test-drb September 2001

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by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

It would be great if you could do WordMaster, the precursor to WordStar. It was a very useful editor for programming and its pattern of control-keys for cursor movement and editing was used by many other programs. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Battle [mailto:frustum@pacbell.net] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:34 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: essential CP/M files Allison wrote: <snip> >How about a decent editor? I used CP/M just a bit back in the day, and I'm only now learning a bit more about it. Do you have any recommendations? I've seen TED in one of the CP/M archives, but I haven't gotten far enough along to see if I can get it to run on a Sol. <snip>

22 years, 10 months

Incompatible Timesharing System (ITS) Starter Kit Available

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > Of course, you'll need Bob's simulator; you can check out > > Zane Healy's emulators page, or pick up a copy at: > > For those that don't know my page is at: > http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/pdp10emu.html > and Bob's pages are at: > http://www.tiac.net/users/mps/retro/ > > I've got links to all the ITS related materials on the net that I'm aware > of. If anyone knows of any documenation of any sort on the net besides what > is at Mirian's site, or the ITS reference manual, version 1.5 from MIT, I'd > appreciate knowing about it. The same goes for any other documenation for > TOPS-10 and TOPS-20 that isn't already listed on my site. On your ITS page, the last link: http://bony.umtec.com/pdp10.html appears to be stale... might just be down at the moment, but the sources for ITS can also be found on John Wilson's FTP site. He requests that downloads take place after hours or on weekends. -dq

22 years, 10 months

essential CP/M files

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

>If you were stuck on an island with a solar-powered CP/M machine and only one floppy disk in CP/M 2.2 format, which programs and utilities would you want on that disk? I'd have two floppies. Any opinions of what I should distribute with the emulator? Here is what I am planning on so far: STAT PIP ASM MAC DDT ED DUMP LOAD SUBMIT XSUB How about a decent editor? >Unfortunately, I don't have FORMAT, MOVCPM, PUTSYS, GETSYS, or SYSGEN since None of those are very meaningful for an emulator. >Although there are lots of replacement programs for those listed above that are undoubtedly better than the stock CP/M 2.2 programs, I am going to use the originals from D.R. and leave it up to any user who cares enough to customize it as they see fit. Why? will the emulator provide a way to create a new disk drive? Allison

22 years, 10 months

Solomon Splitting the list... (was: Classic Computers vs. Classic Computing

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 14, 11:02, Roger Merchberger wrote: > Now, if anyone's ever *heard* of a SPDT DIPswitch bank, let alone where I > could find some... otherwise I'll be stuck with jumpers (which is O.K., but > dip switches would look nicer & be harder to lose from the finished > project...) So far, Jameco, JDR Microdevices & B.G. Micro don't list them... You certainly can get them. I have some in my junk box and they're listed in the Farnell catalogue over here (http://www.farnell.co.uk/). Farnell, incidentally, have outlets in the US. Depending on exactly what you want to do there are various options. Tyco make a "subminature washable PCB mounting" SPDT switch with pins on a 0.1" pitch which are side-stackable (part number SE1DGPCFN). EAO make one that's explicitly listed as stackable, 0.1" pitch, SPDT is part no 09-03290-01. ERG make SPDT (and others) as part of their 014 DIL switch series (the ones with colour-coded sliders), SDC1014, SDC2014 and SDC4014 are 1, 2, and 4-section respectively. They also do a recessed SPDT (SCD1 023 to SCD5 023 for 2/4/6/8 pole), slide switches in similar style which are 1-pole/8-way, 2-pole/4-way, and 4-pole/2-way (DS16C18, DS16C24, DS16C42). Enough? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 10 months

Olivetti ETX II

by sstratford＠mbbc.edu

Can anyone point me in the right direction to someone who might have information about an old CP/M machine and/or parts (specifically, keyboard): Olivetti ETX II. Thanks. --Steve

22 years, 10 months

Why is this so slow?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Does anyone have any idea why it takes upwards of 15-20 minutes > (seems longer sometimes) for my postings to this list to get > sent back out? Echelon? -dq

22 years, 10 months

Emulators (was: Classic Computers vs. Classic Computing

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > > Unfortunately, last year, one of our administrators hauled off all of our > > > file cabinets of punched cards, and I don't know where else to find a > > > copy. > > > > Is he a preservationist? Or was he just cleaning shop? > > He filled several dumpsters with irreplaceable classic computer stuff, > without asking whether we wanted to part with any of it, and on a weekend, > so that we didn't know about it until it was gone. Molten iron would be > too gentle. Epithelial vaporization by carbon-dioxide laser over a 10-year period? -dq

22 years, 10 months

[Donna.Deleon@COMPAQ.com: Urgent Vax 7800]

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Some people in the Pentagon have a need for CPU and RAM for a VAX 7800.. Please contact Donna if you can help. Bill ----- Forwarded message from "Deleon, Donna" <Donna.Deleon(a)COMPAQ.com> ----- From: "Deleon, Donna" <Donna.Deleon(a)COMPAQ.com> To: "'mrbill(a)decdocs.org'" <mrbill(a)decdocs.org> Subject: Urgent Vax 7800 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:42:28 -0500 Good afternoon Bill, I am a Compaq employee and participated on a North America conference call. During the call many things were mentioned re: the devastation that we all faced here in America. During the call it was asked that if there were any contacts that could be provided in search of as many as 70, 7800 Vax system that are needed at the Pentagon with deep urgency. Do you have any that you are willing to loan/donate etc.....or know of anybody that would be able to provide the same? Please feel free to contact me @ 719 592-6767 with any additional questions or leads that I can follow up on. Your help is greatly appreciated! Sincerely, Donna L. DeLeon ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

22 years, 10 months

Need Electronic Soldering help....

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

***This is sent to the whole ClaasicCmp list, since others may/will have 166Alpha Multias too...*** Pat --- Well, the Multia Heat Death Syndrome (MHDS) is mentioned here... http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/alpha/multiafaq.html#heat-death ...it seems to affect only Multias with the 166MHz Alpha processor. It is on the underside of the board, at the edge closest to the power supply, label E215. One of my Multias just froze, and won't boot up since. Probably MHDS... Common recommendations for Multias is to replace that chip right away. Forgot to do that myself :-/ Doh! Second is to remove the red thermal resistor from the cooling fan (2 yellow wires), which then allows the fan to run at full speed all the time. Or just replace the fan with something that has more cfm output. Once you've got that covered, you should be all set. ---If you put a 2.5" IDE laptop HDD in it, remember that SRM console cannot see it, and therefore cannot boot a kernel off it. You have to either boot from a SCSI HDD, or load the kernel off the floppy, which then can see the IDE HDD and use it. ARC console can boot from either SCSI or IDE. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Pat Barron [mailto:pat@transarc.ibm.com] ! Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:06 PM ! To: David Woyciesjes ! Subject: Re: Need Electronic Soldering help.... ! ! ! David, ! ! I wish I could help you (if I was closer, I'd be happy to). But, your ! message caught my attention - could you explain what you mean ! by the "heat ! death chip"? I am guessing you are referring to a chip that ! has a history ! of failure due to overheat, but which one is it? I have a ! Multia that I ! have not done much with just yet; wondering what sorts of ! problems I can ! expect .... ! ! Thanks, ! --Pat. ! !

22 years, 10 months

Has anyone heard from Bennet (dec.parts@verizon.net)?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Bennet's okay. He was just busy with other stuff, because of Tuesday. He sent this message to me... "...A lot of things went on hold due to the WTC attack... ...My brother-in-law was our only person in NYC, and while close enough to see the WTC, he was far enough away to have been in no immediate danger, though he had a time getting out of the city and home that day. I checked into taking my 10,000 lb. GVWR Ford Dually and 12,000 lb. GVWR 16' Beavertail Flatbed up to NYC for vehicle and debris removal, but alas, we don't have the funding to support that operation, and would have required corporate sponsorship. So it probably can't happen. Sincerely, Bennett --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Eric Dittman [mailto:dittman@dittman.net] ! Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:18 PM ! To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org ! Subject: Re: Has anyone heard from Bennet (dec.parts(a)verizon.net)? ! ! ! > Has anyone heard from Bennet (dec.parts(a)verizon.net)? ! ! The last email I had from him was just before 8:00AM on Tuesday. ! -- ! Eric Dittman ! dittman(a)dittman.net ! Check out the DEC Ethusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/ !

22 years, 10 months

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test-drb September 2001