test-drb September 2001

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Has anyone heard from Bennet (dec.parts@verizon.net)?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Has anyone heard from Bennet (dec.parts(a)verizon.net)? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

22 years, 10 months

OT: World Trade crash...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

I take it you all heard about the two 737s (?) hitting the world trade buildings... one was possibly a hijacked airliner... each hit a seperate tower, I believe... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

22 years, 10 months

Mac Plus as a webserver...

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Isn't the SE an 030 Mac? The Plus is only a 68000. No, the SE was an 8mhz 68000 just like the plus. The SE was basically a newer plus (it had a built in HD or 2 800k floppies, ADB, an expansion slot, and a newer ROM). Later the SE was upgraded to having the SuperDrive (not the NEW superdrive that apple has recycled the name for, but rather the original 1.4mb drive that could read MFS, HFS, DOS, and ProDOS) There WAS an SE/30 that was a 16mhz (33mhz?) 68030... it was basically an SE, but with the faster processor and 8 simm slots rather than 4... I think THAT is the Mac you are thinking of. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 10 months

Classic Computers vs. Classic Computingt

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Eric Dittman <dittman(a)dittman.net> >> PIII still cant emulate the keyboard layout of a Vt100 or VT220 worth >> poop. > >The PIII will emulate the keyboard layout of a VT220 if you use an LK461 >keyboard. Thats one solution. The other is a real VT{100|125|330|340} or H19 since I do have them and prefer the feel of the keyboards and their respective layouts. Allison

22 years, 10 months

Classic Computers vs. Classic Computingt

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> > PIII still cant emulate the keyboard layout of a Vt100 or VT220 worth > > poop. > > The PIII will emulate the keyboard layout of a VT220 if you use an LK461 > keyboard. Also there is a shell script available that will turn an xterm vt100, I've got a copy on my ftp site if anyone wants to try it ftp://zane.brouhaha.com/pub just look for vt100.sh (I think it's in the VMS section). I use it all the time for telneting into my VMS systems. I've got to admit I like the LK461 idea, and just might have to give that a try. Zane

22 years, 10 months

symphony for dot matrix printers

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> > Being a musician, this conjures up all sorts of ideas for using computer > > sounds to make music. I have a recording studio hung off my main > > non-classic box, so I can add this to my List of Unfinished Projects. Some > > useable sounds might be: > > > > (printers, of course) > > hard drive spinup & chatter > > Head crashes :-) I considered that but don't know of any way to consistently get heads to crash in such a controlled manner as to be useable musically (i.e., makes pretty much the same sound every time). Do you? (Is this subject OT if I'm using > 10 year old gear? And if I'm deliberately causing classic hard drive heads to destroy themselves, hmm . . . is it okay if I only use ST-225s??? ;>) Glen 0/0

22 years, 10 months

Has anyone heard from Bennet (dec.parts@verizon.net)?

by dittman＠dittman.net

> Has anyone heard from Bennet (dec.parts(a)verizon.net)? The last email I had from him was just before 8:00AM on Tuesday. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Ethusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

22 years, 10 months

Classic Computers vs. Classic Computing

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Well then ther are those like me... I use MyZ80 as a platform to test z80 and cp/m software at the application level and a real (pat pending ;)) Z80 system with real VT100/125/340 to run it in reality. It's not an Emulator is better or worse thing for me. I cant yet buy a z80 that runs faster than MyZ80 on a PIII/550. At the other extreme that said PIII still cant emulate the keyboard layout of a Vt100 or VT220 worth poop. Allison

22 years, 10 months

Classic Computers vs. Classic Computing

by daveb＠cup.hp.com

> > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Douglas Quebbeman > > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:01 PM > > To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' > > Subject: RE: Classic Computers vs. Classic Computing > > > > > > > Doesn't it seem a little odd to be debating whether emulators and > > > simulators are on-topic when the bulk of the list traffic is about > > > politics, and even the list owner can't get full cooperation in > > an attempt > > > to end threads that have absolutely NO connection with computers nor > > > computing? > > > > Ah, you've seen right through me... > > > > We need to get our minds off it for a while, now, I think... > > > > However, I'd actually hoped the discussion would quickly > > leave the real vs. virtual iron and stimulate some interest > > in the simulators and their range of capabilities. > > > > For example, the IBM 1620 emulator, written in Java, is > > very nice graphically; the 1620 had a great front panel. > > You can toggle in a program and run it; additionally, > > it comes with a memory test (or somesuch) already "loaded". > > > > But it has no facilities to load/save programs to/from disk. It will have when it's done. It's still a work-in-progress. Our plan is to have console typewriter, paper tape reader/punch and card reader/punch done graphically like the front panel. The IBM 1620 History project (of which the emulator is one part) has been on hold for almost a year but is being restarted. > > OTOH, Doug Jones' PDP/8E emulator provides those capabillites, > > and if you haven't seen Bernhard Baehr's PDP8/E emulator for > > the Mac, you should, assuming you have a Mac on which to run it. > > > > Hands down, though, the DEC-10 emulators are most excellent! > > They are able to provide me with a nearly exact duplicate of > > one of the computing environments I grew up with and miss. > > The few differences are: I'm the only user (something we used > > to live for), and the machine name doesn't say I U P U I in > > it. But I can change *that*... > > > > I can also get other users online, but that's another story... > > > > Regards, > > -dq Thanks, DaveB

22 years, 10 months

Classic Computers vs. Classic Computing

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Doesn't it seem a little odd to be debating whether emulators and > simulators are on-topic when the bulk of the list traffic is about > politics, and even the list owner can't get full cooperation in an attempt > to end threads that have absolutely NO connection with computers nor > computing? Ah, you've seen right through me... We need to get our minds off it for a while, now, I think... However, I'd actually hoped the discussion would quickly leave the real vs. virtual iron and stimulate some interest in the simulators and their range of capabilities. For example, the IBM 1620 emulator, written in Java, is very nice graphically; the 1620 had a great front panel. You can toggle in a program and run it; additionally, it comes with a memory test (or somesuch) already "loaded". But it has no facilities to load/save programs to/from disk. OTOH, Doug Jones' PDP/8E emulator provides those capabillites, and if you haven't seen Bernhard Baehr's PDP8/E emulator for the Mac, you should, assuming you have a Mac on which to run it. Hands down, though, the DEC-10 emulators are most excellent! They are able to provide me with a nearly exact duplicate of one of the computing environments I grew up with and miss. The few differences are: I'm the only user (something we used to live for), and the machine name doesn't say I U P U I in it. But I can change *that*... I can also get other users online, but that's another story... Regards, -dq

22 years, 10 months

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