> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zane H. Healy [mailto:healyzh@aracnet.com]
> Isn't Geo Works the only legitamate choice? ISTR, that it's
Well, what do you consider legitimate? If you're talking about
"piracy" problems, no, minix is not only still available but
is also available now under a free-to-use license with source.
> been renamed
> and is still available with a lot of extra apps. I believe
> that a 286 is
> now the minimum requirement.
Exactly why I'd go with an older version ;) ... but you're right,
he could use the newer one, which is now called "New Deal Desktop."
(I like "Geo Works" better)
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
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Has anyone seen this news posting?
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Goodbye VAX hello ALpha
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 22:55:13 -0400
From: Bill Gunshannon
Organization: University of Scranton
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
References: <3Hmt8.2238$GS6.168438(a)bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Deane Williams <dwilliams296(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> Hello
> Just wondering is there a reseller/company that will take
> VAXes in trade for Alphas?? I'm talking about 3100s and
> even some 4000/XXX and 36/38XX series VAX.
And after they get done rolling onthe floor laughing you could put them
on a truck and send them up here. I can at least promise they won't be
taking up space in a landfill.
bill
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> From: pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com
>
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Ethan Dicks wrote:
>
> > You also cannot attach two tranceivers through a gender bender and get
> > anywhere, even if you provide power. OTOH, there are devices like the
> > DEC DELNI that do have multiple AUIs, but again, it's designed for it.
>
> They have a bunch of these over at Purdue Salvage. I think I might grab
> one for 'fun'. Let me know if anyone else wants any. If not, is there
> anything 'useful' inside? If they aren't wanted by anyone, I'd rather
> scrap them for parts then see them in a landfill.
>
> -- Pat
>
Well, the shipping would probably be fairly cheap, since they don't
weight too much. Grab me one if they're free, I'd toss it in my DEC rack...
:)
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Yeah, I wonder what this Deane guy has exactly to get rid of...
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> ----------
> From: Dave McGuire
>
>
> Mmmm, Windows user. Crunchy and good with ketchup.
>
> -Dave
>
> On April 15, David Woyciesjes wrote:
> > Has anyone seen this news posting?
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Goodbye VAX hello ALpha
> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 22:55:13 -0400
> From: Bill Gunshannon
>
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Deane Williams <dwilliams296(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Hello
> > Just wondering is there a reseller/company that will take
> > VAXes in trade for Alphas?? I'm talking about 3100s and
> > even some 4000/XXX and 36/38XX series VAX.
>
> And after they get done rolling onthe floor laughing you could put them
> on a truck and send them up here. I can at least promise they won't be
> taking up space in a landfill.
>
> bill
> --
> >
> > --- David A Woyciesjes
> > --- C & IS Support Specialist
> > --- Yale University Press
> > --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu
> > --- (203) 432-0953
> > --- ICQ # - 905818
> > Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST
> 2001
> > Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash
> >
>
> --
> Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!"
> St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill
>
>
Xact, and older, much older version. I'd get the version number
but the termcap file is OTL and I'm working on something else
right now. That and a few bits provided by Tim olmstead to help
with simulation. He was the one that got me into using them.
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: TTL computing
>Do these tools have names, Allison? My old DOS-based tool for FPGA
>development, from MMI, was called XACT, and that's what was intended for
the
>2000-series devices. A later version supported the 3000 series.
>
>Which tools do you use for developing both 2000 and 3000-series
bitstreams?
>
>Dick
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "ajp166" <ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net>
>To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 8:28 PM
>Subject: Re: TTL computing
>
>
>> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
>>
>>
>> >Which tools are you referring to, Allison?
>>
>>
>> OLD tools, as in dos based.
>>
>> >I've found that the tools I once used with the old (pre-1990) 2064's,
>> don't
>> >work with the 3000-series, and, though I have some 3000-series parts
>> (which,
>> >back when I bought them, cost about $200 each) I've not figured out a
>> way to
>> >program them using the old XACT or the more recent "Foundation"
>> software.
>> >They clearly are no longer supported with current software.
>>
>>
>> Neither have I. I also have the Synario package too. They phased out
>> the tools for the 2064s a long time ago.
>>
>I have Synario for the Atmel devices. It's a Windows-based tool based,
I
>think, on a tool set originally cooked up by Data I/O.
>>
>
>
A number of Compaq portables require special software to do the setup. I
don't remember if the SLT286 is one of them, but I emailed the guy directly
with a link to the SLT group on Yahoo (compaqslt(a)yahoogroups.com), where
someone should be able to help him out.
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:05 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: OP SYS SETUP
> >>WHERE CAN I FIND A FREE WIN OP SYS SETUP SOFTWARE FOR MY COMPAQ SLT286?
> >>IT ALREADY HAS DOS/WIN INSTALLED BUT I CANNOT ACCESS IT- WIN? WIN3.1?
> >>I DUUHHHH DUNNO....!!!
>
> >Alternatively, find
Before we get into arguing about "better" configurations, ..
Does anybody know what the f he's asking about?
Is his machine broken?
Is it working perfectly, but he doesn't know how to "access" it?
Is it the machine that he's writing with?
Perhaps fixing the shift key on his active machine should be a higher
priority.
<I'm fighting back the temptation to reply in all caps with <b><i> s
all over the place....>
Tried Minix? It would probably really scream on that machine, being
a 286... If you belive that it had windows at one point, I'll assume
you have a hard drive (Minix doesn't require it, but it's nice to
have)
I have used Minix on a Leading Edge XT clone with 512k or RAM. It
runs perfectly well there. :)
Alternatively, find yourself a copy of Geo Works, which will like your
286 fine, and has a much better GUI than windows 95.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
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-----Original Message-----
From: mikeykmc(a)hotmail.com [mailto:mikeykmc@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:58 AM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: OP SYS SETUP
WHERE CAN I FIND A FREE WIN OP SYS SETUP SOFTWARE FOR MY COMPAQ SLT286? IT ALREADY HAS DOS/WIN INSTALLED BUT I CANNOT ACCESS IT- WIN? WIN3.1? I DUUHHHH DUNNO....!!!
> From port-vax-owner-clowenst=ucsd.edu(a)netbsd.org Mon Apr 15 08:53 PDT 2002
> Delivered-To: port-vax(a)netbsd.org
> From: David Woyciesjes <DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu>
> To: "NetBSD/Vax Mail List \(E-mail\)" <port-vax(a)netbsd.org>,
> "classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org \(E-mail\)" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Kinda OT?: Looking for rackmount screw sets....
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:00:59 -0400
>
> Well, I just acquired a 5' x 3' x 2' IBM AS400 drive cabinet. F--n
> heavy!
> Now, to mount equipment in it, I need to find some more of those
> clip-on T-nut kinda things, which clip on around the hole in the rails, so
> you then use the supplies screws to mount your equipment. Some older DEC
> racks used the same thing.
> Anybody know where I can get a dozen or two of these screw mount
> sets? For a reasonable price? And what are they called?
Tinnerman nuts. Google search returns 1350 hits.
carl
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Does anyone have the pinout for the db25 console port? Assuming that
the 25-pin bulkhead connector marked "Console" is a serial console port?
Also, I understand that a M8981-AA is a 2M board and a -BA is a 4M
board. How do I find out which? This one just shows M8981 with no
suffix, and "KDJ11-E CPU" on the processor side.
It is without a doubt the prettiest processor chip I've ever seen.
Doc, trying VERY hard not to brag or gloat.
On April 15, John Foust wrote:
> At 07:13 PM 4/14/2002 +0100, you wrote:
> >However, how is it better than desoldering the LED on the card, soldering
> >a connector in its place, and running a couple of wires to the LED on the
> >front panel?
>
> Uhm, "better"? On this side of the pond, we usually go
> for "easy" or "well-marketed". :-)
Well, *some* of us do.
-Dave
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