This is a beautiful specimen.
On a pinetop worktable with FOUR RX01/02 floppies!!
Starting at $200..someone please save this!!
http://tinyurl.com/6p9mp
/wai-sun
Hello, PDP8-enthusiasts!
I recently got a very complete looking set of paper tapes for the PDP8/L.
All tapes are read in and ready for download on http://pdp8.hachti.de .
Feel free to copy and/or mirror the files. I would be glad to see my
tape images on bitsavers etc.
Good night,
Philipp :-)
Michael,
I think you are providing a great service. And your web site is an
excellent example for all of us trying to save a little history of
computers. Thank you.
Count me in as one willing to buy any CD or DVD you produce.
Do you have the issue that reviewed the PAIA 8700? I don't remember if
it was RE or PE. But I do remember buying the computer from the
reviewer. Then visiting the designer and finding he had also designed a
EPROM burner and monitor to go with it.
Don't know if it was ever released. The pace was so fast in those days
that single boards machines were outpaced by the many systems.
Billy
> I know this could be the start of YET ANOTHER thread "Oh I think
> it's older than that..." but to avoid that, let's raise the
> standard from opinion/hearsay to printed word.
>
> From _ENCYCLOPEDIA OF COMPUTER SCIENCE_(Van Nostrand), 1976:
>
> KLUDGE
>
> The word "kludge" is a term coined by Jackson Granholm in an
> article "How to design a kludge" in _DATAMATION_ (February 1962).
Yep, it's way older than that. According to the Jargon File (which has
also appeared in print in various editions, and which I'd trust a lot
more than some random Van Nostrand "encyclopedia"), the above would be a
reasonable statement if you replace "coined" by "popularized":
kluge
...
The variant 'kludge' was apparently popularized by the Datamation
article mentioned under kludge; it was titled How to Design a Kludge
(February 1962, pp. 30, 31).
...
For all the details, see
http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/K/kluge.htmlhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/K/kludge.html
--
Tim Mann tim at tim-mann.orghttp://tim-mann.org/
Just thought I'd let the listees know that while visiting my local parts and equipment store today (which carries a large amount of discontinued and surplus items of all types), I noticed there was a whole aisle of electronic vacuum tubes there. Guess it's been there for quite a while, I just hadn't noticed it before. I looked at several of the tubes and saw that the addresses listed on the boxes contained no ZIP codes, so I figure that a good part if not all of these tubes are vintage items from back in the '50s or '60s. I have no idea what prices they have on these items as most of the stuff is unmarked, but I know from buying other items there, their prices are usually pretty reasonable. If anyone has any needs of vintage vacuum tubes, contact me off list and I be glad to check on them for you. I saw RCA, GE, and Sylvania there to mention a few and I believe most were for TVs and Radios, but who knows what else I may find there. I'm not an electronics person so I don't know what distinguishes one tube type from another. Let me know if I can be of help to anyone out there.
Bill
bmachacek at pcisys.net
On Mar 30 2005, 16:27, Chad Fernandez wrote:
> From watching JunkYard Wars, or Scrap Heap Challenge as it is called
in
> the UK, I thought Bodge was about the same as kludge, too.
Meanings tend to evolve with common usage. Just as "kludge" is
becoming less derogatory in some circles, so "bodge" becomes more so,
especially as with "precision engineering", the art of the bodger (in
the sense of someone employed as such) disappears. "Botch" still means
something that fails to work, "bodge" works, "kludge" works, but is
ugly.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Hi,
I just found two small lamps in a HP packaging and was wondering if someone
knew for which system these are ?
Part number is 2140-0203 and the text on it says LAMP, INCAND. 5V
Written with a marker on the packag is STICKER LAMP and LOAD POINT
Anyone any idea's ? It came with a bunch of HP1000 items.
Stefan.
-------------------------------------------------------
http://www.mansier.net
I'm looking for DOS (or dare I say unix) based software to control my facit
N4000 punch. Yes, I can do it all via the front panel, but I'd like to find
a copy of wncedit or something - as I understand it that software will start
the punch, read in the binary and store it in a file, then burp the file
back out to the device at a later time to recreate the tape.
If anyone has such software I'd appreciate contact off-list. Otherwise, I'm
gonna start writing something.
Jay West
you can buy "brand new" copies of CP/M for the 820 from California Digital. The last time I checked they had gotten rid of most everything except CP/M and a few other things.
http://www.cadigital.com/software.htm
what their website doesn't mention is that it was for the Xerox 820 and it is 5 1/4" format. I don't know about compatibility between individual Xerox machines though.
best regards, Steve Thatcher
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Erlanger <andy at erlangerresearch.com>
Sent: Mar 27, 2005 2:24 PM
To: cctech at classiccmp.org
Subject: Xerox 820-II
(Previously posted in html, my apologies).
I'm going to be bidding on a system with 5.25" drives, so I guess that's
what I'd need, even though I think the 8" drives are cooler.
Thanks, Andy
Hi
The external boxes that have tape drives would have to have
a FDC in them. These tape drives were designed to be paralleled
with the wires to a floppy. I'd suspect that the older ones
may have the right kind of controller but may have a clock speed
issue.
Dwight
>From: "Jules Richardson" <julesrichardsonuk at yahoo.co.uk>
>
>On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 12:42 -0500, Barry Watzman wrote:
>> This might be the answer to being able to access 5.25" drives on a "modern"
>> PC.
>
>Semi-related, but I took one of their backpack CDROM interfaces apart a
>few years ago - it was all totally custom ICs inside, plus I know
>Microsolutions wouldn't publish any details on the control protocol. I
>expect you'll find the same thing with the floppy drive version.
>
>> It would be really cool if 22Disk would work with a drive connected to
>> this thing.
>
>I *expect* it's a pretty standard FDC chip and a bit of buffer / control
>parallel-port interface circuitry implemented on a custom chip - I doubt
>they'd go to the trouble of buffering raw tracks etc. and using the
>associated memory to do that. Which means you're probably limited to the
>same MFM formats that a normal PC FDC is capable of, and nothing more.
>
>Linux *might* support the backpack floppy drive; I can't remember...
>
>cheers
>
>Jules
>
>
