test-drb September 2001

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by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> and if you haven't seen Bernhard Baehr's PDP8/E emulator for > the Mac, you should, assuming you have a Mac on which to run it. If you haven't seen it you should find a Mac and borrow it long enough to try it. I know of one list member that bought a Mac to run it (OK, granted it was a very old cheap one). When I got my PDP-8/m and was trying to get it running I used the emulator as a diagnostic aid, so I could see what I should be seeing on the real hardware and better understand what I was doing. Zane

22 years, 10 months

Introductory Electronics Book?

by cmcmanis＠netapp.com

The Art of Electronics by Horowitz and Hill He will have to read it a couple of times but damn if it isn't the best one. --Chuck At 06:44 AM 9/10/01, you wrote: >I'd like to get some recommendations from the list for a good introductory >electronics book for my 14 year-old son. He's interested in building an >intercom system (and other circuits) that he got off the Web, and I would >like something for him to read that will give him a good understanding of >how the circuit works. (For example, it uses the primary windings of a >120V:12V transformer as a coil.) TIA.

22 years, 10 months

Classic Computers vs. Classic Computing

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > I'm not favoring splitting the list... just hoping to avoid barbs > > for discussing stuff that isn't 10 years old (the sims themselves). > > I hadn't noticed those barbs. Were they because there wasn't an > obligatory mention of WTC? I've been as guilty as others about maintaining OT threads, the recent one about carburetors comes to mind... no one's ever flamed me for it (which is great), but given that many listers want to avoid too much OT stuff, it seemed worth bringing up. Actually, it never really gets very heated here... you should check out alt.sysadmin.recovery, they drummed me right out of there recently for not having a proper sigdash in my posts. For the record, I *do* have a proper sigdash in my posts (but not here); Outlook Express strips the trailing space, and, well, I'm spinning off-topic again... ;-) -dq

22 years, 10 months

Incompatible Timesharing System (ITS) Starter Kit Available

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Of course, you'll need Bob's simulator; you can check out > Zane Healy's emulators page, or pick up a copy at: For those that don't know my page is at: http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/pdp10emu.html and Bob's pages are at: http://www.tiac.net/users/mps/retro/ I've got links to all the ITS related materials on the net that I'm aware of. If anyone knows of any documenation of any sort on the net besides what is at Mirian's site, or the ITS reference manual, version 1.5 from MIT, I'd appreciate knowing about it. The same goes for any other documenation for TOPS-10 and TOPS-20 that isn't already listed on my site. Zane

22 years, 10 months

Classic Computers vs. Classic Computing

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Perhaps I've been a little strong with my comments (about emulators, say) in > the past. If so, I apologise. I wasn't intending to flame anybody... Nope... didn't take it that way, anyway.... I don't recall when the list was founded ('97?), though I'm a latecomer ('00)... but I still consider a certain portion of the discussions here amount to each of us "feeling each other's callouses"... to abuse banker- talk... Regards, -dq

22 years, 10 months

Mac Plus as a webserver...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! They refused to swap my machine... and you can't tell me that ! they didn't ! already have the new ones on order if they were there 2 days ! later... the ! bastard was just trying to clear out inventory and take ! advantage of a ! young teenager. Ouch... That hurts! --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

22 years, 10 months

Classic Computers vs. Classic Computing

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> ! ...I'm not sure how many of you have ever thought about this; but > ! now that I've broached the subject, whaddy'all think? > > I dunno about splitting the list. Even my interest is in the > hardware side, like Tony, I'm sure there are many here that go both ways. > And there will be new guys, that are unsure about thier preference, and > seeing discussions about both sides in one place here, will definitely be > helpful to them... I'm not favoring splitting the list... just hoping to avoid barbs for discussing stuff that isn't 10 years old (the sims themselves). -dq

22 years, 10 months

Classic Computers vs. Classic Computing

by cisin＠xenosoft.com

Doesn't it seem a little odd to be debating whether emulators and simulators are on-topic when the bulk of the list traffic is about politics, and even the list owner can't get full cooperation in an attempt to end threads that have absolutely NO connection with computers nor computing? -- Grumpy Ol' Fred

22 years, 10 months

Incompatible Timesharing System (ITS) Starter Kit Available

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Calling all ten-heads... Thanks to the efforts of many people for preserving the ITS operating system, and to the more recent efforts by Mirian Crzig Lennox in creating an ITS starter kit, interested parties can now run ITS on Bob Supnik's SIMH PDP-10 sim. You'll find Mirian's ITS starter kit at: http://www.cosmic.com/u/mirian/its Of course, you'll need Bob's simulator; you can check out Zane Healy's emulators page, or pick up a copy at: http://www.cosmic.com/u/mirian/its/files/simh26b.zip Additionally, Mirian has also created a mailing list: "To subscribe, send an empty e-mail with "subscribe" in the subject to <its-hackers-request(a)cosmic.com>. The list address itself is <its-hackers(a)cosmic.com>. You must be subscribed to the list in order to post, to prevent spam (but the list is not archived on the web, so you don't need to worry about spam-bots. If I ever do archive the list on-line, I will munge all e-mail addresses to thwart the spam-bots.)" Mirian is providing only the OS for now, but expects to have MIDAS (the ITS assembler), TECO, and of course, EMACS up soon. Everyone is asking about MACLISP; anyone have a copy? Regards, -doug quebbeman

22 years, 10 months

Mac Plus as a webserver...

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Properly known as the 'Macintosh SE FDHD'. Yep, I got one of these, running >OS 6.0.7, 50MB HDD, and 4MB RAM... Yeah, I got screwed out of mine... I bought my SE and had heard rumor about them going to FDHDs, and I SPECIFICALLY asked the Computer Factory salesman if they were going to switch. He told me no, that the rumor was false, so I shelled out my $2500 for the SE. Two days later, I was in the Computer Factory, and what did they have... big signs talking about the just arrived SE FDHDs!!! Same price, newer drives! They refused to swap my machine... and you can't tell me that they didn't already have the new ones on order if they were there 2 days later... the bastard was just trying to clear out inventory and take advantage of a young teenager. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 10 months

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test-drb September 2001