I have the following 5-1/4" Drives that I would like to get rid of. These
have all been working at one time or another, but I have no idea what
condition they are in now.
Maxtor EXT 4330
Seagate ST4766N
Hitachi DK516-12
Maxtor XT-8760E
Maxtor XT-4170E
I also have the following QBUS cards to part with.
Module Number Part# Description Form
QBUS Extender D
M7504 DEQNA Ethernet D
M8043 DLV11 4xSLU D
M8043 DLV11 4xSLU D
M7941 DRV11 16 Bit Parallel D
M8186 KDF11 11/23 CPU D
M8186 KDF11 11/23 CPU D
M8189 KDJ11 11/73 CPU D
M8192-YB KDJ11 11/73 CPU D
M8192-YB KDJ11 11/73 CPU D
M8047 MXV11 ROM/RAM D
M7555 RQDX3 D
M8029 RXV21 RX02 Controller D
M7646 TQK50 Tape Controller D
M8044-DB Memory 16K 32K? D
M8044-DE Memory 16K 32K? D
DATARAM 63010 Q
Camington CMX1651 Memory Q
M7606-AF KA630 CPU Q
M7620-AA KA650 CPU Q
M7620-BA KA650 CPU Q
M7164 KDA50 SDI Controller Q
M7165 KDA50 SDI Controller Q
M5976-AA KZQSA SCSI Controller Q
M5976-AA KZQSA SCSI Controller Q
M8067 Memory Q
M7168 VCB02 Bit Map Q
M7169 VCB02 Controller Q
M7608-BP MS630BB 4-Meg Memory Q
M7608-BP MS630BB 4-Meg Memory Q
M7957 4xSLU Q
SCD-RQD11/EC ESDI Controller Q
All of these are FTAGH, but I wouldn't turn down a trade either. I'd be
interested in drive sleds for my BA123 or a spare power supply, also for
the BA123 or I'm always interested in M68K/M6809 stuff. I would prefer
local pickup near Livermore, CA. I don't believe that the drives are
shippable.
Please contact me directly at <david at thecoolbears.org>
Most of the items are spoken for but I still have the following:
Caminton CMX1651 Memory
M7606-AF KA630 CPU
M7620-AA KA650 CPU
M8067 Memory
M7168 VCB02 Bit Map
M7169 VCB02 Controller
M7608-BP MS630BB 4-Meg Memory
M7608-BP MS630BB 4-Meg Memory
SCD-RQD11/EC ESDI Controller
...so, mainly the VAX stuff. Priority goes to local pickup. I've had all of
these boards working at one time or another but I can't speak to their
current status.
David Coolbear
david at thecoolbears.org
Been away for some time from the mailing lists.... getting back into
my classic gear again....
I have two of these Qumetrack 542 drives.
While testing my 360K drive collection (8 drives.... I must be slacking
:-) ...), 2 worked, 4 had issue (resolved with a good head cleaning),
and 2 (both of the Qumetrack 542 drives (I have two of them)) have mixed
results. My testing is on a Tandy 2500SX/33 using the Tandy straight
through cable and with the drives set do DS0.
I seem to have no issue with Dunfield's testfdc (using testfdc/x a:)
with these drives, doing SS and DD and getting 'pass' from testfdc.
However, when I do a format a:, the drive will format through the 40
tracks, then instead of the heads returning to track 0 quickly, they do
these small stepping 'bursts' and DOS times out saying failure..... it
probably would have worked if DOS would wait 10 seconds or more for the
drive to move to track 0.
I've never seen behavior like this. I even tried an external power
supply in case the Tandy one wasn't up to driving the full height floppy
drive due to an aging marginal supply, but that didn't help anything.
I've now also had one of them shut down the power supply (a shorted
tantalum cap I'm sure).
I've looked through the manual on the drive, I've tried the HM, HS, and
no jumper setting for stepper motor power, same results in all cases.
I'm trying too determine if these drives are good. I'm planning on
using them in a Tandy Model III that is upgraded internally to a Model
IV, but I feel these are basic drives and should work in DOS fine too.
I hope someone has a clue, as I'm tapped out of them currently.
Thanks,
-- Curt
Anyone have any pointers to places to buy quantity of UHF Motorola pagers?
Also wouldn't mind a VHF Advisor or two (the original large one with
holsters.)
Mainly looking for UHF non-FLEX ones.
Thanks
--
: Ethan O'Toole
I need a keyboard cable for my VAXmate. This uses an SDL connector on one
end and RJ11 on the other. Keyboard cables for the IBM Model M have SDL
connectors at one end and a PS/2 connector at the other. I bought one of
these cables with the intention of replacing the PS/2 connector with an
RJ11.
However, I now have a pang of conscience about hacking around with a
perfectly good cable, particularly if they are uncommon. How common are
these cables?
Regards
Rob
Need a faceplate and the eject control shaft (it is sheared off (the
way I aquired it)) (I do have the eject lever)....
I thought I had some floppy drive parts kicking around, but if I do, I
can't find them (and chances are I don't have parts for that specific
drive).
Anyone have a dead drive, or parts from one kicking around ?
Thanks,
-- Curt
Greeting. Its been a while since I have posted here. A while back I picked
up a large Modcomp classic minicomputer. Recently the person i picked the
computer up off of gave me a call to come and get many books and software,
among much more hardware. I have picked up hundreds of 9 track tapes. The
modcomp computer mainly ran the real time os MAX, however i also found many
tapes for a unix variant for the machine, that supported real time
operation as well.
I am trying to preserve things as best i can, I am set to pick up 3 more
machines, and among the tapes and documentation, Space is running out fast.
I am curious if any of this documentation has been archived already, if
not, i can get to scanning it in my free time. I have documentation on
everything. The hardware, the software, os code, everything.
The tapes are another issue all together. They were stored in probably the
worst possible place, in a area of extreme heat and humidity. Some are
musty, others look like new. I do not own a 9 track drive, i was thinking
it would be possible to get a 9 track drive with a scsi interface attached
to a more modern Linux system to dump the tapes to images. If anyone here
has suggestions on how to read off the tapes or where to find a drive, it
would be most helpful.
As a last resort, I have a 9 track drive that is attached to my pdp 11/34,
however i have not gotten that system into working order yet either, and am
unsure of if the drive is working yet.
I was also given an old emulator for the system,m written for linux. I have
not gotten the software to work yet. I need to be sure the software is not
still a licenced product and that the company is gone before i post it.
Perhaps someone here can find out why its not working. On a modern debian
system, it attempts to run and just exits, without any info as to whats
wrong.
Any help or suggestions on how to best preserve the documentation and
software is most appreciated. I am undecided on what to do with the
hardware yet. The hardware is fascinating, and there is a bunch of it,
however it is quite large and is taking up a large portion of space. The
hope is to at least get one running to test out and see if i decide to keep
a system after that.
--Devin D
I haven't dug into this one yet, but I did get it booted in trsdos, and
the letter I on the keyboard wasn't working.
I shut it off, disconnected and removed the keyboard. I desoldered and
removed the APLS switch, opened it up, cleaned up the carbon pad and the
contacts below it, reassembled it, tested it with my DVM, all good to
go. I soldered it back into the keyboard, put the keyboard back,
powered on the system....
I get CRT glow, system reset button will cause the floppy drive to
seek, but nothing on the screen, and pressing return after inserting
TRSDOS does not boot the drive (i.e. testing for a working core system
with no display....).
I do need to test the power supplies and make sure I have not lost a
power rail on one of the two supplies. I presume the one I need to
check is the one on the backside of the cpu board, as the one on the
side of the drive 'cage' powers the drives and the drive controller
board, and on power up and reset, the drives are motor on and tracking,
so I think that supply is at least providing +5/+12V.
Seems odd that putting the keyboard back in resulted in a non working
system. I unplugged it, same behavior with no keyboard plugged in. I
did not connect the kb connector off by one pin or one row.... so as
best as I can tall, Murphy has struck, and it isn't 'operator error'
:-).
Any tips from Model III experts welcome.
-- Curt
Hi all --
I have an R80 drive in my VAX-11/730 cabinet that I'm trying to get
running. Symptoms are: most of the time when the Run/Load switch is
depressed, the drive will begin spinning up for 1-2 seconds (sometimes as
long as 3-4 seconds) and then stop, faulting with error code 01 ("Spindle
Timeout Error"). Every now and again it will spin up and go ready -- the
other night it ran for several hours, long enough for me to get a dump of
the disk with no read errors (*).
I've checked the usual -- the motor and the spindle spin freely and the
belt is good and tight. Connectors have been cleaned and reseated, as have
socketed ICs. Power supply voltages are OK. The motor start cap tests
fine. I'm getting pulses from the optical spindle sensor. I suspected
that the brake might have been slowing things down during spin-up as it was
a bit noisy (due to some light corrosion), but the spin-up error persists
even with it entirely removed.
I haven't been able to find the actual service manual for the R80 (or the
very closely related RA80 and RM80 drives). Anyone have a copy stashed
somewhere? Anyone have any debugging advice?
Thanks as always,
Josh
(*) The drive contained a 4.3BSD system used to run a bbs and uucp relay,
"Darkstar 730" out of Beaverton, OR. Looks like it was last run in the
early 1990s. Now I just need to track down the owner :).
Been away for some time from the mailing lists.... getting back into
my classic gear again....
I have two of these Qumetrack 542 drives.
While testing my 360K drive collection (8 drives.... I must be slacking
:-) ...), 2 worked, 4 had issue (resolved with a good head cleaning),
and 2 (both of the Qumetrack 542 drives (I have two of them)) have mixed
results. My testing is on a Tandy 2500SX/33 using the Tandy straight
through cable and with the drives set do DS0.
I seem to have no issue with Dunfield's testfdc (using testfdc/x a:)
with these drives, doing SS and DD and getting 'pass' from testfdc. I
can also use his imagedisk program, go to the alignment section, and I
can track the drive properly up an down the disk.... it is just DOS that
can't seem to do it.
However, when I do a format a:, the drive will format through the 40
tracks, then instead of the heads returning to track 0 quickly, they do
these small stepping 'bursts' and DOS times out saying failure..... it
probably would have worked if DOS would wait 10 seconds or more for the
drive to move to track 0.
I've never seen behavior like this. I even tried an external power
supply in case the Tandy one wasn't up to driving the full height floppy
drive due to an aging marginal supply, but that didn't help anything.
I've now also had one of them shut down the power supply (a shorted
tantalum cap I'm sure).
I've looked through the manual on the drive, I've tried the HM, HS, and
no jumper setting for stepper motor power, same results in all cases.
I'm trying too determine if these drives are good. I'm planning on
using them in a Tandy Model III that is upgraded internally to a Model
IV, but I feel these are basic drives and should work in DOS fine too.
I hope someone has a clue, as I'm tapped out of them currently.
Thanks,
-- Curt
All,
Southwest Research Institute will be hosting a talk in San Antonio, (Texas, USA) by one of the engineers involved in the Apollo navigation effort, George T. Schmidt. I understand he is aware of and very interested in the Apollo Guidance Computer work done by some of the folks on this list and others, but anyone who has not had a chance to talk to him might well be interested in attending, and would certainly be welcome.
The abstract and title for the talk are below, along with the URL for the IEEE distinguished lecturer website (which doesn?t say any more than I have copied below).
Anyone interested in attending, let me know and I?ll forward more details as I learn them. I expect the lecture will be around noon on Jan. 16 at SwRI, with a repeat at St. Mary?s University in the evening.
Inside Apollo: Heroes, Rules and Lessons Learned in the Guidance, Navigation, and Control (GNC) System Development<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam12.safelinks.protec…>
This Abstract was written in March 2019 which is halfway between the 50th Anniversaries of Apollo 8 (Dec 1968) and Apollo 11 (July 1969). Those 2 flights were among the greatest explorations of mankind. In 8, astronauts deliberately put themselves in orbit around the moon expecting the rocket engine to later fire and bring them home to Earth. In 11, it was mankind?s first visit to the moon and Tranquility Base. Movies, books, articles, and documentaries have covered the space race. The author will give his thoughts based on 10 years inside the GNC program design, many hours in the Spacecraft Control room at Cape Kennedy monitoring GNC performance through liftoff, and then providing real-time mission support to NASA from MIT in Cambridge, MA.
that abstract appears on this website:
http://ieee-aess.org/education/distinguished-lecturer-and-tutorial-program#…
- Mark
210-522-6025 office
210-379-4635 cell
hello there,
just read your reply in the thread "70?s computers" (from about a year ago) where you talk about having created a .SRT file for Hyperland.
Is it still possible to get a copy of that .SRT file?
That would be rreally sweet, 'd love to show this docu to a bunch o? millenials. Can?t wait to see their jaws drop ;.)
Thanks allready!
Kind regards,
annelies
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> 1. Re: Cheap minicomputer (Tracor-Northern 1610) on Facebook
> Markeplace (Allentown, PA) 18 bit? (Chris Zach)
> 2. Re: Cheap minicomputer (Tracor-Northern 1610) on Facebook
> Markeplace (Allentown, PA) 18 bit? (Guy Dunphy)
> 3. Re: Cheap minicomputer (Tracor-Northern 1610) on Facebook
> Markeplace (Allentown, PA) 18 bit? (ED SHARPE)
> 4. Re: Original DEC logo in PostScript (Stefan Skoglund)
> 5. Re: 50 yrs. ago today (Stefan Skoglund)
> 6. Re: OT(?): Emulation XKCD (Stefan Skoglund)
> 7. RE: Original DEC logo in PostScript (Rob Jarratt)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2019 13:37:02 -0400
> From: Chris Zach <cz at alembic.crystel.com>
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Cheap minicomputer (Tracor-Northern 1610) on Facebook
> Markeplace (Allentown, PA) 18 bit?
> Message-ID: <892fa3cb-ce81-1a92-f165-0c90c8f3f4e7 at alembic.crystel.com>
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> Indeed. I was thinking since it was a 16 bit bus but 18 bit switches
> that it might be an 11/35 or 11/40 inside there. Interesting.
>
> On 11/2/2019 11:35 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
>> On 11/02/2019 03:32 AM, cctalk--- via cctalk wrote:
>>> Has anyone seen this?? It looks like an 18-bit machine.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/736222363558907/
>> At least at one time, these things contained PDP-11's.? The CPU at the
>> bottom sure looks like a PDP-11,
>> I'm thinking it might actually be a Cal-Data CPU (PDP-11 clone) with a
>> custom logo.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 08:39:47 +1100
> From: Guy Dunphy <guykd at optusnet.com.au>
> To: Chris Zach <cz at alembic.crystel.com>, "General Discussion: On-Topic
> and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: Cheap minicomputer (Tracor-Northern 1610) on Facebook
> Markeplace (Allentown, PA) 18 bit?
> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20191103083947.00e56608 at mail.optusnet.com.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Well, it's sold. I hope someone here hought it, and will post some better pics and details.
>
> If it had been near to me I'd have bought it instantly. A rack, a Tektronix XY display,
> a rack drawer, blanking panels, some neat mysterious instruments, two 8" floppy drives,
> and a probable PDP-something all for $45?
> Bet the various items are on slide rails too. How rare is it to get both parts of
> workable slide rails? Here in Oz, virtually unheard of. Separating slide halves and losing
> one half seems to be a near universal syndrome with people who part out test equipment.
>
> Guy (Australia)
>
>
> At 01:37 PM 2/11/2019 -0400, you wrote:
>> Indeed. I was thinking since it was a 16 bit bus but 18 bit switches
>> that it might be an 11/35 or 11/40 inside there. Interesting.
>>
>> On 11/2/2019 11:35 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
>>> On 11/02/2019 03:32 AM, cctalk--- via cctalk wrote:
>>>> Has anyone seen this??? It looks like an 18-bit machine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/736222363558907/
>>> At least at one time, these things contained PDP-11's.?? The CPU at the
>>> bottom sure looks like a PDP-11,
>>> I'm thinking it might actually be a Cal-Data CPU (PDP-11 clone) with a
>>> custom logo.
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2019 22:56:01 +0000 (UTC)
> From: ED SHARPE <couryhouse at aol.com>
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Cheap minicomputer (Tracor-Northern 1610) on Facebook
> Markeplace (Allentown, PA) 18 bit?
> Message-ID: <2032848827.223085.1572735361572 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> heck just the empty? rack? with? drawer is? worth that - -Yes Guy I know about the anguish of half sets of rack? rails - we have that in Arizona also!? ?Ed#? ?SMECC
> In a message dated 11/2/2019 2:40:15 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at classiccmp.org writes:
>
> Well, it's sold. I hope someone here hought it, and will post some better pics and details.
>
> If it had been near to me I'd have bought it instantly. A rack, a Tektronix XY display,
> a rack drawer, blanking panels, some neat mysterious instruments, two 8" floppy drives,
> and a probable PDP-something all for $45?
> Bet the various items are on slide rails too. How rare is it to get both parts of
> workable slide rails? Here in Oz, virtually unheard of. Separating slide halves and losing
> one half seems to be a near universal syndrome with people who part out test equipment.
>
> Guy (Australia)
>
>
> At 01:37 PM 2/11/2019 -0400, you wrote:
>> Indeed. I was thinking since it was a 16 bit bus but 18 bit switches
>> that it might be an 11/35 or 11/40 inside there. Interesting.
>>
>> On 11/2/2019 11:35 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
>>> On 11/02/2019 03:32 AM, cctalk--- via cctalk wrote:
>>>> Has anyone seen this??? It looks like an 18-bit machine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/736222363558907/
>>> At least at one time, these things contained PDP-11's.?? The CPU at the
>>> bottom sure looks like a PDP-11,
>>> I'm thinking it might actually be a Cal-Data CPU (PDP-11 clone) with a
>>> custom logo.
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 14:37:21 +0100
> From: Stefan Skoglund <stefan.skoglund at agj.net>
> To: rob at jarratt.me.uk, Rob Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com>,
> "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>, 'Jason T' <silent700 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Original DEC logo in PostScript
> Message-ID: <c93899d01b98e3360d49e7f99745000a3fdfb0a6.camel at agj.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> tis 2019-10-29 klockan 17:48 +0000 skrev Rob Jarratt via cctalk:
>> I know next to nothing about PostScript and fonts, is it possible to
>> convert this to a font that can be installed on Windows? I found a
>> site that says it converts it (convertio.co), but I am suspicious of
>> free sites like that.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Rob
>>
> did you solve your problem ?
>
> Either way doing RTFM - .pfm is binary encoded .afm.
>
> I did a simple drawing with the font in a ps and exported to pdf.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 16:01:12 +0100
> From: Stefan Skoglund <stefan.skoglund at agj.net>
> To: Paul Koning <paulkoning at comcast.net>, "General Discussion:
> On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>, allison
> <allisonportable at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: 50 yrs. ago today
> Message-ID: <2fe0ef07b99716c46cc8a853035b4b41db526052.camel at agj.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> ons 2019-10-30 klockan 13:17 -0400 skrev Paul Koning via cctalk:
>> In some countries, at least in the early 1980s (Sweden?) the law said
>> that private organizations could run communication wires on a floor
>> of a building, but to wire from one floor to another was the monopoly
>> of the government PTT. So DEC Ethernet bridges had PTT approval
>> stickers on them from those countries, indicating those PTTs would be
>> willing to build you a bridged Ethernet from floor 1 to floor 2.
>>
> I remember stickers on modems and telephones (ie not televerket
> provided equipment) which said that this equipment is certified
> to be directly connected to televerket's telephone lines.
>
> But computer network equipment owned by the organization and used
> on the organization's premises ?? That i don't remember.
>
> PS
> Televerket : Sweden's state owned telephone monopoly, today
> known by the public as Telia company. Ellemtel the development
> organization was co-owned by Ericsson/LME/Three-bars and Televerket.
> DS
>
> PPS
> LME still exist in name basically as a holding company for Ericsson.
> DSS
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 17:14:29 +0100
> From: Stefan Skoglund <stefan.skoglund at agj.net>
> To: Zane Healy <healyzh at avanthar.com>, "General Discussion: On-Topic
> and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>, Charles Anthony
> <charles.unix.pro at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: OT(?): Emulation XKCD
> Message-ID: <c9c11fb4bbbd89a0067ad8d763da5fd085b7ed21.camel at agj.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> ons 2019-10-30 klockan 16:01 -0700 skrev Zane Healy via cctalk:
>> I rebuilt the system recently, and now the error seems
>> intermittent. I will say, that backing up my directory of files, and
>> restoring it to the new system was a lot easier than fighting with
>> the tape drives we had on the DPS-8 Mainframes I worked with nearly
>> 30 years ago (we ran GCOS-8).
>>
> My old university had an Pyramid with a normal tape drive - either
> way one of my teacher had as his own last year student job being a
> system administrator for said machine.
>
> One day he had to restore from backup but finds out that the tape drive
> is cranky.
>
> One of his terse comments in the report was:
> It is good to fix things immediately when the fault is found - not
> waiting until you one day finds out that it is preferable to have said
> thing in order.
>
> He had to help the drive start (the drive was sluggish in startup) the
> whole evening that day.....
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 17:03:51 -0000
> From: "Rob Jarratt" <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com>
> To: "'Stefan Skoglund'" <stefan.skoglund at agj.net>,
> <rob at jarratt.me.uk>, "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic
> Posts'" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>, "'Jason T'" <silent700 at gmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Original DEC logo in PostScript
> Message-ID: <03de01d59268$ab603240$022096c0$(a)ntlworld.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Stefan Skoglund <stefan.skoglund at agj.net>
>> Sent: 03 November 2019 13:37
>> To: rob at jarratt.me.uk; Rob Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com>; General
>> Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org>; 'Jason T'
>> <silent700 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Original DEC logo in PostScript
>>
>> tis 2019-10-29 klockan 17:48 +0000 skrev Rob Jarratt via cctalk:
>>> I know next to nothing about PostScript and fonts, is it possible to
>>> convert this to a font that can be installed on Windows? I found a
>>> site that says it converts it (convertio.co), but I am suspicious of
>>> free sites like that.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>> did you solve your problem ?
>>
>> Either way doing RTFM - .pfm is binary encoded .afm.
>>
>> I did a simple drawing with the font in a ps and exported to pdf.
>>
>>
> No I didn't. I did a little bit of searching but didn't find anything except the convertio.co site, which I am reluctant to try unless someone knows it to be safe. If anyone knows of a way to get this to a TrueType font that would be nice. I know so little about fonts, I wonder if there is a way to manually convert it to TrueType, are there any free tools for creating fonts?
>
> Regards
>
> Rob
>
https://fontforge.github.io/en-US/
On 11/3/19 1:47 PM, Lyle Bickley wrote:
> Antoine,
>
> It's not too difficult to read most "standard" 8" floppies (DEC RX02's being
> the exception). The board below deals with both signal routing between 8" and
> standard PC floppy interfaces and the "TG43" signal required by most 8" drives:
I believe that the TG43 signal (if required; some drives generate it
internally) is only used for writing (reduced write current).
You can probably get by just fine if you've got the connectors handy by
wiring up your own cable. Micro Solutions, back in the day sold a small
adapter PCB with a 34-conductor PCB edge connector and a 50 conductor
header for connection to a SA-800 style cable.
This assumes that your 8" drive follows the SA-800 pinout convention.
Some early drives (e.g. Calcomp, (IBM) do not.
Same for the power connections. Many use the Amp (now TE) Mate-N-Lok
connector PIN 1-380999-0, but by no means all. AC connections, if
needed are subject to the usual 50/60 Hz and line voltage considerations.
I use older open-frame linear power supplies, but the +24V/+5V
requirement is a lot easier to satisfy today, since inexpensive
multi-amp SMPSUs are available (generally less than $15). Even dual-
and triple- output PSUs are available for around $20 that should supply
more than enough current.
Hope this helps,
Chuck
All,
my daughter is well aware of my affinity for old computers and software, and, as usual, she pointed out that there?s an XKCD for that:
https://xkcd.com/2221/
I found this remarkably accurate.
- Mark
I've tried several times to email them, and never received a reply.
Could someone send me an email adr for a human who might be able to
answer if they could scan something which is in their catalog but isn't
available on line there?
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> To: Murray McCullough <c.murray.mccullough at gmail.com>, "General
> Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 11:11:49 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: Coleco & Atari
> > old? 1983. Coleco ADAM, my favourite, and Atari 600XL, not so much. I
> still
> > have my ADAM. No not why. But isn?t this why we all belong to
> classiccomp. And
> > $600. How quaint! BTW(sorry), it had an update on CP/M called CP/M Plus.
> > Gosh, I miss those old days.
>
> Oh man, the Atari 8bit is second to the Adam? IIRC the 800XL and Floppy
> Drive cost less than the Coleco Adam kit. You didn't get a daisy wheel
> printer, but you got better sound and a much larger library.
>
> I grew up on the ColecoVision, neighbor had the Atari 5200. I used to say
> the ColecoVision was better when younger but now I have to say I think the
> Atari 5200 is better.
>
> Have yet to own an Adam, but I always thought of the Adam as something of
> a failure? There was a large number of them that shipped DOA or close to
> DOA as well due to power supply issue (in the printer) ?
>
>
>
The ADAM was a well-designed system with a great set of launch software
hobbled by a rollout/gamble for the Christmas buying season that didn't pay
off. If they had a proper release to work out the manufacturing issues they
would have been a lot more successful I think. Nevertheless, any system in
the wild you come across should work just as well as any other vintage
machine by this time. It's my favorite machine pre-Amiga/ST/IIgs/Mac.
From: William Donzelli
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 6:45 PM
> PICTURES! PICTURES! PICTURES!
>> I have been unable to find anything about the 4505 display station. Does
>> anyone know any details about this item? It resembles an IBM 2260, but the
>> keyboard is not built-in, as in the 2260.
> I think it may be for an IBM 1500, the educational system based on an 1130.
The 1500 I worked with at the University of Texas School of Education was based
on an 1800 (which is of course the same architecture as the 1130, but in highboy
industrial cabinetry rather than a desk. Coursewriter II and APL\1500 for the
educational software, FORTRAN II and assembler for background tasks.
Rich
Hello again everyone!
This is my regular visit to CCTECH trying to find an example (or two) of
this weird and wonderful piece of IBM mass storage for my ancient computer
collection.
For a description, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_2321_Data_Cell .
Hope springs eternal, thank you for your patience,
peter
Dave McQuire keeps emailing me about the CAMAC controller
boards, but he obviously is not getting my replies.
Anybody know how to contact him?
Thanks,
Jon
Hi all,
Back in the 70's and 80's Philips had a quite popular series of mini
computers called P800, which also branched out to the PTS series and
possibly other.
Could I be lucky to find other list members interested in these
products? I know of a few, but there surely must be others. I'm trying
to collect what is left of the documentation.
73, Nico
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I'm still looking for a Silent 700 printhead with all the pixels working.
And three keyswitches (or a complete keyboard, doesn't have to be all there
or working).
thanks
Charles
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Update #3:
I have found many examples of rare IBM gear from the 1960s inside the
warehouse. These include:
8x IBM 029 keypunch keyboard
Boxes of IBM keypunch parts
2x IBM 552 Interpreter
1x IBM 083 Card Sorter
1x IBM 4505 Display Station
I have been unable to find anything about the 4505 display station. Does
anyone know any details about this item? It resembles an IBM 2260, but the
keyboard is not built-in, as in the 2260.
I am taking offers on the items listed above.
Thomas Raguso
Just a friendly reminder ...
VCF PNW 2020 will be on March 21st and 22nd at Living Computers:Museum+Labs
in Seattle, Washington. We are looking for exhibits, speakers and
volunteers.
Presenting an exhibit or speaking at the event takes a little time but it
is not difficult. And the reward is that you get to share something that
you are passionate about with like-minded people, usually over 1000 of
them. Exhibits range from small homebrew machines all the way up to high
dollar bigger-iron. (I didn't say big iron because we have not had anybody
move anything in with a forklift yet.) Pictures from previous years and
details on what to expect can be found at http://vcfed.org/vcf-pnw .
Volunteering is pretty easy too; we usually just need a few extra hands to
do setup, teardown, and some minor tasks. In between you get to enjoy the
museum and the event. If you have special skills we'll put those to use
too.
If you are thinking of traveling from outside of the region there is plenty
to do in Seattle while you are here. Local attractions include the
Connections Museum, the Pacific Science Center, MoPOP, the Boeing factory
tour, Mr. Rainier, etc. Victoria, British Columbia is also a short
distance away. See a more complete list at https://goo.gl/3emMWH .
Five months seems to be the distant future but we all know how quickly it
will pass. If you are mildly curious or have a question don't be shy - I'm
happy to explain the event in more detail.
Regards,
Mike
mbbrutman at brutman.com or michael at vcfed.org
https://www.ebay.com/itm/372814919055
I'm surprised there is any interest in these.
I bought some docs/sw on eBay years ago for one of these and have
never run across anyone that had a system.
A bit off topic, but I figure a number of us are interested in this older "social media" mechanism.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/10/yahoo-is-deleting-al…
So if you subscribe to any Yahoo groups, or value any of that content, be sure to archive it before your friendly telco sends ALL of it to the bit bucket.
paul
I recently purchased one of these, and it arrived in rather sad shape. It
does power on.
Is there anyone out there who would give it a good home?
The housing is cracked in 2 places, and a lot of the key caps got lost
before it arrived at my door.
Make offer if interested. I will pack it well for shipping, or it can be
picked up.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OvlRYmr1sC9xvZPAImedqUl7nh11Rs_K
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
830-370-3239 cell
sales at elecplus.com
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FTGH Decstation 5000
* Decstation 5000/125 - also houses a CD drive
* 2 Expansion storage boxes - one has a tape drive and the other one has a
floppy drive.
* 2 very large and heavy RGB Digital monitors - one has both Digital and
Sony branding on the back of it. I haven't dug the other one out as it's in
a corner and is dam heavy but it looks the same as the other one.
* A box of spares including a keyboard, two mice, a CD drive, some cables, a
couple of CPU's, three genuine HDDs and a big bag of RAM
I've never powered it up - it was a rescue - I believe it was a server at a
TAFE college in Adelaide, South Australia.
I am located in south western Victoria (Australia)
Kevin Parker
0418 815 527
Hi, All,
I was recently at the CompuServe 50th Anniversary event which included
a tour of our old building at 5000 Arlington Center Blvd, where I
worked in 2001-2002. The old data center is still in operation, being
rented out by Expedient as a cloud hosting and co-location facility.
One of the highlights of the tour is an old Teleray 10T they found
when they moved in 9 years ago. They have it cleaned up and on
display in their conference room. I did a little digging and quickly
found the docs on Bitsavers (thanks as always, Al). What struck me
was the appearance of the mainboard. I went up into my attic, and
wouldn't you know, I _have_ one, labelled "Model 10C" - same board but
(formerly) with special feature firmware to be a 10C.
What I don't have is ROMs in the ROM sockets. :-( It's five ;places
for standard 2708 EPROMs. From the memory map and some of the photos
in the docs, not every model had ROM in "Position 5". It looks like
all did have 4 EPROMs installed.
I have blanks and I have a burner. What's not up on Bitsavers is the
10T or 10C firmware. Does anyone have anything like that?
It looks like the keyboard is both easy and not easy to remanufacture.
It's a raw matrix, attached via fat round cable and DB25. The
Keyboard includes a 74154 to decode 4 bits to 16 lines and the returns
are via 8 lines. On the Terminal side, the 4 bits map to the 6502's
A0-A3 and the return lines map to D0-D7 (it appears at $0000-$000F in
the memory map). 91 keys, 1 IC and a lot of diodes would implement a
keyboard, as would an AVR microcontroller sitting on the 12 row/column
lines, translating to/from a modern keyboard.
The video appears to be standard 15.575KHz 1.0-2.5V mono video plus H.
Sync and V. Sync. routed off the board via the power supply connector
(+5V @ 3A, +/-12V @ 0.4A and a smattering of -5V for the 2708s).
So the only thing I would really need is copies of 4 or 5 EPROMs and I
think I could get this working with a replacement display and
reimplemented keyboard. Anyone happen to have the firmware?
Thanks,
-ethan
I just acquired a Vigra MMI-210 VME DSP/audio card that I?d like to get working. Does anyone happen to have manuals or know where I could find them?
The Wayback Machine at the Internet Archive provides some programming information <https://web.archive.org/web/19970811215245/http://vigra.com/products/vme-au…> so if I can configure the card, I can make it do things.
Unfortunately I have yet to find an installation guide. Since it?s a VME card, it has plenty of jumpers that will need to be properly set before it?ll actually work.
Anyone have a source for more information, or another place to dig for it?
-- Chris
I've lost track of where the jumper settings are documented for the
MM8-E, and I've got five sets here that have all been changed one way or
another. Can anybody remind me where to find the settings for the three
EMA jumper links on the G111? I want to set at least one board set to
the lowest bank.
--
Pete
Pete Turnbull
Hello all,
I may get a 129 IBM keypuncher soon and was wondering, if for transportation- and weight-related reasons, the punch&read mechanics can be carefully removed with the cables from the rest of the sytem?
>From the IBM documents, it seems that after removing the top cover from the table, the mechanics connected to two holders (one one each end) could be separated from the table by removing two screws and two bolts (one of each on every side) and deconnecting all cables down in the electronics cabinet.
See for instance: UvA Computermuseum
UvA Computermuseum
Did anybody make any experiences with this?
I am grateful for any suggestions and/or recommendations.
Best regards,
Pierre
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Hi,
My pal Dave just gave me a very nice original Ultra 1 Creator! Found a
nice 10000K 146GB disk and 1GB genuine X7004 Sun RAM from good old MemoryX
and this store I'd never used before called DiscTech (great ecomm site and
decent prices afaict), so this baby's shaping up to be a fantastic and
affordable rescue!
Alas, it seems some corporate best practices aficionado from the company
that was entrusted with the care and feeding of Sun has unilaterally and
unceremoniously "lost" all the old patch clusters for these machines.
Anyone still have them? The particular one I need is the patch SUNWflell
>from anytime after late 1997.
This will allow her OpenBoot to play nice with 64-bit operating systems
like Solaris and the Illumos-based Tribblix, OpenSXCE, etc, which I'm
thinking will be extremely cool to see running on a 25 year old machine!
thx much.
jake
I got heaps of documentation from an ex-DEC field service engineer.
Among them there were a VT420 print set. I didn't see any schematics for
the VT420 on bitsavers so even though this one looks a bit strange it is
better than nothing.
http://storage.datormuseum.se/u/96935524/Datormusuem/DEC/VT420-engineering-…
/Mattis
I have updated my inventory of DEC documentation with the latest arrivals
>from Gunnar, the ex-DEC FS tech.
Those were mostly binders of software documentation and handbooks. If there
are a document that you would like to have scanned I will do my best to
help out. But please do me a favour to check if they are not online already
>from the regular sources.
http://forum.datormuseum.se/category/35A7E09F-5154-49F1-BE57-9F9E3D923327.h…
I can only scan documents up to ledger size. Larger documents, like some of
the old schematics, need help from a professional scanning service, which
unfortunately cost money. I cannot scan books, either.
I will continuously update the inventory as I go through all the
documentation.
There are likely to be errors in the inventory. Typing on the phone is a
pain. If you find errors please let me know.
/Mattis
I was just listening to a video on the Voyager space craft. It used an interesting type of memory, called magnetic wire memory. There is only a little bit of information of it on the web. It is clever in that has a non-destructive read. I just wondered if any one else was familiar with this type of memory.
Dwight
I worked at Univac Defense Systems in the early 70's. The launch control computer for the Minuteman was made by Univac. It had plated wire memory. I remember when the failure analysis group had to analyze a module that failed in the field. The module was locked in a safe and someone had to boost their clearance level to work on it. In plant 1, in Saint Paul, MN near the Mississippi River, there was a thin film memory production facility. It produced the memory used in the S3A submarine hunter (an/ayk-10 if I remember correctly). The bit planes were made from etched glass that had metal sputtered onto it, with tons of tiny holes for the word wires. The bit planes were stacked and the word wires were threaded through the tiny holes perpendicular to the planes. Because I sometimes worked out of plant 1, I had to take safety training for hydrofluoric acid which was used to etch the glass. Nasty stuff.
Forwarding from another list because of its general interest:
.....
A heads up that the guy who was responsible for the full professional grade
Spice simulator Microcap (latest version 12) has retired, and made his
software downloadable free of charge. It was $4,500 per seat before.
Download page here http://www.spectrum-soft.com/download/download.shtm
.....
paul
Does anyone know whatever happened to John Keys and his collection?
https://www.guidestar.org/profile/43-1950958
The mission of the Houston Computer Museum is to collect and preserve
historic computers, technology, and related materials; and to use these
collections for exhibitions, educational programs, historical research, and
related activities for the benefit of the public.
Principal Officer
Mr. John Keys
Main Address
9410 Harwin Ste E
Houston, TX 77036
I suspect that something may have happened to John, and this may have been
his collection.
Sellam
This is an Amiga 3000 in excellent condition, both functionally and
physically. Other than the very slight yellowing of the front face and one
barely visible scrape, it is almost perfect.
It is extremely clean inside as well. The on-board battery has not yet been
removed but it should be soon as it has begun to outgas and affect the
surrounding components. I cleaned up the minimal oxidation it had caused on
some of the various components local to it. The capacitors have no visible
age-related issues.
The system boots up into Amiga WorkBench 3.1 and has numerous applications
and drivers installed. Video output is from the GVP EGS (works with SVGA
monitor) board, which plugs into the on-board video port (via external
connector cable).
Photos: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmxBoNtw
(Despite the marring of the back label, the serial number is readable:
CA1013685.)
Configuration:
16Mhz on-board CPU with Commodore A3640 68040 @ 25 MHz accelerator
2MB Chip RAM
16MB Fast RAM
Great Valley Products L.C. EGS (Rev. 3) 28/24 Spectrum RTG graphics board
w/2MB for 1600?1280?8 interlace, 1152?864?16 interlace, and 800?600?24
non-interlace video modes
Utilities Unlimited Emplant Macintosh emulator board with Macintosh II ROMs
(Apple 342-0105-B, 342-0106-B, 342-0107-B, 342-0108-B)
Conner CFA170S 170MB IDE hard drive
Quantum LPS525S 525MB SCSI2 hard drive
3.5" floppy drive
So many people expressed an interest in this machine that I decided to sell
it by private sealed bid auction.
Between now and Monday, October 21, 8:00PM Pacific Daylight Time, if
interested, please submit your bid to me by e-mail with your bid. I will
confirm your bid by e-mail and notify you if you are the highest bidder, or
otherwise of the final selling price. There is a reserve price of $800.
If you are unfamiliar with a sealed-bid auction, you submit your bid
private to me via e-mail. Your bid is the highest price you are willing to
pay. Whomever has the highest bid by the deadline wins the auction. I will
announce the final sale price to all bidders. The winning bidder has 24
hours to submit payment unless specific arrangements are made otherwise.
Winning bidder pays for shipping via FedEx Ground, shipping from
Sacramento, California. I will ship globally. Local pickup is welcome.
Payment by PayPal using direct funds transfer is required. Other payment
arrangements may be negotiated. My payment policies are explained in full
in my FAQ, located here:
https://tinyurl.com/VWoCW-FAQ
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks, and good luck to all prospective bidders.
Sellam
Hi all --
I picked this DPS-6 up over the summer and it's just taking up space
(quite a bit of space) in the corner of my basement. This is a custom
16-bit, bitsliced, microcoded CPU from the early 80s with (I believe)
8mb of memory, and ethernet. It would originally have run a version of
GCOS. It's about the size of a large-ish minifridge, but a bit deeper.
It's also quite heavy!
It's a neat machine, but it's very obscure and unfortunately incomplete
(it is missing both mass storage and storage controllers). Otherwise,
it is complete and in good condition (albeit a bit dirty). So you can
see why you'd really want to have it in your collection .
If anyone's up for a project, drop me a line. Local pick up in Seattle, WA.
Thanks,
Josh
Paul - I had a quick look at PLATO.
I dont think it was like that.
In this game when you set a movement direction and velocity you moved through the universe in that direction ?forever?.
There was not concept of ?moves? or ?turns?, it was very dynamic.
Spasim looks much closer - but was that ?vector graphics?? The game I was using was just 24 x 80 characters. For the year and the
WYSE terminals (etc) it was great.
>
> I wonder if this is a port of the PLATO game by the same name, which goes back to 1976 or so. PLATO had lots of multi-user games with various levels of graphics sophistication. Space war games included "conquest", "empire", and "spasim" -- that last actually had 3d graphics, which was quite a stretch for 1977. Then there was "airfight" (the inspiration for Microsoft Flight Simulator) as well as a boatload of "dungeon & dragons" games.
>
> paul
> ------------------------------
>
> Was it in use at Berkeley? I might have it stashed away in some of my
> BSD-related tapes.
>
Chuck, I am Scottish, I have never been to Berkeley! I just cant remember the history. I remember playing the game with a bunch of post-graduates.
I was either a post-grad or perhaps an early lecturer in the Uni. That places it square in the mid-80s. I did spend most of my time researching.
The games would have appeared on tapes from other places?.. I am hunting around amongst the post-grads to see if any of them can tell me
where it came from.
I knew the game as ?search? in that that is what you typed in to start it. To keep the undergrads out if it we had to put both passwords and time-locks in
the code?.
Iain
> --Chuck
>
> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 12:55:09 -0400
> From: Bob Smith <bobsmithofd at gmail.com>
> To: Dr Iain Maoileoin via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: looking for a program - last gasp questions
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>
> are you thinking of conquest?
> https://github.com/jtrulson/conquest
>
> conquest
>
> Conquest is a top-down, real time space warfare game. It was
> originally written in RATFOR for the VAX/VMS system in 1983 by Jef
> Poskanzer and Craig Leres.
>
> I spent incredible amounts of time playing this game with my friends
> in the terminal labs at college, and when I actually had a multi-user
> system running at home (Unixware) I decided to try and translate/port
> the code to C in Unix. This was in the early to mid 1990's.
>
> Of course, over the years many things have changed. Today, Conquest is
> a true client/server game. The client uses freeglut, SDL 2.0 (for
> sound) and OpenGL. It uses C++11 to build, though for now it's "C
> software with some C++ containers and constructs?.
Fraid not ;-(
no grid in search?.
You actually scrolled through the universe on your 24 x 80!
If you passed a plannet/star then you could see it on screen ( in the distance, or with a screen full of *?s as you hit it!)
It had a vast universe and you could scroll around the universe for a hour without seeing the same place.
>
4 or 5 of us playing it really cranked up the CPU load. I think many terminals were 9600, if you got your hands on
a 19200 or better you were a p*g *n sh*t.
On and off I have been hunting for this for 3-4 years. I know I am not making it up - it did come from some US university.
Not star-trek....
I am trying to track down the source of a unix game .....
Years and years ago - 1980s - I was in the Computing Science Department
at Strathclyde Uni.? and we had a bunch of BSD4 systems running on VAXen.
I have memory of - but have never located - a curses based 24 x 80
display - multi-user "space-war" game that allowed you to navigate
around a 3D universe with the 24 x 80 giving you a full screen view of
the universe..
In the game you could
* hunt the universe for aliens (like "shankers" I cant remember the
others),
* other players - you saw them as they saw you
you could also team up with other players to have more firepower and
call for help using a 1-line on screen chat/broadcast system,
there were planet(s) scattered about - that you could hide behind.
The students and I modified the program with some "special features".? I
cant remember if the name of program was changed too ;-(
Anyway we knew the game as "search", it was written in C - it was a good
test of serial output capability of the VAXen - it was also a great way
to teach students about the VI keys - since hjkl worked as expected for
movement (at least that was out excuse to the prof when caught playing
the game during the day).
From my poor description can anybody tie down what I am looking for?
Appreciated
Iain
An ex-DEC engineer offloaded some strange stuff that was going to the skip.
I just thought I could have a look. But what is it?
There is two backplanes marked KA14 and BE14. I thought it was the PDP-14,
but I am not sure really.
https://i.imgur.com/86tcLFz.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/BWiCz8l.jpg
I came together with a similar sized PSU.
Then there was a strange DEC workshop built paper tape reader. The reader
mechanics looks similar to PC04 and PC05 but is smaller. The wheel is
smaller and the stepper motor is smaller as well. Are these parts from some
other DEC reader they cobbled together at DEC for inhouse duty.
https://i.imgur.com/0zv55pP.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/rE423Hi.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/8th1y3Z.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/VKoH2LX.jpg
Any clues?
While dumping lispm tapes, I found one with a label saying "Read it into DRAL" (may be "DRAC"?) "and sent a message to cap's bboard saying where it can be found. -Bob?. There was another paper label that had fallen off. What I think is the label in question was later found in the bottom of the box, a strip of masking tape saying ?SPACEWAR FOR VAX (Unix?)?. The contents are a 136KB tar archive containing source to a program called ?orbit?, all files are dated August 22nd, 1983.
The README file follows:
??
To install orbit:
1. Do a 'make all'.
2. Make sure the directories on the path /usr/games/lib/orbit/*
all exist and are writable by you (except /usr, of course).
3. Do a 'make install'.
This should work with no changes on Berkeley 4.2, unless the
structure for the console keyboard buffer has been changed.
The crock that reads the up-down codes here should be changed
to use the real ROM-table hooks, anyway. Unfortunately, all
that nice stuff is in protected memory.
Enjoy!
- Bob Bane (bane.umcp-cs at UDel-Relay)
??
Does anyone know what this is? The (gzipped) tar file is at https://www.bogodyne.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/orbit.tar.gz <https://www.bogodyne.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/orbit.tar.gz>
David...where did you use Lisp on a B6700?
Bill Gord and I wrote the first INTERLISP interpreter for the B6700 back
around
1974-1975, on a DARPA contract, at UCSD. (At the start, it was to
implement BBNLISP,
but the name changed during the project :)
DARPA found that researchers using INTERLISP (or others) on Dec PDP10s (and
similar) were hampered by the limited address space (256K virtual memory).
The B6700 offered a significantly larger address space (and many other
features, of course :)
(I know our LISP got distributed to other Burroughs sites in those days,
just like our STARTREK and Bob Jardine's SOLAR.)
Danny Bobrow (with Xerox PARC at the time) came and helped us get started.
I met Warren Teitelman ... he had no idea that the cover of the
INTERLISP manual was an homage to his last name. (See:
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/xerox/interlisp/Interlisp_Reference_Manual_Oct_197…
)
We got our system up and running, including DWIM and other packages, and
were told ... oops, DEC figured out how to expand the amount of virtual
memory on the PDP-10, so we don't need to buy Burroughs mainframes now!
Our INTERLISP was a full interpreter, and also had a compiler to LISP
p-code, which might have inspired UCSD Pascal's p-code (Ken Bowles was our
boss).
I believe I have the source, in Burroughs ALGOL.
As a side bonus, I got to interact with Danny, and people from PARC and BBN
as we were watching other UCSD Computer Center people put the B6700 on the
ARPANET. (I think we were something like the 25th computer.)
Stan Sieler
> From: Paul Koning
> Some early machines, the PDP-6 I believe is an example, have
> "registers" in the ISA but they actually correspond to specific parts
> of main memory.
The PDP-6 and KA10 (basically a re-implementation of the PDP-6 architecture)
both had cheapo versions where addresses 0-15 were in main memory, but also
had an option for real registers, e.g. in the PDP-6: "The Type 162 Fast
Memory Module contains 16 words with a 0.4 usecond cycle." The KA10 has
a similar "fast memory option".
Noel
I recently picked up a copy of "CTS-300 - DIBOL Language Reference Manual"
(because when I went to do a CHWiki page for the language:
http://gunkies.org/wiki/DIBOL
I could find almost nothing about it online); does anyone have enough of a use
for this that I should put it in the high-priority scan list?
Noel
This came in, please contact me through
https://www.vintagecomputer.net/contact.cfm
and I will forward your info to the person who requested a rescue so you
can work it out, first come first served.
Bill
-------- Original Message --------
> From: ----
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 12:58 PM
> To: -----
> Subject: VintageComputer.net Inquiry
>
> VintageComputer.net Inquiry Contact Information Name: Richard Lynch
> Email: ------ Phone: ----
> -------------------------
> Comments:
> Hi Bill,
> I live in Texas but I have family in Minnesota (St Cloud) looking for
someone local to give a new home to a small group of older Macs and a word
processor. There are 3 old iMacs, an eMac, an LCII and a Performa 627CD.
The word processor is a vintage Smith Corona PWP 3100. Everything is single
owner and well kept in a smoke free/pet free home. It's all free and we can
deliver in St Cloud, but it all must go - no cherry picking please. Do you
think anyone in the group can help?
> Thanks,
> Richard
> VintageComputer.net
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> From: Chuck Guzis
> One could argue that it's just as similar to FORTRAN (cf. computed GOTO
> and logical IF statements).
It probably worth pointing out that I never used COBOL, and have little
knowledge of it. So when one reads "it is vaguely reminiscent of COBOL, as it
has a 'Data Division' and a 'Procedure Division'", I must have copied that
all from some source I found, because I don't know what the 'Data Division'
and a 'Procedure Division' are (although I can guess from the names).
> Where it differs mainly from FORTRAN of the times is a facility for
> record layout
I seem to recall that COBOL was the first language with support for
structures? If DIBOL has support for them too, which would be another
similarity between the two.
Noel
Hi Al,
On the surface 3V & 1.2V is printed. This is a MST-4 card extender.
MST-1 & MST-2 are different. I was also interested, but the seller was
not willing to ship them to Europe :-( Regards Henk
What?s the best way to restore a dull BOT marker so I can get a good dump of a tape? I don?t need a long-term fix since tapes themselves are in exceedingly bad condition and are unlikely to survive more than one read.
Hi - I was not going to write about this here until I was pretty sure we
were on track, but it looks like we are go to open our new vintage computer
gallery and hobby shop this Friday. If you're local to the
Philadelphia/Baltimore area, look us up and better yet, pop in for a
visit.
Our first feature exhibit will be a Commodore History, but we also have a
lot from the 1950's through the 70's on display to tell some of the
lesser-known tales before the microcomputer era. The idea here is to bring
vintage computing to the local community via something that they can
identify with (i.e. Commodore) but also have historical depth for those of
us who have a passion for the history of computing.
For more details our new URL is.
https://www.kennettclassic.com/
Thanks
Bill
vintagecomputer.netkennettclassic.com
Hello folks,
We've had another shipment of retired DEC kit come in that's free to good
homes but it has to be either collected or earmarked for collection by
Thursday 17th October, I realise this isn't giving people much notice.
Alpha 4100 5/300, single CPU, 3GB RAM, DE450, KZPAAx2, FDDI, pedestal
enclosure with door
VAX 3100-95, 16MB RAM
DECserver 300
various DEChub900 modules
BA356 x2, no disks
TZ887 autoloader x2
VT320 + LK201
3x IBM RS6000s
DEREP ethernet repeater
DELL PowerVault 120T
External SDLT1
External TZ87
Location is CB8 7NY
Cheers!
--
adrian/witchy
Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
t: @binarydinosaurs f: facebook.com/binarydinosaurs
w: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk
Is anyone here familiar with this disk tester? I'm actually looking for
the operators manual or even better/more unlikely a service manual.
I found this while digging through some of the "stuff" I've accumulated
over the past 40 years or so.
Marvin
I think this is the guy who has the warehouse full of crap in Texas that
was going to be scrapped, but now has its own facebook group.
If you find and join the group, there are photos of it there.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/433516373950693/
Vintage Computer Warehouse Liquidation (Houston)
thanks
Jim
WAREHOUSE LIQUIDATION UPDATE:
I am taking offers on an SEL 810a mainframe computer. It includes three
cabinets, a Teletype Model 33 ASR, as well as a vintage wooden box filled
with spare cards. This machine was installed in 1969 and retired in 2006.
It is in excellent condition. It has a front panel with blinkenlights, and
one of the cabinets has a Nixie tube numerical display. I have shared
pictures of the main cabinet and the spare parts box at the following link.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ebc3Aj5zmgXjFosR7
Buyer must pick up all three cabinets and the Teletype. Best offer will be
accepted.
Thomas Raguso
> From: Chuck Guzis
> Calling DIBOL "COBOL-like" is stretching things quite a bit.
OK, so I'll change it to "vaguely COBOL-like"... :-)
Seriously, though, there some high-level similarities, and not just
the purpose...
Noel
I was running it on a M68k VMEbus. Version PDOS/68020 R3.3a 20-Nov-87. I believe BitSavers or archive.org has some reference material
Richard
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
I have a odd TMS9900 machine with floppy drives that would be interesting
to get an operating system runnig on. The Eyring institute PDOS looks
interesting and I have found a page describing it.
https://www.vaxbarn.com/index.php/other-bits/105%20-pdos Unfortunately none
of the download links works.
I sent a few mails to Camiel but it seems like they might have ended up in
the garbage folder so I am trying this public mail instead and hope that it
gets through!
I really appreciate if the links could be fixed so that I could download a
copy. And source code for the boot ROM would be nice.
Or is there someone else that have a copy of the manuals and the binaries?
Thanks in advance!
/Mattis
I am in the middle of refurbishing two drive controllers, a Percom At88
with doubler board, and a Percom At-88SPD. Neither has mechs and my
search for them has been frustrating. The mechs are like hens teeth
online, and when I find them they are insanely expensive.
I know there's gotta be a pile of them out there just rusting away.
I'd like to give as many as four a good home.
Mechs I can use are, in order of desireability: 5.25" 40 track, double
-sided, 80-track double-sided, 40 track single-sided.
3.5" mechs (preferably with adapters for 5.25" mounting, have got to
have jumpers for drive number selection. Most 1.44's will work on
these controllers as 720k drives if the right media is used, or,
better, if the drive has jumpers to force the density select.
I hate to bother with such a petty thing, but I could sure use some
help getting these things running. They are nice drives. I repaired
one already, and got it driving a broken MDD210, the only mech I have,
but that is so flaky it is of no use other than to let me know my
repairs have got the controller working again.
Best,
Jeff
>
>Very likely a semi custom or custom memory device, due to the prefix.
Armed with that and the fact that pin 1 connects to the leadframe I
figured maybe it's something like the 6830 Mikbug prom -- 0V on 1, 5V
on 12, data on the left, address on the right. Tried reading it like
that (for all 16 combinations of chip selects) but 0xFF throughout.
So I popped the lid, stuck it under a microscope. The chip says
"MCM6816" which is in fact a 1k ROM.
Anyone have more information on the 6816 ROM?
Thanks
W
This is a bit of a hail mary...
I recently won a Univation Intenral Hard Disk System for the DEC Rainbow
100 card, memory and drive.
But it came with the wrong docs and no diskettes.
Any chance that anybody has anything in this area squirreled away somewhere?
Warner
Hello,
Maybe someone in the UK would like an AS400..Got the following through
vintagecomputer.net contact form:
".. I have as400 fc5070 exp unit v.large & brocade silkworm 'ibm
director'netswitch,new,v.large,needing pick up from uk,s.e.kent,
ct91rp,anyone who wishes too use,app center full of archives etc, no longer
can store them,up for grabs,email pref.."
Send me your contact info (email preferred) and I will forward to the
person. I don't know the guy, no affiliation, never been to Kent.
Bill Degnan
There are 28 pallets of older HP and Cisco equipment being sold by a broker
in Germany. The equipment is located in Hungary.
If you can handle taking in a huge amount, and you are in Europe, please
contact me.
This is not a pick and choose. It is a "take all" situation and will require
payment. I do not know the requested value for this lot. I also do not know
what the equipment is. A list is available on request.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
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It turned out my friend was wrong. The power transformer is most likely ok.
But one of the main choppers were short circuited (yes, it is a switcher,
again to little info from my friend).
Anyway. The chopper transistors were TI made in 1978 but marked T484.
Probably some IBM marking which no one has the cross for.
I replaced them with nice high voltage high current TO3 transistors The
only thing i could get from the original transistors except for the
physical appearance was the polarity.
With a 5.6 ohm resistor on the 5V i fired up the PSU with a 60W lamp in
series with one of the mains leads. Nothing happened on the bases of the
switchers until I got to around 190 VAC input.
At that point the base went high and stayed there.
Really strange. Of course I have no schematics for this IBM thingie. Does
anyone have a schematic for the IBM 5110 PSU? I think I really need it to
understand what is going on.
Tracing it out is an option but then all those square metal canned IBM
ICs...
/Mattis
A fellow who was putting the air in "Microsoft Tire" (c) is going to
prison. Microsoft claims that the air they give free with the tire is
not free. You can download the air and install the air and use the
air, but noone can help you do it or they will spend 15months in
federal prison and pay 3/4 of a million beans in damages for helping
you and charging nothing for it but a quarter for the electricity it
cost to put the air in.
https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-microsoft-copyright-20…
Jeff
These went exceptionally fast.
Timing of the first response was Jim Capp by about 1 minute. So if Jim will send me his physical address off list, I?ll coordinate with him in shipping them.
David
> On Oct 7, 2019, at 6:05 AM, Jim Capp <jcapp at anteil.com> wrote:
>
> David,
>
> I?m interested and will give them a good home. I?m in Pennsylvania, so coffee would not work. I?m also willing to cover your shipping costs.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jim
>
>
>> On Oct 7, 2019, at 8:56 AM, David <david at kdbarto.org> wrote:
>>
>> I?ve got a few books I?ve just pulled off the shelf and no longer want/need.
>> I?m hoping someone will give them a good home.
>>
>> UNIX System Labs Inc UNIX(r) System V Release 4
>> Programmers Guide: System Services and Application Packaging Tools
>> Device Driver Interface/Driver-Kernel Interface (DDI/DKI) Reference Manual (2 copies)
>>
>> AT&T 3B2/3B5/3B15 Computers Assembly Programming Manual
>>
>> Sun Microsystems Inc (Sun Technical Reports)
>> The UNIX System - 1985
>> Sun 3 Architecture - 1986
>>
>> I?m willing to split postage on mailing them wherever. If you are local (San Diego)
>> I?m willing to meet you wherever for an exchange and a coffee.
>>
>> David
>> (Also posted on the cctalk mailing list)
>>
>
Well I said no more computers I can't lift, but exotic systems keep
finding me. So today we pulled a Tandem CLX out of a basement, along
with a few boxes of docs, 9-track tapes and random odd and ends:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/m2N7RKN3JXcmVTUC8
There's such as thing as "so obscure that no one knows/cares about
it". I've had those before. Do I have another? It sure is heavy.
-j
This is a long shot, but...
There was an Able Computer document at VCF Midwest, and through a
miscommunication, it wound up on the 'free' pile. Did anyone here get it?
If so, I'd like to try and get it scanned in, and made available.
The thing is that documentation for Able products is hyper-rare; we only have
those for the UNIVERTER and QNIVERTER, and some preliminary notes for the
ENABLE. So if this can somehow be located...
And while I'm at it, if anyone has any documentation on other Able products
(there's a list here:
http://gunkies.org/wiki/Able_Computer
which I think is fairly complete), it would be great to get that scanned in
too. (Not advertising brochures, we have a couple of them.)
Thanks!
Noel
> From: Jason T
> didn't know you were at the show. Thanks for coming out!
I wasn't! :-) This is via Paul A, who was there.
I don't recall where they were before they got free-piled (he told me who it
was who had it, but I had no particular reason to store those bits in my
memory).
Noel
I?ve got a few books I?ve just pulled off the shelf and no longer want/need.
I?m hoping someone will give them a good home.
UNIX System Labs Inc UNIX(r) System V Release 4
Programmers Guide: System Services and Application Packaging Tools
Device Driver Interface/Driver-Kernel Interface (DDI/DKI) Reference Manual (2 copies)
AT&T 3B2/3B5/3B15 Computers Assembly Programming Manual
Sun Microsystems Inc (Sun Technical Reports)
The UNIX System - 1985
Sun 3 Architecture - 1986
I?m willing to split postage on mailing them wherever. If you are local (San Diego)
I?m willing to meet you wherever for an exchange and a coffee.
David
(Also posted on the Unix Heritage Society mailing list)
Hi everybody,
as I don't recall seeing this offer around here (may be just rusty memory on my side however...), I thought I'd forward this for good measure.
I'm considering making the 2k mi trip together with my Dad but would do so only as a last resort to save the machine from being scrapped.
I think I have some excess CPU boards, maybe a clock board, spacers and PCU/fan boxes from a gutted E4k class machine here (southern Germany) so I might be able to help people looking for parts.
So long,
Arno // DO4NAK
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 14:26:06 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Mike Spooner<mikes at aalin.co.uk>
> To: The Rescue List<rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: [rescue] Very Last Chance - E6000 and/or parts
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> In spite of my efforts to find a good home for my 18x250MHz Sun Enterprise E6000 a couple of months ago, I still have it. Unfortunately, the house is now sold and the E6000 needs to be gone by next Sunday.I can store it at work for a few weeks whilst sorting out shipping etc for any takers.
> I am located on the Isle of Man, so most of you won't be able to just drive round and pick it up!
> Thus I'm willing to split it up into it's constituent modules - if you need PCMs, CPU/Mem boards, I/O boards, a disk board, clock module, peripheral power supply, Sun FC transcievers, memory DIMMs, QFE SBus cards, keyswitch module, peripheral cable harness, etc to keep your E3000/4000/5000/6000 sprightly and running,*please* drop me a line, ASAP. At a pinch, I might even be able to extract the 16-slot Gigaplane backplane from the steel chassis.
> Alternatively, if you know of anyone else who might be interested,*please* pass this message and my email-address on to them.
> I'll post the full list of component modules/parts here in a day or so.
> -- Mike Spooner
Hi,
I am restoring a Computer Automation Alpha LSI/2 minicomputer and need some help with software documentation.?I have a?Computer Automation Alpha LSI/2 minicomputer and cards, and I have binary images of the paper tapes, but I don't have the manual for using the software library tools.
By any chance does anyone have any of the documentation for the standard software library that came with the machine? BLD, OMEGA, LAMBDA, STP, etc? There was a standard paper tape that had all the basic software for assembly language coding and for loading and linking. The tape images are on bitsavers.org, but the manuals don't seem to be available.
The manual was called the Software Documentation Manual.?
Thanks for your help.
David Carroll