test-drb April 2002

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 16, Carlini, Antonio wrote: > > Any reasonably modern BSD-based system should have the md5 > program > >preinstalled. If not, you should be able to find it at > > I think you'll find he's running a much older > version of BSD called W98 : Hmm. Well, that's a problem that's easy to solve. :) -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Mmmm. Big." St. Petersburg, FL -Den

22 years, 3 months

UPS was Re: Need Burroughs Tape Spec's

by mythtech＠mac.com

> If FedEx dropped their price a little I think more people >would use them vice UPS. I don't do heavy FedEx Ground shipping (although I do heavey FedEx Express shipping, so the discount may carry over, I don't know), but in my limited uses of FedEx Ground, they are between $5 and $25 cheaper than UPS Ground depending on distance, weight, and size. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 3 months

The CommodoreOne is near!

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: John Chris Wren [mailto:jcwren@jcwren.com] > Jesus. And people wonder why women have a hard time in the industry. Um, I think this is getting pretty bad. On the other hand, I don't know (nor have I any idea whether anyone does) the target of all of this jest well enough to predict whether she'd have a problem with it. That said -- I will assume that "the industry" is on topic here and continue along those lines for a minute -- I don't know whether this is really an industry specific problem. It strikes me as occurring in many different social settings. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

22 years, 3 months

Champaign trip (aka DEC Galore)

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

I took a little trip over to Champaign, IL yesterday (Mon) and met up with fellow list member Chris Smith. Chris: Just to let you know, I made it home, hot & tired, but ok. It was good to meet you and visit for a while. No doubt, Chris spent yesterday evening going through the carload of stuff I took over to him. I'll let him tell about that. Don't let him get away with calling it his 'latest haul', because he didn't, it was 'home delivery'. :) After that I went to a little town about 12 miles southwest of Champaign. It is named Sadorus and has a population of around 400. It just occurred to me, this town probably holds the record for DEC per capita. Anyway, I stopped at a place called C-U Digital. There I found a warehouse, roughly 8,000 sq. ft., filled with nothing but DEC. A summary of what I saw: Stacks of 5000/2xx DECstations, boxes of LK201/401 keyboards, piles of DECserver 90's, several RAxx drives, several StorageWorks cabinets, a mess of RF7x DSSI drives, a few Alpha servers, several RAID cabinets. This is just the short list. I'd go on but I don't want to be the cause of excess drooling. :) Chris: IIRC, they have VT100 keyboards, and a few still in original packing. Kevin Craft, the owner, was away on a fishing trip, so I talked with this brother Keith. It seems they are still doing a good business, supplying die-hard customers with DEC hardware. He related one recent story where a customer wanted to replace a couple dying VR260 monitors, only the customer insisted that they be new units. I did get a few prices and as expected they are a lot higher than what we list members would prefer. IIRC, an RRD42/43 for around $75, or an RF73 for around $50. About the only good price I heard was around $10 for about any DEC drive mounting bracket. Granted I have found them for less than half that, but those deals are getting fewer and farther between. I guess I can't fault these two for the prices, after all, selling DEC is their livelihood. Keith did mention the amounts of stuff setting around that has not sold in years. For example, a pallet full of DELNI's. I brought up the the subject of this mailing list and hobbyists who are always looking for various items. I then mentioned that selling a mess of DELNI's for a few bucks to hobbyists was better than setting on a pallet gathering dust. He went defensive on me, stating that as soon as he does that, he will get a call from a faithful customer wanting dozens of them. Of course that was Keith talking and Kevin is the boss. I know from past dealings that Kevin is a little more receptive to some ideas. I did get an agreement that sounds promising. I know where this a local cache of DEC, removed from service and setting dormant. The place has a habit of letting stuff set for around five years and then just tossing it. Even with that, I can't seem to talk them out of anything now. I suspect that is because 1) I am cheap, 2) I am just some individual who wandered in. I told Keith that I would get an inventory and he can make an offer, and if it goes through I would like a couple of the machines as a finder's fee. He agreed. The big sour note, I recognized some single drive expansion boxes. However, the DEC badge had been replaced with a Compaq. Compaq actually went to the trouble of having the plastic badge inserts remade in their image. Fortunately, I had not yet had lunch. Well, I have rambled enough. If there is a DEC item that you just absolutely, positively have to have regardless of the price then you might want to contact them. Kevin Craft C-U Digital 100 W. Market St. (the main drag thru town) Sadorus, IL 61872 (217) 598-2424 kaccudigital(a)aol.com (Kevin's or Keith's, I don't know which) Mike

22 years, 3 months

TTL computing

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 16, Richard Erlacher wrote: > Last month, I had to build a programmer for a microcontroller. It required > only three components other than the MCU. There was an oscillator, a MAX232A, > and a 74HCT125. I had no trouble getting a suitable oscillator, and I > generally have a few MAX232's around. It took weeks to find the HCT125, > though, given that I didn't want to pay $10 for shipping of a $.25 part. In > the meantime, I'd built the thing with a GAL16V8. Overkill, well, true, but I > didn't have to deal with the widespread search. Hmm, Mouser has 74HCT125s in stock at $0.40. They're in SO-14 packages, but they've got 'em. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Mmmm. Big." St. Petersburg, FL -Den

22 years, 3 months

UPS was Re: Need Burroughs Tape Spec's

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 16, r. 'bear' stricklin wrote: > The 'missing packaging' photo is essentially what things looked like when > I opened the box. The rest of the photos detail the damage done. Clearly > this is not the fault of UPS. I couldn't have filed an insurance claim, > and it would've been unreasonable of me to have done so. The entire burden > of the damage was on the bonehead shipper who didn't pack the thing. To > the shipper's credit, he took responsibility and shipped me another one > (again, in an otherwise-empty box (grr!) but which arrived, mercifully, > intact). Hmm, does that vendor have any more of them? :) > The point is, UPS publishes packaging guidelines. Use them and be happy. > > Based on my experience, I'd have to say that your gripes with UPS > destroying packages might better be placed squarely on the inadequate use > of packing materials. My experience has been just the opposite, unfortunately. I rarely if ever receive anything that's been poorly packed, and I nearly always have problems with packages destroyed by UPS. I guess I'm just unlucky. :-/ -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Mmmm. Big." St. Petersburg, FL -Den

22 years, 3 months

The CommodoreOne is near!

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 16, John Chris Wren wrote: > What Chris said said it best. I don't know her. She may or may appreciate > the attempt at humor that seemingly has run a little long. I know very few > women who are designers. And I know *alot* of designers. I'd hate to see > someone get turned away because of perceived attitudes. That would be beyond terrible, yes. > By my take it should have ended about the comment that was something to > effect of "Clone Jeri or the Commodore-1?". Fair enough. > But then, one thing I have noticed about the list, besides being an > excellent wealth of information and intelligent people, is that some don't > know when to let something end. ...and some don't know when to relax. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Mmmm. Big." St. Petersburg, FL -Den

22 years, 3 months

Explain the NeXTStation "dim monitor" problem, etc...

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 16, Christopher Smith wrote: > Next, can anyone tell me why, after booting into single user mode, > and changing the root password with 'nu -m' I might still be > refused a login next time I boot? ... > A) It's getting another password from somewhere and overwriting the > one I put in? (I hope not.. :) It's been many years since I ran NeXTSTEP, so this might be useless...but does "nu" modify the netinfo database? If not, well, that might be the problem. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Mmmm. Big." St. Petersburg, FL -Den

22 years, 3 months

OT email response format (was Re: TTL computing)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 16, Christopher Smith wrote: > > So, why don't you use a real mail client...? > > ... because restrictions here are such that they don't mind me > using their pipe for personal things in a limited manner, but > they really hate for people to put any software on their system > (typical windows-using mindset, but let's not get into that :), > and I'm really trying to play by their rules. They have no > real mail client, in fact their installations of lookout(!) are > even more broken than usual. Oh, ouch... :-( -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Mmmm. Big." St. Petersburg, FL -Den

22 years, 3 months

The CommodoreOne is near!

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 16, Christopher Smith wrote: > > Jesus. And people wonder why women have a hard time in the industry. > > Um, I think this is getting pretty bad. On the other hand, I don't > know (nor have I any idea whether anyone does) the target of all of > this jest well enough to predict whether she'd have a problem with it. > > That said -- I will assume that "the industry" is on topic here and > continue along those lines for a minute -- I don't know whether this > is really an industry specific problem. It strikes me as occurring in > many different social settings. It certainly does, though it seems to be worse in this industry. I've worked with many women in this business (indeed, the most talented programmer I've ever worked with is female)...the vast majority take stuff like this in the way it is intended (humorous and not disrespectful) and laugh about it, while a couple get offended. Those who take offense, well, us guys probably shouldn't say things like that to (or about) them...though I believe they need to relax a bit and find something different to get up-in-arms about. Now, if it interferes with the career progress or professional respect of the person in question, that's a WHOLE different story...that is wholly unacceptable and must not be tolerated. This is a JOKE, it is FUN, and the moment it steps beyond that (for either party) it needs to stop. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Mmmm. Big." St. Petersburg, FL -Den

22 years, 3 months

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test-drb April 2002