Good point. The collection is located in the Kansas City area.
- MM
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 2:36 PM, steven stengel <tosteve at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Everyone will want want to know the same thing - where is it located?
> Thanks-
> Steve.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Mike Maginnis <mmaginnis at gmail.com>
> *To:* cctalk at classiccmp.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 7, 2014 12:23 PM
> *Subject:* Large collection of items available
>
> Delurking for a brief announcement:
>
> I was recently contacted by an individual whose deceased relative was a
> long-time computer professional, as well as hobbyist.
>
> The individual asked me to help disseminate the bulk of the relative?s
> collection, which numbers in the hundreds of items, including CPUs,
> software, documentation and associated peripherals.
>
> I've been helping the individual catalog and list everything. A small
> sampling of the items:
>
> a Hero Jr. robot
>
> Kaypro 2000
>
> an AT&T PC that she describes as a "UNIX computer"
>
> stuff from Cromemco, Apple, Wang, Microsoft, DEC (manuals only), Tandy,
> Texas Instruments, etc.
>
> I know this isn't very specific, but there's too much to list here
> individually.
>
> Here's a link to a Microsoft Word document on my Dropbox of everything
> available. The individual is looking to sell, rather than donate:
>
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12135838/Available%20Items%203-3-14.docx
>
> Please contact me off list and I'll put you in touch with the seller and
> you can negotiate privately.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
Hi everyone,
I just wanted to send a brief little message out to (re?)introduce myself
to the group... I was one of the earlier contributors to the original
classiccmp list maybe 15 years ago but I drifted away from the list and
computer collecting in general ca. 2001-2002 as I got busier with my
university studies and I had accomplished most of my collecting goals.
One engineering degree, a successful IT career and a starter home later...
I've put down some roots, got a house of my own... perfect time to gather
up all my big heavy things and bring them home :) I figured it would be fun
to chat with some other folks who are still in the hobby. I left my
collection in the hands of some folks that I shouldn't have and it suffered
some losses over the years... maybe I can do some wheeling and dealing here
to recover some of what I'm missing?
My main focus in collecting is mostly old minis and "workstation" class
hardware. I like to play with SGI, NeXT, DEC Alpha, DEC VAX, DEC PDP,
Motorola MVME boards of all types, 68k Macs and to a lesser extent, Sun
SPARC equipment.
I'm mostly looking to pick up a few Q-bus and Unibus boards... I'm trying
to finish up a complete board set for a KA650-based Qbus VAX (anyone got a
few 16 MB MS650s or a Q-bus SCSI card at a reasonable price?), and I need a
RX01/02 controller for my PDP-11/34a. I'd love another DEC BA23 at some
point to mound said complete KA650-based boardset... I used to have three
very nice BA23s in my inventory... one perfectly filled out uVAX III... all
were lost :(
I'm mostly looking to trade or sell some miscellaneous parts for SGI, NeXT,
Apple and maybe to a lesser extent, DEC.
Excited to be back!
Best,
Sean
I have about 12 various models of Mac G4 towers. These were used for audio
recording and art production and were being tossed. Before I spend the time
to see what all is in each machine and their conditions I wanted to see if
there was any interest in the systems. If not I won't bother with them as I
have samples in my own collection already.
Be aware they are rather heavy for shipping. Systems are located in Houston,
TX.
David
www.trailingedge.com
I have the following dug out and starting to be in my way. If you have any
interest, please contact me off list. Shipping from 61853. There may be a
few typos.
LeCroy boards
3 2323 Prog Dual Gate Gen
1 3500-6D
1.
1 3500-10
1.
1 3500-11
1 3500-12
1 3501 controller
2.
4 3551 DDIB
2 3553A splicer
1 4418 delay
4 4508 PLU
3 4508 Dual 8 x 8 PLU
2 4516 logic
1 8591 latching scaler
Thanks, Paul
I have now completed layouts for a PCB for the MFM disk reader and emulator
that I mentioned back in February. I will add to my order boards for others
who are interested. I am not planning to kit or assemble. You will
have to do that yourself.
For information on the board see
http://www.pdp8online.com/mfm/
Email me if you have any comments or questions.
I did two different layouts, one all through hole and one with 3 surface
mount chips that has some minor advantages. See link above for discussion.
I plan to only order one version.
If you are interested in a PCB's email me with
1) How many you wish
2) If you prefer or are only interested in the through hole or surface mount
version.
Unless you state I don't need to I will email you back when I get ready
to order with the final price for confirmation that you still wish them.
I plan to collect money when I am ready to ship them.
The cost to make one is:
Beaglebone $55 (they increased the flash by 2G and the price by $10)
PCB $30 (depends significantly on quantity)
Parts $54. Can reduce by $24 if you don't need the holdup capacitors.
See the BOM for parts and prices. See description of board for what
the holdup capacitors do.
TBD Shipping
Unless only a few are desired I will likely buy a couple cheap PCB's without
the hard gold on the edge fingers to verify I haven't made a serious error.
This will delay final order. I tried to get my cat to peer review but it only
shredded the paper.
I watched about 3 minutes. Pure garbage.
Halt and Catch Fire is not a real computer instruction that caused a race
condition that made the computer stop working. I imagine a bunch of
teenagers are scouring Intel technical manuals looking for the Code 2 Duo
equivalent of HCF.
No one looked, acted, or talked like that back in the early 1980s (I
remember, I was there). Especially not IBM sales people.
If you could find a chick anywhere that looked 1/4 as cute as the chick in
the opening scene and who knew as much about computers, you were either in
the future, watching a bad 2014 television drama, or you were someplace
private by yourself with your pants down lost in your imagination.
I'm sure I could come up with more criticisms if I could deaden my senses
enough without taking out critical life functions to watch the rest.
Unfortunately, this program was designed for the braindead, technically
illiterate cultural group that comprises television watchers generally.
Whoever wrote this knows a computer collector. However, based on the
level of comprehension of the subject matter that gets incorporated into
the script, the writer probably only likes the computer collector in as
much as they can get fodder for their crappy TV scripts.
If any Hollywood people are reading this and want to make a good
historical computer based drama or movie (it's been all downhill since War
Games), you know how to contact me.
--
Sellam ibn Abraham VintageTech
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I was there in the late 70s and early 80s. I absolutely enjoyed the first episode and looked at it like the beginnings of Compaq. The legal restrictions on reverse engineering were close enough.
The sets and wardrobe were obviously well thought out and seemed familiar to me. I enjoyed them immensely. I loved seeing those old computers.
This is a great opportunity to engage an audience outside of our close knit community. So many people lived through the time if not as profoundly as we did. How can this show be a bad thing for us?
Sellam continues to be a prick about anything related to what he feels is his claim to computer history. I see his post as fishing for some piece of the action. It included a plea for the producers to call him and smacked of sour grapes for not being consulted.
For my part, I am disgusted by anyone who would make a value judgement about physical appearance especially related to technical competency. It is a completely subjective evaluation and has no place in this discussion.
We should relax and enjoy the first major impetus for remembering and collecting this past.
IMHO.
Kurt
V7.1 of Ersatz-11 is done. New features include:
- DMP11/DMV11 network ports.
- DDCMP over TCP and UDP (as well as serial lines).
- Kermit client for transferring files in and out of the PDP-11 over any
emulated serial line (KERMIT command and KERMIT: pseudo-driver).
- "MOUNT ddcu: BAD: /LIST:badblks.txt ..." adds fake bad blocks (from a
list in a file) to any disk (for testing PDP-11 utilities).
- "MOUNT ddcu: ... {/NOPAD | /PAD:NULL | /PAD:RAM}" selects how to handle
emulating disks with an image file (or physical drive) that's smaller
than the drive being emulated. (/PAD:RAM is currently an experimental
feature and may have bugs -- it's intended for systems that use the tail
end of the drive as swap space.)
- DPDISK: and DPTAPE: (BOTH UNSUPPORTED) set up dual-ported disks and tapes.
Any disk or tape type can be mounted on one of these pseudo-devices, after
which units 0 and 1 of the pseudo-device represent the two ports which may
in turn each be mounted on different PDP-11 controllers, presumably on
different processors of a multi-processor system. Unsupported, as I said,
just like all mP features.
- "SET TTu: DL11A" (needed by DOS/BATCH for TT0:).
- "SET PCLOG n" enlarges the number of logged PC values that can be shown
with SHOW PCLOG.
- New native "SYS" utilities for Linux, OS/2, and Windows, for making disks
(or flash drives) boot the stand-alone version of E11. The Linux and
Windows versions try to notice if a drive (e.g. USB flash card that came
pre-partitioned) hasn't been made "active" and/or is missing the MBR
bootstrap, and fixes it (may require privs). If anyone can please tell
me what sys calls in OS/2 will find out which physical drive owns a FAT
volume given the drive letter, I'd appreciate it!
- The stand-alone version's bootstrap supports USB drives (including flash).
Also there's a bootable CD, but since there's currently no ATAPI dev
driver or ISO9660 FS driver, it can't install E11 onto a hard drive, and
it requires a FAT volume to hold .DSK files etc. So it's more of a proof
of concept than something useful (but it's an easy way to try out the
stand-alone version of E11).
Bug fixes and tweaks as usual (sorry about that .TAP seeking thing in V7.0!).
As usual, the Demo version can be downloaded from:
http://www.dbit.com/demo.html
Updates have been mailed to commercial users with current subscriptions.
John Wilson
D Bit
Thank you to everyone who has responded so far.
Let me clarify a little - Marty and I are looking for a list of computers
>from about 1971 and earlier (1977 at the latest, but the real focus is on
the 1960s) that had the capability of playing Spacewar. We've had reports
of a few different machines running it, but obviously there are going to be
a lot of gaps in oral history. Having a list of machines with displays
(CRT, vector, or other) would help identify where some of those gaps might
be.
Here are all the machines we've had reports of Spacewar on them:
1. PDP-1
2. PDP-4
3. PDP-6
4. PDP-7
5. PDP-8 (probably text-based version)
6. PDP-10
7. PDP-11
8. LINC-8
9. DEC-10
10. HP59825 desktop calculator
11. 544 ARTW/Trajectory Division
12. PLATO
13. DDP-224
14. IBM System/360 (IBM 2250 Model 1 display) or 2250-4 (a 2250/1130
Model 4)
15. CDC-3100
16. Data General NOVA
17. IMLAC PDS-1
18. Virtual Machine Facility/370 (VM/370)
Note some of these have multiple versions created in different locations
independently.
1972 is a key date because that's when PLATO went on the ARPANET, and
software could be more widely distributed. This was also the first year
that Spacewar was written for a home computer in BYTE Magazine. 1977 was
the release of the arcade version and publication of a version for the
Altair 8080.
Want to clarify that we're not looking for home computer releases, unless
maybe you have examples earlier than 1977.
> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 05:08:41PM +0100, Dave wrote:
> >
> > If you are talking 1960's I think the real answer is "not much". I
> There was quite a bit actually. The LINC, LINC-8, PDP-1 and
> PDP-12 all had vector displays. There was also an add-on for the
> original PDP-8 and PDP-6, display 340 or something like that.
> These are all DEC of course, Martin might be interested in the
> TX-0 from MIT unless it's out of scope.
> /P
Guys I bought an Amiga with over 7,500 Pirated Amiga Warez Disks And
Demos, you name it its on these disks.
Just looking to sell them cheap to someone outright who will archive
them and post them online for everyone. Like 250 dollars for the
entire lot cheap. And they will ship media mail even cheaper
On 06/01/2014 08:48 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
> I've got a PDT-11/150 and would like to get something I can boot on it.
The PDT-150 is (almost?) identical to the MiniMINC. I made some floppy
images from my disk set (.IMD):
http://fjkraan.home.xs4all.nl/comp/miniminc/floppyImages/
Fred Jan
Hi All,
I have a small collection of PDP8's and PDP11's in Adelaide South Australia.
The group is made up of a PDP 8/L, 2 X PDP 8/E's, 2 X PDP 8/F's, a PDP
11/10, a PDP 11/20, and a PDP 11/44. The 8/L is bare but the rest have
RK05's except the 11/44 and an 8/F with floppies. Their purchase was
arranged by me in the 1970's and they have been given to me by the
School of Psychology at the University of Adelaide. They have been
stored in an air conditioned environment since purchase.
A couple of years ago when I began to think about disposing of this
equipment my ambitions were quite small and I thought I would just put
them up on ebay and see what happened. Since then I have looked at the
computers more closely and with the assistance of the former engineer
involved at the time we have put 3 of the computers back in operation.
As far was we can tell the PDP 8/L runs trivial programs, the PDP 8/F
with floppies runs OS/8, and one of the PDP 8/E's runs the processor OK
but the Plessey disk (RK05 look alike) didn't boot (but we'll fix that).
Currently the former engineer is a lecturer in Computer Science and has
expressed an interest in one of the PDP8's in a running state as an
exhibit in his office. I may keep the 11/44 but we need to dispose of
the rest, eventually, and in a running state.
We think we will put up the 8/L for sale first. The package consists of
the 4K PDP 8/L, a BA08 Expansion Box containing a KV8/L controller, a
Tektronix 611 display and a 1250VA DEC Autotransformer to run the 115V
8/L system in the 230V land of Australia, and associated documentation.
The PDP 8/L powers up and the fans and power supplies check out. Memory
addresses can be examined by auto incrementing through memory. Data can
be deposited in memory. Trivial programs seem to execute and switches
seem to perform their intended function (allowing for a little
intermittent functioning after 30 years stasis). I believe both the PDP
8/L and the KV8/L controller can be functioning systems.
I know there is an international market for this equipment but is there
anyone or any group in this country (Australia) that we might give
advance notice of an intention to sell this sort computing equipment?
Let me know if you are interested or want further information
(bob.willson at adelaide.edu.au).
Regards,
Bob.
--
Bob Willson Phone : +61 08 8272 3659
School of Psychology Fax : +61 08 8303 3770
University of Adelaide Email : bob.willson at adelaide.edu.au
Adelaide, South Australia 5005 CRICOS: 00123M
I?m interested in two boards. Don?t care either through hole or surface mount.
Thanks
Chris Coley
On Jun 2, 2014, at 8:26 AM, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 14:43:00 -0400
> From: David Gesswein <djg at pdp8online.com>
> To: cctech at classiccmp.org
> Subject: MFM reader emulator
> Message-ID: <201406011843.s51Ih0iM023208 at hugin2.pdp8online.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> I have now completed layouts for a PCB for the MFM disk reader and emulator
> that I mentioned back in February. I will add to my order boards for others
> who are interested. I am not planning to kit or assemble. You will
> have to do that yourself.
>
> For information on the board see
> http://www.pdp8online.com/mfm/
> Email me if you have any comments or questions.
>
> I did two different layouts, one all through hole and one with 3 surface
> mount chips that has some minor advantages. See link above for discussion.
> I plan to only order one version.
>
> If you are interested in a PCB's email me with
>
> 1) How many you wish
> 2) If you prefer or are only interested in the through hole or surface mount
> version.
>
> Unless you state I don't need to I will email you back when I get ready
> to order with the final price for confirmation that you still wish them.
> I plan to collect money when I am ready to ship them.
>
> The cost to make one is:
> Beaglebone $55 (they increased the flash by 2G and the price by $10)
> PCB $30 (depends significantly on quantity)
> Parts $54. Can reduce by $24 if you don't need the holdup capacitors.
> See the BOM for parts and prices. See description of board for what
> the holdup capacitors do.
> TBD Shipping
>
> Unless only a few are desired I will likely buy a couple cheap PCB's without
> the hard gold on the edge fingers to verify I haven't made a serious error.
> This will delay final order. I tried to get my cat to peer review but it only
> shredded the paper.
>
>
Hi,
i recently got a MAI Basic Four 210 from the Netherlands. The CPU now
powers up, have not yet tried the 14" Piram harddisk.
I would like to know if the CPU is working. It seems to be based on a
microdata 1600 but equiped with dram and cmos ROMs.
The machine has switches were it can be set to boot standard/alternate
>from disk, tape or from a serial terminal. Since
the tape drive has a capstan roller transformed to liquid and i have not
yet tested the disk i would like to know how to
boot from a terminal.
I have not yet read the microcode proms nor have i checked if they are
soldered or on sockets.
Does someone out there have access to the cpu manuals that are stated in
the service manual ?
1300 CPU Technical Manual, Document No. SM 1200
M1300 Series CPU Organisation and Description Reference Manual
Pictures from the machine are here:
http://www.ardiehl.de/basicfour/mai210/pics/small/
and the manuals are on bitsavers in pdf/mai, the service manual also
contains the cpu schematics, the ones for the tape
controller and the disk controller are included in the tape / disk
service manuals.
What do you think are the chances to get the disk up and running. (since
i have no tapes of other software)
All seems to be stored dry, no rust, nor a lot of dirt in the machine.
Seemd to be powered on the last time more than 15 years ago.
----------------
Gr?sse
Armin Diehl
ad at ardiehl.de
Looking for the pcmcia (pccard) drivers for IBM Ethernet II Credit Card
adapter and IBM Home and Away 14.4 Modem/Ethernet drivers...
Looking to set up classic Win3.1 and OS/2 on an old 760 laptop.
Bill
--
d|i|g|i|t|a|l had it THEN. Don't you wish you could still buy it now!
pechter-at-gmail.com
I don't know if the way I did it on my 486 box would work on a 286, but I simply looked up the spec's
to my compact flash device on google and simply treated it like a hard drive.? I then installed MS DOS via
floppy disks onto the CF card pretending it's a hard drive.
HTH,
Christopher.
Hey guys, we're on the next phase of our paper we're presenting at a
conference soon and are hoping to collect a listing of 1960s era mainframes
and minis that had CRT displays available for them. We're obviously already
aware of the various DEC models released in the 60s that had them, but
we're looking for other brands now.
If you guys would be so kind to help us out (since we're in a bit of a time
crunch) and share the following, it would be awesome!
Computer maker and model:
CRT maker:
Dot, vector, or character display:
Thanks!
--
Marty
I have this vague memory that back in the day, any well-equipped computer operator would have a tool in the desk drawer which trims the end of a mangled magtape to a nice, neat curve. Do I actually remember that, or did I make it up? As I get older, my imagination is getting better than my memory, and it's getting a lot easier to vividly remember things that never happened.
If such a tool exists, I want one!
I recall another little tool (and I think I still have one somewhere) that was a give-away from the Sun User's Group. It was a little pocket-clip screwdriver with a flat blade on one end, a hex key for VME card mounting screws on the other, and "SUGtool" or something like that marked on the side.
One of our printers in the computer room that I worked in at UCI in the late 1980s had a tool sitting about for punching the carriage control tapes for one of our old line printers. We had separate printer queues for letter sized and wide format paper, both pointing at the same printer. One of the operator's jobs was to frequently stop one queue, change the control tape loop and the paper in the printer, then enable the other queue.
Write rings were littered all over the place, naturally. And then there was the suction-cup tool for lifting the raised floor tiles.
What else might be found in the operator's desk drawer or sitting around the computer room?
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net>
http://www.nf6x.net/
Hello all,
I got some RC25 drives and a big pile of cartridges.
Beside of only some few drives most of them are showing the typical symptoms of these drives, the seal between the tubing on the back side of the drive has gone to goo. There is a now a gap and just powering on the drives would result in a head crash without doubt.
Since the drives in question had been powered down in working conditions long ago, the gooeing occurred later on, so there could be a chance to bring back them into life if there would be a solution to fix this issue.
Were there any successful attempts by members of this list to solve this issue?
Andreas
I just received an EOL notification for the Chicago Miniature CM7370 bulb.
These bulbs are used in the DEC PDP-8/I front panel and others as a
replacement for the Oshino OL-1.
--
Michael Thompson
I still have my Sort Verifier tool. A long slim piece of metal for
verifying that all the cards in a card deck had a hole punched in the same
place on all the cards. I also have several IBM connectors for the 407
Accounting Machines that allowed a signal from one connection to be sent to
two different connections. I have both the grey and orange connectors. The
IBM name is on the connectors, but there is no name or markings on the Sort
Tool. I should have saved a couple of 407 connection wires (there were many
different sizes and colors), but I didn't..
Bill
IBM famously introduced its CKD disk file format in the 60s; did anyone else
(other than IBMs clones including RCA) support such a disk format?
Specifically a disk format with a block (record in IBM terms) having a
variable length key field (including 0 length) and a variable length data
field. To the best of my knowledge everyone else used a fixed block (sector
to most) size on a disk volume but my knowledge of most of the BUNCH is
limited.
Tom
Hello!
I'm looking for an old linux for Power Mac - MkLinux.
Versions:
1) R2rc3 (Better Late than Never, March 2004)
2) R2rc4 (Clean Up on Aisle Four!, August 2004)
Could somebody have an *.ISO Image of that?
I close on my house in 6 weeks, All this needs to go, I will not have
room in the new place
Woz Edition Complete IIGS with monitor, keyboard, mouse and drives. $150
dollars
Commodore 128 with boxes and accessories $200 dollars
Amiga 2000HD with accelerator GVP SCSI, RAM Card and CD-ROM $500
Sun Cycle 5 CPU upgrade $50 dollars
Sun Sparcstation 5- $20 dollars
Thinkpad 390E $50 dollars runs openstep
Thinkpad 760ED $40 dollars Runs OpenStep
Mac Mini Core 2 Duo $200 4GB RAM/120GB HDD
PCMCIA CD-ROM for Amiga 1200 $20 dollars
Macintosh 512k with Apple HD20, This is an aldus asset tagged machine $300
Original Apple II, Rev 6 with 9inch B&W Security Monitor and disk II
drive $500
Clearing out
Heres a minty Commodore 128 bundle
Everything is in its original boxes in pristine condition and it all
works flawelessly, Comes with 1902A monitor, 1750 REU New in box,
OkiData Printer, 1571 Drive. Lots of software and games. Even a
floppy notcher. $300 dollars plus shipping from 49601
http://imgur.com/a/tjzTC
Next up is a Woz edition Apple IIGS, It is in great condition, ROM 01,
with 1.25MB RAM
Comes with Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse, Joystick 5.25 drive and 3.5 drive.
Good Starter IIGS System. This is in clean condition
Asking $200 dollars plus shipping from 49601
Prices are Or best offer or trade for interesting amiga gear
Clearing out more stuff
Stock Woz Edition Apple IIGS with 1MB RAM Expansion, Monitor, Keyboard,
Mouse, 3.5 drive, 5.25 drives, Joystick and Imagewriter II, All for
150 dollars or best offer.
Mint Commodore 128 System in original boxes
Includes a 1902 Monitor, REU, 1571, Okidata printer, Lots of disks,
cables and accessories
All for $350 dollars or best offer
Thanks
Steve
Hi,
i recently got a MAI Basic Four 210 from the Netherlands. The CPU now
powers up, have not yet tried the 14" Piram harddisk.
I would like to know if the CPU is working. It seems to be based on a
microdata 1600 but equiped with dram and cmos ROMs.
The machine has switches were it can be set to boot standard/alternate
>from disk, tape or from a serial terminal. Since
the tape drive has a capstan roller transformed to liquid and i have not
yet tested the disk i would like to know how to
boot from a terminal.
I have not yet read the microcode proms nor have i checked if they are
soldered or on sockets.
Does someone out there have access to the cpu manuals that are stated in
the service manual ?
1300 CPU Technical Manual, Document No. SM 1200
M1300 Series CPU Organisation and Description Reference Manual
Pictures from the machine are here:
http://www.ardiehl.de/basicfour/mai210/pics/small/
and the manuals are on bitsavers in pdf/mai, the service manual also
contains the cpu schematics, the ones for the tape
controller and the disk controller are included in the tape / disk
service manuals.
What do you think are the chances to get the disk up and running. (since
i have no tapes of other software)
All seems to be stored dry, no rust, nor a lot of dirt in the machine.
Seemd to be powered on the last time more than 15 years ago.
----------------
Gr?sse
Armin Diehl
ad at ardiehl.de
--
----------------
Gr?sse
Armin Diehl
ad at ardiehl.de
I have this Xerox 820-II computer and keyboard, but no drives. It boots-up to the selection menu, does not respond to either of the two keyboards I have.
Is this worth anything to anyone?
Steve in Southern California 92656.
Clearing out more crap
Mac mini Core 2 Duo 2.0ghz 4GB RAM 120GB HDD comes with Mavericks
installed and a Mini displayport to HDMI adapter
$300 shipped in the USA
Sun Cycle 5 CPU Upgrade, Turns a 1+ into a 170Mhz TurboSparc that can
run OpenStep/NextStep. Included is a 1+ case missing its lid and power
supply
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ with 2GB RAM 320GB HDD- Wiped clean ready for
your OS. Decent machine just dont have a use for it $100 dollars plus
shipping takes it home
New in box Lantronix UDS-10 $40 dollars
Thank you for the lists. That's exactly the kind of document we were
looking for.
Although I don't see why there's any need to get so cranky about it. :-/
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 10:13:15 -0700
> From: Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org>
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Listing of 60s mainframes/minis with CRT displays?
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> On 5/27/14 10:05 AM, Richard wrote:
> > I'm sure there are many more, but my most easily accessible sources
> >
> http://bitsavers.org/topic/graphics
> I've done a ton of research on this topic. I have no intention of doing
> this person's homework for them, though. If he's too lazy to use the
> the trail of breadcrumbs I've put down, screw him.
Does anyone have a copy of the original ?Macintosh Basic? that they?d be willing to share?
What I?m looking for is the version of Basic that was written by Donn Denman et al. at Apple in 1985 or so ? have a look at http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=MacBasic.txt if you don't know the story.
Beta copies were widely available in the user-group community at the time, but Apple ?cancelled" the project before it officially shipped; I recall having a copy myself in early 1985, but I can?t find the disk.
I?ve done some searching online, but it appears not to be available in the usual places.
Feel free to contact me off-list.
Thanks very much,
Rob Ferguson
rob at bitscience.ca
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Newtech Computer Systems Inc. Model 68 sound
Custom 6820 board
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Notes: Untested, minor cosmetic restoration, some scuff marks on either
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Photos:
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Heathkit H11A (S/N 03009)
Configuration:
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Hi!
I acquired a DataGeneral. The label on the back says Model 10,20,30.
I powered it up and noticed white smoke. It looks like a RIFA capacitor
burn, since the fan kept spinning and the smell was the RIFA one.
Do you have a link on some PDF infos?
I'd tear it apart without breaking something.
I checked the cards and they looks OK, so the HD, floppy drive and tape.
The two PSU modules are tied to something on the back.
Plastics seem a bit fragile, so I'm acting carefully :)
Thanks!
From: "Ian S. King"<isking at uw.edu>
>
> >
> >I've no doubt that women were in the minority in the computer biz in the
> >1980s (as they remain today). I do take umbrage with Sellam's
> >supposition that there were no women at all with technical knowledge
Kathleen D. Morse wrote much of the unit-record IO drivers for
VMS, and then maintained them for some time. They must have
started the VMS project in about 1975 to get the machine ready
to sell in 1978. I know Kathleen was there for quite a
while before
that, I THINK she was on the cover of one of the minicomputer
handbooks from DEC. I spent quite some time reading her code
when hacking printer drivers and such. If you searched the
VMS source code for her initials "KDM" I'm sure they appeared
many thousands of times on patch ID lines.
Jon
The username field in the archive is of the form used on CDC Cyber computers running NOS or KRONOS.
University of Illinois was big on CDC machines.
I bet it is some kind of archive format used on CDC machines to create tapes that could be interchanged with other types of systems, e.g. IBM.
I wish I could remember more detail from my Cyber operator days, as I do vaguely remember that there was a utility that we ran to create takes in a format that the big IBM systems on the business side of the company (Tektronix) could read.
Please excuse top posting, my phone won't let me post any other way.
Rick Bensene
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From: Chuck Guzis [cclist at sydex.com]
Received: Friday, 23 May 2014, 1:00PM
To: General at bensene.com [General at bensene.com]; Discussion at bensene.com:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts [cctalk at classiccmp.org]
Subject: Re: Question about SIMH .TAP files
On 05/23/2014 11:22 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
> The 4th word looks like the sort of usernames that University of
> Illinois inflicted on its students (derived from student ID numbers).
Good catch--the tape's from UIUC.
--Chuck
My RK05's are acting up again. They first acted like this when I was
bringing them up after a 30 year nap. The symptom then was that one of the
Maindecs for disk testing would complain that it couldn't write because a
CE disk was in the drive! (Which brings up the quesiton: Why would it
think that? Is there a wire on the disk interface bus that is pulled down
when a either a CE disk (how??) or else the disk alignment suitcase is
plugged in?)
Anyway, now that I can run RKUTIL I have a new problem that just happened
this weekend. I can no longer select option 4 (read/write test). It
simply reprints the prompt, no error message at all! I assume this is the
CE present problem rearing it's ugly head again. RKTUTIL worked fine up
until this weekend.
Anyway, I'd like to look at the RKUTIL source but can't find it anywhere.
Does anyone have a pointer to this?
Also, if anyone knows what triggers the CE present condition I'd like to
know about that too.
Thanks,
Marc
Hi,
i recently got a MAI Basic Four 210 from the Netherlands. The CPU now
powers up, have not yet tried the 14" Piram harddisk.
I would like to know if the CPU is working. It seems to be based on a
microdata 1600 but equiped with dram and cmos ROMs.
The machine has switches were it can be set to boot standard/alternate
>from disk, tape or from a serial terminal. Since
the tape drive has a capstan roller transformed to liquid and i have not
yet tested the disk i would like to know how to
boot from a terminal.
I have not yet read the microcode proms nor have i checked if they are
soldered or on sockets.
Does someone out there have access to the cpu manuals that are stated in
the service manual ?
1300 CPU Technical Manual, Document No. SM 1200
M1300 Series CPU Organisation and Description Reference Manual
Pictures from the machine are here:
http://www.ardiehl.de/basicfour/mai210/pics/small/
and the manuals are on bitsavers in pdf/mai, the service manual also
contains the cpu schematics, the ones for the tape
controller and the disk controller are included in the tape / disk
service manuals.
What do you think are the chances to get the disk up and running. (since
i have no tapes of other software)
All seems to be stored dry, no rust, nor a lot of dirt in the machine.
Seemd to be powered on the last time more than 15 years ago.
Armin
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> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 00:05:43 -0700
> From: Josh Dersch <derschjo at gmail.com>
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
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> Subject: Re: Catch and Halt Fire - Drama set in early days of personal
> computing
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> On 5/26/2014 11:03 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
> > On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Josh Dersch <derschjo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, it's insane to think that someone could be intelligent *and* female
> >> *and* have fashion sense at the same time.
> >> God forbid, especially in this industry.
> >
> > I'm reasonably certain that Sellam was talking about how things
> *actually*
> > were back in the early 1980s, not how they should have been, or how they
> > might be now, or how we might want the early 1980s portrayed in 21st
> > century television programs.
>
> I've no doubt that women were in the minority in the computer biz in the
> 1980s (as they remain today). I do take umbrage with Sellam's
> supposition that there were no women at all with technical knowledge (or
> if there were, they were all apparently ugly) -- this is demonstrably
> untrue and it seems an odd point to bring up as a criticism of the show
> (I mean, it has so many other flaws that he didn't even see, since he
> admits to only watching 3 minutes of it...). Were there are lot of
> women in the industry? No. Does the show have a woman in it? Yep. Is
> this particularly unrealistic? Nah.
>
> (Really, I'd like to give the show a chance; I feel like I'm
> experiencing what every doctor or lawyer goes through when watching a
> medical or legal drama on TV or in the theater...)
>
> At any rate, just me spouting off my mouth when I ought best have said
> nothing at all :).
>
> - Josh
>
> >
> > As with most generalizations, perhaps Sellam's wasn't 100% accurate, but
> it
> > was damn close. Unfortunately.
> >
>
>
Yes, I remember the early 1980s and working in a small shop that did
primarily what we would now call embedded systems with 6800
microprocessors, but also some larger business systems based on
minicomputers. We had a very attractive young woman who did programming on
the business stuff, and we insensitive males referred to her (out of her
earshot) as "software". She dressed well, she was sweet and friendly (and
obviously, tolerant!) and she could code.
Back further, in the 1970s there was a young woman in my FORTRAN class I
dated briefly. She was also on the high school swim team, and I started
attending meets. :-)
Yes, things were more gender-imbalanced than they are today, but making any
gender-based assumptions (appearance, fashion sense, etc.) about the women
who *were* involved in the industry is not particularly useful, meaningful
or accurate. As I remember things....
--
Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS
Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School
University of Washington
Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.
I've been reading the SIMH TAP file specification and there's something
that's not clear to me. Perhaps someone can volunteer their knowledge.
I've got a tape where about half the records (blocks) are an odd number
of bytes long. The SIMH document says that a block is padded to an even
number of bytes in this case. However, it doesn't say if the record
length (32-bit) word is adjusted to reflect this--or if the byte count
is rounded up to the nearest even byte.
It seems to me that the former would be the way to go, but I'm not sure.
If the latter course is taken, the information that the block is an
odd number of bytes long is gone.
Does anyone know for certain?
Thanks,
Chuck
> Interesting Minis with displays...
There are a lot listed in the Communications of the ACM journals.
Taking a random May 1967.....NCR 315 family, SDS (Sigma 7,5), Burroughs 500,
Univac 1108...at least to get an idea of what systems look like so you can
hunt down the terminal/vector/display types.
Don't forget plotters and terminal printers. What percent used these as the
primary display? Or is that not what you want?
Bill
I unpacked a nice vt330 this morning, and I'm trying to find some demo REGIS/sixel files I can send the terminal to show off the graphics hardware.
Thanks in advance.
From: Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at Update.UU.SE>
> There was quite a bit actually. The LINC, LINC-8, PDP-1 and
> PDP-12 all had vector displays. There was also an add-on for the
> original PDP-8 and PDP-6, display 340 or something like that.
>
>
No, they were point displays, no capability to draw a vector.
The LINC, LINC-8 and PDP-12 at least had character generators
that would draw a 2 x 6 grid of dots from a 12-bit word. Two
of those grids would draw a 4x6 dot matrix character on the
screen. So, a character could be drawn with a small number
of instructions.
Jon
On May 26, 2014, at 11:36 PM, Chuck wrote:
> Ted Sturgeon really did have it right.
I?m always reminded of Young?s corollary: ?111% of crap is everything."
- Mark
From: Martin Goldberg<wgungfu at gmail.com>
Hey guys, we're on the next phase of our paper we're presenting at a
conference soon and are hoping to collect a listing of 1960s era mainframes
and minis that had CRT displays available for them. We're obviously already
aware of the various DEC models released in the 60s that had them, but
we're looking for other brands now.
Don't forget the LINC, a major feature was the character
display.
It could also display limited graphics (due to CPU speed) and
waveforms. The early LINCs were made with DEC parts, but
were assembled by grad students at a summer session.
We had a PDP-5 which had a very similar system on it that
was apparently
made by DEC, or at least it seemed to be factory-made.
Jon