test-drb May 2003

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by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 9, 9:53, Witchy wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On > > Behalf Of Peter Turnbull > > Sent: 06 May 2003 23:58 > > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > Subject: Re: MINC-11 > > > > If anyone in the UK wants a MINC-11, I know where there is one, > I haven't any more room either.....whereabouts in Scotland is it? Edinburgh. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 7 months

Oldest computer still in current use

by john_boffemmyer_iv＠boff-net.dhs.org

Yes, oddly enough, it at one point was sitting in the power parallel dept running calculations for various things while the deep blue was being built. I remember my father's manager complaining about IBM insisting that their subcontractor department had to use it and were not allowed to replace it. The just put in for a replacement of a "failed server" that sat there running fine and IBM plopped in another $150k server next to it without realizing it. Though, the S/360/30 was still used. Nowadays, from what I last heard from a guy at IBM Poughkeepsie, NY, the S/360/30 in question is being used to process and develop information on some of IBM's older but still used machines (such as software/firmware development and revisions, etc.). I've also heard htat a similar unit was being used by KLA Temcor (sp?) in robotics development and control. They seem to like coming to my company's shop and picking up serial and SCSI cabling for the robotic units to interface them with the controlling machines while they are being developed. Cheaper than continuously banging out proto-boards every time you'd like to make a change to the function or design or when you need to make a revision. -John At 12:50 AM 5/11/2003, you wrote: >On Sat, 10 May 2003, TeoZ wrote: > > > The oldest computer still in use has to be a government non military > > server somewhere. The military gets too much cash not to swap their > > equipment out every decade at the latest so I rule them out. Other > > branches only upgrade after every user who knows how to run the system > > is dead/retired. Probably some computer setup for the social security > > database, or liscense plate server or other mundane task. > > > > Besides im shure there are tons of Sinclair's running chemical plant > > controllers in the Ukraine somewhere that are at least older then the > > C64. > > > > What about the computer sent out in the Voyager spacecraft in the 70's? > > Or is this just personal computers? > >IBM East Fishkill still very much has Series/1's in full operation. I >think there's also an S/360/30 doing something. > >Peace... Sridhar ---------------------------------------- Founder, Lead Writer, Tech Analyst and Web Designer Boff-Net Technologies http://boff-net.dhs.org/index.html ---------------------------------------

21 years, 7 months

ST Falcon Goes high on eBay

by Paul.HILLS＠landisgyr.com

Similarly, there are also sound cards now where the DSP is accessible. The first sound cards that came out with DSPs on weren't downloadable/programmable, but later ones were. $75 is a great price for an experimental platform! The good thing about the Atari Falcon at the time (a long time before DSPs appeared on sound cards and before softmodems existed) was that there was a public domain assembler for the MC56001, plus, thanks to Motorola's commendable policy of selling silicon but giving away supporting software (to a certain extent anyway), there was a huge library of public domain libraries for the 56K DSP series. There was also a commercial assembler/debugger for the MC56001 which was only about £60. That allowed all the standard debugger facilities - single stepping, register & memory view, breakpoints etc. It just goes to show that technically good products never sell themselves. The Atari Falcon was a dual-processor (MC68030 + MC56001) GUI-based machine which had available a pre-emptive multitasking operating system (MiNT), built in SCSI port & MIDI, 50kHz-sampling stereo 16 bit ADC/DACs, at a time when PCs were twice the price with no sound card, no SCSI, and had just got Windows 3.1...The Falcon flopped! paul -----Original Message----- From: Dwight K. Elvey [mailto:dwightk.elvey@amd.com] Sent: 12 May 2003 18:03 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: ST Falcon Goes high on eBay >From: "Hills, Paul" <Paul.HILLS(a)landisgyr.com> > >That's a lot - it's not really a vintage machine, nor a particularly rare >one. I still use mine as a MC56000 Digital Signal Processing (DSP) testbed. >At the time, the £500 I paid for it was a quarter of what I would have had >to pay to get a DSP experimentation card for a PC, and since I didn't have a >PC at the time it was a bargain. > >In addition to that, I wrote a series of articles about DSP for the ST >Format magazine in the UK, for which they paid me £500, recompensing the >computer's cost! Ha! > >paul > Hi For my DSP experiments, I got one of those "SoftModems". It had a A/D-D/A, ADSP2100 Analog Devices DSP and RAM to load the programs into. It only cost me $75 when new. Dwight

21 years, 7 months

RTG

by c.morris＠townsqr.com

I'll take a stab... I believe it stands for: radiothermal generator (i.e. a big load of strontium-90, or sometimes a plutonium isotope for longer life, in an insulated and shielded container with a large number of thermocouples). Reliable electrical power as long as the decay heat continues... -Charles

21 years, 7 months

Oldest computer still in current use

by barty＠mythtech.net

On another list I am on, we were discussing why DOS is still used today (basic answer, because its working just fine, so why upgrade). The following questions were posed that I don't know the answer to, but someone here might. 1: What is the oldest computer or comptuer system still in normal operational use 2: What is the oldest that is connected to the internet 3: What is the oldest connected to the internet AND hosting web pages that can be visited (I know of an Atari that is acting as a web server, don't remember the URL, but it shouldn't be tough to find... didn't know if there was something older) Figured this is the right place to get these questions answered.

21 years, 7 months

Removing Sharp ie Marker

by awt＠io.com

I have had some luck in the past with hair spray. Hair spray removes the marker then regular cleansers can remove the hair spray. Test it first on something disposable. -- Wayne Talbot <awt(a)io.com>

21 years, 7 months

Software wanted for SGI Irix

by davebarnes＠adelphia.net

I know this might be a long shot.. but anyways... Does anyone have any idea where I might buy, borrow, beg , etc ... Adobe Premiere ver 4.2 (was there any other version?) for the Silicon Graphics IRIX platform??? For that matter.. anyone even touch this or use it??? I have it for the PC, and the Mac on which I do video production, but recently have been bitten by the SGI bug would like to run same on my Irix system. Thanks for any info/leads... David Barnes -- David Barnes davebarnes(a)adelphia.net OpenVMS , Tru64, Netbsd, Linux guru and collector of DEC equipment

21 years, 7 months

RD54 drives & other shtuff up for bid

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

I've put a pair of RD54's up for bid on E-pay. Last time I looked, they were hovering around $20.00 for the pair. Auction ends next Friday. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=167&item=2730509191 Also, for those of you who may have a Data I/O 2900 series programmer, I came across some software kits for it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1504&item=2531783464 Thanks for putting up with my occasional shameless plug. ;-) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

21 years, 7 months

MPI 91/92, 101/102 Flexible Disk Drive Product Manual

by dave＠naffnet.org.uk

I have a copy of the MPI 91/92, 101/102 Flexible Disk Drive Product Manual (including service information, schematics etc.) that is available for P&P only. If there are no takers then it goes into the recycling box... Dave.

21 years, 7 months

MPI 91/92, 101/102 Flexible Disk Drive Product Manual

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 17, 8:42, Dave Woodman wrote: > I have a copy of the MPI 91/92, 101/102 Flexible Disk Drive Product > Manual (including service information, schematics etc.) that is > available for P&P only. > > If there are no takers then it goes into the recycling box... I'll take it "for the shelf" if no-one else wants it for a drive they've got. You can never have to many service manuals :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 7 months

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test-drb May 2003