19 Aug
2014
19 Aug
'14
2:47 a.m.
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 2:04 AM, Kurt M. Nowak <kurt.m.nowak at gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/13/2014 2:01 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
Don't have one of those or I'd use it. Did a quick google on the P/N...
http://www.upgradebay.com/Products/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=169290343
Um... $255?!? They are on the drugs.
Yes, I can make one. No I haven't made one. A list member is sending
me a real Sun3 kb this week.
Of course now that something is moving on this, I wonder if I have a
suitable monitor...
I know I have a working Viking Moniterm I (and the Amiga card to go
with it). Apparently, on this very list, it was mentioned 13 years
ago that the monitor has DIP switches for its timing settings
(1280x1024 @ 60hz was apparently common, and as used with the
A2024-compatible adapter, 1024x800 @ 60Hz or 1024x1024 @ 50Hz)
http://marc.info/?l=classiccmp&m=104957388722023&w=2
Anyone know if it'll do 1600x1100 @ 66Hz or 1152x900 @ 67 Hz? Even
if it can, would it require an ECL->TTL level converter for the video?
A quick google is not revealing tech docs for the Moniterm I (but
there's plenty of cautions out there that they fail often).
-ethan
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Electronics Plus <sales at elecplus.com>
wrote:
I use a Sun type 5 (not 5c) keyboard with the removable cable and use a sun
mini-DIN8M to DB15M, cable P/N 530-1478-02.
The old Sun kbd has been claimed.
I didn't think that would take long. I don't have any Sun gear that
old or I would have spoken up (my oldest is a 3/50 for which I still
need to make a DA15-DIN8 adapter or find a sun3 kb).
-ethan 
19 Aug
19 Aug
10:54 a.m.
On 8/18/14 11:47 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
I know I have a working Viking Moniterm I (and the
Amiga card to go
with it). Apparently, on this very list, it was mentioned 13 years
ago that the monitor has DIP switches for its timing settings
(1280x1024 @ 60hz was apparently common, and as used with the
A2024-compatible adapter, 1024x800 @ 60Hz or 1024x1024 @ 50Hz)
It does?
I had one at Apple, and it was fixed-frequency ECL input, very similar to the
design of the Sun monitor made by Moniterm.
Variable-scan monitors were quite uncommon before the NEC Multisync.
5:11 p.m.
On 8/18/14 11:47 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
I know I have a working Viking Moniterm I (and the
Amiga card to go
with it). Apparently, on this very list, it was mentioned 13 years
ago that the monitor has DIP switches for its timing settings
(1280x1024 @ 60hz was apparently common, and as used with the
A2024-compatible adapter, 1024x800 @ 60Hz or 1024x1024 @ 50Hz)
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
It does?
I had one at Apple, and it was fixed-frequency ECL input, very similar to
the design of the Sun monitor made by Moniterm.
Variable-scan monitors were quite uncommon before the NEC Multisync.
There might have been multiple different monitors sold as the Moniterm,
some fixed frequency and some selectable.
Before there were wide-range monitors like the NEC Multisync, there
were a fair number of monitors that could work at several specific scan
rates (with some tolerance), but not generally between those. IIRC the
first widely available ones would do CGA (NTSC-rate, 15.75 kHz/60 Hz)
or EGA (~22 kHz/60 Hz), and later ones added VGA (31.5 kHz) and
above. The good ones would just fail to sync if the hsync rate was between
supported rates; the cheap ones could actually be damaged.
Unfortunately many of the later Multisync (or equivalent from other brands)
did away with the ability to sync to lower than VGA rate. I'd like to obtain
an early Multisync that still could do NTSC rate.
1:51 p.m.
Wow...yeah that's ridiculous. MemoryTen is more reasonable and they have 3
of these cables in stock for $39.98....
http://www.memoryten.com
I prefer the Type5 keyboards over the clunky Sun3 keyboards anyway.
I run my 3/50 3/60 and 3/110 on my Dell flatscreen with no problems. Of
course you will need the RGB to 13W3 adapter which might be harder to come
by.
-Kurt
Don't have one of those or I'd use it. Did a quick google on the P/N...
http://www.upgradebay.com/Products/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=169290343
Um... $255?!? They are on the drugs.
Yes, I can make one. No I haven't made one. A list member is sending
me a real Sun3 kb this week.
Of course now that something is moving on this, I wonder if I have a
suitable monitor...
I know I have a working Viking Moniterm I (and the Amiga card to go
with it). Apparently, on this very list, it was mentioned 13 years
ago that the monitor has DIP switches for its timing settings
(1280x1024 @ 60hz was apparently common, and as used with the
A2024-compatible adapter, 1024x800 @ 60Hz or 1024x1024 @ 50Hz)
http://marc.info/?l=classiccmp&m=104957388722023&w=2
Anyone know if it'll do 1600x1100 @ 66Hz or 1152x900 @ 67 Hz? Even
if it can, would it require an ECL->TTL level converter for the video?
A quick google is not revealing tech docs for the Moniterm I (but
there's plenty of cautions out there that they fail often).
-ethan
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