Well, a quick explanation of a frost heave... (from CT :-)
Water seeps through a crack in the road, and gets trapped
underneath. The water then freezes, and expands, which "heaves" the asphalt
above it up into a bump.
Whats worse is when the ice underneath melts, but the asphalt
doesn't come back into shape quick enough. A vehicle hits the bump, and
busts the bubble that's left. Now you have a pot-hole...
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! -----Original Message-----
! From: Ian Koller
!
! I'm here in snowed out South Eastern US and I know
! about "black ice" and "Bridge Freezes Before Roadway"
! but what are "Frost Heaves"?
!
! I could have done without this snow. I needed to make
! a trip down to GA and possibly FLA that has to be delayed.
!
!
!
!
! Michael Nadeau wrote:
! >
! > Wait til they find out about frost heaves.
! >
! > > >
! > > > Odd that you should mention this ...
! > > >
! > > > As they've reccently had snow in the southern U.S,
! where that's a
! > noteable
! > > > and rare event, youngsters interviewed DO refer to the
! thing as a "snow"
! > > > sled, apparently because snow is such a rarity.
! > >
! > > HA... And they are *just* learning about the phenomenon
! known as "black
! > ice".
! > > :-D
! > >
! > > Bryan
! > >
! > >
! > > >
! > > > Dick
! > > >
! > > > ----- Original Message -----
! > > > From: "Matt London" <classiccmp(a)knm.yi.org>
! > > > To: "'ClassicComputers'" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
! > > > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:10 AM
! > > > Subject: Re: Crescent wrenches (was: Nomenclature (was:
! NEXT Color
! > Printer
! > > > find
! > > >
! > > >
! > > > > Hi,
! > > > >
! > > > > > Whoa, can't let that one by: we know what a
! snowmobile is up here
! > > > (c'mon,
! > > > > > fellow Canucks, back me up on this one!); mind you,
! if you asked ME
! > what
! > >
! > > Yes, as a fellow Canuck, I know what a snowmobile is...
! In the town of
! > 9,500
! > > where I grew up, as soon as there was 3 to 6 cm of snow,
! everyone would be
! > > on their skidoo's.
! > >
! > >
! > > > > > a snowmobile is, I would indeed look at ya kind of
! funny (oops,
! > funnily,
! > > > for
! > > > > > the language police), since apparently YOU don't
! know what it is or
! > you
! > > > > > wouldn't be asking...
! > > > > >
! > > > > > But a snow sled??? Who calls it that? Sounds like the SkiDoo
! > trailer.
! > > > > >
! > > > > > Anyway, one of us invented the thing, so we can
! call it what we
! > like!
! > > > >
! > > > > Just a second! What's this I see...
! > > > > From: M H Stein <mhstein(a)usa.net>
! > > > > A Canuck wuth a usa.net email address? Something
! screwy there if you
! > ask
! > > > > me, but then again I'm one of those dodgy brits :&)
! > > > >
! > > > > -- Matt
! > >
!
! From: Matthew Sell [mailto:msell@ontimesupport.com]
!
! David,
!
!
! Yeah - messed up again. I really meant to say "NetBSD", and
! not "FreeBSD" all the while.
!
! Maybe FreeBSD would be good for my "Unibus VAX 4000" ?
!
! : )
!
!
! - Matt
Yeah, it should be about the right speed....
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Golemancd(a)aol.com [mailto:Golemancd@aol.com]
> has no one ever heard of that.
> pick the battles you fight.
Of course. Is it not from Sun Tsu's "The Art of War?"
... but I'd hardly call typing a war. :) If it is, then it's likely that you'll want to "win" it if you plan to work with computers.
> some one said the post didnt warrant a response.
> he was correct. i was just talking about an idea.
> thats it. it was not important.
You must believe what you say is of some import, otherwise, why bother to post anything? People are just complaining that while you seem to care enough about what you're saying to post it, you don't seem to care enough to allow them to understand it.
The only word of caution I would give is that this is a very "hands-on" (technical, if you prefer the term) list. If you speak about things without being detailed enough for everyone to comprehend, it may annoy several people. (Myself included, honestly. :)
Let me give the example of your post, which said, essentially:
"Why do you need a bigger network?"
You might have explained why you thought that the subjects current network was big enough, or you might have asked specific questions in order to get a good idea of its size. The question -- especially being the entire content of the post -- is pretty vague. :) On top of that it was abbreviated. ;) How are we ever supposed to hold a conversation with you that way?
I'll also say that I might expect a one-sentence post if it were, for instance, a very direct answer to a technical question. On the other hand, a one-sentence post which asks such a broad question about a broad topic is almost definitely not giving complete expression to the question. (Or it's philosophical, and not expecting an answer -- in which case, why post?) We can't see you, and we don't know you yet, so we have no idea whether (or how) we can draw any inferences from the question.
In other words, it's not a matter of being textbook correct, but making yourself understood.
(Wow, am I that long-winded?)
Regards,
Chris, who isn't even awake yet -- watch out after lunch
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
> a period at the end of a sentence is followed by two spaces, for example.
Ok, if we're going to be anal here, and criticise "English" then in
English
it's not a period, it's a full stop.
*ducks to avoid flames ;D*
Alex
--
melt
meltlet(a)fastmail.fm
! From: Richard Erlacher
!
! It's never safe to open an attachment to an otherwise undefined email.
!
! I'd suspect only two or three on this list will be foolish
! enough to open
! this one.
!
! Dick
Huh? What attachment?
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Aww geez, stretching things a bit here, aren't you? ;-) TGIF....
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! -----Original Message-----
! From: Feldman, Robert [mailto:Robert_Feldman@jdedwards.com]
!
! Since ee cummings had been disparaged here, one could
! interpret the term as
! critical of a certain New England poet ;)
!
! -----Original Message-----
! From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu]
!
!
! Well, a quick explanation of a frost heave... (from CT :-)
!
! Water seeps through a crack in the road, and gets trapped
! underneath. The water then freezes, and expands, which
! "heaves" the asphalt
! above it up into a bump.
! Whats worse is when the ice underneath melts, but the asphalt
! doesn't come back into shape quick enough. A vehicle hits the
! bump, and
! busts the bubble that's left. Now you have a pot-hole...
!
! --- David A Woyciesjes
!
! ! -----Original Message-----
! ! From: Ian Koller
! !
! ! I'm here in snowed out South Eastern US and I know
! ! about "black ice" and "Bridge Freezes Before Roadway"
! ! but what are "Frost Heaves"?
! <snip>
!
David,
Yeah - messed up again. I really meant to say "NetBSD", and not "FreeBSD"
all the while.
Maybe FreeBSD would be good for my "Unibus VAX 4000" ?
: )
- Matt
At 12:43 PM 1/4/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>! -----Original Message-----
>! From: Matthew Sell
>!
>! From what I understand of the Linux kernel, it uses two, and
>! the i386 has
>! three modes of operation.
>!
>! Don't forget that FreeBSD already runs on the VAX, and FreeVMS (in my
>! project concept) would be an extension and implementation of
>! the existing
>! FreeBSD kernel so that it "looks and feels" like VMS.
>!
>! I also wanted this implementation of FreeBSD to use native
>! DEC filesystems
>! and operate classic DEC hardware.
>
> Poking around through NetBSD also would probably be helpful. That
>runs on 30+ architectures, and FreeBSD & NetBSD often use the same source
>code for drivers too...
>
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! -----Original Message-----
! From: Matthew Sell
!
! From what I understand of the Linux kernel, it uses two, and
! the i386 has
! three modes of operation.
!
! Don't forget that FreeBSD already runs on the VAX, and FreeVMS (in my
! project concept) would be an extension and implementation of
! the existing
! FreeBSD kernel so that it "looks and feels" like VMS.
!
! I also wanted this implementation of FreeBSD to use native
! DEC filesystems
! and operate classic DEC hardware.
Poking around through NetBSD also would probably be helpful. That
runs on 30+ architectures, and FreeBSD & NetBSD often use the same source
code for drivers too...
--- David A Woyciesjes
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Since ee cummings had been disparaged here, one could interpret the term as
critical of a certain New England poet ;)
-----Original Message-----
From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:20 AM
To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'; Michael Nadeau; 'Ian Koller'
Subject: RE: Crescent wrenches (was: Nomenclature (was: NEXT Color
Printer find
Well, a quick explanation of a frost heave... (from CT :-)
Water seeps through a crack in the road, and gets trapped
underneath. The water then freezes, and expands, which "heaves" the asphalt
above it up into a bump.
Whats worse is when the ice underneath melts, but the asphalt
doesn't come back into shape quick enough. A vehicle hits the bump, and
busts the bubble that's left. Now you have a pot-hole...
--- David A Woyciesjes
--- C & IS Support Specialist
--- Yale University Press
--- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu
--- (203) 432-0953
--- ICQ # - 905818
! -----Original Message-----
! From: Ian Koller
!
! I'm here in snowed out South Eastern US and I know
! about "black ice" and "Bridge Freezes Before Roadway"
! but what are "Frost Heaves"?
<snip>