which makes the database will never be distributed in any way. You can check a complete .ZIP archive or individual files from it. The archive does not have to be present for DDFC to check individual files, but you do have to specify it so DDFC knows which file to reference in it's database. This program and it's database are self protecting, but can't insure they don't get replaced by something that looks the same without providing the protection. To help avoid this, I will reload this file every time I update my site. Dave -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Personal site: http://dunfield.maknonsolutions.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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DZ11 EIA dist panel on eBait

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224058116598 Noel

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DEC H-500 re-creation on Instructables

by wrcooke＠wrcooke.net

Thought this might be of interest: An instructables project to recreate the DEC H-500. https://www.instructables.com/id/DEC-H-500-Computer-Lab-Reproduction/?utm_s… Will

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Zenith MinisPort laptop memory issue?

by rickards＠gmail.com

Hi All, I'm restoring a Zenith MinisPort laptop, an 8088 based laptop with a monochrome screen and 2" floppy drive. I have a Twitter thread of the restoration so far with pics: https://twitter.com/paulrickards/status/1272280795529519105 I recapped the internal power supply board which seems to be working well now. The next issue appears to be memory. The unit won't store the BIOS settings properly, even with new lithium batteries or warm restart. In the BIOS menu, setting the clock with a "0" changes to "32". Same with the date, if you set the day or month, it adds 32 to it. The internal memory test reported a memory error at B800:0000 bit 5. This seems to coincide with the BIOS "0" turning into 32 on screen. When it eventually boots from the internal MS-DOS 3.3 ROM, it looks fine until the screen starts to scroll. The character case of all text on the screen changes from lower to upper case. Anyone know how to map a bit 5 error to a component on the motherboard? Would a memory map help here? Longshot: anyone have a service manual for the Zenith MinisPort ZL-1 (or ZL-2)? Thanks, Paul Rickards biosrhythm.com

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Bringing up MVME 197LE (88k)

by rshepprd＠gmail.com

A few of the self-tests I?ve seen on the 147s set BRDFAIL if the NVRAM doesn?t pass, so perhaps changing the NVRAM for a known good would be a place to start. Richard Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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On: raising the semantic level of a program

by sieler＠allegro.com

Hi, Not hardware ... but an antique software / programming concept. Some decades ago (circa late 1970s?), I *think* I came across a concept of "raising the semantic level" of a program by using defines/macros and newly written library functions. The concept was that a given language provided a particular level of semantics. By judicious/clever use of things like macros, one could "raise" the level of semantics, effectively appearing to add new features to the language (or, in this case, the instance of the language as used in the program). I *thought* I got that concept from Terry Wingrad's excellent "Breaking the Complexity Barrier again" (Nov, 1974, https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/951761.951764 ) ...but, no. It's not in that paper. Does the concept ring a bell? Can anyone provide a pointer to where I might have seen it? It's formed the basis of my own personal programming philosophy for nearly 50 years, and I want to know where I found it, or if I might have thought of it myself. thanks! Stan

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RSTS/E has just had its 50th Birthday...

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Peter Dick > As I expect you know, RSTS was 'born' on 11th June 1970 as shown when > you print DATE$(1%) ... > This means RSTS/E, the Greatest Operating System ever, has just turned > 50 years old. Err, I expect that that was RSTS-11 in June, 1970, not RSTS-E. Since RSTS-11 (which I learned to program on; happy memories :-) was a BASIC-PLUS only system, and ran on a PDP-11/20, I suspect it was a fairly different operating system (although no doubt it's BASIC-PLUS interpreter was ported to RSTS-E). I think RSTS/E needed the -11/45, introduced around June 1972; sources give 1973 for RSTS/E. Noel

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RSTS/E has just had its 50th Birthday...

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Peter Dick > Question: how do the three of you (Noel) cctalk at classiccmp.org and Paul > Koning fit together? CCTalk is a mailing list for people who collect antique ('classic') computers; Paul and I are both members. I collect PDP-11's (I used them in school from '72 to '76, and worked with them from '77 to the mid-80's). Jay West, who maintains the list, forwarded your email query about RSTS/E to the list. (Paul you can find in the RSTS 80th birthday spoof, BTW.) Noel

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Mame vt100 emulation. Cool

by 821＠128.ca

https://zork.net/~st/jottings/Real-VT102-emulation-with-MAME.html FYI.

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