Yep, and old and well known program.
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: TTL computing
>Well Palasm4 v1.5 is the last version of that, and I use it all the
time. It
>was still a freebie on the LATTICE website last time I looked.
>
>Dick
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "ajp166" <ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net>
>To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:39 PM
>Subject: Re: TTL computing
>
>
>> Entirely likely, I did get a lot of stuff from MMI over the years
>> and some of the other related companies. I still have and use
>> PALASM and PALASM90.
>>
>> Allison
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
>> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>> Date: Monday, April 15, 2002 3:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: TTL computing
>>
>>
>> >It may, in fact be about the same as my old version. I got mine from
>> MMI back
>> >when THEY were the ones pushing FPGA technology.
>> >
>> >Dick
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "ajp166" <ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net>
>> >To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>> >Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:13 AM
>> >Subject: Re: TTL computing
>> >
>> >
>> >> Xact, and older, much older version. I'd get the version number
>> >> but the termcap file is OTL and I'm working on something else
>> >> right now. That and a few bits provided by Tim olmstead to help
>> >> with simulation. He was the one that got me into using them.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Allison
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
>> >> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>> >> Date: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:46 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: TTL computing
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Do these tools have names, Allison? My old DOS-based tool for
FPGA
>> >> >development, from MMI, was called XACT, and that's what was
intended
>> for
>> >> the
>> >> >2000-series devices. A later version supported the 3000 series.
>> >> >
>> >> >Which tools do you use for developing both 2000 and 3000-series
>> >> bitstreams?
>> >> >
>> >> >Dick
>> >> >
>> >> >----- Original Message -----
>> >> >From: "ajp166" <ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net>
>> >> >To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>> >> >Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 8:28 PM
>> >> >Subject: Re: TTL computing
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Which tools are you referring to, Allison?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> OLD tools, as in dos based.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >I've found that the tools I once used with the old (pre-1990)
>> 2064's,
>> >> >> don't
>> >> >> >work with the 3000-series, and, though I have some 3000-series
>> parts
>> >> >> (which,
>> >> >> >back when I bought them, cost about $200 each) I've not figured
>> out a
>> >> >> way to
>> >> >> >program them using the old XACT or the more recent "Foundation"
>> >> >> software.
>> >> >> >They clearly are no longer supported with current software.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Neither have I. I also have the Synario package too. They
phased
>> out
>> >> >> the tools for the 2064s a long time ago.
>> >> >>
>> >> >I have Synario for the Atmel devices. It's a Windows-based tool
>> based,
>> >> I
>> >> >think, on a tool set originally cooked up by Data I/O.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
> They are? I'm pretty sure I used a DEQNA cabinet kit with a
> DELQA on a MVII for years.
It would also help explain why I've got 2 DELQA's without cab kits, and an
extra DEQNA Cab Kit.
On a positive note, the VAXstation II/RC I stole the DEQNA from needs a
DELQA if I ever get it running and the PDP-11/23+ can make do with a DEQNA.
Zane
On April 15, Doc wrote:
> > > I should know this, but can't remember, are the Cab Kits for the DEQNA and
> > > DELQA interchangable?
> >
> > In one word, yes. Of course the little label on the panel won't change
> > to reflect the card change on the other side.
>
> Even though the pinouts are quite different?
I have used unmodified DEQNA cab kits on DELQAs with good
results...how do the pinouts differ?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!"
St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill
Chris,
I'm going to try BOCHS. I'll report what I find......
- Matt
At 04:36 PM 4/15/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com
>
> > > I was hoping to find a way to run trusty OS/2 on my laptop
> > when I wasn't
> > > busy with work......
>
> > They stopped trying to support it in the 2.x days. I got Warp 3 to
> > partially boot, but that's all IIRC. I'd say go find
> > yourself a copy of
> > partition magic (or fips) and dual-boot if you want to play
> > with OS/2. :)
>
>Will BOCHS run on that version of windows? You may have a chance with
>that too -- I've heard that it would boot OS/2, but that's second hand
>information.
>
>Chris
>
>
>Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
>Amdocs - Champaign, IL
>
>/usr/bin/perl -e '
>print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
>'
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com
> > I was hoping to find a way to run trusty OS/2 on my laptop
> when I wasn't
> > busy with work......
> They stopped trying to support it in the 2.x days. I got Warp 3 to
> partially boot, but that's all IIRC. I'd say go find
> yourself a copy of
> partition magic (or fips) and dual-boot if you want to play
> with OS/2. :)
Will BOCHS run on that version of windows? You may have a chance with
that too -- I've heard that it would boot OS/2, but that's second hand
information.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
From: Ben Franchuk <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca>
>> If you buy a moderately cheap CPLD, e.g. the XILINX 95108, in a
PLCC84, it
>> costs about $20-30 U.S. at DigiKey. Combine that with a socket, ($4
tops) and
>> a few wirewrap socket pins, ($.10 each) that's another $8.40. Now
find a
>> cheap wirewrap board to which you can solder ... and then use the free
>> software and build the ~$5 ISP adapter.
>Has anybody done that?
I've done this with other similar packaged devices and it flies.
>I have a nice FPGA prototype kit, (altera) but I am having problems
>getting A PROM for it. I may go to using smaller chips like the XC-9572
>(72 macro cells) ? $12 canadian. They don't make wire wrap PLCC sockets
What prom are you looking for?
I'm still playing with some 2064s and 3030s and 3050s, yes they are old
but
the tools were free, the parts cheap and easy to load up with a 2816/64.
Allison
On April 15, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> > Mmmm, Windows user. Crunchy and good with ketchup.
>
> .sig dibs!
Heh, go for it!
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!"
St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill
On April 15, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> > > > I'd say the biggest problem will be filling all the orders. I'd probably
> > > > be looking for a contract manufacturer in her place.
>
> > > Give her time ... Cloning is not quite up to speed yet.
>
> > Hmm, can I place an advance order?
>
> I do hope you're referring to the *computer*.
;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!"
St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill
>> I was wondering if any of you know of a good power supply rebuilders in
>> the UK?
>
>Never needed one ;-)
I hear the sound of a volunteer :-)
>> order a new industrial PSU to supply these voltages/currents (plus
>
>Well, I'd rather keep the machine as original as possible (if only to
>make repairs easier in the future), not to mention the cost of a custom PSU
This machine used to at least power up without
exploding at least two owner's ago. It seems to
be the same machine reported as having a 2.5V
REGFAIL about four years ago ... so it's not
been powered off for a *really* log time.
OTOH, the PSU blocks do need to be plugged
back in correctly otherwise something
*will* go phut very loudly.
I'll go read the printset as soon as I dig it
out, it may have details of what goes where.
>NO!. SMPSUs do not like being run in parallel (unless designed to be used
>like that). One PSU will end up attempting to supply all the current and
>the other PSUs may not like having voltages applied to their outputs.
And once the first one drops dead, the next
most "powerful" one repeats the process.
Proof by "induction" left as an exercise :-)
Antonio
Guys,
Anyone have any luck running OS/2 under an emulator on Windows 2000?
Just wondering. I tried installing OS/2 Warp 3 on my copy of VMWare 3, and
it (VMWare) got mad and won't allow it to install. The web site says VMWare
will not (and has no intention of) support OS/2.
I was hoping to find a way to run trusty OS/2 on my laptop when I wasn't
busy with work......
Thanks!
- Matt
Matthew Sell
Programmer
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