test-drb May 2012

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by legalize＠xmission.com

ebay # 190680984602 FYI. I'm not bidding on it. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

12 years, 7 months

FS: RA-81 drive spindle and disk enclosure

by alanp＠snowmoose.com

I am cleaning out the garage. Found a couple more RA-81 pieces to pass on. These items are light enough that there is no problem shipping them. Items are located in the Seattle area. The drive spindle is about 7" diameter and 6" tall. The platters were stacked on vertical separators with the spindle in the center. There is a pleated air filter that goes around the inside, center of the spindle. The disk enclosure is about 16" wide, 18" long and 7" tall. It held the platters, spindle and head assembly. As far as price, make an offer. I really just want to get stuff out of my garage, but, if someone wants to pay for the stuff that I am getting rid of, that would be awesome. For photos, check out this link - http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?30901-Drive-spindle-… alan

12 years, 7 months

Human language [was RE: Line length [Re: VT220 focus]]

by RichA＠vulcan.com

From: Rod Smallwood Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:09 PM > Japanese code for example was totally different as their language is > based on ideographs. Please stop spreading erroneous information. One of the writing systems used for the Japanese language, kanji, is _logographic_ (each written sign denotes a word). In reading Japanese, each such sign can be read in as many as 10 different ways, depending on whether it is read as a native Japanese word (or morpheme, that is, a unit of word formation possibly "smaller" than a full word--English "-ly" is an example), called kun-yomi "Japanese reading" or as a Chinese word in one of 4 different sets of pronunciations (kan-on "Han sound", the most common; go-on "Wu sound", used chiefly in reading Buddhist texts; to-on "Tang sound", used in reading some later literature; and kany?-on "idiomatic sound", which are often "correct" Chinese pronunciations which violate the rules for the other 3 systems). The occurrence of synonyms complicates things further. In addition, there are 2 additional scripts, both ultimately derived >from simplified ways of writing kanji, called hiragana and katakana. Both are syllabaries, that is, each sign represents a single syllable of the word, and multiple signs are used to write the word. The Japanese *language* is based on vocalizations produced by the human throat and mouth, representing neural events in the brain, like all other human languages. Rich Alderson writing as someone with undergraduate and graduate degrees in linguistics rather than in my usual role, so not the usual .sig

12 years, 7 months

Includes Hangman !

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

Just looking at old DECUS catalog entries as to "first hangman" on a DEC computer, it only helps us with DECUS releases, but: DECUS NO 12-36 Hangman for PDP-12 PDP-12 with A/D, VR12 Display, Basic LlNCtape System, SK Memory, ASR33, KWI2, KE12 LAP6 Jud Gilbert , Florida St a t e University, Ta l l aha s s e e , Florida This word game is based on the penc i I and pape r s t i ck figure drawing game . One pl aye r types in a book t i t l e and a c lue . Another pl aye r guesses l e t t e r s . Six incor r e c t guesses loses. DECUS No. FOCAL-42 (implicitly PDP-8 FOCAL) The Hangman Game Dan Miller , Glastonbury, Connecticut The program a l lows the user to pl ay the game of Hangman' with the computer . Project Delta, Clark Barker, DECUS RSTS-11-002 1 REM HANG CLARK BAKER 2/73 DSAA PROJECT DELTA 10 ! HANG WILL PLAY A GAME OF HANGMAN ON A CRT (VT05 OR VT06).

12 years, 7 months

Bletchley Park Code Breaker Olive Bailey Interviewed

by bryan.pope＠comcast.net

WWII Code Breaking Secrets Revealed at Berwick, Victoria, Canada http://www.winstonchurchill.org/support/the-churchill-centre/publications/c… Interview is here: http://www.cbc.ca/ontheisland/2012/04/18/victorias-wwii-code-breaker-1/ Cheers, Bryan

12 years, 7 months

fwd from NetBSD VAX list: VAX 6320 w/ TU81+

by mouse＠Rodents-Montreal.ORG

No affiliation with this person, but I'd much prefer to see a VAX given a new and caring home. I know nothing about this beyond what you can see below. /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse at rodents-montreal.org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B > From: "Robert Schaefer" <rschaefe at gcfn.org> > To: <port-vax at NetBSD.org> > Subject: VAX 6320 w/ TU81+ > Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 19:25:31 -0400 > Message-ID: <2C54A3A6C8C84748AAEF5BDB3FF18BF6 at ratioHP> > Anybody near to Columbus, Ohio interested? I can't bring myself to scrap > her, but she's been sitting idle for nearly a decade now. Converted to 240V > single phase, booted several times into VMS 5.? before I had to park her. > > If anyone wants to forward this to classiccmp, I'd be obliged. > > -- > Bob

12 years, 7 months

IBM P/390

by BHuntsman＠mail2.cu-portland.edu

Anyone here interested in a PCI-based IBM P/390 board (Not E)? I've actually got two that I'm not using, and a PARCA bus-and-tag board, and think that some other hobbyists should have a chance to acquire this stuff... I'd also consider trades... Thanks!

12 years, 7 months

Calling all bored VAX hackers :)

by abs＠absd.org

I was wondering if there are any VAX coders on the list who are willing (and brave/strange enough) to poke into gcc internals? I have a (relatively speedy) little VAXstation 4000/90 happily running NetBSD-6, which is built using gcc-4.1. All of the other NetBSD ports have switched across to gcc-4.5, but some changes in 4.5 have caused codegen issues in the VAX backend. Essentially you can cross compile a vax system with gcc-4.5, but the resultant system exhibits certain, shall we say, glitches (most annoyingly in the boot program), and the generated compiler is unable to reliably compile anything. Additionally the gcc DWARF2 stack unwinding for VAX appears to be incomplete, causing issues for C++ exceptions, and potentially making libffi unbuildable on VAX. ( http://gnats.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=44155 ) The latter point is quite annoying as it blocks building glib2, and any app that depends upon it. I know the VAX is pretty much the poster child for legacy platform nowdays, but from a certain perspective a VAX has similar characteristics to an unusual embedded system, (just built using steam pipes & valves), so should be able to run the same basic apps, tools, and even graphical apps. Besides, to quote Dylan Thomas I feel the VAX should not go gentle into that good night, but rage, rage against the dying of the light :)

12 years, 7 months

Bogus eBay auction

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

On 24/05/2012 06:49, William Maddox wrote: > Our favorite eBay fraudster is at it again: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-Equipment-Corp-DEC-TU56-w-TC11-RK05-LA36-/2… > > This exact same photo first appeared on eBay when Ashley Carder legitimately sold the gear that is shown. Fraudulent relistings, stating that the bidder must contact the "seller" directly at a specific email address, have reappeared about half a dozen times over the last year or two. > > --Bill The ironic thing is that the fraudsters go after key "high value high popularity" items, done solely by a text search. Thus they wanted to put up fraudulent listings for Plasma Display Panels (PDP's) but end up using PDP-11's. I would bet they have absolutely ZERO idea what their fraudulent auction is actually for. Time for cow-tipping? Tim.

12 years, 7 months

Bogus eBay auction

by wmaddox＠pacbell.net

Our favorite eBay fraudster is at it again: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-Equipment-Corp-DEC-TU56-w-TC11-RK05-LA36-/2… This exact same photo first appeared on eBay when Ashley Carder legitimately sold the gear that is shown. Fraudulent relistings, stating that the bidder must contact the "seller" directly at a specific email address, have reappeared about half a dozen times over the last year or two. --Bill

12 years, 7 months

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test-drb May 2012