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Diagnosing a non-working Mac Performa 476?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Hans B Pufal > > Chris wrote: > > > So you would press Command-Option-P-R. Hold these down right after > > hearing the startup bong, and continue to hold them until you hear the > > Mac bong again. It is recommended that you do this until it bongs 3 > times > > total (just keep holding them down). I don't know exactly why, but that > > is what Apple's TIL suggests. > > Being an Apple newbie, what is TIL and where can I get one? > > -- hbp > > "Technical Information Library". It can be found at Apple's website. http://www.info.apple.com/new/site5/ -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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[CCTECH] OpenVMS/DEC Alpha question

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Erik S. Klein > > I'm not sure if this is yet an appropriate question for this > list, but it has to be close. > > I have a DEC Alpha 1000/266 (nearly 10 years old, right?) > running OpenVMS 6.2 and I'm having what should be a simple > problem with it. . . > > The system boots to the console fine. From that point, when > I boot from the boot device I get an error indicating that > there is insufficient disk space on that boot device for one > or more processes. This error cycles and the machine never > boots to the operating system, so I'm never at a point where > I can clean up the offending disk. > > I know there has to be a way to fix this. I'm sure it's > probably really simple, too. I'm just not familiar enough > with this operating system or machine to know what to do. > > Are there any OpenVMS sages out there with any suggestions? > > Erik S. Klein > _______________________________________________ > I'm not sure what the incantation is, but booting to single-user mode should help you out. At least get it up enough to clean house. -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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[CCTECH] LIST ADMIN

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Greetings fellow classiccmp'ers For the next few weeks or so - I've decided that I need a total break from list administration - a "vacation" if you will. I'll still be on the list and read it (the threads that interest me) actively as always, but ALL list administration/moderation/management duties need to be temporarily handled by someone else for a bit. Effective immediately any questions, comments, requests, suggestions, complaints, etc. relating to either the cctech or cctalk lists should be directed to Jeff Sharp. During my "list admin vacation" he is to be considered completely empowered to make any and all decisions relating to either cctalk & cctech. I have asked him to check with me before implementing any really major changes, as I will definitely be taking list administration back over in the near future. This will also allow some renewed focus on getting the list FAQ whipped into shape, some much needed changes to the classiccmp website, and yes, the classiccmp mailing list archives getting straightened out (and searchable). As a side note, once I get back from my "vacation" I will likely need a few volunteers to help approve non-member postings, etc. I try to do that many times a day right now, but it would be nice if a few other people checked too once in a while to ensure things are timely. Regards, Jay West _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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Tandy 1000 for sale

by RichardPRic＠aol.com

FOR SALE. TANDY 1000 w/2 5-1/4" DRIVES, KEYBOARD, CPU, 12" MONITOR (COLOR OR MONO). MAKE BO RICHARDPRIC(a)AOL.COM.

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MS-DOS CD Burning Software and MAKEISO

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Burning both audio cd's and um, archival copies of >Playstation games (they were one of the first/best apps to do DAO copies >back when >the PSX first came out). What luck have you had in duping a PSX disc? Does it work native or do you still need a "mod" of some kind on the PSX deck? I ask because I am still on the search for a non-"mod" way of doing backups. And honestly, I am really only looking to do backups (no really I am). My nephew likes to borrow my PSX discs now that I don't really play them much any more, only he doesn't seem to grasp what a jewel case is, and more often then not, I would get them back so scratched they would no longer play. So I am looking for a way to backups so I can go back to loaning him games and not worry about them being destroyed. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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[CCTECH] OpenVMS/DEC Alpha question

by classiccmp＠mail.vintage-computer.com

I'm not sure if this is yet an appropriate question for this list, but it has to be close. I have a DEC Alpha 1000/266 (nearly 10 years old, right?) running OpenVMS 6.2 and I'm having what should be a simple problem with it. . . The system boots to the console fine. From that point, when I boot from the boot device I get an error indicating that there is insufficient disk space on that boot device for one or more processes. This error cycles and the machine never boots to the operating system, so I'm never at a point where I can clean up the offending disk. I know there has to be a way to fix this. I'm sure it's probably really simple, too. I'm just not familiar enough with this operating system or machine to know what to do. Are there any OpenVMS sages out there with any suggestions? Erik S. Klein _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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What is this? Looks like maybe a VAX of some sort..

by Innfogra＠aol.com

The pallet in the upper right of the second picture are the three UPSs. The Pallet in the upper left of the second picture is the HP 7820? Which I think is actually a 7920 50 Meg removable pack disk drive. My 1981 HP catalog lists them at $14,000 to 18,000 new. The pallet on the bottom right of the second picture is the HP 2608 printer, a 400 LPM printer. In 1981 list price was $9,900. The pallet in the lower left of the second picture is a printer in a crate. It does not look like another HP printer from what little I can see. I think the first picture is a MicroVAX system with the RA Disk drive on the top. I think it is the one listed at $154,000+ and called disk memory unit.

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Diagnosing a non-working Mac Performa 476?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Brian Chase > > > First thing to do would be re-initialize the "parameter RAM." Hit > > command-alt-p-r on power up. (I have seen corrupted PR cause this > > kind of problem.) There are also a couple of things that you can > > (very safely) reset with other hot-keys. You'll have to look them > > up, though. > > ... I tried the > command-alt-p-r thing with the existing batteries without luck, but > then there's no Alt key on this particular keyboard (Apple Keyboard II). > It only has command, ctrl, and option meta keys.. > > There is no [alt] key, because it's a.k.a. [option] key on later keyboards... :) The PRAM reset sequence is [command][option][P][R] I just may have some helpful pdf files around. Send me a note directly, and let me know as much of the machine name/type as you can. -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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drive "hood" parts[was: RE: DEC SDI drives]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Gunther Schadow > > Joe wrote: > > > At 12:14 PM 6/3/02 -0400, you wrote: > > > >>>From: Andreas Freiherr > >>> > >>>Gunther Schadow wrote: > >>> > >>>>... Then you can open the hood just like > >>>>in my car, check the alternator belt and I just haven't found the > >>>>oil dip stick yet :-). > >>>> > >>>My trouble with it is that the "hood" always bounces back on the rear > >>>part of my head, because the pressurized gas retainers have lost their > >>>magic smoke in the cause of the years. I am convinced it's impossible > >>>and perhaps even dangerous to repair (i.e., to repressurize) them, but > >>>is there a known good source for spare parts? > >>> > > > > > > Auto parts houses carry replacement struts. I bought a pair from > Discount Auto Parts. I think the cost was less than $8 each but that was a > couple of years ago. > > > Hehe, see, told ya, it's just like with a car. I usually go to Autozone, > but haven't checked on these struts yet. But then there is always a > poor man's hood prop rod that can be used :-) > > -- Of course, there's always the quick way to repair a strut that lost it's gas... Vise Grips (locking pliers). They're also an excellent replacement for the seat recliner lever. :) Then they're always at your side... -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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MS-DOS CD Burning Software and MAKEISO

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Richard, Goldenhawk also offers a freeware CD2CD.EXE program. Is this the one you are refering to? Bob -----Original Message----- From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:18 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: MS-DOS CD Burning Software and MAKEISO I've had access to lots of software for burning/duplicating CD's, and there's been none that produced results better than the freeware called CD2CD. A web search should turn this up. I've yet to see a package, under Windows or any other OS that surpasses it in reliability. In view of that, I'd not pay more than $0.01 for anything else. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 9:26 AM Subject: MS-DOS CD Burning Software and MAKEISO > I wasn't following the thread closely, and have deleted the posts, but I > want to add to the thread about burning ISO format CD's. > > I just ran across the following URL on another list. They sell ($39.00) > MS-DOS based CR-ROM burning software (16-bit and 32-bit), including a > MAKEISO program, that might be of interest. > > http://goldenhawk.com/dos_body.htm > > > Bob >

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DEC 3000/800 diag LEDs

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

Anyone know where I might be able to find out what the diag LEDs on my new '800 are telling me? I haven't been able to find much googling, but I might not be using the correct incantation. The LEDs stay on FD. I've tried with and without the red shorting jumper in the printer MMJ, with a vt320 on the printer MMJ, and with a vt320 on the DB25 port via an H8575-A both with and without the jumper. I do have a 3W3 cable to try the PMAGD-AA, but without a keyboard and mouse I really don't want to drag out the 21" monitor unless I have to. On a side note, what kind of keyboard and mouse does this use? Something compatible with an LK401, as in all I need is a little adapter box, or is it more complex than that? Bob

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The Future End of Classic Computing

by mythtech＠mac.com

>To go back to the hammer for a moment, if I go out and buy a hammer and >bash somebody's head in with it, then I am guilty of murder. The company >that made the hammer, and the shop that sold it to me, are not. And >that's how it should be. Scary thing is... here in the US, it doesn't seem to work that logically. People have been sueing gun manufacturers off and on because they made the gun that was used to kill someone. I don't know if anyone has WON a suit, but I do know the suits have been filed (and win or loose, you are costing the gun maker needless legal troubles). Sueing people has become so much the norm here... that the government has had to step in and offer insurance backing for the companies cleaning up the world trade center... because the companies know ALREADY that there will be lawsuits when they are done, and without insurance, they know they will be sued into bankruptcy. AND, since it is such a known fact that they will be sued... no insurance company was willing to insure them, which meant they weren't willing to do the work... so the government had to step in and offer backing. F-ing scary! Remember, this is the country that awarded 3 million dollars to a lady because she put her hot coffee in her lap, and then spilled it... and was able to sue McDonalds because the coffee was too hot and it burned her (yes, there is more to that story, but the fact that she was even able to get to trial is just f-ed up... where is the personal responsibility in this country?!?) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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MS-DOS CD Burning Software and MAKEISO

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

I wasn't following the thread closely, and have deleted the posts, but I want to add to the thread about burning ISO format CD's. I just ran across the following URL on another list. They sell ($39.00) MS-DOS based CR-ROM burning software (16-bit and 32-bit), including a MAKEISO program, that might be of interest. http://goldenhawk.com/dos_body.htm Bob

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HP 1000 E-Series

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Since I got nothing from posting to CCTech, I'll try CCTalk... Ok, I was feeling brave so I stuck power into the sucker and turned it on.. no magic smoke or burnt smell, lol, but I'm wondering if its normal for the extend light and the rox of lights for the registers yo light up and stay lit up. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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bunch of 670mp hardware in California on Ebay

by fernande＠internet1.net

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2028760587 Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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The prices on ebay are going UP

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Will Jennings" <xds_sigma7(a)hotmail.com> > >I thought such things were in some way against Ebay's user agreement or >something? Just wondering... > >Will J >> The closest I could find was this below. I'm not sure if it pertains to auto bidding? I don't know what a robot exclusion header is?? Dwight 7.Access and Interference. Our web site contains robot exclusion headers and you agree that you will not use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy our web pages or the content contained herein without our prior expressed written permission. You agree that you will not use any device, software or routine to bypass our robot exclusion headers, or to interfere or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the eBay site or any activities conducted on our site. You agree that you will not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on our infrastructure. Much of the information on our site is updated on a real time basis and is proprietary or is licensed to eBay by our users or third parties. You agree that you will not copy, reproduce, alter, modify, create derivative works, or publicly display any content (except for Your Information) from our website without the prior expressed written permission of eBay or the appropriate third party.

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[CCTECH] Cards to Identify

by Andreas.Freiherr＠Vishay.com

Hello again, not quite the kind of things I am collecting, so I need help with finding out what precisely this is, and if somebody might be looking for it. I saved a couple of boards from getting scrapped, and if nobody wants them in total, I'll be happy with the chips alone (all the significant ones are in sockets, so I needn't even solder to harvest ;-). So, heads up please if you know something about one of these boards or want to have one. Sorry, no pictures available (yet). According to date codes, all of the boards must be from late 1983 or 1984. The boards _look_ OK, but I cannot test any of them. 1) Ungermann-Bass ISA board, the old extra long format (approx. 340mm or 13.4"), appears to be a 2261A type Ethernet adapter (?), has 18 DRAM chips, Intel 80186, C82586, NEC D8255, 24-pin chip with heat sink (glued on, so I cannot read what's on the chip itself). At the panel, there is a 15-pin sub-D female connector with posts for retaining screws (didn't someone mention lately that some manufacturers had different opinions about the slide-lock retainer for AUI interfaces?) and a red 5mm LED. 2) Ungermann-Bass motherboard, approx. 385mm * 305mm (15.15" * 12"), marked "LPB3 6600" or "LPB3 MODEL 6410", with Z80A CPU, 2 Z80 CTCs, 64kb DRAM (32 * 4116), EPROM (I guess a 2716, did not peel off the sticker yet). Near the center of one of the long edges is a 10-pin power connector: +5, +5, GND, GND, +12, -12, GND, +24, -5, GND. Along one of the short edges are three 50-pin Berg-style connectors (no recognizable description, but two of them appear to be driven mainly by a bunch of 74LS374s). At opposite corner: 10-position LED array, 8-position switch array. Along the other long edge, an I/O board can be fitted, and there are two different boards fitted to the two motherboards I have: 2a) "MODEL 6402A": 2 * RS232, female 25-pin sub-D connector, labelled "SERIAL PORT 1" and "SERIAL PORT 2"; 1 * IEEE 488 (labelled so), real-time clock (guess so, there is an OKI MSM5832 chip, a crystal, and a 3.6V NiCd battery). Other chips: Z80ADART, Z80APIO, TMS9914A (IEEE488 controller), Z80ADMA. 2b) "MODEL 6401": 4 * RS232, female 25-pin sub-D connector, labelled "SERIAL PORT 1" through "...4", then "PARALLEL PORT 5" and "PARALLEL PORT 6". Chips: Z80APIO, 2 * Z80ASIO. 3) Qbus-like board, supposedly a CPU, handles made by DEC, board is 4 slots wide, labelled "PCS" (is that PCS CADMUS?), has Motorola MC68000L10, 4k SRAM (2*6116), 16k EPROM (2*2764), clock chip (MM58167), battery. Between the handles, there are two 40-pin 3M connectors (Berg style). The EPROMs have stickers saying MINITOR MINITOR R900.123 R900.123 E9 2.200LO E10 2.200HI Any hints? - In case you want to trade: I am still looking for a sound card for my friend's IBM PS/2 (Microchannel). I cannot buy one of those currently offered on eBay because they again won't ship outside U.S. - darn! -- Andreas Freiherr Vishay Semiconductor GmbH, Heilbronn, Germany http://www.vishay.com _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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1-800-DIGITAL

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, well, I made the call, tried to that is. Because of the bad power cable in the old BA23 enclosure. You were supposed to get a replacement when calling this number. However, as could have been expected, that number is no longer in service. The compaq number you are redirected to get's you into the world of compaq^H^H^H^H^H^HHP PC products. Not exactly where one would expect anyone to know about old promises that DEC made. I will make myself a replacement cable by cutting the old one and then just interposing wires with pigtails and a bit of electric tape around. I'll also use thicker cable. How hard can it be. -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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The prices on ebay are going UP

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I thought such things were in some way against Ebay's user agreement or something? Just wondering... Will J _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Making an MMJ to DE25-F adapter

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Unfortunately, my MMJ to DB25 adapter is made in such a way that I can't >see inside to tell which wires go to which pins. All I can do is assume >that the wire colors are the "standard" colors, i.e. green/red in the >center, black/yellow one pair out, etc. You can do a lot better than assume: use a multimeter and see what goes where! If you don't have a meter, try a bulb, a battery and some wires :-) Unless you enjoy guesswork, wiring details are to be found in the OpenVMS FAQ http://www.openvms.compaq.com/wizard/openvms_faq.html >I found a source to sell me an adapter to do exactly what I need (this >adapter is what I thought I was getting in the first place, I didn't >realize I was getting a "make it yourself kit"). So I figured I might as >well order it and save myself a lot o f headaches. It should be here >tomorrow. But you are missing out on so much fun :-) Antonio

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drive "hood" parts[was: RE: DEC SDI drives]

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Don't leave out the junkyard! I'd bet I could get them from Subarus like mine for free, they don't charge for stuff like emblems, etc... At worst, I'd say the junkyard I go to would want $1.49 for one, plus tax... Will J _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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[CCTECH] PDP-11/60 in UK on eBay

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2028620247 The seller is Swan Computers. This was up for 500UKP the other week and attracted no bids. They also appear to have parted out a VAX 8650 and a PDP-11/70 too. OTOH it seems to be reasonably common practice when acquiring the Nth large machine to strip the useful bits (boards, cables, cab kits, PSUs etc.) and ditch the cabinet to save on storage costs. So maybe these boards have been out of a machine for quite a while now. Antonio

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[CCTECH] Cards to Identify

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 3, 15:23, Andreas Freiherr wrote: > yes, I also remember having seen PDP-11/VAX peripherals controlled by a > 68000. However, with this board, I am not quite sure if it is Qbus or > UNIBUS at all. I'd have to trace the connections, but before doing so, > my suspicion is that this was some different kind of system with the > Motorola centipede being the main processor. > > And, no, I did not notice any particular driver chips like the 1488/1489 > (or maybe 75188/75189, or some of those 8-pin chips from the DLV-11/J, > or...). The absence of such chips together with the large number of pins > makes me think this might be a separate memory bus, similar to what the > MicroVAX II had. To me, this sounds like a CADMUS 68000 CPU, made in Germany. I've not had much experience of them, but I've seen a couple. They used a 68000 (or maybe 68010), on a quad-height card, in a Q-Bus backplane. It's a long time since I've seen one, but I seem to remember an over-the-top memory connection, not unlike a microVAX. I do remember that a lot of the support boards didn't have handles, and tended to sag, so that they had to have bits of folded card and BluTak inserted to stop them shorting together after a few years. The CADMUS systems I saw ran UNIX, a System III derivative, I think, and were used in the Department of Building at the Heriot-Watt University. I've just had a look to see if I still have any Cadmus docs, but I can't find any :-( -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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What was that mystic Commodore 6509 computer?

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

There was this computer Commodore was going to make and then pulled out of the market. It was based on the 6509 CPU, I guess right before the 6510 / C64. I thought then as now that the case was especially nicely shaped (such beautiful round corners, reminescent of my 91 Chevy Caprice.) I still remember when all those boards came onto the surplus market in a German electronics mail order catalog. When Commodore pulled them all from the market. I actually bought one back then, because I needed a replacement SID or something like that (I don't remember.) So, now I was looking for something in my old junk box and that board fell back into my hands. I think I don't need it any more, may be there is some collector here who would appreciate that board and bring it to life? Nothice that this is not a running system. It's just a mother board and all ROMs are pulled. The 6509 is on there and I'll be darned if it wasn't still good. cheers, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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drive "hood" parts[was: RE: DEC SDI drives]

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 12:14 PM 6/3/02 -0400, you wrote: >> From: Andreas Freiherr >> >> Gunther Schadow wrote: >> > >> > ... Then you can open the hood just like >> > in my car, check the alternator belt and I just haven't found the >> > oil dip stick yet :-). >> >> My trouble with it is that the "hood" always bounces back on the rear >> part of my head, because the pressurized gas retainers have lost their >> magic smoke in the cause of the years. I am convinced it's impossible >> and perhaps even dangerous to repair (i.e., to repressurize) them, but >> is there a known good source for spare parts? Auto parts houses carry replacement struts. I bought a pair from Discount Auto Parts. I think the cost was less than $8 each but that was a couple of years ago. Joe

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Commodore 128 LED re-install???

by fernande＠internet1.net

Okay, How do I re-install the double LED power indicator? It doesn't have a screw holding it, it doesn't seem to push into anything, and I have a clear piece of plastic that I don't have a clue about. How does this thing stay in place? When I took it apart I think it pulled out of the top part of the case. Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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[OT] Need 7 segment displays...

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

http://www.allelectronics.com/matrix/7_Segment_Displays.html 0.3" character height, red or green. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Kearney [mailto:jim@jkearney.com] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 1:09 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: [OT] Need 7 segment displays... >From: "Gene Buckle" <geneb(a)deltasoft.com> > I'm trying to find some VERY small 7 segment displays. I need a part > that's small enough that 5 digits will fit into an inch long area. I'm > not having any luck and I'm hoping someone here might know where I can > find them. I don't know where to find them, but LED calculators in the 70's sometimes used 4 digit modules with a DIP-16 form factor. They looked like 4 bubbles on top of a lead frame. That would make them about 3/4" for four; but I'm not sure how you'd get 5 unless you could also find a 'single'. Not very helpful, I know, but perhaps a step in the right direction...

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what the heck is this? Apple II Adaptive Firmware Card

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Hi, I recently picked up a card and external box for the Apple II. Both say Don Johnson Development Equipment Inc Adaptive Firmware Card and the box also says I/O Box. The box connects to the card via two short ribbon cables and has a 36 pin male Centronics style connector, two banana jack sockets, rocker switch and a LED on it. I picked this up in Topeka, does anyone know what it is? Joe

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locating shorts Re: HP ScanJet ADF

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > > >>Probably a shorted decoupling capacitor (if it's a 'dead short' or close >>to one). I have been known to carefully cut power traces to find out >>which section is shorted, and then home in on the problem. > > That's the way that I've traced shorts down. However since then I've bought a HP Current probe, they're supposed to be able to trace a short down the correct path. I've never had a need for it since I bought it so I dont know how well it works. Has anyone had any experience using one? Hi I've used a current probe a number of years ago and found it worked OK for trace short, when they were accessable on the surface. I've since found a method that works fine for me, using standard bench top items. You need a 4 or 5 voltmeter that has at least a 200 uV range and a current limiting power supply. What you do is to place about a 1 amp current from end to end of the curcuit that is shorted to another curcuit. Do not place the 1 amp through the short. This will generally create a 20-100 uV drop across the curcuit. Now, clip one lead of the meter on the other curcuit ( the one that this curcuit is shorted to ). With the remaining lead, trace along the curcuit with the current flowing through it. When you get to the point where the short is, the voltage will be zero. On either side, the voltage will be plus or minus, telling you which way to go. Check the meter regularly for offset by connecting both meter leads together. This will help you especially when you get close. For curcuits with branches, you may need to move where you put your end to end current to follow another branch. This method also works for power planes. Say there is a bypass cap that is shorted someplace. Place the current source on opposite corners of the board and trace until you have a line ( usually curved ) across the board that measure zero ( I usually tape a piece of string along this line ). Move the current source to the other corners. Again, find the line. Where the lines cross, you'll find the short. There are variations of this method that I've used to find multiple shorts. Dwight

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sorce of computer recyclers

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Gary Hildebrand > > I just came acrtoss this ---- there might be some good sources in here > for goodies. My gold mine in Topeka is part of this list, so I'm > betting on at least a couple more . . . . . > > > http://www.recycle.net/computer/used/index.html > > Seems like a decent resource... Did you happen to notice the Titan Trailers ad/link at the bottm of the page? ;) -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Airport screening (was Re: KC/Topeka prowling with Mr. Rigdon)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> > Whoever tells you the checks are "random" and not based on ethnicity or > appearance is just trying to be PC. I'm sure there is a bit of randomness > involved, but that's for the non-Arab, non-Muslim flying contingent. > There's only been one time out of perhaps ten where I didn't have to go > through the extra pre-boarding check before a flight. No offense, Sellam, but this only seems natural to me. I'm sure the airport security checks have gotten a bit tiresome, but we recently were attacked by Arab Muslims, and several thousand people died. If we'd been attacked by Irishmen I'm sure we'd be taking a harder look at them, too. Glen 0/0

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drive "hood" parts[was: RE: DEC SDI drives]

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Come to think of it, the gas shocks do somewhat remind me of the ones on the rear gate of my subaru station wagon... or on the hood of a BMW... hmm... Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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sorce of computer recyclers

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

I just came acrtoss this ---- there might be some good sources in here for goodies. My gold mine in Topeka is part of this list, so I'm betting on at least a couple more . . . . . http://www.recycle.net/computer/used/index.html Gary Hildebrand St. Joseph, MO

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drive "hood" parts[was: RE: DEC SDI drives]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Andreas Freiherr > > Gunther Schadow wrote: > > > > ... Then you can open the hood just like > > in my car, check the alternator belt and I just haven't found the > > oil dip stick yet :-). > > My trouble with it is that the "hood" always bounces back on the rear > part of my head, because the pressurized gas retainers have lost their > magic smoke in the cause of the years. I am convinced it's impossible > and perhaps even dangerous to repair (i.e., to repressurize) them, but > is there a known good source for spare parts? > > Without looking: are these parts the same type in a RA80 and in a RA82? > > I don't want headaches every time I adjust belt tension... > > -- > (continuing the automobile analogy...) How big are the gas shocks? Anything like the ones that hold up a hatchback in car? Auto part places like JCWhitney.com sell replacements... -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Diagnosing a non-working Mac Performa 476?

by vaxzilla＠jarai.org

I've acquired a non-working Mac Performa 476. Unfortunately, I don't have any other Mac gear to help me with the diagnosis. I've the Performa 476 itself, which may or may not be working; I've got two Macintosh Color Displays (M1212) which may or may not be working, and one spare Performa 475 motherboard purchased from eBay. It was advertised as pulled from a working system--but I've no way to verify this. The seller was a reputable one, so I'm inclined to believe it's a good board. The 475 motherboard is identical to that of the 475. The difference between the two models being that the 476 shipped with a larger internal HD. When I power up the system, with monitor attached, the internal cooling fan spins up, the hard drive spins up (and sounds normal), and the machine chimes what I seem to recall as being the regular start up sound for this era of Mac. However, the display remains dark. If I power off the Mac, leaving the monitor on, the monitor makes a light static/crackle noise; it's the sort of sound I normally associate with a monitor that's lost the video input signal. I've played with the brightness and contrast controls without any success. If I switch the other monitor, the behavior is the same. If I switch >from the orginal motherboard to the one I purchased on eBay, the behavior is the same. It's possible both monitors are bad and/or both motherboards are bad. I don't have a multimeter to verify that the voltages coming out of the PS are correct. Nor do I know that the hard drive is functional--but I'd assume that nothing needs to be loaded from the HD in order to get the display to come up. I'm a bit puzzled, and wondering if anyone here with insight on these Macs and their displays can give me any additional pointers. -brian.

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Osborne 1 Video Adapter? (was:RE: IBM 026 Printing Card Punch )

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

AFIK, OCC never sold a composite adaptor themselves. The one I had was a Monadapt by JMM (?). I also have a copy of the Osborne 1 Technical Manual (Thom Hogan and Mike Iannamico, copyright 1982). It describes the video circuit, with schematics for the edge connector and brightness/comtrast pots, but it does not have a schematic for a composite adaptor. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 7:15 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org; acme_ent(a)bellsouth.net Subject: Re: Osborne 1 Video Adapter? (was:RE: IBM 026 Printing Card Punch) Glen, Didn't I give you the Ozzy Technical manual? I think they describe their version in there and I think they even include a schematic. IIRC there's nothing in it except for two connectors and a transistor. I believe it replaces the "Do Not Remove" plug on the front of the Ozzy. Joe At 01:02 AM 5/30/02 -0400, you wrote: >> From: Feldman, Robert <Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com> > >> I was looking through the Alltronics listings and noticed a TTL-Composite >> video adaptor (http://www.alltronics.com/computer_miscellaneous.htm , >> #92C024) that looks like the adaptor I have for my Osborne 1! > >Robert -- > >Please tell me more about this adapter. I like my Oz 1 but hate the >screen. Where does it connect to the Oz? > >Glen >0/0 > >

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don't hook no RA90 to the internal power plug on the VAX6000

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, I think I haven't heard from Geoff of Oz for a while, are you still around? Came to think about Geoff because I have now blown two fuses of VAX 6000's internal 110V power hookups (the main power box has three what looks like standard 110V receptacles.) But not all of them are equal, so it seems. The one that's not reachable from the outside seems to be protected by a low-rated fuse. I suppose now that this is where the backup battery is to be hooked up an nothing else. I tried to drive an RA92 from there and it always burned the fuse when the drive spins up. I'm releaved now because initially I thought I might have destroyed the drive (some inner short because of dust and dirt.) But it's just that fuse. Too bad that I can't power the second external receptacle. It's this weird 3-phase conversion issue where you have to use the phase that connects to this internal receptacle but not both of those that connect to the two external receptacles. How did you, Geoff, hook up both of your RA9x down in your VAX6400? thanks, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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RA90 not releasing session on port B? How can I reset the drive?

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, I cleaned up my laundry/computerroom real nice. The two VAX6450s now want to talk to each other (and not just stand side-by-side :-). I have the star coupler attached to the wall, at a nice angle under the staircase, which makes it really nice to connect the CI cables. Can't wait to do IP over CI between the two. So, I copied my Ultrix disk's / and /usr partition to another drive and having connected the second VAX6k to that other drive on SDI port "B" I could actually boot it with the generic kernel and so forth. Then I found I was missing something, so I wanted to get back to the first VAX and mount that drive again to add something to it. But fron then on every attempt to mount or write to the drive from port "A" causes the WRITE PROTECT LED to lite up quickly and then the OS comes back with an I/O error on writes and a write restricted error on mounts. I can't even do mount -r that drive. I tried shutting down, spinning down, resetting, powering off and everything I just can't get the drive responding to write requests from port A any more. What is the magic here? These drives seem to have a memory that lasts even when powered off. Once I turned off the main breaker before the drives were spun down. It does sound ugly, but they all work nicely still. And I noticed that they remembered the "R" status when I powered them on again. So, how can that memory really be cleared? thanks for your help, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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Performa 476 Problem

by appleone＠mac.com

Brian: How about the motherboard backup battery? I've seen a couple of Macs that wouldn't display that worked fine after I replaced the battery. Check the voltage on 'em. Of course, another known working monitor would be nice for testing too. And even with no hard drive you would at least get the "flashing question mark disk" icon. Steve

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Diagnosing a non-working Mac Performa 476?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Not being an Apple person this might not be germane. I have found differences with the cables that attach the monitor to the computer. I had one cable that plugged in but did not work. It was lighter in weight and IIRC was missing a pin. I think it worked on an IIGS but not on a LCIII I was testing. I needed the heavierweight video cable with no missing pins to get the LCIII to come up. Both came up in color but needed different cables. Don't know why. As I said I am not an Apple person, although I would love a G3 or G4 to play with. Paxton Astoria, OR

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dec parts available

by fernande＠internet1.net

2- M7493-PA R440F Q R449F (S-box) to SCSI Converter (free plus shipping) 1- fan drawer from R400X DSSI expansion chassis. I think this is the same as any other BA440 style case, right? (15.00 plus shipping) Please contact me off list. Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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the haunted VAX6000 has been exorcized!

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Yes! It was very much like Antonio suggested, a good deal of previously strangely behaving XBIA and XBIB boards were still working fine given the proper environment. I replaced the backplanes/cages for both XMI and VAXBI. I figured if nothing else, the set I put so neatly into boxes last year would be less exposed to dust and grime over the last year, and I did remember that one of the vaxen, i.e., this particular one did behave strangely even last year. Then step by step debugging with a little bit of board reseating and everything works now. Yeah! This is my second VAX6450 going online. Did I mention that one of them is now a VAXvector 6450 (with one vector processor right now because I still don't have more than one of the little cables.) It's going to be a VAXvector 6440 V2 (BTW: how was the number of vector CPUs officially counted?) and the other will be a VAX 6460. Both of them have 512 MB memory, one has a KDM70 with an SA600 with 8 RA90s the other now has the KDB50 with one RA90 and one RA92 in the "basement" of it's cabinet. I'm about to connecting the second VAX to the star coupler. And then all I need to do is fix the HSC90 that still gives me a k.ci error with status 111 (what the heck does that mean?) Then the HSC90 will plug in the port "B" of all the RA90s and RA92 and uh yes, there are also the RA81 and RA82, which I can't wait to actually use. My basement is going to be cleaned out now. It looks nice with two VAX 6000 and an SA600 shoulder to shoulder. Ah, yes, now I have an XMI and a VAXBI backplane cage spare. I will get rid of it one way or the other. If you want either or both, let me know. They are free for the taking or shipping. I'm sure that only one of them is actually defect AND I'm sure the defect could be fixed (I'd probably go with round in the dishwasher or so.) If you need parts from one, that's fine too. To know what's on them go to my VAX 6000 anatomy page. If I don't hear by soon, I will screw off all the parts and let the bulky stuff hit the dumpster. regards -Gunther Here is the transcript of a working VAX 6450 selftesting: >>> INIT c123456789 0123456789 0123456789 01234567# F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # A A . . M M M M . P P P P P TYP o o . . + + + + . + + + + + STF . . . . . . . . . E E E E B BPD . . . . . . . . . + + + + + ETF . . . . . . . . . E E E E B BPD . . . . . . . . . . + . + . + . XBI D + . . . . . . . . . + . . . . + . XBI E + . . . . A4 A3 A2 A1 . . . . . . ILV . . . . 128 128 128 128 . . . . . . 512 Mb ROM0 = V3.00 ROM1 = V3.00 EEPROM = 2.03/3.07 SN = AG94408846 >>> SHOW ALL Type Rev 1+ KA64A (8082) 000A 2+ KA64A (8082) 000C 3+ KA64A (8082) 000C 4+ KA64A (8082) 000A 5+ KA64A (8082) 000B 7+ MS65A (4001) 0084 8+ MS65A (4001) 0084 9+ MS65A (4001) 0084 A+ MS65A (4001) 0084 D+ DWMBA/A (2001) 0002 E+ DWMBA/A (2001) 0002 XBI D 1+ DWMBA/B (2107) 000A 3+ KDB50 (010E) 142C 5+ DEBNI (0118) 0300 XBI E 1+ DWMBA/B (2107) 000A 6+ TBK70 (410B) 0305 Current Primary: 1 /NOENABLED- /NOVECTOR_ENABLED- /NOPRIMARY- F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # . . . . A4 A3 A2 A1 . . . . . . ILV . . . . 128 128 128 128 . . . . . . 512 Mb /INTERLEAVE:DEFAULT /SCOPE /SPEED: 9600 /NOBREAK English XMI:D BI:5 08-00-2B-0B-23-AE DEFAULT /XMI:E /BI:6 CSA1 TAPE /XMI:E /BI:6 CSA1 ETH0 /XMI:D /BI:6 ET0 >>> -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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Overtemp

by jpl15＠panix.com

There are many things one can do with a non-functioning Next Cube. The following URL was generated by someone who, a) apparently has found the most obsessive ultimate activity, and, b) has way, way, way too much time on his mind. IMHO, anyway... http://simson.net/photos/hacks/cubefire.html Ya jus' cain't make this-here shit up, I'm a-tellin ya! Cheers John

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[CCTECH] Cards to Identify

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Finally read the description on the large cards. With 3 50 pin connectors I think it is a Bridge of some sort. The 82586 is intel's intelligent Ethernet controller so I am sure the 15 pin is an AIU Ethernet connector. Paxton Astoria, OR

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HP calcualteor power adapter

by hansp＠aconit.org

A little while ago I seem to remember someone in the UK saying they needed a power adapter for one of the original HP calculators - HP35/45/55 etc. I have one if that person would contact me off list.... -- hbp

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CP/M TCP/IP (was Re: CP/M coding question)

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Pat Finnegan" <pat(a)purdueriots.com> > >On Thu, 30 May 2002, Glen Goodwin wrote: > >> > From: Pat Finnegan <pat(a)purdueriots.com> >> >> > What I'm looking to do is provide a (small) SLIP or PPP based TCP/IP >> stack >> > for a machine that will stay resident and can be used by CP/M 2.2 [or >> > perhaps MP/M II] user programs. >> >> Pat -- >> >> I would be extremely interested to learn of your progress in this area. >> Please keep us posted, or contact me off-list. > >I'm starting to have some second thoughts about how I'm going to do this. >I'm considering an external 'black box' that will connect to a PPP server >on one end and have a RS-232 connection on the other that will provide >something like a serialized verion of BSD's sockets. I'm also thinking >about implementing a raw tcp port that would connect to an extra RS-232 >port [optionally password protected] that could be used to attach to the >system's console, and replicate it on the other end of the network. > >Right now I'm looking at either a Z80 with 32k of ram, 16k of flash, a CTC >and one or two DUARTS, or a uC that'll provide as much of that in hardware >as possible. PICs are nice, but generally seem to have too little memory >for TX/RX buffers, and Basic stamps are too slow. (and who wants to >program in BASIC anyways?) > >Any suggestions on a good uC to use? > >-- Pat > > Hi Although, I don't care for BASIC, there is a company that is about to release a stamp like board with a BASIC that is benching at 500 to 1500 times faster than the original PIC stamps. It gets it's speed from having a better memory model. You don't have to program in BASIC with it. In fact, the BASIC is written in Forth that underlies the BASIC. From what I'm told, you can access the Forth. If Forth isn't your cup of tea, most all Forths have been able to access the raw assembly level without using yet another tool. The processor is based on the 8051 instruction set but it one or two clocks per instruction instead of 12 to one. Of course, it runs in the tens of megahertz. Mixed assembly and Forth often makes a good optimization of speed and memeory size. Later Dwight

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it's networked! (my VAXstation)

by carlos_murillo＠epm.net.co

Yeeeeehah! I devoted maybe four hours today and yesterday to reading more about VMS, paks, UCX vs. TCPIP, DECNet plus and such stuff, and I was finally able (after a two year hiatus) to install the TCPIP product more or less correctly in my Vaxstation 4000/60. It seems to work and I could finally ftp the complete hobbyst paks to it (before I had to do each by hand). I get errors on startup about some proxy database. I think that I still have some configuration errors (especially in the DECnet plus side, but then again, I won't be using it to communicate with anything else DECnet), but the basic stuff seems to run (telnet and ftp clients and servers). Question: where can I get ssh for vax openvms 7.2? Question: can somebody tell me what are the step by step commands/dcl incantations to create a user with reasonable privileges? (I don;t want to login remotely to the system account). And, does the concept of a user home directory exist in vms? Where does one normally create user directories? Regards, carlos. -------------------------------------------------------------- Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org

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Apple II cards from Topeka

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Tarsi <tarsi(a)binhost.com> > 93 computers at my house now and counting.....:) Have you considered seeking professional help? ;>) Glen 0/0

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Osborne 1 Video Adapter? (was:RE: IBM 026 Printing Card Punch)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Feldman, Robert <Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com> > I was looking through the Alltronics listings and noticed a TTL-Composite > video adaptor (http://www.alltronics.com/computer_miscellaneous.htm , > #92C024) that looks like the adaptor I have for my Osborne 1! Robert -- Please tell me more about this adapter. I like my Oz 1 but hate the screen. Where does it connect to the Oz? Glen 0/0

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KC/Topeka prowling with Mr. Rigdon

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Gary Hildebrand <ghldbrd(a)ccp.com> > Had a find time killing the day. My thanks to Joe and his sharp eyes; > what he found really made my day. You can always count on Joe to sniff out the good stuff. He's got a nose like a bloodhound. The rest of his face doesn't look so good, either. (Sorry, Joe, I couldn't resist that opportunity ;>) Actually, he's even found interesting stuff in junk piles *in my own shop* that I couldn't identify. Glen 0/0

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Sperry-Univac terminal, etc. in Georgia

by dan＠ekoan.com

http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=48287 Looks like some screen burn-in, but otherwise in pretty good shape. Cheers, Dan www.decodesystems.com/wanted.html

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DECserver 500

by foo＠siconic.com

Of what use is a DECserver 500? What sort of processing power does it have? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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TRS80 Pocket PC or Sharp PC1211 Diagrams

by sipke＠wxs.nl

Does anybody have a scanned version of the TRS Pocket PC or the Sharp PC-1211 aviable. I've recently obtained one (TRS-type) including printer/cassette interface but after installing new batteries the machine seem a rather psychotic and is only eratically reacting toa few keypresses. I locks up pretty soon after. A reset does give a reaction that seems normal. PCB's and keyboard look ok, so the CPU is still doing something ????? On the backside of the main PCB there are two capacitors (small tanlatium) that seem to have been blown (could be RF-filters also) I can't really see the because of a ribboncable. Anyway these components have spilled some debris on the PCB so something is wrong there .....

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Legendary C64 group TRIAD

by taper＠triad.nu

If you are interested in recieving NEW games and demos for the everlasting Commodore 64, join up with the TRIAD spreadlist. This way you will get all future TRIAD releases instantly via e-mail. Note; This is NOT an ordinary mailinglist, it's a one-way spreadlist, so don't worry about getting your mailboxes filled with crap. Since c64 productions only take up some kb's, also people on slow connections won't have any problems signing up. Throw a mail to taper(a)triad.nu to sign up with the list, and also give our website a visit on www.triad.nu Taper/TRIAD

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[CCTECH] PDP-11/60 in UK on eBay

by lists＠subatomix.com

I'm not associated in any way with the seller. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2028620247 (Yes, this is a sneaky attempt to see if eBay happenings are on-topic.) -- Jeffrey Sharp The email address lists(a)subatomix.com is for mailing list traffic. Please send off-list mail to roach jay ess ess at wasp subatomix beetle dot com. You may need to remove some bugs first. _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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[CCTECH] MicroPDP-11/23+ now boots!

by lists＠subatomix.com

After a few days of work, I have successfully restored and booted a MicroPDP-11/23+. This is the first PDP-11 that I've actually restored, and one of four that I want to get working this summer. This is also only the second PDP-11 that I've even *used*. Here's what the cards look like: Backplane: H9278-A (3xQ22/CD 5xQ22/Q22) AAAAAAAAAA BBBBBBBBBB CCCCCCCCCC DDDDDDDDDD 1 M8189----(KDF11-BF)------------------------ 2 M8067-LB-(MSV11-P)------------------------- 3 M9047---------------- SPACER-CARD---------- 4 M9047---------------- M9047---------------- 5 M9047---------------- M9047---------------- 6 M9047---------------- M9047---------------- 7 M7957----(DZV11-M)------------------------- 8 M8639-YA-(RQDX1)--------------------------- I've got another MSV11-P card that I'll stick in there as soon as I get its jumpers changed. Per Tony's info, I did not remove any grant jumpers on the CPU and memory cards; neither card uses the CD bus, so removal is not necesary. Per Ethan's help, the cards have been reorganized for maximum expansion ease. I did have to replace the power supply and the CPU card. Them's the breaks. It's got RT-11 5.1 and CTS-300 8.1 installed, and it boots. I've got some playing to do! Many thanks go out to: - The people who run documentation websites - Ethan Dicks and Tony Duell for help - Jeffrey Worley for the majority of the parts - Eric Dittman for the BA23 plastic shell -- Jeffrey Sharp The email address lists(a)subatomix.com is for mailing list traffic. Please send off-list mail to roach jay ess ess at wasp subatomix beetle dot com. You may need to remove some bugs first. _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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transcript from the weird VAX 6000

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

O.K., I checked the DC cleanlyness with the scope and it is wonderfully clean. But it's strange. When I first power it on just power the memory, the lights on the key-switch console are all wild (like green and red all at the same time.) Again the DWMBA didn't work. And caused machine checks errors. Again two of the XBIA cards caused the CPU to shut down the moment it was going to test the VAXBI stuff. Can you tell from the transcript below what might be wrong? Whithout XBIA it seems to be working fine. Now I put in just one of them without an XBIB counterpart: #123456789 0123456789 0123456789 01234567# F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # . A . . . . M M . . . . . P TYP . o . . . . + + . . . . . + STF . . . . . . . . . . . . . B BPD . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ETF . . . . . . . . . . . . . B BPD ?12 Machine check occurred during machine check processing. PC = 2007C25F SAVPSL = 041F1200 ISP = 201403F0 What the heck? Hit the reset button and: #123456789 0123456789 0123456789 01234567# F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # . A . . . . M M . . . . . P TYP . o . . . . + + . . . . . + STF . . . . . . . . . . . . . B BPD . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ETF . . . . . . . . . . . . . B BPD . . . . . . A2 A1 . . . . . . ILV . . . . . . 32 32 . . . . . . 64 Mb ROM0 = V3.00 ROM1 = V3.00 EEPROM = 2.03/3.07 SN = AG94408846 This time it worked. No VAXBI stuff detected, sure, there is none. #123456789 0123456789 0123456789 01234567# F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # . A . . . . M M . . . . . P TYP . o . . . . + + . . . . . + STF . . . . . . . . . . . . . B BPD . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ETF . . . . . . . . . . . . . B BPD . . . . . . A2 A1 . . . . . . ILV . . . . . . 32 32 . . . . . . 64 Mb ROM0 = V3.00 ROM1 = V3.00 EEPROM = 2.03/3.07 SN = AG94408846 Now I put the other XBIA in and two XBIBs to talk to. See what happens this time #123456789 0123456789 0123456789 01234567# F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # A A . . . . M M . . . . . P TYP o o . . . . + + . . . . . + STF . . . . . . . . . . . . . B BPD and boom, the CPU lights went out. What's going on here? hit reset button and: #123456789 0123456789 0123456789 01234567# F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # A A . . . . M M . . . . . P TYP o o . . . . + + . . . . . + STF . . . . . . . . . . . . . B BPD . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ETF . . . . . . . . . . . . . B BPD Machine Check Stack Frame: 80000011 21800000 2004C79C 00000000 0700130E 00000013 2004C78D 041F0004 PCSTS: 00000888 PCERR: 21800000 PCTAG: 40000000 BCSTS: 01800000 BCERR: 2004D7D0 BCBTS: 20000000 BCP1TS: 20000000 BCP2TS: 20000000 IPORT: 800003D1 XBER: 8000A041 XFADR: 61800000 RCSR: 01280001 Machine Check Stack Frame: 80000011 21800000 2004C79C 00000000 0700130E 00000013 2004C78D 041F0004 PCSTS: 000008C8 PCERR: 21800000 PCTAG: 40000000 BCSTS: 01800000 BCERR: 2004D7D0 BCBTS: 20000000 BCP1TS: 20000000 BCP2TS: 20000000 IPORT: 800003D1 XBER: 8000B041 XFADR: 61800000 RCSR: 01280011 ?12 Machine check occurred during machine check processing. PC = 2004FF02 SAVPSL = 041F1200 ISP = 201403EC Now that I see those machine check issues, I think I've seen those before. It might be that these problems had been waiting for the last year to come up. I guess I should be replacing everything with the spare set of guts that I have boxed up. This isn't right, and I don't know what else to do. cheers, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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HP ScanJet ADF

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Uban [mailto:uban@ubanproductions.com] > I guess that I just saved some more space in a landfill somewhere for > someone elses ADF unit, because HP won't sell parts for these units. > Imagine what HP will do with anything that Compaq managed to save from > DEC (though I don't imagine that would be much)... You mean anything that Compaq hasn't yet managed to kill, right? Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Commodore 128 newbie question

by fernande＠internet1.net

Since I don't even know if this machine works yet, can I hook it up to a TV instead of a monitor? I'd hate to go buy another monitor from Goodwill only to find that the computer doesn't work. The computer is still disassembled. I may start reassembly tonight, However. Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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What is this? Looks like maybe a VAX of some sort...

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Alas, I cannot get the damned pictures to work, but if someone from the list buys it, I really REALLY could use the HP drives! heh Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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What is this? Looks like maybe a VAX of some sort...

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>I suppose it could just be the RA82 and the TK?? drive but maybe its a whole >system... Not that I'm going to Virgina to find out... Without seeing the inside, you cannot be sure. It's certainly a MicroVAX III enclosure with an RA drive. There's no guarantee that the innards have not been gutted or that the disk works. I guess shipping will cost much more than $35 ... Antonio

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What happens when... (Q/CD question)

by lists＠subatomix.com

...you plug a quad-width board into a Q/CD slot, and the board has its grant enable jumpers in place? Is there any chance that this would kill the board? -- Jeffrey Sharp The email address lists(a)subatomix.com is for mailing list traffic. Please send off-list mail to roach jay ess ess at wasp subatomix beetle dot com. You may need to remove some bugs first.

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[CCTECH] HP 1000 E-Series

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Ok, I was feeling brave so I stuck power into the sucker and turned it on.. no magic smoke or burnt smell, lol, but I'm wondering if its normal for the extend light and the rox of lights for the registers yo light up and stay lit up. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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APPLEVISION Monitor

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 04:40 PM 5/6/2002 -0500, Christopher Smith <csmith(a)amdocs.com> wrote: >Not required, but just for information, Mac pathnames are >traditionally colon-separated in a similar manner to Amiga >paths. Huh? Amiga volume names ended in colon "DH0:" but the folder names weren't separated by colons in a path string. I can't remember an instance where a Mac application allowed the user to enter the colons, although they were used internally, and you could use them in some developer tools that gave command lines or operated on "makefile"s. - John

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[CCTECH] Floppy drive cleaning kits

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Richard A. Cini, Jr." <rcini(a)msn.com> > >Hello, all: > > What is the best current source for 5.25" floppy cleaning kits? > >Rich > Hi Rich A drug store. Dwight

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How do VMS Condists work?

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>OTOH, what forces you to upgrade? - If you want to cluster a VAX to an >Alpha running 6.1, that should be OK: this is the usual way to upgrade a V6.0 on VAX was OK but short-lived; V6.1 was somewhat better. Most people either stayed with V5.5-2 or moved rapidly to V6.1 or V6.2. I believe that the VAX V6.1 CDs were the first ones that could be booted directly into OpenVMS (rather than just being able to boot S/A BACKUP to restore the .B saveset). The Hobbyist people should be able to supply V7.3. If they cannot do so, then I believe that you are allowed to acquire media by any means (specifically you can have someone copy the CD for you). Antonio

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[CCTECH] Anyone out there?

by foo＠siconic.com

On Wed, 29 May 2002, Kevin Murrell wrote: > I switched from the original group, as I was getting fed up with the > spam and the rants, but now I found i'm all alone! > > Should I have switched back to cctalk (?) Kevin, cctech is a pointless mailing list. It was supposed to stop off-topic postings but the concept wasn't thought out very well. Hence, no traffic. Everything is going on at cctalk. I suggest you switch. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com * _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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How do VMS Condists work?

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>I just tried, my VAX 7.2 VMS CD also boots into a minimal VMS from SYS1 >on my MicroVAX. So I guess they changed it between 7.1 and 7.2. I don't know where they changed but I looked at a V7.1 binary disk and it had a [SYS1] directory with many files underneath. The easy-to-spot difference between S/A BACKUP and full OpenVMS boot is the number of files. I don't have either V6.2 or V6.1 to hand so I don't know if this (undocumented and unsupported) facility was there back then. If you tried booting V7.1 and it didn't work, then either I looked at something other than V7.1 or you booted incorrectly. Antonio

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0T- Old linux question-Redhat 5-networking

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

Hi, This is a question about an older linux.. I am running redhat 5, on an IBM755c (486) OH perhaps my laptop is old enough... : ^ ) Anyway I have to enter the following lines every time I reboot: modprobe ne io=0x300 dhcpcd ifconfig eth0 up so networking is ready... my question, Anybody know the --proper-- place to put these 3 lines? I could just put them in local.rc and be done wid um, but that wouldn't be the --proper-- place to put them. Thanks! : ^ )

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[CCTECH] Anyone out there?

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> > cctech is a pointless mailing list. It was supposed to stop off-topic > postings but the concept wasn't thought out very well. Hence, no traffic. > Everything is going on at cctalk. I suggest you switch. Yeah, but the flames and OTs sure have cooled down, so in that regard the switch helped. Glen 0/0

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[CCTECH] Floppy drive cleaning kits

by rcini＠msn.com

Hello, all: What is the best current source for 5.25" floppy cleaning kits? Rich Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

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[CCTECH] Anyone out there?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> wrote: > Sellam wrote... > > cctech is a pointless mailing list. It was supposed to stop off-topic > > postings but the concept wasn't thought out very well. Hence, no traffic. > > Everything is going on at cctalk. I suggest you switch. > > Sellam, do you have to be so derrogatory? Just because you didn't like the > way I set it up is no reason to say the concept wasn't thought out very > well. Sheesh, here we go again. OK, it's short shameful confession time. I read Jay's proposal (which he posted to classiccmp). I even replied (privately) with a suggestion about how to do one of the things he wanted to do. What I didn't do was think about the proposal and realize how this was likely to play out. Hindsight being 20/20, I now recognize my error. So. Can we just blame me and quit kvetching about this 'til the next time our most gracious list host feels like it's time to make a change? -Frank McConnell

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VAXBI trouble -- I just killed a bunch of boards -- haunted VAX in my basement

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Normally, a machine that damages boards has got PSU problems (the 5V rail >sitting at 12V or something). Do you know what the outputs of the PSU >should be and can you check them? (use a 'scope as well if you have one >to look for HV ripple on the output -- a common failure mode of SMPSUs is >a high ESR (or open) output capacitor and you can then get 10-20V spikes >on the 5V output...). I no longer have one to look at, but from memory, the 6K regulators are at the back and the outputs are shielded by transparent plastic covers. Should be easy enough to remove these and 'scope away. Note however, that these are there for protection: the voltage is low but the current is high - remove metal from body before trying this out! >One board damaging another is less common unless some component failure >is shorting one of the pins to a supply line or ground. It can happen (as >here). Do you know what to expect on each pin (I guess not, as AFAIK DEC >never published real technical documentation for the VAX 6000 series). The 6000 tech manuals tended to concentrate on the programming aspects. There was an XMI handbook which covered the bus signals and protocol in some detail. >If there are any recognisable chips on the boards (especially bus >buffers), check them. And if there are picofuses for the supply lines >(some machines have them, I have no idea if the VAX 6000 is one of them), >check those too. It's not unheard-of for a bus short to blow a fuse and >not damage much else. The XMI connection was handled by a dedicated chip (in the "XMI corner") with possibly a few drivers and such strung around it (much the same concept as with the VAXBI bus). I would be surprised if a dead XBIA managed to also take out an associated XBIB. There are rules about which boards can go in which slots etc. I had a few "funny turns" with my 6K but it always turned out to be a badly seated board, or a missing cable or the problem being somewhere else and me being in a rush. My first step would be to ignore the VAXBI, remove as many boards as are needed to get the thing to start at all (which in this case seems to mean remove the BI-XMI interface boards) and then add in the XMI end of the interface. Now try to run diags and see whether the board is even partially alive. (Obviously it will fail the tests that go look for the other end of the interface). If OK so far, empty the VAXBI cage and add in the BI end of the interface board, properly hooked up. Pay careful attention to the transition headers and plugs on the BI and XMI interfaces. Now see if the diags are happy or not. If OK, season with further BI boards. I did this a few times myself and always ended up with a full set of working boards. Maybe I was lucky, maybe there really were problems with boards being badly seated or maybe I had a marginal board or two. Since all my problems happened when I needed to reconfigure the hardware, I assumed it was just seating rather than marginal hardware. Antonio

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Making an MMJ to DE25-F adapter

by bob_lafleur＠technologist.com

I have an adapter that has MMJ female and a DE25-F connector. The adapter needs to be "made" (i.e. I've got wires coming out of it that plug into holes in the DE25-F connector). I want to make it so that I'll use an MMJ cable from the console port of my MicroVAX 3100 to the adapter, and plug the adapter into the 9-25 adapter cable that's connected to my PC Serial port. How do I wire it? I've got these color wires (not in any particular order) Red White Blue Green Yellow Black Which holes should I plug which colors into? Please describe how I should orient the connector when describing which holes to plug the wires into. Thanks. - Bob

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CP/M TCP/IP (was Re: CP/M coding question)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Brain, Jim <JBrain(a)aegonusa.com> > Leave the BIOS in there, and use uIP stack. > > It works on a C64, which is 1MHz, so 4.77 should be a breeze. > > I don't know the URL offhand, but Cameron probably does. http://dunkels.com/adam/uip/ Glen 0/0

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Osborne 1 Video Adapter? (was:RE: IBM 026 Printing Card Punch)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Feldman, Robert <Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com> > The adaptor fits on the 20-contact video edge connector near the middle of > the front panel. Just remove the shunt and replace it with the TTL-Composite > adaptor. The shunt just takes the signal from the contact on the bottom of > the O1's circuit board and carries it to the corresponding contact on the > top. So, if the converter does not also run the signals to the top of the O1 > board, the internal monitor will not be on -- only the external composite > monitor will be. Thanks. Glen 0/0

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Osborne 1 Video Adapter? (was:RE: IBM 026 Printing Card Punch)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Gary Hildebrand <ghldbrd(a)ccp.com> > I think it plugs in the frint, where that dummy plug is --- says DO NOT > REMOVE. I've only seen one Ozzie with a compositve video output, and it > was hacked into the unit with a phono connector on the front panel. > ISTR it was standard NTSC b&w video. > > If this is the proper adapter I'd like to get a couple myself. Got two > of those pigs sitting here. Pigs? I kinda like mine. Glen 0/0

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CP/M TCP/IP (was Re: CP/M coding question)

by JBrain＠aegonusa.com

Leave the BIOS in there, and use uIP stack. It works on a C64, which is 1MHz, so 4.77 should be a breeze. I don't know the URL offhand, but Cameron probably does. Jim Jim Brain, jbrain(a)aegonusa.com "Researching tomorrow's decisions today." (319) 369-2070 (work) SYSTEMS ARCHITECT, ITS, AEGON FINANCIAL PARTNERS -----Original Message----- From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:55 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: CP/M TCP/IP (was Re: CP/M coding question) > I'm starting to have some second thoughts about how I'm going to do this. > I'm considering an external 'black box' that will connect to a PPP server > on one end and have a RS-232 connection on the other that will provide Not realy the same thing, but related... I've considered pulling the BIOS ROMs from an old XT or AT system (preferably IBM as I have the schematics...) and replacing them with some kind of TCP/IP stack. Stick an ISA ethernet card in one of the slots (or a serial card and use SLIP or PPP) and fill up the other slots with whatever I/O cards would be appropriate to connect to the CP/M box or whatever. Without the IBM BIOS getting in the way, the 8088 should have enough power for this, and without the BIOS there'd be no reason to have a video card or keyboard (or disk drives). Has anyone ever tried this, or anything like it? I really don't feel like writing all the code from scratch... -tony

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CP/M coding question

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I'm working on writing a program for CP/M 2.2, and would like to make it stay 'resident' in the system memory. Is there any way I can locate to bottom of the CCP so I don't overwrite it, without doing it at compile time? I'm planning on using only Z-80 based systems (so I can use an offset-based jump) so I should be able to pretty easily make the code re-locatable. All I need to do is be able to figure out where the CCP is so I don't overwrite it. Alternatively, would it be a better idea to write something that loads its own replacement CCP under it, and overloads the old CCP just under the BDOS? I would probably need to intercept the 'JMP WBOOT' and 'JMP BDOS' vectors at address 0 and 5, and keep the old BIOS from overwriting my resident program. Or, would it be better to just modify and re-compile the BIOS for each machine I want to run this on (most of the code would probably remain the same...)? What I'm looking to do is provide a (small) SLIP or PPP based TCP/IP stack for a machine that will stay resident and can be used by CP/M 2.2 [or perhaps MP/M II] user programs. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Pat

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Fujitsu eagle manuals?

by kevin＠ps8.co.uk

Can anyone point me to a scanned copy of the manual for a Fujitsu Eagle drive - an M2351A In particular I need the drive selection switch settings, the operation the head lock mechanism, and the meaning of the status codes (on a two digit 7 segment display). Many thanks Kevin Murrell

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[CCTECH] Re: anybody out there?

by john_boffemmyer_iv＠boff-net.dhs.org

Dave: check into Eudora, seems to work better =) -John At 10:47 AM 5/30/02, you wrote: >***This should've went out yesterday. Seems like a small "problem" between >the way Win/Outlook and D/UX3.2/Netscape handle the Reply-To (or is it >Sender) field in a message..**** > >! From: Bob Bramwell [mailto:bob@copenhagen.cuug.ab.ca] >! >! Sure is quiet, isn't it? But I'm listening, and this can >! serve as a test of my >! ability to submit to the list by the simple expedient of >! hitting "reply" in my >! mailer window. > > Yeah, cctech is kinda quiet, but I believe that has to do with the >whole moderation thing, and discussions branching off once they get >re-posted to cctalk. > I'm currently subscribed to both. I have rules in place to send >messages from each list to separate folders. That way, depending on my >mood, and workload, I can follow the wandering discussion on cctalk, or >just read whatever meat comes through on cctech. > > >--- David A Woyciesjes >--- C & IS Support Specialist >--- Yale University Press >--- (203) 432-0953 >--- ICQ # - 905818 >Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: >Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash >_______________________________________________ >cctech mailing list >cctech(a)classiccmp.org >http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech ---------------------------------------- Founder, Lead Writer, Tech Analyst and Web Designer Boff-Net Technologies http://boff-net.dhs.org/index.html ---------------------------------------

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CP/M TCP/IP (was Re: CP/M coding question)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Pat Finnegan <pat(a)purdueriots.com> > What I'm looking to do is provide a (small) SLIP or PPP based TCP/IP stack > for a machine that will stay resident and can be used by CP/M 2.2 [or > perhaps MP/M II] user programs. Pat -- I would be extremely interested to learn of your progress in this area. Please keep us posted, or contact me off-list. Thanks, Glen 0/0

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IBM 026 Printing Card Punch

by foo＠siconic.com

Here is the latest acquisiton of the VCF Archives: http://www.vintage.org/gallery.php?title=IBM%20026%20Printing%20Card%20Punc… A very neat machine. John Lawson helped me clean it up a bit over the weekend and we got it to do "stuff" but it's still not printing or punching so it definitely needs some more TLC. Look for it to be operational by and on display at VCF 5.0 this September (dates to be announced very, very soon). Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Quicktake disks: never mind...

by dtwright＠uiuc.edu

I found a copy someplace. Thanks! - Dan Wright (dtwright(a)uiuc.edu) (http://www.uiuc.edu/~dtwright) -] ------------------------------ [-] -------------------------------- [- ``Weave a circle round him thrice, / And close your eyes with holy dread, For he on honeydew hath fed, / and drunk the milk of Paradise.'' Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Kubla Khan

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[CCTECH] Re: cctech digest, Vol 1 #11 - 4 msgs

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Bob --- Well, the problem that I had, is like I guessed. I did a little test with my cctalk subscription... Netscape(D/UX) does pass some different header info than Outlook. So I just subscribed to cctalk on the D/UX box also, supplying the other address (and disabled delivery, so I don't get all the posts duplicated), and now it works. Now, I just have to add the other address to cctech... --- David A Woyciesjes ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Bob Bramwell ! ! Actually the delay was amost certainly my own fault. I ! subscribed to the list using one mail address and then ! tried to reply to an incoming digest using a different ! one. So I un- and re- subscribed, and now *this* ! should serve as a test that I can post to the group. ! Look no further than the nearest user for ! your software "problems" :-) ! >Message: 4 ! >From: David Woyciesjes <DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu> ! > ! >***This should've went out yesterday. Seems like a small ! >"problem" between the way Win/Outlook and D/UX3.2/Netscape ! >handle the Reply-To (or is it Sender) field in a message..**** ! >! From: Bob Bramwell [mailto:bob@copenhagen.cuug.ab.ca] ! >! ! >! Sure is quiet, isn't it? _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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Apple II cards from Topeka

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

Calling all Apple II gurus . . . . . I procured the following and am wondering if you can add/subtract to what little I know: Street Electronics Corp. Echo+ [some sort of speech synthesizer] Apricorn super serial imager card [serial/modem and ?/printer outs, some sort of super fx] unknown mfg. pn-1300-42 Super Serial Pro, has pigtail with 8 pin mini-DIN plug [serial card?? has two DIP switches next to xtal] Apple Workstation card [Appletalk??] The Appletalk and synthesizer boards look interesting . . . Gary Hildebrand St. JOseph, MO

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[CCTECH] Re: cctech digest, Vol 1 #11 - 4 msgs

by bob＠copenhagen.cuug.ab.ca

Actually the delay was amost certainly my own fault. I subscribed to the list using one mail address and then tried to reply to an incoming digest using a different one. So I un- and re- subscribed, and now *this* should serve as a test that I can post to the group. Look no further than the nearest user for your software "problems" :-) >Message: 4 >From: David Woyciesjes <DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu> >To: "'cctech(a)classiccmp.org'" <cctech(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: RE: [CCTECH] Re: anybody out there? >Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:47:09 -0400 >Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > >***This should've went out yesterday. Seems like a small "problem" between >the way Win/Outlook and D/UX3.2/Netscape handle the Reply-To (or is it >Sender) field in a message..**** > >! From: Bob Bramwell [mailto:bob@copenhagen.cuug.ab.ca] >! >! Sure is quiet, isn't it? | the digital divide is an issue of poverty; Bob Bramwell 60 Baker Cr. NW | if we can eliminate the information ProntoLogical Calgary, AB | barriers, we'll all live in a safer, +1 403/861-8827 T2L 1R4, Canada | more prosperous world. | - John Gage, Sun's chief researcher. _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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Apple QuickTake disks

by dtwright＠uiuc.edu

I recently got an Apple QuickTake 150 digital camera, but I can't find the disks for it anywhere, and they don't seem to be available from apple's web site. Does anyone have these disks so I could get copies of them? Thanks! - Dan Wright (dtwright(a)uiuc.edu) (http://www.uiuc.edu/~dtwright) -] ------------------------------ [-] -------------------------------- [- ``Weave a circle round him thrice, / And close your eyes with holy dread, For he on honeydew hath fed, / and drunk the milk of Paradise.'' Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Kubla Khan

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First IBM PS/2 Mouse

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com [re old IBM mice] > jeez, i just round filed dozens of them a while back! the buttons start > getting dodgy after long term use. So did I! Someone brought in a paper grocery sack full of them and wanted to sell them. When I said no, they just left the shop, and left the mice behind, so I chucked 'em. Are you sure that's not a PS/1 mouse in the photo? The ones I trashed were exactly like the photo, but I didn't think they were the really early mice. Glen 0/0

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CP/M TCP/IP (was Re: CP/M coding question)

by dan＠ekoan.com

At 09:30 AM 5/30/02 -0500, you wrote: >Any suggestions on a good uC to use? This is getting off-topic, but you might find this cheaper as long as you're okay programming in Java: http://www.ibutton.com/TINI/index.html Cheers, Dan www.decodesystems.com/wanted.html

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CP/M TCP/IP (was Re: CP/M coding question)

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

You could use a Rabbit board: http://www.rabbitsemiconductor.com/ --tom At 09:30 AM 5/30/02 -0500, you wrote: >On Thu, 30 May 2002, Glen Goodwin wrote: > >> > From: Pat Finnegan <pat(a)purdueriots.com> >> >> > What I'm looking to do is provide a (small) SLIP or PPP based TCP/IP >> stack >> > for a machine that will stay resident and can be used by CP/M 2.2 [or >> > perhaps MP/M II] user programs. >> >> Pat -- >> >> I would be extremely interested to learn of your progress in this area. >> Please keep us posted, or contact me off-list. > >I'm starting to have some second thoughts about how I'm going to do this. >I'm considering an external 'black box' that will connect to a PPP server >on one end and have a RS-232 connection on the other that will provide >something like a serialized verion of BSD's sockets. I'm also thinking >about implementing a raw tcp port that would connect to an extra RS-232 >port [optionally password protected] that could be used to attach to the >system's console, and replicate it on the other end of the network. > >Right now I'm looking at either a Z80 with 32k of ram, 16k of flash, a CTC >and one or two DUARTS, or a uC that'll provide as much of that in hardware >as possible. PICs are nice, but generally seem to have too little memory >for TX/RX buffers, and Basic stamps are too slow. (and who wants to >program in BASIC anyways?) > >Any suggestions on a good uC to use? > >-- Pat > > >

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[CCTECH] Re: anybody out there?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

***This should've went out yesterday. Seems like a small "problem" between the way Win/Outlook and D/UX3.2/Netscape handle the Reply-To (or is it Sender) field in a message..**** ! From: Bob Bramwell [mailto:bob@copenhagen.cuug.ab.ca] ! ! Sure is quiet, isn't it? But I'm listening, and this can ! serve as a test of my ! ability to submit to the list by the simple expedient of ! hitting "reply" in my ! mailer window. Yeah, cctech is kinda quiet, but I believe that has to do with the whole moderation thing, and discussions branching off once they get re-posted to cctalk. I'm currently subscribed to both. I have rules in place to send messages from each list to separate folders. That way, depending on my mood, and workload, I can follow the wandering discussion on cctalk, or just read whatever meat comes through on cctech. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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Dual-booting my DEC 4000-710 at last!

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

Thanks to a friend around the corner, booting DKA0 now gives me AXP/VMS 6.1, and, as before, booting DKC0 gives me Digital Unix 3.2. Now all I need is for the same benefactor to dig out his layered products CDs for AXP and I'm set! One problem... we tried to put a CD-R of the AXP/VMS 6.1 disc into the RRD42 and it didn't like it. Has anyone else had any experience with DEC CD-ROM drives and burned media? Do I need to get a different drive here? Will a Sun-compatible SCSI CD-ROM drive work in place of an RRD42? (in case the 512 byte/2048 byte sector thing is an issue). Thanks again for all who helped recently. I'm one step closer on my journey to bring my VAX experience to the end of the 20th C. -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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Osborne 1 Video Adapter? (was:RE: IBM 026 Printing Card Punch )

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

The adaptor fits on the 20-contact video edge connector near the middle of the front panel. Just remove the shunt and replace it with the TTL-Composite adaptor. The shunt just takes the signal from the contact on the bottom of the O1's circuit board and carries it to the corresponding contact on the top. So, if the converter does not also run the signals to the top of the O1 board, the internal monitor will not be on -- only the external composite monitor will be. -----Original Message----- From: Glen Goodwin [mailto:acme_ent@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:03 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Osborne 1 Video Adapter? (was:RE: IBM 026 Printing Card Punch) > From: Feldman, Robert <Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com> > I was looking through the Alltronics listings and noticed a TTL-Composite > video adaptor (http://www.alltronics.com/computer_miscellaneous.htm , > #92C024) that looks like the adaptor I have for my Osborne 1! Robert -- Please tell me more about this adapter. I like my Oz 1 but hate the screen. Where does it connect to the Oz? Glen 0/0

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Dual-booting my DEC 4000-710 at last!

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> I've got a couple of CD-R v7.2 sets, and haven't had a problem booting >from them on my RRD42. But Roxio, on my Spousal Equivalent's Windows >box, hurled trying to dupe the original. I used dd. I believe Roxio (EZ CD Creator, as was) insists that the initial 64 (?) blocks (which ISO9660 deliberately leaves undefined) must be zero (or some fixed values) and gets upset when they are not. Almost anything else will happily blindly copy a CD even if it cannot interpret the contents (e.g. Gear and CDR-Win both seem fine with creating OpenVMS CDs). Antonio

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Looking for documentation/software for a 32032 based coprocessor card man...

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 5/30/02 12:35:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bernd(a)kopriva.de writes: > it's not a SPARC card (such cards have been produced some years after my > card), it's a card > containing a National Semicoductor NS32032. The card maybe named Opus > Sys/32 (or something > like that, there have been some different versions with 32032 and 32332 > processors). What bus is the card for or is it standalone? I had some Opus cards for an ISA bus but they were based on the 88000 chipset, not the 32032. Paxton Astoria, OR

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Looking for documentation/software for a 32032 based coprocessor card manufactured by Opus

by bernd＠kopriva.de

Today, i got a Opus coprocessor card ... ... it includes a 32032-10 processor and 2 MB Ram. Is there any documentation available or maybe some software (there must have been even a Unix implementation) to get the card up and running ? Thanks Bernd Bernd Kopriva Phone: ++49-7195-179452 Weilerstr. 24 E-Mail: bernd(a)kopriva.de D-71397 Leutenbach Germany

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Call Me Crazy Anytime You Want

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

I've been trying to get a clue what I'm talking about, but there are just too many unrelated hits on Google. I was at a company barbeque Sunday and my boss was busting on me, telling a co-worker I heat my house with my computer collection. When he mentioned the PDP-11, Nici looks over at her cousin and says "He'd fall in LOVE with that Prime..." Evidently, their family has one, in storage in Oregon. She has no idea what model it is, but describes it as being waist-high, "deep as a regular rack", and 7 or 8 feet long. So roughly 36"x30"x84". The next time she goes home to Oregon, the Prime is coming home to Papa. :) Probably July or August. Woohoo! Doc

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Dual-booting my DEC 4000-710 at last!

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>One problem... we tried to put a CD-R of the AXP/VMS 6.1 disc into >the RRD42 and it didn't like it. Has anyone else had any experience >with DEC CD-ROM drives and burned media? Do I need to get a different >drive here? Will a Sun-compatible SCSI CD-ROM drive work in place >of an RRD42? (in case the 512 byte/2048 byte sector thing is an >issue). I have the same problems with an RRD42 here. Two RRD43s and a TOSHIBA XM-3401TA all work well. My RRD44 spat out a CD-R when I tried it just now (but that may be a bad CD-R). I suspect it's an age thing - an RRD46 would probably be fine. Antonio

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A couple of firsts for me (Commodore)

by fernande＠internet1.net

Well, a friend whose moving was digging through his attic and found the families old Commodore 128. This is the first time a friend has ever given me an old computer, I think. It's also the first Commodore in my collection. I had sort of been avoiding Commodores since my only experience with them was with my old Vic 20. I had fun with it, but I wished it had been an Apple //e..... that's what I really wanted. I eventually got an Apple //e and used them in school, too. I got the C128, and a 1581 floppy drive. No monitor and no software, unfortunetly. The other day, I saw a Commodore monitor at Goodwill, along with another model floppy drive. I think I may go pick those up tomorrow. Does this have an OS in Rom, or does it need a "boot" disk like an Apple //? I like the slim design, although and internal power supply would have been nice. I think I like the was the Apple //'s are built, better. The C128 was kind of difficult to disassemble. I actually had to use a soldering iron..... something I've never done while disassembling a computer. Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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