test-drb April 2002

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cure equiepement that was in the rain... best practices???

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002; Enrico Badella <enrico.badella(a)softstar.it> wrote: Re: cure equiepement that was in the rain... best practices??? > I ve this nice question for all of you... what are the best ways to > cure boxes that were out exposed to the weather for an unknown amount > of time. > Last week I managed to get my hands on 2 vaxstations 4000/60, a Cisco > MGS, a HP Apollo 700 workstation, Sun Sparcstation 20 (WOW), a VAX 4000-300 > and a Panasonic 7330. All have varying degree of dampness 8-((. At the > moment I have them in house dry and warm... should I stuff them in the oven > at low temperature and force a drying or best let them settle for some time. I've seen both done. A few years back, a tree fell into the back of my garage. The main hole in the roof was directly over and IBM workstation and its 19" monitor. Many gallons of water funneled down through that hole and into the monitor. In addition to the water, there was the the gravel off the roof shingles as well as small pieces of tree branches, leaves, and bark that got into the monitor. Since the priority was the garage, the machine and monitor got moved to the barn where they sat for almost a year. That meant they went through a fall, winter and spring before I dealt with them again. Since the insurance covered the workstation, I decided to just not mess with it. With full knowledge of what had happened, a friend of mine said he would like to have it. I gave it to him and after a little clean up he gave it the 'magic smoke' test. AFAIK, he is still using the machine. OTOH, I used to work for a Federal agency and they had a supply depot & repair facility. I toured it once and watched them dunk a 100 watt UHF tube type transmitter into a tank of cleaning solution. They then put it into a huge oven for a period of time. I have no idea for how long nor at what temperature, but the units went back out into the field and worked fine. Mike

22 years, 8 months

CDROMs and RT-11

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

I don't know if anyone is interested, but I suspect that I have found a way to set-up a dual file structure CD for RT-11. It would initially be started under Windows 98, although that is not required. I have yet to actually test my concept in practice since I don't think I have the required hardware on my Windows 98 system and I don't have a working CDROM on my real PDP-11. However, in principle I don't see why it will not work based on the information I have been able to gather during the last couple of months since I acquired a CD-RW CDROM drive. If you are interested, please contact me and I will write a full report. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

22 years, 8 months

Download CD images for RSX-11 and RT-11 Freeware CDs from Tim Shoppa

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Any reasonably modern BSD-based system should have the md5 program >preinstalled. If not, you should be able to find it at I think you'll find he's running a much older version of BSD called W98 : Someone seems to have kindly backported MD5 to that platform: http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/freeware/console/ Antonio

22 years, 8 months

The CommodoreOne is near!

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 15, Ben Franchuk wrote: > > I'd say the biggest problem will be filling all the orders. I'd probably > > be looking for a contract manufacturer in her place. > > Give her time ... Cloning is not quite up to speed yet. Hmm, can I place an advance order? -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!" St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill

22 years, 8 months

UPS was Re: Need Burroughs Tape Spec's

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Dave McGuire > > On April 16, John R. Keys Jr. wrote: > > UPS delivered my Burroughs tape unit model BU4180 yesterday but it was > > destroyed. They must have dropped it from a high place as this thing > > weighs in at almost 80 pounds.. > > I'm wondering how UPS manages to stay in business anymore. I've > shipped about four things via UPS in the past year, and EVERY ONE OF > THEM arrived damaged to some extent. WTF?? > > -Dave > > -- > Meanwhile, I personally have never had a problem with UPS, and with the volume of packages coming & going in this building, I've never seen anything bad either. Maybe just a moron for a driver? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

22 years, 8 months

Edge of OT: Quotes [was: FWD: Goodbye VAX hello ALpha]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Cameron Kaiser > > > Mmmm, Windows user. Crunchy and good with ketchup. > > .sig dibs! > > -- > ----------------------------- personal page: > http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- > Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * > ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu > -- Mmmm, Windows user. Crunchy and good with ketchup. -- Dave McGuire > --------- > > Well, the way I like it is... "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup." I don't know who the author is, but this web page seems to say that it was derived from J.R.R. Tolkien.. http://ftp.logica.com/~stepneys/cyc/m/meddle.htm ... which leads to... http://ftp.logica.com/~stepneys/cyc/u/unix.htm ...which brings it back around to being on topic, I hope :) --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

22 years, 8 months

cure equiepement that was in the rain... best practices???"

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> Douglas H. Quebbeman wrote: > > Using a small area of the board where you could correct any damage > > that this substance might cause, try a little CLR... it's a mixture > > sold throughout the midwest (U.S.) that dissolves Calcium, Lime, and > > Rust deposits. Phosphoric acid is one of its components... so be real > > careful. I've never used it on PC boards before, but it can't be beaten > > for removing corrosion off metal parts. > > I've thought about picking some CLR up, but don't really have a current > use for it. You mention that it will remove corrosion, does that include rust? I use CLR for: * cleaning the coffeepot (rinse with vinegar afterward) * decalcifying the showerhead * removing rust from nuts, bolts, etc. hardware. * removing rust stains from the clothes washer * making copper pennies be shiny again As others mention, after you clean rust off metal, it will begin to rust almost immediately. I usually use a lubricant made by BG Industries called 'HK' afterward, to prevent corrossion, but sometimes settle for WD-40. If you leave ferrous metals in too long, some ionization process starts to leave a dark film on the parts. It looks ugly, but so far, those parts don't further rust (but the dark film looks like corrosion itself though I don't think it is). hth, -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

22 years, 8 months

DELQA/DEQNA Cab Kits question

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I should know this, but can't remember, are the Cab Kits for the DEQNA and DELQA interchangable? I was up in storage today and I seem to have more DEQNA Cab Kits than DEQNA's and the only DEQNA I could find was in a system, and I've got two DELQA's and no DELQA Cab Kits. On a possitive note, the Palm Pilot "Field Guide" I asked about last weekend came in very handy as I couldn't remember what boards I had (and of course my inventory list was at home). I ended up bringing home a lot more than I planned on as I found a couple of cool boards :^) Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

22 years, 8 months

OT email response format (was Re: TTL computing)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 16, Christopher Smith wrote: > Sorry -- I, for one, would jump at the chance to use a real mail > client. It would keep me from having to wrap my own lines (!) :/ So, why don't you use a real mail client...? -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Mmmm. Big." St. Petersburg, FL -Den

22 years, 8 months

OT email response format (was Re: TTL computing)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com > [mailto:pat@cart-server.purdueriots.com] > I know some people aren't great typists or use funky (eg. > Outlook) email > clients, but to me it helps make the message much more readable. Sorry -- I, for one, would jump at the chance to use a real mail client. It would keep me from having to wrap my own lines (!) :/ Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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