test-drb May 2002

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Googling and "egg-sucking" (was Re: "Toy" computers...)

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:49:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Googling and "egg-sucking" (was Re: "Toy" computers...) > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204281433220.29291-100000(a)george.home.org> > > --- Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, Doc wrote: > > > > > > Dude. > > > > Fire up your favorite Open Source browser. Go to > > > > http://www.google.com > > > > Do a search for this (quotation marks included): > > > > > > > > "Teach Grandpa to suck eggs" > > > > > > BTW Google doesn't find the quoted string... > > I got one hit with this... > "teaching grandpa to suck eggs" > > And a bunch more by using the exact phraseology I heard growing up... > > "teach your grandma to suck eggs" > > With Google, spelling (and precise word selection) counts. > > > Argh. > > Once again, what I thought was a universal expression turns out to be > > a Texasism. > > I would count it as an American Colloquialism, but I don't think of the > phrase as uniquely Texan. Hey, guys. Simplify. A Google search on the phrase "suck eggs" leads to a clear explanation of the historical use of the phrase, dating back to the 16th century in English, and older in other languages. < http://www.quinion.com/words/qa/qa-tea1.htm > carl

22 years, 9 months

Info for IMS hardware needed

by Fritz_Chwolka＠t-online.de

There is someone searching for infos about IMS - hardware. Can you help ? Answer only to: arlen.michaels(a)sympatico.ca ==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE================== >Return-Path: <arlen.michaels(a)sympatico.ca> Just want to thank you for making the old manuals and image files available on http://oldcomputers.dyndns.org/public/ I found things here (like the IMS information) I have been hunting for years. I am still looking for documents etc for some other IMS S-100 boards dating from around 1980-84: - A862 Z80 CPU - A930 Floppy Controller - A821 Winchester Controller - A1100 Winchester Controller - A1021 64K RAM You don't by any chance have files for these, do you? :) Best wishes, Arlen Michaels arlen.michaels(a)sympatico.ca ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE=================== -- Greetinggs from Fritz Chwolka < collecting old computers yust for fun > > at www.alterechner.de <

22 years, 9 months

The toys just keep coming... Tek 4105 terminals

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

I finally hooked up with an old college buddy of mine who works at OCLC. We had previously arranged to meet today before I filled up my car with wads o' DEC stuff. Fortunately there was still room for the three complete Tektronix 4105 terminals. He caught them on the way to the dumpster a few years ago, but hasn't done much with them. They all powered up and worked 4 months ago. Is anyone interested in one? I do not need three. Make offers off-list, please, to ethan_dicks(a)yahoo.com (if you reply to this message it will take longer for me to see your message). Offers exceeding S&H will receive first consideration. Given their size, I'd prefer pickup or even delivery at Dayton (if you are going). Packing will be a hassle. If you act now, you can have a Tek 4695 color printer... I got it at Dayton because there were Amiga drivers for it. Turns out I wanted a 4696. The 4695 is a messy beast that set back inkjet evolution several eons. I only mention it because it is specifically mentioned in the docs as supported as the standard color "Copier" device. I have offered the printer to the list once. I got no responses. This time, I will tear it down for interesting tidbits and junk the rest. It is too cantankerous and the ink is essentially not available, so as a printer, it's worthless. Its only value is as a decorative accessory to the terminal in a historical exhibit to show how it would have been used in period. Anybody have any interesting data files/software to throw at a Tek terminal to do cool stuff? -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com

22 years, 9 months

New Toy - VAX 4000-710

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> I would have thought it was an Alpha > box, but unless the sun was in my eyes, it says "VAX 4000" on one > name plate on one end, and "Model 710" on a name plate on the other > end. I think the sun was in your eyes (or someone has been playing with labels). It might be a VAX 4000-700A or a VAX 4000-705A or it might indeed be an Alpha: a DEC 4000-710 (this was the Fang, a follow on to the DEC 4000-610, the Cobra). You can add a second CPU to obtain a 4000-720 (similarly you can get a 4000-620). > It's still in the back of my station wagon, so I haven't even > fired it up. From the stickers on the devices, it's running UNIX > (/dev/whatever on all the disks and tape drives). It's almost certainly a DEC 4000-710 (which is probably a win: they are rarer than VAX 4000-70x machines IMHO). I don't think Ultrix ever ran on the VAX 4000 machines. > I bought it without powering it on because a) I wanted the TSZ07 and > it was cheaper than the shipping alone, and b) they don't have > a 20A plug at the surplus barn (the one with the blades like (- |) > not the usual (| |) for a 15A plug). Sounds to me like you won big time here :-) Antonio

22 years, 9 months

No subject

by Fritz_Chwolka＠t-online.de

There is someone searching for infos about IMS - hardware. Can you help ? Answer only to: arlen.michaels(a)sympatico.ca ==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE================== >Return-Path: <arlen.michaels(a)sympatico.ca> Just want to thank you for making the old manuals and image files available on http://oldcomputers.dyndns.org/public/ I found things here (like the IMS information) I have been hunting for years. I am still looking for documents etc for some other IMS S-100 boards dating from around 1980-84: - A862 Z80 CPU - A930 Floppy Controller - A821 Winchester Controller - A1100 Winchester Controller - A1021 64K RAM You don't by any chance have files for these, do you? :) Best wishes, Arlen Michaels arlen.michaels(a)sympatico.ca ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE=================== Greetings from Fritz Chwolka - Duisburg / collecting old computers just for fun at www.alterechner.de \

22 years, 9 months

ARK files

by caprio＠dcms.com

Eric, Thank you. pkxarc did the job! >> I picked up a bunch of CPM archives from CPMUG. The files end with the >> ARK file extension. I've tried the unark16.exe I picked up from the >> oak.oakland.edu site but I can't seem to get them to unpack. > >ARK should be the same as ARC. You could probably use pkxarc if you can >still find it. I think pkunpack will work as well. Does anyone know if >WINZIP handles "ARC" type archives? > >> What MS-DOS command works on these archives or do I need to fetch a CP/M >> version and run under a CP/M emulator? > >Eric

22 years, 9 months

MP/M was CP/M-86

by f.heite＠hccnet.nl

Oaxton wrote: >I liked MPM. I am still sitting on a MPM box that supports 4 terminals and >hope to get it running again some time. Hmm. that reminds me, I am going to >need a new (used) 10 meg HD for it. It is nice to see the SW for it on the >Internet. On what kind of hardware is this MPM (86?) running? Newbies that want to experiment with MPM, would most likely want an implementation of MPM for the IBM PC hardware - but is that available somewhere? The downloads that were mentioned a week ago (mpm8621i.zip etc.) are for some compupro hardware. Freek.

22 years, 9 months

New Toy - VAX 4000-710

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Antonio Carlini [mailto:Antonio.Carlini@riverstonenet.com] > > a 20A plug at the surplus barn (the one with the blades like (- |) > > not the usual (| |) for a 15A plug). > Sounds to me like you won big time here :-) Sounds to me like a 16A plug. ;) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

22 years, 9 months

FW: Dig UNIX Alpha V3 CD-ROM Kit

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> OpenVMS? Maybe eventually. When I started really getting into > computer work, it was as an operator, on an OpenVMS system... But since I > do have the CDs and docs here for D/UX, I'll give it a whirl, and see if it > fits my needs. > Does it allow only one user at a time, without the OSF-BASE PAK? > This afternoon I'll be firing up my 3000/400 to see what's > installed, before I try throwing D/UX on it... Without the PAK you'll be pretty restricted on what you can do, and can probably only log in on the console. I suspect you can't even bring up X-Windows. OpenVMS has the advantage of being cheaper to run for a Hobbyist, but the Hobbyist PAKs have to be renewed every year (for free). Tru64 costs about $100 for the hobbyist, but that includes a set of CD's and permanent PAK's. Personally I prefer OpenVMS on my Alpha's as I can run UNIX faster on x86. Zane

22 years, 9 months

New Toy - VAX 4000-710

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> The big win, though, was a fully loaded (SCSI drives, 4 x MS440 > and TSZ07) VAX 4000-710. I would have thought it was an Alpha > box, but unless the sun was in my eyes, it says "VAX 4000" on one > name plate on one end, and "Model 710" on a name plate on the other Lucky Bum!!!! That's one of the most powerful VAXen around! OpenVMS/VAX should rock on that sucker! It's interesting that there is a VAX 4000-710 and a DEC 4000-710 with the DEC being an Alpha. Zane

22 years, 9 months

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