- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by sales＠elecplus.com

All of these are gone, except for some AC adapters. Some Tandy 1000 series left. No Apple II or IIe, just lots of Apple/Mac laptops. Lots of classic IBM compatible laptops, from 8088 to P3, various stages of completeness, mostly untested. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-792-3400 phone 830-792-3404 fax sales at elecplus.com AOL IM elcpls

11 years, 11 months

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DE9 pigtail pinouts

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

While I'm prepping parts for P112 kits, I started thinking about DE-9 pigtails. These things come in two different pinouts. One of them is pin-1 of the header connects to pin-1 on the DE-9. When wiring up a pigtail like this manually, you cut the ribbon cable into two sections. One sections goes on the top row of the DE-9. The other section goes on the bottom. The other one has the pins interleaved. See http://661.org/p112/files/pigtail.pdf for what I mean. The P112 was designed with the second pinout in mind. When I bought pigtails for my first run of P112s, I managed to get that kind. For subsequent runs, I always got the first kind. Which pinout is more common with actual devices? I ask this because I'm tinkering with an amateur radio project that will eventually use DE-9 pigtails. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

11 years, 11 months

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Radio Shack computer desk for Model II?

by nf6x＠nf6x.net

Here's another long shot: Does anybody near southern California have one of the Radio Shack computer desks that were configured to hold a Model II that they might consider parting with, like the one in this catalog page? http://www.radioshackcatalogs.com/html/catalogs_extra/1979_rsc-03/h002.html Or any of the other computer desks sold by Radio Shack for the TRS-80 machines, for that matter? -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net> http://www.nf6x.net/

11 years, 11 months

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Help? Any Data General DG10 documentation/software available

by colineby＠isallthat.com

Hi ? Thought I?d see if there were any list members who could provide background information on the Data General DG10. We?ve received a working system as a donation, but there?s no software or documentation with it. I understand the hardware was very specific to the model since it used a MICROeclipse coupled to an i8086. What I don?t know is whether we need to locate model specific disk images to run AOS or RDOS on it. Also not sure how specific application code has to be. It would be useful to find service manuals, programming manuals and media. I understand Wild Hare Computers was working on an archive, but there doesn?t seem to be much in the public domain as yet. Can anyone offer any guidance? Thanks Colin

11 years, 11 months

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TRW/Motorola CPUAX information?

by spacewar＠gmail.com

Has anyone ever seen any detailed tech info on the TRW/Motorola CPUAX, circa 1989? It's mentioned in Motorola's annual report and in some trade journals, but I can't find any info that wasn't just press release stuff.

11 years, 12 months

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CMD CI? disk arrays

by aek＠bitsavers.org

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351154468219 the coax coming off of them got me wondering, are these CI attached disk arrays?

11 years, 12 months

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Power supply debugging advice (Interact Model One)

by derschjo＠gmail.com

While I wait for PROMs to arrive for my 11/05 I've pulled another "back-burner" project off the shelf. It's an Interact Model One (http://oldcomputers.net/interact.html) and it's having power supply issues. The symptom: At initial startup after being off for any significant period of time (say, 10 minutes or longer) the +5V comes up for 2-3 seconds then drops to zero. The other supplies (+/- 12V) are fine. What I've done so far: - Recapped the electrolytics in the supply (I had the parts on hand, and it's three capacitors. Sorry for the shotgun approach, Tony :)). - Removed socketed 2114 RAMs (in case one was shorted). No change in behavior. The power supply and logic are incorporated into a single PCB, so it is difficult to separate the two (I guess I'd have to figure out what traces to cut, and I'd rather not mangle things if I can avoid it). The DC supply is fed by an external "wall wart" which I *believe* just contains a transformer -- it outputs several flavors of AC (16.5V and 19V), no DC. Any suggestions for where to start with this? Power supplies are voodoo to me, still. The power supply schematics can be found in here: http://www.thebattles.net/oddments/interact/InteractSchem.pdf (page 6, lower right corner). Thanks! Josh

11 years, 12 months

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Some Altair questions, if I may.. (drlegendre .)

by dm561＠torfree.net

Good advice for me too ;-) - sorry about the subject line in my previous post... ----- Original Message ----- Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 10:48:46 -0500 From: "drlegendre ." <drlegendre at gmail.com> Now back to your original point, the one you felt I was missing.. > Pin #41 had the 470 to gnd, but no 330 to VT+, so it was at a true logic low, pulled down by the 470. This causes the 7404 output to go high, turning off the LED. When I connected the 330 part, Pin 41 came up to 2.8VDC (about 1/2 of VT+) which I guess the 7404 sees as a high (?) switching off the 7404 output and turning on the LED. > All good so far? -----Reply: Just like your misleading post about the LM309's output being connected to the 8V supply rail, you had specifically said that "there aren't *any* resistors connected to it, which is why it's sitting low. I checked that out." No mention of the 470 ohm pull-down resistor... Maybe you could save some time by checking more carefully before posting...

11 years, 12 months

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cctalk Digest, Vol 132, Issue 49

by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message ----- Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 10:48:46 -0500 From: "drlegendre ." <drlegendre at gmail.com> Now back to your original point, the one you felt I was missing.. > Pin #41 had the 470 to gnd, but no 330 to VT+, so it was at a true logic low, pulled down by the 470. This causes the 7404 output to go high, turning off the LED. When I connected the 330 part, Pin 41 came up to 2.8VDC (about 1/2 of VT+) which I guess the 7404 sees as a high (?) switching off the 7404 output and turning on the LED. > All good so far? -----Reply: Just like your misleading post about the LM309's output being connected to the 8V supply rail, you had specifically said that "there aren't *any* resistors connected to it, which is why it's sitting low. I checked that out." No mention of the 470 ohm pull-down resistor... Maybe you could save some time by checking more carefully before posting...

11 years, 12 months

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RSX-PLUS-III

by mattislind＠gmail.com

Many years ago my father recovered a whole lot of documentation from a PDP-15 system at Philips in Stockholm that unfortunately already was gone (scrapped or given away). The lot is several meters worth of shelf space. I have put a photo of the cover of one of the manuals online: http://www.datormuseum.se/documentation-software/pdp-15-documentation I checked bitsavers quickly but didn't find a matching document. Are these documents already online somewhere or should I bother go through the whole lot and document what kind of document there are? /Mattis

11 years, 12 months

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SerialTCP for Mac

by joecassara＠mac.com

Hi Retro fans, I have a cache of retro computers I wanted to grant access to the internet. As we all know, utilities exist to open and send TCP sockets to a serial port (Jim Brain's TCPSer is awesome), but getting them to work right on a Mac can be challenging. So, I wrote my own: http://cassarasoftware.com/serialtcp-for-mac/ It's rather bare bones at the moment, but gets the job done. I hope it helps everyone looking to get their old stuff online! ? Joe

11 years, 12 months

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Incoterm SPD 900?

by mattislind＠gmail.com

In the early eighties we got a unit which we think is a Incoterm SPD 900 intelligent terminal. At that time it was running just fine. Until now we had it in store but it has not been tested again lately. Now I would like to see if it is possible to get it running again. It is quite interesting in that it is a display unit with built in computer. The CPU is a Incoterm proprietary implementation with a core memory. Attached to this display unit there is a disk unit that employs hard sectored diskettes. The machine was running an operating system called SPD/DOS. Actually there were all sorts of software for this machine as I recall. Even small games. An early personal computer in some sense. When searching the net I came across this post http://marc.info/?l=classiccmp&m=104965775322087&w=2 by Al Kossow. Well now, more than 12 years later, I can confirm that the disk found by Al is >from an Incoterm system running the SPD/DOS system. Anyway. I have put together a page with some information on it: http://www.datormuseum.se/peripherals/terminals/incoterm-spd-20-20 If there is anyone that can enlighten me more about this unit I would appreciate it. If there would be engineering drawings available I am very interested. During my searches on the net I found this page with mostly ex Incoterm people disussing: http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/33/window-to-the-sky-the… Another interesting thing is that the SPD/DOS reference manual still can loaned from a library in Sweden. http://miks.kib.ki.se/search*swe/?searchtype=X&SORT=D&searcharg=SPD%2FDOS&s… Apparently at Karolinska Institutet in Huddinge south of Stockholm. Maybe I should go and find it there... The reason for being available is probably that these terminals were used by the Swedish LIBRIS II system at several libraries in Sweden. /Mattis

11 years, 12 months

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anybody need some Signetics 10144 or Nat Semi MM5292 chips?

by elson＠pico-systems.com

We were having a garage sale, and I stumbled on a box of Signetics 10144 chips, salvaged, these are, I think, 256 x 1 ECL static RAMs. Also a bunch of new in original tubes National Semi. MM5262 2K x 1 DRAM chips. I must have over 100 of each. Anybody need some to repair something QUITE classic? Jon

11 years, 12 months

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Todd Goodman has been refunded-

by slandon110＠gmail.com

Todd goodman has been refunded for the error on my part, I apologize for any inconvenience this caused anybody and for the drama. Here is proof http://imgur.com/gSLu1Mm Thank You Steve

11 years, 12 months

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Looking for manuals, paperwork, SW for IBM 5322 Datamaster and IBM 5120 (5110 Type 3) and a case part

by afahimi＠fahimienterprises.com

Hello Everyone, I am new to the list although some members will know me from the Erik's VCFs. I recently acquired two 5322s and a 5120 and amazingly all three work to some extent. 1. My first 5322 blew the filter caps 30 seconds into powering it up. I am waiting for replacement parts. 2. The second one seems to be stable but the drives may have errors - they fail the ROM based diagnostics. 3. My 5120 is actually working well except the screen jumps sometimes so I am guessing the PSU is shaky (no pun intended) at best. I don't know enough about the system to do anything more complex then run the prerequisite "Hello World" program. I have been looking for documentations, HMS, programs etc. for either of these systems to help in troubleshooting and repair. While the 5110 (type 1 and 2) and to a smaller extent the 5100 documentation is available as PFDs the other two systems have been ignored for the most part. Any help is appreciated in the form of actual physical product, digital info, or even personal experiences. I am also looking for the bottom half of the back portion of a 5322 if anyone is parting one out. Thank you.

11 years, 12 months

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MorphOS for PowerPC- Fun OS worth checking out

by slandon110＠gmail.com

I recently downloaded and installed MorphOS the Amiga Compatible operating system for PowerPC G4 systems. So far its really cool, Especially if you are into Amiga, You can run most classic amiga software on it natively :), If you got a spare iBook G4 or old G4/G5 based system laying around, Give it a look. Its a ton of fun to work with :) http://www.morphos-team.net/

11 years, 12 months

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MicroPDP-11/73 On/Off Switch

by pontus＠update.uu.se

Hi I'm restoring a MicroPDP-11/73. I've made some initial notes here: http://www.pdp8.se/pdp1173_restore.shtml The ON/OFF rocker switch is broken. Three small plastic teeth that hold the springs in place have broken of and a forth is cracked and will soon break. I've tried three different kinds of glue without a getting a strong enough bond. I will make another attempt with a fourth kind. But, I wonder if these are available somewhere? The only marking I've found is "UND.LAB.INC.LIST" which seems to be a brand with several different kinds of rockers, some available but not the one used on this MicroPDP-11. By the looks of it, the same switch is used on MicroVAX. In the meantime I will probably take one from a spare machine. I'm borrowing a picture from the net here, but it is like the switch labled "1 0" here: https://www.codehosting.net/blog/images/pdp/frontpanel.jpg /P

11 years, 12 months

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Needed - Static RAM board & more for Altair / S-100 project

by drlegendre＠gmail.com

Howdy folks, I'm just about in the final stretch of my Altair 8800 restoration (more like a total re-construction..) and there are a couple of parts that I obviously need to pick-up. FYI, this is a 'to factory' restoration, so the 8800 is going back to where it was when it was built from a kit. This isn't totally true, as this particular unit was later fitted with the "B" power supply and that will remain. It's obviously far superior to the "A" version and I don't have any of the A PSU parts. First off, I need a static RAM board for it. Ideally, I'd like a 1K or 4K MITS part.. but any +small capacity+ static board will probably fit the bill, particularly if it's has hand-drawn traces and is built on the clear-whitish board material as is the Processor board. I'm not sure what to call this color or type of board.. so please chime-in. Secondly, I'm thinking really hard about replacing the motherboard (or as MITS called it the 'expansion board'). As it sits, it has a Processor Tech. MB-1 16 (!!) slot board that's going to look a little silly with only two or maybe three cards plugged in it. Does anyone have an original 2 or 4-slot mainboard, or even a 3rd party board that's not so dang huge? So to this end, I have a few items to trade if that would work. There's a 64K (max 256K) dynamic RAM board, a Z-80 board, a floppy disk controller board, what looks like an RS-232 board, and a couple other minor items. All parts are in great shape, look ready to run. TIA for any and all help. Feel free to contact me off-list to work out deals. -Bill

11 years, 12 months

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putting drivers on a floppy disk

by rmx44＠aim.com

i happen to have gotten windows 95 installed on my old panasonic toughbook cf-27 but i have one issue where the drivers i need are a bit to large for a floppy disk and even trying to compress the files in a 7zip or a zip file does no good. i still need an audio driver and the pcmcia card slot driver to install. also i wish i could find a usb driver for my iomega zip 100 usb zip drive for windows 95 but thats not possible and since lenovo took over iomega they dropped lots of old drivers. i have tried to track down iomega drivers but i end up at sites that claim they have the driver only to be given an installer to a driver program thats a scam. maybe someone out there could help i still need the audio driver which is a yamaha sound card and windows 95 claims its a creative when its not also i need the pcmcia driver.

11 years, 12 months

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Phil Katz and PKZip (was: putting drivers on a floppy disk)

by billdeg＠buzz1.com

>...Phil Katz and PKZip... I still have my original copy of PKZip with manual. Here is an example of a "post-vintage" yet historic software killer ap whatever you want to call it. I agree that this is/was a very important piece of software and should be recognized. Here's to Phil! Even though they're off-topic here, I still make a point to archive the 1990-1996 software that I found useful. Many of us back then used to carry around our super support disk that almost always included pzkip, pkunzip and pkfix, laplink (ll.exe), and many others. From a preservation standpoint, I have saved these disks "as they were" because they help put things in perspective. I also had early Win 3.1 TCPIP windsock, BTRIEVE, editors, etc. PCTools disks, etc. Bill

11 years, 12 months

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putting drivers on a floppy disk

by feldman.r＠comcast.net

? >Message: 5 >Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:36:00 -0700 >From: Chuck Guzis cclist at sydex.com <snip> >Have you tried the pkzip -& switch? ?(spans disks) > > >--Chuck ? ? WinZip will also create zip files that span 1.44MB floppies (I have Version 18; use Tools menu > Multi-Part Zip File). ? Bob

11 years, 12 months

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11/03 CPU ROMS

by useddec＠gmail.com

Does anyone have a list of the various roms and their replacements that were used in the 11/03 (M7264 and M7272)? Many Thanks, Paul

11 years, 12 months

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source for some MM5204 EPROMs?

by spacewar＠gmail.com

I'd like to get at least 2, and preferably 4 or more, MM5204 EPROMs. This is a 512x8 that isn't pin-compatible with anything else (except the MM5214 masked ROM). Does anyone care to sell some, or know a seller? If all else fails I could make adapters to use a more modern part, but I'd rather avoid that if possible. Thanks! Eric

11 years, 12 months

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Need to sell one more P112 kit

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

I need to sell just one more P112 kit in order to pay for a run of parts bags. If you've ever wanted a P112 kit, now's the time to order one (or more). -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu

12 years

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Available: IBM 3290 split-view Plasma Terminal

by ian.finder＠gmail.com

Hi folks, I impulse bought this thing locally a couple weeks ago, then realized I have no IBM gear to go with it :[ It's a really cool piece of kit, but I've just moved and could really use the space. Just want to get back what I paid for it: $50 + actual S&H. I get a pretty great discount on shipping through work, so even for a big nasty terminal like this, it should be pretty cheap. Unit is in good condition, powers on, comes with keyboard. A couple keycaps are missing, and someone yanked the keyboard jack off the board, but it's been bodged back on and appears to work. Anyone with a soldering iron should be able to do a better job re-connecting the jack, although it appears to work as is. I just don't have time or room for the damn thing. Located in 98105 (seattle) if anyone local wants it-- or I could hold it for a bit if anyone will be in the area soon. Please respond off-list. Cheers, - Ian P.S. Hope for-sale posts are allowed-- been a CCtalk reader for a while and never noticed any issue with them, but who knows. -- Ian Finder ian.finder at gmail.com

12 years

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Using 10Mb Ethernet with 1Gigabit switches

by chd＠chdickman.com

I've been playing with a couple VaxStations and a qbus PDP11 recently and have been having trouble with connecting 10Mb ethernet to 100Mb and 1Gb switches. I have several 10base-T transceivers that I use since all my 10base2 hardware is in storage. Today for example, I connected a DELQA in the PDP11 to a 10-100-1000 switch and it did not work. I got out a 10-100 hub and put it between the PDP11 and the switch and it worked fine. Another example, my VS4000/60 netboots fine, but NetBSD will not detect the network interface unless it is connected to the "right" switch. All the switches and hubs I am using are from a collection of unmanaged consumer grade stuff (TRENDnet, ASUS, Linksys, etc.) that I have accumulated. Curious if anybody else has similar trouble when mixing old with new and slow with fast. -chuck

12 years

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VT240 Monitor Error - 9

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

I just got a VT240 with a VR201 monitor. When I switch it on it displays "??240 Monitor Error - 9" (although the question marks are reversed). The terminal works otherwise. It displays the setup menus, and it works when connected to one of my VAXen. I have looked in the docs I have, but none have troubleshooting information, and I can't find anything online. Any idea what this error means? Incidentally, I used to use a software package called UNIRAS to do graphics on VAXen, does anyone know if it is still possible to find this software? Anyone got anything to exercise the VT240's graphical capabilities? I believe Datatrieve has something, but I don't want to install that just to test the VT240. Regards Rob

12 years

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Sun 3/50 and Sun 3 keyboards (Re: old Sun metal kbd is GONE!)

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 2:04 AM, Kurt M. Nowak <kurt.m.nowak at gmail.com> wrote: > On 8/13/2014 2:01 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: >> >> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Electronics Plus <sales at elecplus.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> The old Sun kbd has been claimed. >> >> I didn't think that would take long. I don't have any Sun gear that >> old or I would have spoken up (my oldest is a 3/50 for which I still >> need to make a DA15-DIN8 adapter or find a sun3 kb). >> >> -ethan > > I use a Sun type 5 (not 5c) keyboard with the removable cable and use a sun > mini-DIN8M to DB15M, cable P/N 530-1478-02. Don't have one of those or I'd use it. Did a quick google on the P/N... http://www.upgradebay.com/Products/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=169290343 Um... $255?!? They are on the drugs. Yes, I can make one. No I haven't made one. A list member is sending me a real Sun3 kb this week. Of course now that something is moving on this, I wonder if I have a suitable monitor... I know I have a working Viking Moniterm I (and the Amiga card to go with it). Apparently, on this very list, it was mentioned 13 years ago that the monitor has DIP switches for its timing settings (1280x1024 @ 60hz was apparently common, and as used with the A2024-compatible adapter, 1024x800 @ 60Hz or 1024x1024 @ 50Hz) http://marc.info/?l=classiccmp&m=104957388722023&w=2 Anyone know if it'll do 1600x1100 @ 66Hz or 1152x900 @ 67 Hz? Even if it can, would it require an ECL->TTL level converter for the video? A quick google is not revealing tech docs for the Moniterm I (but there's plenty of cautions out there that they fail often). -ethan

12 years

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Univac removable disk cartridges

by jdr_use＠bluewin.ch

Neven seen one of these before, where would these have been used ? http://pics.ricardostatic.ch/2_740709122_Big/antike-technik-und-geraete/uni… Jos

12 years

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CAPS-11 on a TU-60 tape found

by malcolm＠avitech.com.au

> >I found a TU-60 tape with what is apparently CAPS-11. > >The tape label has the following texts : >DEC-11-OTSYA-A-TC >CAPS-11 V01-02 >SYSTEM CASSETTE Hi Ed, CAPS-11 and BASIC/CAPS-11 have been recovered recently from TU-60 tapes. Both packages are now available on the SIMH "Software Kits" page. Manuals are also available here -> http://www.avitech.com.au/basic_caps-11/ Regards, Malcolm

12 years

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IBM PC rear trim panels… Why are they uncommon?

by nf6x＠nf6x.net

It seems to me that a large percentage of original PCs, XTs and ATs that I've ever seen have been missing the plastic rear trim panels. Is there any particular reason why those seem to have been so commonly removed and lost or discarded? -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net> http://www.nf6x.net/

12 years

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Terminal emulator for TRS-80 Model 1?

by fozztexx＠fozztexx.com

Somewhere in the last couple of days I saw mention of a terminal emulator program for the TRS-80 Model 1, but I don?t remember what it was or where I saw it. I didn?t think about it because I was able to get kermit on the TRS-80, but I just pulled it out again and kermit kinda sucks. It types in all uppercase unless I hold down the shift key, and it?s got no cursor. Anyone know of something that?s better? Follow me on twitter: @FozzTexx Check out my blog: http://insentricity.com

12 years

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Needed: Diagnostic listings for DEC RL controller&disk drives

by j_hoppe＠t-online.de

Hi all, I'm trying to repair a bunch of DEC RL11 controllers. (These are the UNIBUS boards for RL01/RL02 disc drives). Running the PDP-11 diagnostics ZRLA, ZRLB, ... ZRLN from XXDP or papertape prints out some errors, but without the diagnostic assembler listings I don't understand what's wrong. At the moment I know only of these 4 listings: AC-E040B-MC_CZRLBB0-RL11_RLV11-Controller-part-2_Oct78.pdf AC-E044B-MC_CZRLCB0-RL01-Drive-Test-part-1_Oct78.pdf AC-E048B-MC_CZRLDB0-RL01-Drive-Test-part-2_Oct78.pdf AC-E246B-MC_CZRLEB0-RL01_RLV11_Exerciser_Oct78.pdf These are all for paper tape based MAINDEC diagnostics, and are also incomplete: At least both "part 1" AND "part 2" is needed for ZRLB, ZRLC, ZRLD. Can you point me to some hidden archives? Or do you have more assembler listings for ZRL diagnostics lying around? Bitsavers needs your input! Thanks, joerg

12 years

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Looking for M7263 and M7847 boards

by jaquinn2001＠gmail.com

Looking for these boards to help with my PDP11/04 restoration. Not easily available in New Zealand but I will be in New York in September so if anyone has boards they are willing to sell please contact me off list at jaquinn at ihug.co.nz Regards Andrew

12 years

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old Sun metal kbd is GONE!

by sales＠elecplus.com

The old Sun kbd has been claimed. Still have the type 4, 5, 5c, and 6. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-792-3400 phone 830-792-3404 fax sales at elecplus.com AOL IM elcpls

12 years

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New Sun Docs Posted - Hardware too

by silent700＠gmail.com

Three new Sun binders scanned tonight with a pair of special docs this time. It's all been software previous to these but tonight we have the elusive (at least I couldn't find it) Sun PROM User's Manual (doc# 800-1736-10.) This one has lots of juicy info going back to the Sun-2 (including the LED flash codes I'll need to diagnose my -2 boards) up through some of the Sun-4 series and the 386i. I'm sure a lot of that info is out there in FAQs and Usenet posts but this may be the source of that knowledge in one place (not to discount personal experience.) There is also a system diags manual that spans a few platforms as well. And riding along with these two is the "Editing Text Files" tome, covering your favorite editors of the period. The filenames are here: 800-1736-10_SunPROMUsersManual_RevA09May1988.pdf 800-1738-10_SunSystemDiagnosticsManual_RevA09May1988.pdf 800-1754-10_EditingTextFiles_RevA09May1988.pdf and the files can be found here: http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing/Sun Enjoy! -- silent700.blogspot.com Retrocomputing and collecting in the Chicago area: http://chiclassiccomp.org

12 years

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VCF Midwest 2014

by silent700＠gmail.com

Hello ccmp'ers - July is almost here and that means it's time for me to start making noise about our yearly Midwestern weekend-of-fun. This year's Vintage Computer Festival Midwest will be held a bit earlier than in previous years, owing to the usual scheduling conflicts with holidays and other events. The weekend for 2014 is September 13-14. Those coming from out of town and staying over night should call the hotel ASAP. Registration at the group rate has been open a few weeks now but last I heard rooms are still available. If you would like table space, please email me privately with your requirements and what you'd like to display and or sell. Most of the provided tables are 2'x5'. If you can bring your own folding table, please do! We run out of tables before we run out of space to put them. We've got a new site up with actual content, including an ever-expanding FAQ. Have a look and feel free to post about anything not covered there: http://vcfmw.org See you in September! -j -- silent700.blogspot.com Retrocomputing and collecting in the Chicago area: http://chiclassiccomp.org

12 years

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IBM PC rear trim panels? Why are they uncommon?

by afahimi＠alumni.usc.edu

> To the best of my recollection, the 5170 in its native form did not > include a trim panel. However, it was included (ISTR anyway) with the > "sit the box vertically on the floor" IBM kit. > >--Chuck Those were actually two different options. The grey back panel came standard with all 5170 AFAIK. Since they were only put on by Velcro most are lost (like the front lock keys). The tower option (or as it is formally known: Personal Computer AT Floor Standing Option 6450218) allowed you to stand up the 5170 on its side. In fact you cannot use both the grey back panel and the Floor Standing Option together. Check out VCF - I have pictures of both of posted.

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Interesting cheap gadget: RS232 to TCP/IP convertor

by lproven＠gmail.com

Yes really. ?11, about $15 or so. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251594530679 -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) ? +420 702 829 053 (?R)

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CompuServe Magazine Scans

by silent700＠gmail.com

I am very pleased to announce, and be done with, the scanning of a small stack of CompuServe Magazine, the magazine sent to subscribers of the online service of the same name. There are 19 issues in all, various months from 1990, 91 and 92. They're full of ads for "The Mall," CompuServe's online shopping service, with a good sampling of the products of the times. The articles cover a wide range of topics (and how they're accessible on their service) as well as predictions of CompuServe's existence for decades to come. Not much mention of this "Internet" thing... Due to the size of the files and the ease of reading documents in their browser, I uploaded the scans to archive.org instead of our usual docs site. All of the issues should be accessible with this search: https://archive.org/search.php?query=compuserve%20magazine Enjoy! - jht -- silent700.blogspot.com Retrocomputing and collecting in the Chicago area: http://chiclassiccomp.org

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Commodore 64, 128 and TI/99 still in original boxes

by sales＠elecplus.com

I have one of each in their original boxes, tested working, extra books/manuals, programs, etc. Also a number of C64 that have issues, and some untested TI99s. LOTS of AC adapters for Atari, Commodore machines. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-792-3400 phone 830-792-3404 fax sales at elecplus.com AOL IM elcpls

12 years

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CAPS-11 on a TU-60 tape found

by cube1＠charter.net

I might, but will be out of town until sept. I may even have that same tape - I have a drive and a number of tapes. "E. Groenenberg" <quapla at xs4all.nl> wrote: > >I found a TU-60 tape with what is apparently CAPS-11. > >The tape label has the following texts : >DEC-11-OTSYA-A-TC >CAPS-11 V01-02 >SYSTEM CASSETTE > >A loose label lists the (apparent) contents date 09-aug-73 : > >CTLOAD SYS 08-aug-73 >CAPS11 S8K 09-AUG-73 >PIP SRU 09-AUG-73 >EDIT SLG 09-AUG-73 >LINK SRU 09-AUG-73 >ODT SLG 09-AUG-73 >PAL SRU 09-AUG-73 >DEMO PAL 09-AUG-73 > >Is the anybody who is able to image this tape so the community >can us it? > >Ed > >-- >Dit is een HTML vrije email / This is an HTML free email. >Zeg NEE tegen de 'slimme' meter. >

12 years

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CRT Question - Old Calculator

by rickb＠bensene.com

Hello, all, I am in the midst of restoration of a very old (1964-ish) electronic calculator called the Wyle Laboratories Scientific Model WS-02. This is a transistorized electronic calculator that uses a magnetostrictive delay line for register storage, and a CRT display for showing the working registers and memory registers. The CRT is driven by sine/cosine signals to generate fully-formed stroke-style digits. I don't know if it's magnetically or electrostatically deflected...is there any easy way to tell? There are some coils around the neck of the CRT, but they are not as large as I'm used to seeing on CRT's of this size (8"). The question that I have is that I want to test out the power supply circuitry to make sure that all is healthy there. I have removed the logic module from the machine (the logic module contains all of the calculating and display generation logic, and comes out as a unit). I have also disconnected the video driver board. The connector at the back end of the CRT is unplugged. There are a couple of wires that go to the coils around the neck of the CRT, but they are connected to the video driver board, which is disconnected. The high voltage connector from the flyback is still connected to the CRT. At this point, I've traced out the main logic voltages (+12, -12) and a -30V supply that are used throughout the machine. I want to slowly bring up the power supply with a Variac and monitor the voltages and ripple to see if the power supply is still healthy. However, I'm concerned about having the high voltage supply connected to the CRT without any other connections on it? Could the high voltage supply be hurt because it may be missing signals it needs to oscillate properly? Could this hurt the CRT? I don't know enough about the way this kind of stuff works to know if I could cause any problems, either with the CRT, or the high voltage supply. I'd appreciate any guidance that may be given prior to trying to light this thing up. Thank you, Rick Bensene The Old Calculator Museum http://oldcalculatormuseum.com

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Tape Oven (was Re: An 8 Inch Disk Lathe)

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

> > From: Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:21:57 -0700 > Subject: Re: Tape Oven (was Re: An 8 Inch Disk Lathe) > On 8/15/14 11:02 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > > Well, there is a new winner in the "most evil tape category" that makes > MRX V look good in comparison. > > Wabash (who would have guessed..) > > The Wabash is BAD > I would think that 3M Blackwatch would be at the top of your list. -- Michael Thompson

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Late 09 iMac loaded- Forgive me its not vintage

by falco＠ihug.co.nz

It's obvious - two people used it at once for a couple of years. Presumably they had half the keyboard each, and fought over the mouse. On 18/08/2014 1:08 p.m., Chris Pye wrote: > On 18 Aug 2014, at 10:25 am, Steven Landon [1] wrote: > >> Replacing my iMac finally after 7 years of good use, Ive decided to upgrade > How do you get 7 years use out of a machine that's only 5 years old? Links: ------ [1] mailto:slandon110 at gmail.com

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CAPS-11 on a TU-60 tape found

by quapla＠xs4all.nl

I found a TU-60 tape with what is apparently CAPS-11. The tape label has the following texts : DEC-11-OTSYA-A-TC CAPS-11 V01-02 SYSTEM CASSETTE A loose label lists the (apparent) contents date 09-aug-73 : CTLOAD SYS 08-aug-73 CAPS11 S8K 09-AUG-73 PIP SRU 09-AUG-73 EDIT SLG 09-AUG-73 LINK SRU 09-AUG-73 ODT SLG 09-AUG-73 PAL SRU 09-AUG-73 DEMO PAL 09-AUG-73 Is the anybody who is able to image this tape so the community can us it? Ed -- Dit is een HTML vrije email / This is an HTML free email. Zeg NEE tegen de 'slimme' meter.

12 years

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Displaywriter 8" filesystem?

by david＠attglobal.net

I've imaged a little stack of Displaywriter 8" disks and am starting in on filesystem organization. With an EBCDIC filter I can see the data plain as day. I've also got experience stitching together the DisplayWriter files that come from the DOS-based system, so if I could get the file allocation scheme figured out and lift off whole files from these disk images, I bet the same conversion code would work on the resulting data. I've browsed the manuals on Bitsavers, but of course IBM never intended their users to actually look at the bytes on the disk. So none of the information was geared towards revealing the file allocation secrets. Is there any reference material out there to help me decode (or find) the file allocation structures? - David

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FS: Late 09 iMac loaded- Forgive me its not vintage

by slandon110＠gmail.com

Replacing my iMac finally after 7 years of good use, Ive decided to upgrade The specs are as follows Core 2 Duo 3.06ghz 14GB RAM 500GB Hard Drive Adobe Creative Suite 6 Final Cut Pro 7 Studio Final Cut Pro X Office 2011 Its a nice machine great for video editing and document processing and other tasks, Ive used it to work with my vintage machines. Asking $750 or best and can deliver to VCFMW/ECCC

12 years

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PDP-11/05 debugging tips?

by derschjo＠gmail.com

Hi all -- As I mentioned a few days back, I recently picked up an 11/05 that's in need of some troubleshooting. This weekend I've started getting more acquainted with the details of the CPU set (reading through the schematics and the various manuals (which are quite thorough, fortunately.)) Before I start getting too deep with this, I figured I'd see if maybe I'm overlooking something simple -- I'm relatively green with Unibus systems. So here's what I'm seeing: - At power-up, the system comes up in a halted state and I can load addresses from the front panel switches into the address register, and these are correctly loaded -- no stuck bits, etc. - Toggling "Start" causes the "Run" light to go on and the system seems to be doing... something (the address/data lamps flicker). Attempting to halt the machine at this point does not work, but if I have the "Enable/Halt" switch set to "Halt" and hit "Start" again the machine does stop and the "Run" light goes out. - Hitting "Exam" while halted has no effect (no data is loaded, addresses are not incremented), and seems to lock the machine up -- I can no longer load addresses via the front panel. Hitting "Start" still puts the machine in the "Run" state outlined above, and once halted again, "Load Addr" works again. - Hitting "Cont" while halted puts the machine back in the "Run" state regardless of the state of the "Enable/Halt" switch. So it definitely looks like the Run state control logic should be looked at... The machine's configuration is very basic: the CPU set (M7260/M7261), an 8KW core board set (G110, G231, H215), and an M903C Unibus terminator. I've verified that these are all in the correct slots. Bus grant cards are in the D slot of all four Unibus slots (and inserted in the correct orientation, I hate those things...) Thus far I've tested the power supply and voltages are spot on with acceptable ripple. AC LO L and DC LO L are correctly going high after power on, so that shouldn't be causing issues. I've gone through and cleaned everything including the edge connectors. (I left the core plane undisturbed, it's already been banged around enough...) I double-checked the backplane for bent pins that might be touching other pins. I've checked the processor clock, and it's running properly and at the correct rate (310ns). I've run the machine with just the processor set with the same behavior. Any other simple things I should check before I get seriously involved with this thing? Fortunately I have a set of KM-11 replicas I got from Guy Sotomayor a few years back so that will help immensely in debugging... Thanks as always, Josh

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Where to Get "Professional" Packing Done for Shipping a

by c＠meron.cc

On 08/15/2014 04:56 AM, jwsmobile wrote: > Any unit needs to be evaluated for internal components which may not handle > shipping stresses and disassembled if possible before crating. CRT's should > never be left with the factory mounts anymore for instance. On the back of that, are CRTs best shipped with the screen facing down, or forwards? Presumably it's also wise to unplug the neck board from the CRT and secure it. What do people do about the HV transformer? They're normally bulky/heavy and can lack support other than the solder connections on the PCB. I?ve shipped tons of stuff through The UPS Store. They always do a great job packing.? Cameron

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Bring your Amigas to VCFMW 9.0

by slandon110＠gmail.com

Im doing an Amiga Exhibit, Exhibiting my Amiga 2000 and Amiga Like Operating Systems like AROS and MorphOS. So Im putting out the call for peeps to bring out Amiga Stuff. Ill also be showing off The AmigaGO- A portable laptop based UAE System, and the AmigaMini, A thin client based Amiga UAE system.

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UPS and shipping/packing (was Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 132, Issue 38)

by isking＠uw.edu

On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 3:31 PM, <cctalk-request at classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:12:13 -0600 > From: Roe Peterson <roeapeterson at gmail.com> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Cc: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Where to Get "Professional" Packing Done for Shipping a > Message-ID: <4F7C1DA6-043D-4908-85DC-5EAC0456D896 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > On Aug 17, 2014, at 3:02 AM, Peter Coghlan <cctech at beyondthepale.ie> > wrote: > > > > > >> > >> I don't like the UPS Store they are spotty. > > I will never use nor accept UPS shipping again. This customs brokerage > scam they run is well known, and has been documented. Even using my own > brokerage firm has failed. Despite full info on the brokerage existing in > the shipping documentation, UPS insists on telephone voice confirmation, or > they charge for brokerage. A ridiculous amount. > > Even after that, after voice confirmation, UPS _twice_ attempted to > collect silly brokerage fees from me. I refused, the agent left the > packages here as I was about to call UPS and bitch, and then the assholes > actually sent the amounts to a collection agency! > > I explained to the CA that I had already paid the brokerage via another > agent, and that their client was committing criminal fraud; I then welcomed > a lawsuit. > > I have not heard a word since. > > It may be that UPS is OK for domestic shipping, but their international > service is a serious scam. > > And if UPS is listening: yes, you are criminals and scam artists. Come > and get me if you dare, truth is always a positive defense against libel > and slander. > > Ah yes, Useless Partial Service. All the other carriers deliver to my lab at the university without a problem. UPS insists on either delivering to the school's main office - on main campus, 3/4 mile away - or not delivering at all, sometimes for days. Yeah, 3/4 mile isn't far - unless the package is a case of disk drives. Is it a Coke/Pepsi-style thing, where the carriers some how lock in their customers? I've asked vendors from whom I buy routinely to use FedEx or even USPS instead of UPS, and some say they won't/can't. I tell them I won't/can't put up with UPS' sad excuse for service, so expect less business from me. (Sometimes you just don't have a choice.) Why do you think the trucks are BROWN? <holding nose> -- Ian -- Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS Ph.D. Candidate The Information School University of Washington Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.

12 years

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VCFMW/ECCC Rooms- GF and I have space available

by slandon110＠gmail.com

My gf and I were only able to book a double queen room, So there is space available if someone needs a room. Just split the cost of it with us, 75 dollars for 2 nights.

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VAX 4000-100A motherboard, CPU and firmware

by shadoooo＠gmail.com

Hello, I have a VAX 4000-100A (54-21797-01) that gives P-cache errors. I would try to understand if the problem can be fixed somehow, or if the CPU / motherboard needs to be replaced. Anybody has NVAX CPU datasheets, including pinout to check if there's something wrong with basics like power supply, cache invalidate signals, etc? Thanks Andrea

12 years

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standard 6502 syntax?

by a.phillip.garcia＠gmail.com

Was there more or less a standard or reference 6502 assembly language (e.g. >from MOS) with regard to syntax and pseudo ops? With the cpu being used in so many different computers, and so many vendors writing their own assemblers for each platform, did the assemblers tend to resemble each other (besides the instruction set), or did everyone tend to do their own thing?

12 years

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Disk for HP 9825B

by hp-fix＠xs4all.nl

Opening the rom cartridge is a little tricky it's holding together through four rivets. You need to heat them before they can be removed, there is a big change you will damage the housing. But with some glue logic it should be possible to read the rom with a programmer. And I know at least three 98228A ROM's, one in Australia one in the UK(London area) and one in the Netherlands ;) -Rik -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: "Brian L. Stuart" <blstuart at bellsouth.net> Verzonden: ?16-?8-?2014 18:31 Aan: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Onderwerp: Re: Disk for HP 9825B > I and others have been looking for a > 98228A ROM for years, without luck.? If you do manage > to find one, please consider making it available to have the > contents of the ROM read out so we can build new ROM > modules!? I'd love to use my 9885M with my 9825T.? What would be involved with imaging a module? I've never cracked on open before, or is there a way to read its contents from the 9825 itself? BLS

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if it seems too good to be true...

by a.phillip.garcia＠gmail.com

I've seen paperweights that contain replicas of the first transistor to commemorate its invention. I'm guessing that's the sort of thing this is? Anyone seen one of these before and knows for sure? Item: Univac I Computer Serial # 001 Plaque 1951 US Dept of Commerce Bureau of Census <http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=191287398219&alt=web> URL: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=191287398219&alt=web Alt URL: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Univac-Computer-Serial-001-Plaque-1951-US-Dept-Comm… (Sent from eBay Mobile for Android)

12 years

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XT-CF-Lite boards

by terry＠webweavers.co.nz

Pretty nifty devices. I recently had a play... http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/blog/2014-08-16-xtcf-lite.htm

12 years

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Open source Nova 3 assembler

by shadoooo＠gmail.com

Hello Mark, well I suppose it would be very useful for this kind of operations. And as the whole read operation would be in the control of the PC, you could retrieve the whole disk, or a part, or a single sector.. whatever you want. The first step is to debug it and let it work with SIMH. Then I will try it with my 8" double floppy unit. At this time, adding support for any other drive would be a matter of knowing the peripheral control registers and producing a set of scripts from these informations. I will keep you informed about it. Thanks Andrea

12 years

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VAX 4000-100A motherboard, CPU and firmware

by andrea.pastega＠gmail.com

Hello, I have a VAX 4000-100A (54-21797-01) that gives P-cache errors. I would try to understand if the problem can be fixed somehow, or if the CPU / motherboard needs to be replaced. Anybody has NVAX CPU datasheets, including pinout to check if there's something wrong with basics like power supply, cache invalidate signals, etc? Thanks Andrea

12 years

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An 8 Inch Disk Lathe

by nf6x＠nf6x.net

I have a Tandon TM-848E 8" floppy drive which appears to have become a disk lathe. Or perhaps just an effective disk eraser. It's one half of an external dual 8" drive unit that I picked up off eBay several months ago. I've cleaned the heads, and I can't see any sharp spots or debris with my head-mounted magnifying lenses, but it continues to scrape rings in the oxide of a disk on both sides. I haven't tried removing the heads to put them under my microscope since that would destroy the alignment. I've only tested it with the pair of disks that came in the drive so far. It's possible that they are bad disks with soft oxide, but I haven't seen the same scraping problem so far in the other drive of the pair. So, that one drive appears to be a disk lathe now. I haven't felt up to risking a potentially good disk in the bad one. Have any of y'all seen this kind of problem before? Is it likely to be repairable, even if that involves removing the heads and then realigning the drive when I reinstall them? Or is it most likely that the drive is fine and I've just been putting bad disks in it? I don't have any alignment diskettes yet, but I may get some one of these days. For the time being, I'm assuming that I'll just use the drive as a source of parts for other TM-848-series drives in my collection, like one that I have with a broken latch handle. The other drive plus the enclosure is earmarked for use with my KryoFlux. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net> http://www.nf6x.net/

12 years

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Disk for HP 9825B

by cruff＠ruffspot.net

I and others have been looking for a 98228A ROM for years, without luck. If you do manage to find one, please consider making it available to have the contents of the ROM read out so we can build new ROM modules! I'd love to use my 9885M with my 9825T. Thanks.

12 years

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Apple keyboards, need a good home

by sales＠elecplus.com

AppleDesign, M2980, qty 16 Keyboard II, M0487, qty 1 Extended II, M3501, qty 9 (some are MUCH heavier than others, and one has a complete hard shell cover) Also have new in pkg Apple cables Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-792-3400 phone 830-792-3404 fax sales at elecplus.com AOL IM elcpls

12 years

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PDP-8 and PIP

by marco＠familie-rauhut.eu

Hello, i trie to copy a binary file with 6kw length from my Linux PC to a TU56 DECTape. The TU56 is connected via TD8E to the PDP-8. I work with 9k6. Every time i try this, the transmission stops. What id on PDP-8: .R PIP *DTA1:CHESS.BN<PTR:/B ^ then on Linux i send plain Chess file. Do i need hardware flow controll on RS232? Any other helpfull hints? Marco

12 years

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Panasonic Sr. Partner

by kurt＠hamm.me

I am trying to restore one to original functionality, but have never found or seen the original software provided with this computer. If anyone has a list or the images, please let me know. Thanks! Kurt > On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:00 PM, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > > Send cctalk mailing list submissions to > cctalk at classiccmp.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cctalk-request at classiccmp.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cctalk-owner at classiccmp.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of cctalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: CRT Question - Old Calculator (Peter Corlett) > 2. Displaywriter 8" filesystem? (David Schmidt) > 3. Re: old Sun metal kbd is GONE! (Jerry Kemp) > 4. Re: Disk for HP 9825B (Craig Ruff) > 5. Re: PDP-8 and PIP (Rick Murphy) > 6. Re: Displaywriter 8" filesystem? (Nigel Williams) > 7. Re: PDP-8 and PIP (Michael Thompson) > 8. Timex Sinclair (Electronics Plus) > 9. standard 6502 syntax? (A. P. Garcia) > 10. Re: Timex Sinclair (Alexandre Souza) > 11. Re: Sun motherboard fuses (Glen Slick) > 12. VT240 Monitor Error - 9 (Robert Jarratt) > 13. Re: standard 6502 syntax? (Sean Caron) > 14. Re: standard 6502 syntax? (Dave Caroline) > 15. Re: CompuServe Magazine Scans (Sean Caron) > 16. Re: standard 6502 syntax? (Sean Caron) > 17. Re: standard 6502 syntax? (A. P. Garcia) > 18. Re: VT240 Monitor Error - 9 (Mike Cesari) > 19. Re: Disk for HP 9825B (Brian L. Stuart) > 20. Re: standard 6502 syntax? (Ernest G. Allen) > 21. Re: Displaywriter 8" filesystem? (Chuck Guzis) > 22. Punched Cards (Dave G4UGM) > 23. RE: VT240 Monitor Error - 9 (Robert Jarratt) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:02:46 +0100 > From: Peter Corlett <abuse at cabal.org.uk> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: CRT Question - Old Calculator > Message-ID: <20140816100246.GB25717 at mooli.org.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 02:43:50PM -0600, Eric Smith wrote: >> [...] >> I've also never gotten poor-quality cables with any of my AV gear, but then, >> I only have purchased fairly reputable brands (e.g., Denon, Epson, Kenwood, >> Marantz, Onkyo, Panasonic, Philips, Pioneer, Sony, Tascam/Teac). I don't >> doubt that crappy (or no-name) brands might provide crappy cables, if they >> bothered to provide any at all. > > Back in 2000, I bought a Pioneer amplifier and DVD player for roughly ?300 > each, so not exactly low-end kit. There were still crappy leads in the box. > > These things are really just starter cables to test the device works and which > are expected to be replaced almost immediately, much like the dribble of ink or > dusting of toner that comes with a new printer. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:24:20 -0400 > From: David Schmidt <david at attglobal.net> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only <cctech at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Displaywriter 8" filesystem? > Message-ID: <53EE4244.3040702 at attglobal.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I've imaged a little stack of Displaywriter 8" disks and am starting in > on filesystem organization. With an EBCDIC filter I can see the data > plain as day. I've also got experience stitching together the > DisplayWriter files that come from the DOS-based system, so if I could > get the file allocation scheme figured out and lift off whole files from > these disk images, I bet the same conversion code would work on the > resulting data. > > I've browsed the manuals on Bitsavers, but of course IBM never intended > their users to actually look at the bytes on the disk. So none of the > information was geared towards revealing the file allocation secrets. > > Is there any reference material out there to help me decode (or find) > the file allocation structures? > > - David > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:34:40 -0500 > From: Jerry Kemp <other at oryx.cc> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only <cctech at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: old Sun metal kbd is GONE! > Message-ID: <53EE44B0.90502 at oryx.cc> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > >> On 08/13/14 04:48 PM, Jason T wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Electronics Plus <sales at elecplus.com> wrote: >>>> The old Sun kbd has been claimed. >>> >>> I didn't think that would take long. I don't have any Sun gear that >>> old or I would have spoken up (my oldest is a 3/50 for which I still >>> need to make a DA15-DIN8 adapter or find a sun3 kb). >> >> That model # doesn't turn up anywhere. Which model keyboard was this? >> That part # says Sun-2 era or earlier to me. > > > Who ever got the 540-1006-03 metal Sun keyboard, I know I would sure appreciate > it if you could post a few pictures. > > My Yahoo-fu may be off today also, but I am unable to find any images of it either. > > Jerry > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:48:15 -0600 > From: Craig Ruff <cruff at ruffspot.net> > To: cctech at classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Disk for HP 9825B > Message-ID: <26F0B123-1E37-409D-9861-AD68862523AC at ruffspot.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I and others have been looking for a 98228A ROM for years, without luck. If you do manage to find one, please consider making it available to have the contents of the ROM read out so we can build new ROM modules! I'd love to use my 9885M with my 9825T. Thanks. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:44:22 -0400 > From: Rick Murphy <rick at rickmurphy.net> > To: Marco Rauhut <marco at familie-rauhut.eu>, General Discussion: > Subject: Re: PDP-8 and PIP > Message-ID: <201408160044.s7G0iUwK029252 at rickmurphy.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > At 12:37 PM 8/15/2014, Marco Rauhut wrote: >> Hello, >> >> i trie to copy a binary file with 6kw length from my Linux PC to a >> TU56 DECTape. The TU56 is connected via TD8E to the PDP-8. I work with >> 9k6. Every time i try this, the transmission stops. >> >> What id on PDP-8: >> >> .R PIP >> *DTA1:CHESS.BN<PTR:/B >> ^ >> >> then on Linux i send plain Chess file. >> >> Do i need hardware flow controll on RS232? Any other helpfull hints? > > You need some form of flow control, but getting to PDP-8 to signal > ready is going to be interesting. What's the "PTR:" device in this > case, the console input? If so, you may be able to use reader run as a > CTS indicator somehow. > > What's happening here is that PIP fills a buffer, then initiates a > write via the TD8E onto the tape. Until the TD8E driver gets done > positioning and writing, PIP is no longer in control and there's > nothing reading from the input device. You've got to figure out how to > suspend feeding data until the device handler returns and allowing PIP > to run. It doesn't matter what baud rate you use given that it can take > minutes for a tape I/O to complete. You will lose characters. > > I've managed to make serial upload work with "echo control": send a > character, wait until it's echoed before you send another. Agonizingly > slow. > > I'd suggest looking into the Kermit-12 docs and uploadable files. > There's a way to bootstrap yourself over a serial device to a working > Kermit. > -Rick > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 21:50:44 +1000 > From: Nigel Williams <nw at retrocomputingtasmania.com> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Displaywriter 8" filesystem? > Message-ID: > <CACCFpdwhwdSQ+9-RgDAqcrjTBmT3DnxMqstx3BQhHBWkvQ9M4g at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >> On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 3:24 AM, David Schmidt <david at attglobal.net> wrote: >> I've imaged a little stack of Displaywriter 8" disks and am starting in on >> filesystem organization. > > Would you able to list the diskettes please so I can add to the public > catalogue of known Displaywriter software. > >> Is there any reference material out there to help me decode (or find) the >> file allocation structures? > > The "physical" layout is documented here: > > http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/floppy/GA21-9182-5_Diskette_Gene… > > and there are other versions of the document in the same directory. > The DW logical structure more or less follows the physical layout, > however there are new filetypes and extensions. I was planning to > return to building a decoder once I had additional images to work with > so it would be easier to triangulate the DW specifics. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:44:39 -0400 > From: Michael Thompson <michael.99.thompson at gmail.com> > To: cctech <cctech at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: PDP-8 and PIP > Message-ID: > <CAH1BU=-DYUdv+x+WA_=fNxrEU7Xdv6+KGerEbH7iW5RHggjKdQ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >> >> From: Marco Rauhut <marco at familie-rauhut.eu> >> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 18:37:57 +0200 >> Hello, >> >> i trie to copy a binary file with 6kw length from my Linux PC to a TU56 >> DECTape. The TU56 is connected via TD8E to the PDP-8. I work with 9k6. >> Every time i try this, the transmission stops. >> >> What id on PDP-8: >> >> .R PIP >> *DTA1:CHESS.BN<PTR:/B >> ^ >> >> then on Linux i send plain Chess file. >> >> Do i need hardware flow controll on RS232? Any other helpfull hints? >> >> Marco > > When we tried something similar on an 8/I, and it also failed. It worked OK > after we connected the reader relay logic on the console to RTS/CTS on the > PC and enabled flow control. > > You could make an image of the DECtape using SIMH and then use David > Gesswein's resttd8e. One part of the program runs on the PDP-8, and one > part runs on the PC. No hardware flow control is needed. > ftp://ftp.pdp8online.com/software/dumprest > > -- > Michael Thompson > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:12:22 -0500 > From: "Electronics Plus" <sales at elecplus.com> > To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Timex Sinclair > Message-ID: <002001cfb953$b74c0370$25e40a50$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Who asked for the Timex Sinclair computer and RAM module? > > > > Cindy Croxton > > Electronics Plus > > 1613 Water Street > > Kerrville, TX 78028 > > 830-792-3400 phone > > 830-792-3404 fax > > sales at elecplus.com > > AOL IM elcpls > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:45:44 -0500 > From: "A. P. Garcia" <a.phillip.garcia at gmail.com> > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Subject: standard 6502 syntax? > Message-ID: > <CAFCBnZsMZVR9jf3+NT0++tbrYOY-y5zmXU6ELy+=u-pNvqXRsQ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Was there more or less a standard or reference 6502 assembly language (e.g. > from MOS) with regard to syntax and pseudo ops? With the cpu being used in > so many different computers, and so many vendors writing their own > assemblers for each platform, did the assemblers tend to resemble each > other (besides the instruction set), or did everyone tend to do their own > thing? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:00:51 -0300 > From: Alexandre Souza <alexandre.tabajara at gmail.com> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Timex Sinclair > Message-ID: > <CANdZFKTBE3-_-CQErBmSHoRnF86BGuzq3YbaH8x5ZZaVMqYubA at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Me! > > enviado do meu telemovel > Em 16/08/2014 10:16, "Electronics Plus" <sales at elecplus.com> escreveu: > >> Who asked for the Timex Sinclair computer and RAM module? >> >> >> >> Cindy Croxton >> >> Electronics Plus >> >> 1613 Water Street >> >> Kerrville, TX 78028 >> >> 830-792-3400 phone >> >> 830-792-3404 fax >> >> sales at elecplus.com >> >> AOL IM elcpls > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 07:07:39 -0700 > From: Glen Slick <glen.slick at gmail.com> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Sun motherboard fuses > Message-ID: > <CAM2UOwL_cTvgTUt-0Z_Nm67oLPma9AfkTtq1u3abST-Mc7DSMQ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >> On Aug 16, 2014 12:00 AM, "Kurt Nowak" <knowak at alumni.calpoly.edu> wrote: >> >> Actually my eyes are bad...its 125V not 12.5V! (2A) :) Mouser has 'em: >> Mouser P/N 576-0274002.V They aren't cheap and they're back ordered. > > Does it have to be the 274 instead of the 273 version? Looks like the 274 > is the mil spec version and the 273 is the commercial version. > > The 0273002.H is half the price at Mouser. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 15:31:36 +0100 > From: "Robert Jarratt" <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: VT240 Monitor Error - 9 > Message-ID: <008801cfb95e$c8e7e9e0$5ab7bda0$(a)ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I just got a VT240 with a VR201 monitor. When I switch it on it displays > "??240 Monitor Error - 9" (although the question marks are reversed). > > > > The terminal works otherwise. It displays the setup menus, and it works when > connected to one of my VAXen. > > > > I have looked in the docs I have, but none have troubleshooting information, > and I can't find anything online. > > > > Any idea what this error means? > > > > Incidentally, I used to use a software package called UNIRAS to do graphics > on VAXen, does anyone know if it is still possible to find this software? > Anyone got anything to exercise the VT240's graphical capabilities? I > believe Datatrieve has something, but I don't want to install that just to > test the VT240. > > > > Regards > > > > Rob > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 10:44:12 -0400 > From: Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org>, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> > Subject: Re: standard 6502 syntax? > Message-ID: > <CAA43vkX1MPRHYNQUktV3Qux1kh4XG_tiy9o5rvnxrYSBc4=QvA at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi A.P, > > The data sheets are out there; I've seen about three different datasheets > for the 6502 floating around, one is the original MOS preliminary, there's > a Synertek one, and there's the brand new one from WDC. I'm sure you could > find more if you hunted around. > > It's all the same op-codes and addressing modes; except in the currently > shipping 65C02(S) they added a few instructions and filled out a few pins > that aren't present in the earlier revs. So if you are working with an > older 6502, use the older datasheet; if you just went out and got a brand > new one from WDC, use the new data sheet. > > Other than that, any old 6502 data sheet is about as definitive as it gets > :) > > If you are talking about assembler macros and stuff like that, I'm sure > there are as many variants as there were assemblers, little to no > standardization there from my experience, LOL. But regardless of the > computer, it's the same 6502 and same op-codes underneath. > > I'm in the middle of doing a little 6502 SBC right now so I've been poring > through these publications quite a bit over the course of the last few > weeks ;) > > Another neat reference is 'The 6800 Processor' by Jack Quinn, I know it's > not 6502-specific but the two CPUs were so similar, there's a lot of > relevance... nice book discussing the programming model on these CPUs > including a very thorough treatment on hand-assembly which I found to be > quite educational. > > Best, > > Sean > > > > On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 9:45 AM, A. P. Garcia <a.phillip.garcia at gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Was there more or less a standard or reference 6502 assembly language (e.g. >> from MOS) with regard to syntax and pseudo ops? With the cpu being used in >> so many different computers, and so many vendors writing their own >> assemblers for each platform, did the assemblers tend to resemble each >> other (besides the instruction set), or did everyone tend to do their own >> thing? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:01:26 +0100 > From: Dave Caroline <dave.thearchivist at gmail.com> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: standard 6502 syntax? > Message-ID: > <CALfYgtk7LJPCiAKHxRp-WsU-=LuxGdvM0MjzFBLdP-x_LBVBSQ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > It is electrically different to the 6800 not to confuse the two chips, > different clock etc > There was a Rockwell version too > > Dave Caroline > >> On 16/08/2014, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> wrote: >> Hi A.P, >> >> The data sheets are out there; I've seen about three different datasheets >> for the 6502 floating around, one is the original MOS preliminary, there's >> a Synertek one, and there's the brand new one from WDC. I'm sure you could >> find more if you hunted around. >> >> It's all the same op-codes and addressing modes; except in the currently >> shipping 65C02(S) they added a few instructions and filled out a few pins >> that aren't present in the earlier revs. So if you are working with an >> older 6502, use the older datasheet; if you just went out and got a brand >> new one from WDC, use the new data sheet. >> >> Other than that, any old 6502 data sheet is about as definitive as it gets >> :) >> >> If you are talking about assembler macros and stuff like that, I'm sure >> there are as many variants as there were assemblers, little to no >> standardization there from my experience, LOL. But regardless of the >> computer, it's the same 6502 and same op-codes underneath. >> >> I'm in the middle of doing a little 6502 SBC right now so I've been poring >> through these publications quite a bit over the course of the last few >> weeks ;) >> >> Another neat reference is 'The 6800 Processor' by Jack Quinn, I know it's >> not 6502-specific but the two CPUs were so similar, there's a lot of >> relevance... nice book discussing the programming model on these CPUs >> including a very thorough treatment on hand-assembly which I found to be >> quite educational. >> >> Best, >> >> Sean >> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 9:45 AM, A. P. Garcia <a.phillip.garcia at gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Was there more or less a standard or reference 6502 assembly language >>> (e.g. >>> from MOS) with regard to syntax and pseudo ops? With the cpu being used >>> in >>> so many different computers, and so many vendors writing their own >>> assemblers for each platform, did the assemblers tend to resemble each >>> other (besides the instruction set), or did everyone tend to do their own >>> thing? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:14:29 -0400 > From: Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org>, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> > Subject: Re: CompuServe Magazine Scans > Message-ID: > <CAA43vkWT9FSPhky2PH4SONL_93mO+78zH0v3AfrBX5vu1nq7_g at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Is there a lot of interest in this sort of stuff? I have a bunch of old > MacUser and Macworld magazines (various issues, 1985 thru 1996 or so) > including a mint October 1985 MacUser issue 1, a bunch of old LisaTalk > Report magazines, and some Sun Remarketing catalogs. I would have more but > this is all I managed to save from my Dad's house-cleaning (AFAIK). Might > still be able to scrape up a few more next time I visit. Hope to find a few > more old MacUser/Macworld mags and a stack of mid-1990s Byte magazines I > collected as a young'un. > > I suppose I could add some of these to my to-scan pile... we'll see what > the masses think. I enjoy thumbing through them. > > Best, > > Sean > > > >> On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I am very pleased to announce, and be done with, the scanning of a >> small stack of CompuServe Magazine, the magazine sent to subscribers >> of the online service of the same name. There are 19 issues in all, >> various months from 1990, 91 and 92. They're full of ads for "The >> Mall," CompuServe's online shopping service, with a good sampling of >> the products of the times. The articles cover a wide range of topics >> (and how they're accessible on their service) as well as predictions >> of CompuServe's existence for decades to come. Not much mention of >> this "Internet" thing... >> >> Due to the size of the files and the ease of reading documents in >> their browser, I uploaded the scans to archive.org instead of our >> usual docs site. All of the issues should be accessible with this >> search: >> >> https://archive.org/search.php?query=compuserve%20magazine >> >> Enjoy! >> >> - jht >> >> -- >> silent700.blogspot.com >> Retrocomputing and collecting in the Chicago area: >> http://chiclassiccomp.org > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:20:24 -0400 > From: Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org>, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> > Subject: Re: standard 6502 syntax? > Message-ID: > <CAA43vkU+vf8ta_XTRwb8115OFDU61HPwa=LcHaqOEfJX8r=uhg at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Oh, yes, sorry, I hope I wasn't unclear in my previous message; the only > similarity between 6800 and 6502 is the general machine architecture and > programming modality (they also share many assembly mnemonics). The 6800 > and 6502 are not op-code or pin compatible. > > I just referenced the Quinn text because I think it's pretty good for the > high-level concepts and I'm not aware of any similar publication dedicated > to the 6502 specifically. > > Best, > > Sean > > > On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Dave Caroline <dave.thearchivist at gmail.com >> wrote: > >> It is electrically different to the 6800 not to confuse the two chips, >> different clock etc >> There was a Rockwell version too >> >> Dave Caroline >> >>> On 16/08/2014, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> wrote: >>> Hi A.P, >>> >>> The data sheets are out there; I've seen about three different datasheets >>> for the 6502 floating around, one is the original MOS preliminary, >> there's >>> a Synertek one, and there's the brand new one from WDC. I'm sure you >> could >>> find more if you hunted around. >>> >>> It's all the same op-codes and addressing modes; except in the currently >>> shipping 65C02(S) they added a few instructions and filled out a few pins >>> that aren't present in the earlier revs. So if you are working with an >>> older 6502, use the older datasheet; if you just went out and got a brand >>> new one from WDC, use the new data sheet. >>> >>> Other than that, any old 6502 data sheet is about as definitive as it >> gets >>> :) >>> >>> If you are talking about assembler macros and stuff like that, I'm sure >>> there are as many variants as there were assemblers, little to no >>> standardization there from my experience, LOL. But regardless of the >>> computer, it's the same 6502 and same op-codes underneath. >>> >>> I'm in the middle of doing a little 6502 SBC right now so I've been >> poring >>> through these publications quite a bit over the course of the last few >>> weeks ;) >>> >>> Another neat reference is 'The 6800 Processor' by Jack Quinn, I know it's >>> not 6502-specific but the two CPUs were so similar, there's a lot of >>> relevance... nice book discussing the programming model on these CPUs >>> including a very thorough treatment on hand-assembly which I found to be >>> quite educational. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Sean >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 9:45 AM, A. P. Garcia < >> a.phillip.garcia at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Was there more or less a standard or reference 6502 assembly language >>>> (e.g. >>>> from MOS) with regard to syntax and pseudo ops? With the cpu being used >>>> in >>>> so many different computers, and so many vendors writing their own >>>> assemblers for each platform, did the assemblers tend to resemble each >>>> other (besides the instruction set), or did everyone tend to do their >> own >>>> thing? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 10:31:18 -0500 > From: "A. P. Garcia" <a.phillip.garcia at gmail.com> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: standard 6502 syntax? > Message-ID: > <CAFCBnZukAFOvmqi=hM+spOPr8u4io-Z8PYkyDg5CvWtr_kJqKA at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> wrote: > > <snip> >> If you are talking about assembler macros and stuff like that, I'm sure >> there are as many variants as there were assemblers, little to no >> standardization there from my experience, LOL. But regardless of the >> computer, it's the same 6502 and same op-codes underneath. > > Yes, that's what I was getting at. Given the lack of standardization, > my next set of questions would be: Was there a specific 6502 assembler > that you particularly enjoyed working with? Was there a dominant one > on the market--i.e. is there a particular assembler for which a > majority of available code was written for? Probably the most famous > bit of 6502 asm out there is the Apple II Prince of Persia > [https://github.com/jmechner/Prince-of-Persia-Apple-II]. Which > assembler(s) can process this source as-is? > > >> I'm in the middle of doing a little 6502 SBC right now so I've been poring >> through these publications quite a bit over the course of the last few >> weeks ;) >> >> Another neat reference is 'The 6800 Processor' by Jack Quinn, I know it's >> not 6502-specific but the two CPUs were so similar, there's a lot of >> relevance... nice book discussing the programming model on these CPUs >> including a very thorough treatment on hand-assembly which I found to be >> quite educational. > > Nice. Thanks for the recommendation. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 10:06:02 -0600 > From: Mike Cesari <mcesari at comcast.net> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: VT240 Monitor Error - 9 > Message-ID: <4E13E18A-EECF-408B-96A5-EB14B0AAA16D at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Here's the Manx reference: > > http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/1,2969 > > On page 12 it lists 3 possibilities: > > 1. Plug in VR201 (LED indicator only) > 2. Reverse monitor cable. > 3. replace monitor cable. > > Good luck, > > Mike > >> On Aug 16, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Robert Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >> I just got a VT240 with a VR201 monitor. When I switch it on it displays >> "??240 Monitor Error - 9" (although the question marks are reversed). >> >> >> >> The terminal works otherwise. It displays the setup menus, and it works when >> connected to one of my VAXen. >> >> >> >> I have looked in the docs I have, but none have troubleshooting information, >> and I can't find anything online. >> >> >> >> Any idea what this error means? >> >> >> >> Incidentally, I used to use a software package called UNIRAS to do graphics >> on VAXen, does anyone know if it is still possible to find this software? >> Anyone got anything to exercise the VT240's graphical capabilities? I >> believe Datatrieve has something, but I don't want to install that just to >> test the VT240. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Rob > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:12:38 -0700 > From: "Brian L. Stuart" <blstuart at bellsouth.net> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Disk for HP 9825B > Message-ID: > <1408205558.88109.YahooMailBasic at web184706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > >> I and others have been looking for a >> 98228A ROM for years, without luck.? If you do manage >> to find one, please consider making it available to have the >> contents of the ROM read out so we can build new ROM >> modules!? I'd love to use my 9885M with my 9825T.? > > What would be involved with imaging a module? I've > never cracked on open before, or is there a way to read > its contents from the 9825 itself? > > BLS > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:10:51 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Ernest G. Allen" <eallen at owt.com> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Cc: eallen at owt.com > Subject: Re: standard 6502 syntax? > Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.00.1408160908040.23281 at oneworld.owt.com> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > >> On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, A. P. Garcia wrote: >> >> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:31:18 >> From: A. P. Garcia <a.phillip.garcia at gmail.com> >> Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" >> <cctalk at classiccmp.org> >> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> >> Subject: Re: standard 6502 syntax? >> >> On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> wrote: >> >> <snip> >>> If you are talking about assembler macros and stuff like that, I'm sure >>> there are as many variants as there were assemblers, little to no >>> standardization there from my experience, LOL. But regardless of the >>> computer, it's the same 6502 and same op-codes underneath. >> >> Yes, that's what I was getting at. Given the lack of standardization, >> my next set of questions would be: Was there a specific 6502 assembler >> that you particularly enjoyed working with? Was there a dominant one >> on the market--i.e. is there a particular assembler for which a >> majority of available code was written for? Probably the most famous >> bit of 6502 asm out there is the Apple II Prince of Persia >> [https://github.com/jmechner/Prince-of-Persia-Apple-II]. Which >> assembler(s) can process this source as-is? >> >> >>> I'm in the middle of doing a little 6502 SBC right now so I've been poring >>> through these publications quite a bit over the course of the last few >>> weeks ;) >>> >>> Another neat reference is 'The 6800 Processor' by Jack Quinn, I know it's >>> not 6502-specific but the two CPUs were so similar, there's a lot of >>> relevance... nice book discussing the programming model on these CPUs >>> including a very thorough treatment on hand-assembly which I found to be >>> quite educational. >> >> Nice. Thanks for the recommendation. > > Thank you for the github link. > > I think that the assembler source for Prince of Persia was > written for the Merlin version 2.52 assemlber. See the line: > > * Merlin 2.52 --> RW18 "USR" interface routine. > > near the top of the file "04 Support/MakeDisk/USR18.S". > > --Ernest > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:37:46 -0700 > From: Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Displaywriter 8" filesystem? > Message-ID: <53EF88DA.6030402 at sydex.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > >> On 08/15/2014 10:24 AM, David Schmidt wrote: >> >> I've browsed the manuals on Bitsavers, but of course IBM never intended >> their users to actually look at the bytes on the disk. So none of the >> information was geared towards revealing the file allocation secrets. >> >> Is there any reference material out there to help me decode (or find) >> the file allocation structures? > > I did a DW to (of all things) HTML conversion utility some years back. I > recall that the filesystem (if it could be called that) was a bit odd. > The curious thing that I remember about the data was that all of the > special effects (bolding, underlining) were actual printer codes fro the > IBM daisywheel printer. > > If you're desperate, I can see if I can still find my work. I haven't > seen a DW floppy in perhaps a decade. > > --Chuck > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 17:41:22 +0100 > From: "Dave G4UGM" <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> > To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Punched Cards > Message-ID: <000201cfb970$eb46b8b0$c1d42a10$(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Folks, > > > > I seem to remember that some time ago it was mentioned on here that there > was a place in Germany that still sold punched cards? > > Any one in the UK? > > > > Dave > > G4UGM > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 23 > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 17:51:07 +0100 > From: "Robert Jarratt" <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> > To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: RE: VT240 Monitor Error - 9 > Message-ID: <009301cfb972$46870da0$d39528e0$(a)ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I missed the pocket manual, thanks for that. I have reversed the monitor > cable and it comes up with VT240 OK now. > > Thanks! > > Rob > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] >> On Behalf Of Mike Cesari >> Sent: 16 August 2014 17:06 >> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts >> Subject: Re: VT240 Monitor Error - 9 >> >> >> Here's the Manx reference: >> >> http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/1,2969 >> >> On page 12 it lists 3 possibilities: >> >> 1. Plug in VR201 (LED indicator only) >> 2. Reverse monitor cable. >> 3. replace monitor cable. >> >> Good luck, >> >> Mike >> >> On Aug 16, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Robert Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I just got a VT240 with a VR201 monitor. When I switch it on it >>> displays >>> "??240 Monitor Error - 9" (although the question marks are reversed). >>> >>> >>> >>> The terminal works otherwise. It displays the setup menus, and it >>> works when connected to one of my VAXen. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have looked in the docs I have, but none have troubleshooting >>> information, and I can't find anything online. >>> >>> >>> >>> Any idea what this error means? >>> >>> >>> >>> Incidentally, I used to use a software package called UNIRAS to do >>> graphics on VAXen, does anyone know if it is still possible to find this >> software? >>> Anyone got anything to exercise the VT240's graphical capabilities? I >>> believe Datatrieve has something, but I don't want to install that >>> just to test the VT240. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Rob > > > > > End of cctalk Digest, Vol 132, Issue 35 > ***************************************

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Shipping and Tracking via UPS

by ggs＠shiresoft.com

The IBM 3278 terminal that I've been waiting for is now officially lost. UPS even said so! What I found out is that when you track a package on UPS, most of the "scans" you see are logical scans. That is, where UPS *thinks* the package is. UPS doesn't actually know where a package is unless there are "physical" scans. At certain points in a package's travels, there will be occasional physical scans but they are not as often as UPS's tracking would imply. It turns out that with my 3278 terminal, there was not *one* physical scan. The folks at UPS said that is *very* unusual. It could mean that it's sitting where the shipper dropped it off (here's hoping) and never actually went anywhere. It's not like it's a small package (145# in a wooden crate). So it's not likely to have been misplaced. ;-) The other thing that I found out about UPS, is that they don't really want to talk to the receiver. They only want to talk to the shipper. Fortunately the shipper in this case has been really helpful and willing to deal with UPS on my behalf. So, anyone know where there's an IBM 3278/9 terminal available? ;-) TTFN - Guy

12 years

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Sun motherboard fuses

by knowak＠alumni.calpoly.edu

Does anyone know of a good source or have 2 or 3 of the little cylindrical 12.5V 2A plug type fuses commonly found on Sun hardware P/N 150-1174-01? I blew one on my IPC and it would be nice to have a couple spares too. -Kurt

12 years

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Punched Cards

by dave.g4ugm＠gmail.com

Folks, I seem to remember that some time ago it was mentioned on here that there was a place in Germany that still sold punched cards? Any one in the UK? Dave G4UGM

12 years

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Timex Sinclair

by sales＠elecplus.com

Who asked for the Timex Sinclair computer and RAM module? Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-792-3400 phone 830-792-3404 fax sales at elecplus.com AOL IM elcpls

12 years

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PDP-8 and PIP

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

> > From: Marco Rauhut <marco at familie-rauhut.eu> > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 18:37:57 +0200 > Hello, > > i trie to copy a binary file with 6kw length from my Linux PC to a TU56 > DECTape. The TU56 is connected via TD8E to the PDP-8. I work with 9k6. > Every time i try this, the transmission stops. > > What id on PDP-8: > > .R PIP > *DTA1:CHESS.BN<PTR:/B > ^ > > then on Linux i send plain Chess file. > > Do i need hardware flow controll on RS232? Any other helpfull hints? > > Marco > When we tried something similar on an 8/I, and it also failed. It worked OK after we connected the reader relay logic on the console to RTS/CTS on the PC and enabled flow control. You could make an image of the DECtape using SIMH and then use David Gesswein's resttd8e. One part of the program runs on the PDP-8, and one part runs on the PC. No hardware flow control is needed. ftp://ftp.pdp8online.com/software/dumprest -- Michael Thompson

12 years

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Disk for HP 9825B

by hp-fix＠xs4all.nl

I've a spare 98032A but without the right cable. If interested contact me off-list. -Rik -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: "Jason T" <silent700 at gmail.com> Verzonden: ?16-?8-?2014 01:23 Aan: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org> Onderwerp: Re: Disk for HP 9825B On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote: > IIRC the 98217 is for the 9885 drive only, whcih is conencted by the > 98032 parallel interface. As an aside, the communcations protocol for the > 9885 is not docuemtned in any maula that I've seen, I think it's possible > to deduce it from the publised routines in the HP9000/200 Pascal > technical manuals, but... Well this is slightly embarassing....I knew I had some sort of non-HPIB HP floppy drive downstairs. I just went to search for it and...it's a 9885. So, in theory, if I got the parallel interface (a few for $50 on ebay now) and the 98217, I'd have a complete system. That is, if the drive works and I found the (also rare) formatter tape. It would see it would be better to hold out for the HPIB-enabled 98228 ROM, or as Glen says above, maybe someone will clone it. Fortunately this is only a hobby and there are plenty of other projects to attack. This one can wait :) -j

12 years

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P112 kits available

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

I have 85 P112 boards pre-populated with surface-mount parts, but no parts bags. If I can pre-sell just seven kits, I can order enough bags to make forty kits. Eight more than that should be enough to fully fund this project for the rest of the boards I have on hand. This will probably be the last time I do a run of P112 kits, so get them while they last. P112 kits may be purchased from http://661.org/p112 by using the handy and secure Paypal purchase button. If you'd rather not use Paypal, email me at dave at 661.org and we'll work something out. Price is $190 for inside the US and $210 for outside the US. As before, Terry Gulczynski is available for assembly services and expansion boards. His page is linked >from mine. Kits should ship approximately two weeks after ordering to account for the fact I need to order the parts bags. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu

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Disk for HP 9825B

by silent700＠gmail.com

I have a lovely HP 9825B desktop "calc-puter," the "T" version which includes a number of ROMs that would have come on a cartridge in the earlier models. There are a number of ROM carts and interfaces on ebay for the 9825s, among them the "98217A Flexible Disk Drive" module and the 98034A HPIB interface. My question is: is the latter interface, along with the General and Extended I/O ROMs already built into the 9825B, sufficient to talk to HPIB floppy drives? Or do I need the 98217A, or some other ROM, to add the disk routines to HPL? The 98217A says it's specifically for the 9885M 8" disk drive. I don't know if it has other applications or not. I don't have a 9885M or the interface module that would be required. Thanks for any clues... -j

12 years

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Where to Get "Professional" Packing Done for Shipping a Vintage Computer?

by bobvines00＠gmail.com

Where do you guys & ladies recommend taking a minicomputer to be professionally packed for shipping? I have a Data General Eclipse S/130 that I need to ship about half way across the US, but I need to get it professionally packed to avoid shipping damage. I plan on shipping the front panel, the boards, and the chassis (with PSU in it) as separate packages. I'd like to find a place that can use the "foam in place" around the wrapped components in the inner box and/or around the inner box. There is no terminal/monitor. How do you recommend packing the minicomputer to minimize the chances of any damage during shipping? The computer is free, so all funds can go towards the professional packaging and shipping. Who do you recommend? If it matters, I'm in north central Florida. Thanks, Bob

12 years

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Gravis for mac - that dammed programmable box

by alexandre.tabajara＠gmail.com

Dear friends In my never ending quest for a joystick for my Apple computers, I got a Gravis joystick with a strange din connector on it. Now I know I need some "gravis programmable box sbrubbles sbrubbles something" to connect it to, and so to the computer Does anyone has any refferences about it? I can clone the box if I have at least the pinout of that connector. And of course, I'm open to offers of the original box Thanks, Alexandre (still dreaming with an original apple joystick, and an ANKO one) :oP

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Where to Get "Professional" Packing Done for Shipping a Vintage Computer?

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Bob, I had good luck with a Forward Air pallet last year. At Lowe?s, I bought cheap nylon straps with tensioner buckles and some bubble-wrap, and some stretch wrap. I brought a couple of old cardboard boxes to cut up into pieces to pad any contacting parts. I put all of the equipment on a pallet at the Forward Air depot (they were kind enough to let me work off in a corner for an hour or two). Here?s the process: 1) put straps under pallet (actually through, being sure to include the structural beams of the pallet) 2) pile big gear on pallet, in a vaguely pyramidal shape - cardboard ?padding? where they will be pulled together by straps or rest on one another 3) bubble-wrap small pieces and stretch-wrap them to big pieces 4) connect straps over top, more cardboard padding where each strap turns a corner 5) tighten straps until they are about middle ?A" when plucked 6) run laps with the stretch-wrap until the pile is coccooned to be certain no cables, etc. stick out or fall off. Ethan was the recipient, he should chime in for how well it survived. It looked OK when it left. *Some* day soon I need to do this again?. sigh. - Mark On Aug 15, 2014, at 3:27 AM, Bob wrote: > Where do you guys & ladies recommend taking a minicomputer to be > professionally packed for shipping? I have a Data General Eclipse > S/130 that I need to ship about half way across the US, but I need to > get it professionally packed to avoid shipping damage. I plan on > shipping the front panel, the boards, and the chassis (with PSU in it) > as separate packages. I'd like to find a place that can use the "foam > in place" around the wrapped components in the inner box and/or around > the inner box. There is no terminal/monitor. > > How do you recommend packing the minicomputer to minimize the chances > of any damage during shipping? The computer is free, so all funds can > go towards the professional packaging and shipping. Who do you > recommend? If it matters, I'm in north central Florida. > > > Thanks, > > Bob

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Looking for 11/05 front-panel microswitch

by derschjo＠gmail.com

A PDP-11/05 in need of some help arrived on my doorstep yesterday. Amongst its other problems (*) the power/panel lock microswitch has been broken beyond all repair and it's kind of an oddball thing -- anyone happen to have one going spare (or know what the equivalent might be?). Someone did a rather ugly kluge to work around it (it's just hotwired in an always-ON configuration with a really ugly jumper wire), and I'd like to get it operating normally again. It's marked as DEC P/N 12-10982 (REV. B). Thanks in advance, Josh (*) It's been dropped (or had something dropped on it), the frame is bent as a result, which I've mostly undone. The power supply tests out good (a small amount of ripple but within tolerances if the service manual is to be trusted) and it shows signs of life (Load Addr works about 50% of the time), however it's not doing much. The M7261 board has "BAD?" penciled in so someone else's been over this machine before. I sense a lot of debugging in my future.

12 years

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Commodore (Philips) 1084 Color Monitor shop notes

by drlegendre＠gmail.com

My best Commodore monitor, the 1084, went belly-up on me today. It's been showing sings of trouble for quite a while, but this time it finally failed over. Nothing worse than an intermittent.. Symptom was a little non-intuitive. The video would go out, randomly, and all at once - like flipping a light switch. But when it would return, it returned more slowly - it faded in, as if the CRT heater were warming-up. Now, if the heater were losing power, why wouldn't it fade +out+ as well? But I checked, and the heater was definitely off - no glow, no voltage at the heater pins 9 & 10. Anyway, it turns out that this is one of those sets that draws its heater supply from a second winding on the HV flyback transformer. After some inspection of the board, I found that one of the flyback's soldered mounting pins had cracked at the joint, causing an intermittent connection. This was the cause of both symptoms - a quick cut-out of the video when the HV disappeared, and the slower fade-in as the connection re-made and the heater warmup lagged the HV rise.

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Looking for 11/05 front-panel microswitch

by cube1＠charter.net

Try cvrmach at gmail.com. He has some 11/05 stuff he is likely willing to sell at reasonable prices. I did some diagnostic work on some 11/05 boards a couple of years ago. Suggest you refer to my name (Jay) in your message. Runs a machine shop - not a collector. Name is Clarance Raalte (not sure of spelling - on tablet right now) Josh Dersch <derschjo at gmail.com> wrote: >A PDP-11/05 in need of some help arrived on my doorstep yesterday. >Amongst its other problems (*) the power/panel lock microswitch has been >broken beyond all repair and it's kind of an oddball thing -- anyone >happen to have one going spare (or know what the equivalent might be?). >Someone did a rather ugly kluge to work around it (it's just hotwired in >an always-ON configuration with a really ugly jumper wire), and I'd like >to get it operating normally again. > >It's marked as DEC P/N 12-10982 (REV. B). > >Thanks in advance, >Josh > >(*) It's been dropped (or had something dropped on it), the frame is >bent as a result, which I've mostly undone. The power supply tests out >good (a small amount of ripple but within tolerances if the service >manual is to be trusted) and it shows signs of life (Load Addr works >about 50% of the time), however it's not doing much. The M7261 board >has "BAD?" penciled in so someone else's been over this machine before. >I sense a lot of debugging in my future.

12 years

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One of my Sun 5c has unusual keys...

by sales＠elecplus.com

Pics are here: https://plus.google.com/photos/106111250846948401252/albums/6047430172859922 513?banner=pwa Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-792-3400 phone 830-792-3404 fax sales at elecplus.com AOL IM elcpls

12 years

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Stardent 19" workstation monitor

by vcf＠siconic.com

I have a monitor for a Stardent workstation. It's a re-badge Sony, model number 130-0001-01. Free for pickup, or 1.2 * cost of shipping to recoup time and trouble if you want it shipped. Please respond soon if you are interested as it will be going off for scrap in a week if there are no takers. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

12 years

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Sun pizza boxes

by sales＠elecplus.com

The small Sun boxes in the picasa web pic are as follows: Sparc Station 2, qty 1 Sparc Station 5, qty 3 Sparc Station 10, qty 1 All have floppy drives, except one of the SS5s. All worked several years ago, but they get no video now. My Sun dealers tell me it is because the video battery went out, and needs to be replaced. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-792-3400 phone 830-792-3404 fax sales at elecplus.com AOL IM elcpls

12 years

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VT100 kbds, qty 4, somebody take them home?

by sales＠elecplus.com

They are each one different from the others. Pics are here : http://deskthority.net/vendors-f52/terminal-sun-dec-sgi-etc-t8577.html Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-792-3400 phone 830-792-3404 fax sales at elecplus.com AOL IM elcpls

12 years

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Available: IBM desktop "System/23 Datamaster"

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

What will someone give me for this beast? I have no room for it - it will be dismantled. Located in Orange County, CA 92656 Model 5322: Predates the "IBM PC" by 1 month Intel 8085 Weight 95 lbs Two built-in 8-inch floppy drives BASIC in ROM

12 years

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Sun keyboards and mice, somebody make offer?

by sales＠elecplus.com

Qty 1 540-1006-03, all metal, complete, looks rather old Qty 7 Type 4 Qty 4 Type 5 Qty 19 Type 5c Qty 6 Type 6 Mice Qty 3 Type 5 Qty 2 Compact 1 Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-792-3400 phone 830-792-3404 fax sales at elecplus.com AOL IM elcpls

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Available: IBM desktop "System/23 Datamaster"

by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message ----- Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:48:08 -0700 From: Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> >...I prefer the modern LED-indicated locks myself. Catches the eye more easily than a depressed key. I wonder if there are transparent-key keyboards where the background LED color changes with an active shift-lock. --Chuck -----Reply:----- Or those keyboards with the LED integrated into the key itself....

12 years

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Terminal emulator for TRS-80 Model 1?

by billdeg＠buzz1.com

> ... Terminal emulator for TRS-80 Model 1? I found two manuals, but I'd need to track down the actual software here, depends on what kind of Model 1 you're talking about, new or old (disk or cassette). A quick check revealed: Modem 80 (disk program requires 32K and disk) "Mostly BASIC - Interfacing / Scientific" which is a telephone dialer cassette program by Howard Berenbon. The Tandy modem must have come with something to dial the phone? I am sure I could find at least one or two more. It's on my short list to archive TRS 80 1 disks (III and 4 too) now that I have an imaging station and I have largely finished the 8" disks I have left. I have a lot more 5 1/4" software but it'd be worth the effort. Bug me if you want me to bump the comms utilities I have to the top of the list. Bill

12 years

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Paper Tape

by bpettitx＠comcast.net

When I needed some one inch paper tape, I watched Ebay. Found several boxes in just a week or two, reasonably priced. Was even able to get the yellow - lightly oiled and the heavier oiled black tape. Billy

12 years

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Universal Converter Box

by chrise＠pobox.com

I need one of these, http://xkcd.com/1406/ -- Chris Elmquist

12 years

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Way off topic..USPS

by useddec＠gmail.com

I have been buying my shipping supplies from U-LINE for years and have always been impressed with the service and pricing. When I can't get to the right size box I sometimes use free boxes from an area liquor store. I went to the post office last week to ship a few boxes to a list member and was told they could not ship any kind of booze box unless wrapped in a grocery bag or painted over. When I had my UPS account, or used fed-ex, they took them. They just worried about previous shipping info on the box. I tried another post office and the same thing happened. Has anyone else had this problem? Thanks, Paul

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HP 9000 series 300 firmware

by hp-fix＠xs4all.nl

Which versions do you need? I've some 300's -Rik -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: "Al Kossow" <aek at bitsavers.org> Verzonden: ?12-?8-?2014 18:15 Aan: "On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Onderwerp: HP 9000 series 300 firmware Has anyone dumped already dumped the boot proms from the various generations of 300 series CPU boards? I started going through my pile of boards, and I see that I probably have less than half of all of the versions that were made.

12 years

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HP 9000 series 300 firmware

by aek＠bitsavers.org

Has anyone dumped already dumped the boot proms from the various generations of 300 series CPU boards? I started going through my pile of boards, and I see that I probably have less than half of all of the versions that were made.

12 years

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AmigaMini Todd Goodman

by slandon110＠gmail.com

Todd doesnt understand that USPS does not consider floppy disks media mail anymore, There are 330lbs total of floppy disks, And 500lbs of documentation, he doesnt realize that it will cost hundreds of dollars for them to be shipped across the country, Yes he did pay for the disks and some shipping, but it wasnt enough to cover it. And i definitely am not going to pick up the tab to ship these things out of my house. Yes I want them gone, I have 330lbs of them sitting here. So if he wants to come get them when I am kid free, that is fine. As far as the eviction is concerned its none of anyone's concern but if Todd wanted to see the judgement all he would have had to do was ask. And I go to VCFMW every year, Its none of his concern about making hotel reservations, Im not the one paying for it, my gf is.

12 years

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Interesting cheap gadget: RS232 to TCP/IP convertor

by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message ----- Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:19:52 -0700 From: "Ian S. King" <isking at uw.edu> > I looked up RS232-to-Bluetooth and there are devices, but there a LOT more expensive. I'll just keep schlepping cables around the room, I guess, at least for now. -- Ian ----- Reply: ----- The bare TTL RS232<>BT devices start at < $5.00 e.g. eBay 200924726178 True RS-232 < $15: e.g. 400706121660 I've used both with no issues. For RS-232<>Ethernet I prefer a used Lantronix UDS-10 or equivalent; more professional configuration options/software than the current Chinese stuff. You used to be able to pick them up for around $20 if you kept your eyes open. e.g.: 131252594914 271574124592 Or maybe: 191248187972 No problem putting pretty well anything with a serial port up on the Internet; the Lantronix devices are pretty flexible but not all other devices handle handshaking properly and buffer overflow can be a problem. I've logged into a CP/M system in Australia with a Tandy M100 laptop in Toronto ;-) And then there are the RS232<>WiFi adapters... m

12 years

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Answers to questions abt the warehouse closeout

by sales＠elecplus.com

Shipping, yes to Canada and EU, will think about other areas, depends on restrictions. The Lisa, the IBM 3278 terminal, and the room full of Apple equip (with the orange shag carpet) are GONE! My MANY thanks to all of you for your well wishes for my husband. Right now he can not walk a block, or lift a gallon, but he keeps trying. Heart failure is a hard thing to watch! Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-792-3400 phone 830-792-3404 fax sales at elecplus.com AOL IM elcpls

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cctalk Digest, Vol 132, Issue 23

by isking＠uw.edu

On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 4:13 PM, <cctalk-request at classiccmp.org> wrote: > Send cctalk mailing list submissions to > cctalk at classiccmp.org > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 12:58:37 -0500 > From: "Electronics Plus" <sales at elecplus.com> > To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: warehouse closing > Message-ID: <01a001cfb58d$e029b680$a07d2380$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am closing my warehouse by the end of this month. My husband's health is > rapidly failing, and I want to spend what time he has left with him, not > with a bunch of old computers and parts! > > Cindy, I'm very sorry to hear of your family situation, and wish you the best. I think you're making the right choice, the only choice one can make as a human being. Thank you for all you've done for vintage computer preservation. -- Ian -- Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS Ph.D. Candidate The Information School University of Washington Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.

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cctalk Digest, Vol 132, Issue 23

by isking＠uw.edu

On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 4:13 PM, <cctalk-request at classiccmp.org> wrote: > Send cctalk mailing list submissions to > cctalk at classiccmp.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] > On Behalf Of David Brownlee > Sent: August-11-14 9:36 AM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Interesting cheap gadget: RS232 to TCP/IP convertor > > On 11 August 2014 16:05, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote: > > > On 8/11/14 7:33 AM, Liam Proven wrote: > > > >> Yes really. ?11, about $15 or so. > >> > >> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251594530679 > >> > >> http://www.tcp232.net/tcp-ip-to-serial-module > > > > Mmmm.. if I still had some scattered boxes with a need for serial console > http://www.tcp232.net/tcp-ip-to-serial-module/USR-RS232-to-ethernet-module.… > might be interesting... > > Now I'm just as likely to pick a (non godawful) USB/serial dongle and plug > into the back of a random nearby not-quite-so-legacy box :) > You know, this originally looked like a dream come true? until I realized that I'm either draping a CAT-5 cable across the room, or a serial cable. I have some 50' MMJ serial cables, and the adapter ends to plug them into things. True, I already have an Ethernet infrastructure in the room, but I can also hook up a terminal server where I have some machines that need it. I can't think of any scenarios where I want to be further than 50' from one of the machines, but for one - and my 11/73 and VAXen have Ethernet. I looked up RS232-to-Bluetooth and there are devices, but there a LOT more expensive. I'll just keep schlepping cables around the room, I guess, at least for now. -- Ian -- Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS Ph.D. Candidate The Information School University of Washington Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.

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Vtserver, pdp11/34, and saving images

by ak6dn＠mindspring.com

-----Original Message----- >From: Dennis Boone <drb at msu.edu> >Sent: Aug 8, 2014 7:27 AM >To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> >Subject: Re: Vtserver, pdp11/34, and saving images > > > At 9600b (max standard rate of a DL11-W) it is not fast. However, a > > DL11-W can be modded to support 115.2Kb fairly easily (new UART, remove > > one chip in baud divider and replace with a wire, and a new crystal > > oscillator). I have done this for my 11/34 and I can now boot XXDP in > > about 15 seconds (vs 3 min at 9600b). > >Don, > >I'm curious about the details here. Can the /34 actually keep up doing >PIO at this rate? Or are you using DMA somehow? Is this vtserver or >one of the TU58 things or something else? 115.2k isn't one of the >results of the retrocmp.com mod; is yours described anywhere? I am using a standard DL11-W for the TU-58 serial interface, but modified it to support a 115.2kb data rate. This means that for each incoming character the 11/34 has about 90usec or so to process it. More than enough time to read it from the DL11-W, store it in memory, manipulate some counters, etc. The XXDP TU58 driver can handle this, as it is not interrupt driven, it is polled. I haven't tried the RT-11 TU-58 driver at this rate, but it may have issues as I believe it is interrupt driven. It would be an interesting experiment. On the host side I am using my TU58EM program on a PC. It can easily handle the 115.2kb serial data rate. This is a standard 11/34A with MS11-L MOS memory array, no cache option. I have been using this configuration for a few weeks now and have seen no issues at all in loading and running XXDP diagnostics from this emulated TU58 device. My mod is not specifically described, but there is at least one web page out there that describes modding the DL11-W for higher baud rates. That page described the crystal and divider changes, but did not go as far as changing the UART to a newer version capable of 115.2Kb. Don

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DEC dot matrix printers

by sales＠elecplus.com

Awhile back there was a lot of discussion abt DEC LA75, LA310, etc. I do have some DEC dot matrix printers here, if they are still wanted, I will get a list together. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-792-3400 phone 830-792-3404 fax sales at elecplus.com AOL IM elcpls

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cctech Digest, Vol 132, Issue 19

by mtapley＠swri.edu

On Aug 10, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Fred wrote: > That is actually exactly what I need right now. > I just had prostatectomy, and can't walk or drive. So this is the > level of entertainment that makes it possible to get through the day. For once, the ?Grumpy Ol?? is perfectly warranted. Get well soon! I rejoice whenever I see your tag on a message - I know something good is coming. I hope to read a *lot* more of them. - Mark

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