test-drb January 2002

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by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 4, 11:45, Richard Erlacher wrote: > If the period took up as much space as another character, that would be > true, but with mail readers that perform kerning as though they were trying > to prepare text for publication, the period gets short-schrift, so to speak, > and often is nearly invisible. The practice of inserting two spaces was > inherited from the requirement for it in the printing/publishing industry. Actually, it has long been normal to use the same space between sentences as between words in printing. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 5 months

Megabyte vs Mebibyte (was Re: Language and English)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 4, 10:39, Ethan Dicks wrote: > Besides the 1000 x 1024 method, the moniker "1.44Mb" has an additional > marketing advantage - it's a simple multiple of 720K (which is really > a 1Mb raw floppy, formatted to 737,280 bytes under DOS, or 1024 x 720). > It's easier to conceptualize that a "1.44Mb" floppy holds twice as much > as a "720K" floppy. If you called it a "1.47Mb" floppy, I think there > would be even more confused newbies than there are now. My nitpick is that it's "MB" (megabytes) not "Mb" (megabits). And *of course* it's 1.40625MB, or 1.4MB for short :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 5 months

Language and English

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 4, 12:49, David Woyciesjes wrote: > ! From: Richard Erlacher > ! > ! It's never safe to open an attachment to an otherwise undefined email. > ! > ! I'd suspect only two or three on this list will be foolish > ! enough to open > ! this one. > ! > ! Dick > > Huh? What attachment? I think Dick is referring to the fact that Dan's posts appear on many systems as an empty message with a single attachment of raw data. It's actually typed "multipart/signed", and it ought to appear as a text attachment (or a text main part) with an attached signature block, but on software that doesn't intrinsically understand multipart/signed (like mine, and apparently Dick's), it doesn't. Probably something to do with the fact that "multipart/signed" is not one of the original MIME types. Maybe Dan could turn off the PGP signature for the list? I thought we'd agreed that multipart posts were inappropriate, or was that just "multipart/alternative"? However, since it's correctly typed it would seem fairly safe to open -- especially for those of us using a Unix machine to read mail :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 5 months

Compenents Source?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Something like these? http://www.smokeyamps.com/popups/smokeypop.htm They sell for about $25. 1/4" headphone in/out plugs, and they last quite a while on a 9-volt. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); ' > -----Original Message----- > From: Kent Borg [mailto:kentborg@borg.org] > In olden days I would go to Radio Shack, but that doesn't work > anymore, so I though I would ask here. > Anyone know where I could find a small, cheap, low power, amplified, > battery powered speaker? Back when I would have bought a "telephone > amplifier", but in 2002 I can't immedaitely find such a thing.

22 years, 5 months

VAX 6400 booting saga: how to transfer binaries to VMS with kermit?

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, I'm ripping my hair out over VMS (as usual). I have a little magic file that I need to transfer from PC to VAX. And kermit on both ends. I thought I knew how to use kermit, but no matter what I do, the file will never work as an executable on the VAX. It always complains about a corrupt descriptor block and it comes up too long. The file is exactly 2048 bytes long and when I send it it comes up as 5/6 blocks with DIR/SIZE=ALL. That is one block too many, isn't it? The funny thing is, when I do a round trip with kermit PC -put-> VAX -get-> PC, I get two identical files on the PC. But when I do VAX -get-> PC -put-> VAX of a working .EXE file on the VAX, I end up with a broken copy (same error.) So, what can I do? I have SET FILE TYPE BINARY on both sides. I'm so sorry for bothering you with my VMS ignorance, I greatly appreciate your patience and help. regards -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

22 years, 5 months

PDP-11 memory question

by tom＠sba.miami.edu

I have a PDP 11/23 (M8186 CPU with floating point and MMU options) in a 4 slot BA11-MA box that at some point in its life was an 11/03. It had an M8044-DF 32k memory module, which I'm trying to replace with a 128k M8059-KJ. The system works fine with the 32k module, but won't do anything with the 128k module. I'm not familiar with PDP-11's, but it seems like my backplane is only 18-bit, while the new memory module is 22-bit. I've also read that the M8186 board is only 22-bit compatible after revision C. I can't find any mark on the board showing what revision it is. Is there another way to tell? Also, is possible to modify the 18-bit bus and make it 22-bit, or maybe by swapping out the backplane? I also noticed that on some used PDP-11 web sites that the BA11-M sells for much more than the BA11-S, which I thought had 5 more slots. Is there some reason for this? Thanks, Tom

22 years, 5 months

Megabyte vs Mebibyte (was Re: Language and English)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Chomko [mailto:vze2wsvr@verizon.net] > > It's especially egregious, because even IBM, who use > 1024000 for Megabyte > > for disks, uses 1048576 for memory. Thus, an IBM megabyte > of disk storage > > will not hold the content of an IBM megabyte of memory! > Seems like you have lots of energy on this Fred. 1000 1K > blocks. Is that a > reason > to fly off the handle? Well, you're right that he's probably a little too sensitive on this, but it is a stupid way to count a megabyte -- not even self-consistent. :) Personally I prefer the 1024*1024 method. It makes the most sense to me. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

22 years, 5 months

Ultirix for Vaxstation 4000/90?

by wlewis＠mailbag.com

I'm probably going to pickup one of these in the near future, and while I run VMS on my 4000/VLC, I would like to to run a *nix on on this one. Since NetBSD and company don't have a working X server, that limits things a bit. Anyone have a copy they'd be willing to sell? Thanks, William

22 years, 5 months

Crescent wrenches (was: Nomenclature (was: NEXT Color Printer find

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

I can't wait to get up to the in-laws vacation house in central VT to do some riding!!! --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Lawrence Walker [mailto:lgwalker@mts.net] ! Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:36 PM ! To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org ! Subject: Re: Crescent wrenches (was: Nomenclature (was: NEXT Color ! Printer find ! ! ! Well where I'm living now is prime snowmobile territory. ! They're as obligatory ! as pick-up trucks and more common than motorcycles. When I ! grew up out ! here in the 40's the multi-passenger ones were called ! "Bombadeers" from ! the name of the company who made them, Bombardier, and who later ! introduced "Ski-Doos" the motorcycle of snowmobiles. I was ! surprised to find ! when I returned that locals still call the larger models Bombadeers. ! ! Lawrence ! ! > Whoa, can't let that one by: we know what a snowmobile is ! up here (c'mon, ! > fellow Canucks, back me up on this one!); mind you, if you ! asked ME what ! > a snowmobile is, I would indeed look at ya kind of funny ! (oops, funnily, for the ! > language police), since apparently YOU don't know what it ! is or you wouldn't be ! > asking... ! > ! > But a snow sled??? Who calls it that? Sounds like the ! SkiDoo trailer. ! > ! > Anyway, one of us invented the thing, so we can call it ! what we like! ! > ! > So there! ! > ! > :) ! > ! > -----------------Original Message------------------ ! > From: Roger Merchberger <zmerch(a)30below.com> ! > ! > [snippage] ! > ! > [more snippage (pronounced snippahdge up here, not snippedge :)] ! > ! > And as it's winter, and we *finally* have snow here, talk ! to some Western ! > Ontario Canadians and ask them what a "snowmobile" or "snow ! sled" is - ! > they'll most likely look at you funny, at least for a few ! seconds until it sinks ! > in. They go "skidooing" in the wintertime. ! > ! > ! ! ! ! Reply to: ! lgwalker(a)mts.net !

22 years, 5 months

More worthless crap posted not worth reading...RE: Language a nd English

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] > On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Christopher Smith wrote: > > > Well, if you use the "modern" definition of poetry, sure > they are. ;) > > ... and given the "modern" definition of art, the people who paint > > lines down the middle of the street are "artists." According to the > > "modern" definition of music, one can talk over top of some [snip] > It's a good thing this metaphor does not extend to "Modern > Programmers". > We'd all be out of work. Ahh -- but it does. Have you seen the latest stock of MS "certified" monkeys? Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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test-drb January 2002