Pat Finnegan wrote:
>Cool. Next question: is there any software for MSDOS or Linux (preferably
>that I don't need to pay for) that will read/write CP/M-86 (1) hard disk
>partitions or (2) 1.44M floppies. I've noticed 22DSK doesn't support much
>more than 5-1/4" floppies.
Out-of-the-box "CP/M-86 for the IBM PC" does not support 1.44 MB diskettes.
But if you still need it: some time ago I wrote a software package called
"The 1.44 MB Feature for CP/M-86" that provides this support as an add-on to
standard CP/M-86 for IBM.
See the CP/M-86 software repository at www. seanet.com/~klaw
There's also a definition for 22disk in the package.
Freek Heite.
>> networks, but they've since been renamed by Apple to 'PhoneNet' because of
>> the satin phone cable you typically use to connect the adaptors together.
>
>Actually, I think 'LocalTalk' is what they now call the serial-connected
>network. Not quite sure where I got 'phonenet' from...
LocalTalk was always technically the cabling system that Apple developed.
It uses a 4 wire round cable and connects to a box that connects to the
serial port of the Mac (traditionally the printer port)
PhoneNet/TeleNet/TeleTalk was always technically the cabling system that
used 2 wires in a phone cable to connect. I believe this was first
developed by TOPS, but I'm probably wrong. Also connected to an adaptor
that connected to the serial port.
Serial was always technically the cabling system where you take a mac
printer cable and connect two macs together with it (AppleTalk over
Serial... wonder why it was never refered to as SerialTalk)
Localtalk has been perverted into meaning any of the above topologies,
and any others that use the serial port on the Mac.
And Farallon perverted the PhoneNet name by using it in one of their
ethernet cards (PhoneNet EN)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>> their hardware
>> is built well, and built to last. And security? Um...
>
>I've seen better. I have better. (I also have a couple of
>Macintosh's, a IIGS, etc... which still work fine, to be
>fair)
I was making the comparison to the WinTel world, forgetting that without
specifying that on this list, I opened the comment to compare them to a
slew of machines that would blow Apple out of the water. Sorry it was my
Mac Evangelist side popping out too quickly.
>> compared to what?
>
>VMS? :) Even a poorly configured Unix -- until OS X.
>MacOS had no built-in security at that point. (I hope you
>won't seriously suggest that "At Ease" counts... :)
Ok... I was thinking security as in how often we loose or destroy your
files. Not how often we let someone steal your files. No Apple doesn't
excel at keeping the files intact, but they are no worse than many others.
In terms of allowing someone to steal or alter your files, I agree, short
of encrypting the files, there is nothing acceptable on the Mac pre-OS X
(at least OS 9 finally added built in encryption if you wanted to use it).
I have seen few even half way decent security systems to keep people off
your Mac. And even the half way decent ones tend to be easy to bypass if
you have sufficient access to the machine (ie: steal it and take your
time)
Although, in the Mac's defense, in terms of "hacker" access from over the
internet, I will trust my Mac running any pre-OS X version of the OS
before I will trust ANY other OS (even well configured Unix). In that
line, then I stand by my overly stated statement saying that the Mac has
far better security.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>> WOAH?!? That's just a shot from the dark... Apple is known for how good
>> their quality IS... sure they had a few flops, but most of their hardware
>> is built well, and built to last. And security? Um... compared to what?
>> Windows? BWAA HAA HAA HAA HAA!!!
>>
>> -chris
>>
> Really Chris? Then why was I very busy making good money doing
>Apple/Mac support at Electric Boat up here? ;)
Sorry, that was a poorly worded direct comparison to the PC WinTel world.
Having done Mac and PC hardware repair for the last don't know how long,
I can tell you that PCs break down 10x more often than a Mac. Hardware
wise that is. Software wise, well, that isn't fair... Windows just isn't
up to the task of being compared to anything.
Alas, I forgot what list I was on, and many (if not most) of the
computers applicable to this list would blow Apple stuff out of the water
in terms of reliability in hardware AND software.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris [mailto:mythtech@mac.com]
> >Apple Computer Co. always impressed me as being
> >entirely too willing to compromise the quality of MY
> hardware/software, and
> >the security of my data, in favor of their profits.
> WOAH?!? That's just a shot from the dark... Apple is known
> for how good
> their quality IS... sure they had a few flops, but most of
I wouldn't say that. Apple hardware is passable for "consumer"
stuff, sure, but it's not good. Better than most peesee clone
manufacturers? Sure, but again, that doesn't make it good.
You're welcome to buy an all-in-one box with a plastic bubble
for a case if you like, but I'm not going to. :)
I will also grant that Apple's hardware used to be better when
compared to peesee stuff than it is now (possibly due to Apple's
cutting costs)...
> their hardware
> is built well, and built to last. And security? Um...
I've seen better. I have better. (I also have a couple of
Macintosh's, a IIGS, etc... which still work fine, to be
fair)
> compared to what?
VMS? :) Even a poorly configured Unix -- until OS X.
MacOS had no built-in security at that point. (I hope you
won't seriously suggest that "At Ease" counts... :)
> Windows? BWAA HAA HAA HAA HAA!!!
Heh.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com]
> Does the MAC support USB? How about USB-2? 5-port boards
Yes, and "possibly" -- if a USB-2 interface is available on a
PCI board, there's a good chance of finding one supported by
Apple.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
I'm using the case from an IBM AT to build a socket 7 Linux machine.
The AT wasn't complete, and the case is a little rusty on it's hood, so
it wasn't a good example to restore to original.
My question is this..... can I safely leave the PS cover off? If I add
a few of the factory screws the PS case/chassis is still quite solid, it
just does have the cover on the top, or by the drives. Basically, it
removes two out of six sides. I'd want to do this for a bit more
cooling, since the fan would have less obstruction. Plus, I think it
looks lind of cool too :-) Would I have problems with EMF emmisions
effecting the computer's operations?
The main case cover would be installed.... would I have other EMF
troubles, if I leave the top of the PS off?
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
>Does the MAC support USB?
You can thank the Mac for the USB saturation in the PC world. It wasn't
moving until Apple added USB to the iMac.
>How about USB-2?
Not yet
>5-port boards for the PC cost
>about $20.
Most of those boards, if you read the packaging, also support PCI based
Macs, but since every current shipping Mac has USB built in, there is
little need to buy the board except to add it to older systems.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>> >We'd best just agree to disagree about Apple Computer Co product quality.
>>
>> I'm sure not aiming to start another flame war :-)
>>
>Thank you both! ;)
When you are a die hard Mac user in a Windows based industry, you learn
to "agree to disagree" and just let things go.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>Standard? The 8*24*GC kicks keister -- it's accelerated and has great colour
>output. My IIsi is visibly faster since I got one.
I didn't mean standard as in piss poor... what I meant was, the 8*24 was
a commonly found card in the day of the IIx. Yes, it is a very good card.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
