test-drb September 2001

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by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Is there anyone in the CT area (I'm in New Haven) who is good at replacing the soldered chips? I have 3 (or is it 4?) DEC Multias, with the infamous Heat Death chip. I can pay/barter for the parts and labor... Replies should pobably be direct to me, off list... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

22 years, 10 months

Why is this so slow?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Well, the message below took over an hour. I sent it at 11:00, and now it's 12:26 when I got it back... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] ! Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:06 AM ! To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org (E-mail) ! Subject: Why is this so slow? ! ! ! Does anyone have any idea why it takes upwards of 15-20 minutes ! (seems longer sometimes) for my postings to this list to get ! sent back out? ! ! --- David A Woyciesjes ! --- C & IS Support Specialist ! --- Yale University Press ! --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu ! --- (203) 432-0953 ! --- ICQ # - 905818 !

22 years, 10 months

Emulators (was: Classic Computers vs. Classic Computing

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > For example, the IBM 1620 emulator, written in Java, is > > very nice graphically; the 1620 had a great front panel. > > About 35 years ago, I was using a 1620. The two main programs we were > using were a PDQ FORTRAN compiler, and ... > > a 1401 EMULATOR! > > I wonder if the 1401 emulator that ran on the 1620 would run on the 1620 > emulator? > > Unfortunately, last year, one of our administrators hauled off all of our > file cabinets of punched cards, and I don't know where else to find a > copy. Is he a preservationist? Or was he just cleaning shop? -dq

22 years, 10 months

Classic Computers vs. Classic Computing

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > Apples and oranges, Iggy. That's a totally different emulator world > > than the one I'm talking about. In the world I'm talking about, I > > don't think anyone creating emulators is under 40 years of age > > (well, Daniel Seagraves is under 40, I think). > > Why did you put this limit on 40 ? > ;-) > Most people I know working on emulations are just few years around the > 40 ... Precisely what I said. -dq

22 years, 10 months

VCF 5.0 Postponed

by vcf＠vintage.org

An Important Message About VCF 5.0: Due to the recent events that have affected all Americans this week, it has been decided to postpone the fifth annual Vintage Computer Festival until further notice. We regret this decision, but in light of the problems being faced by out of town travelers, not to mention the trauma that we have all experienced as a result of the terrible events in New York and Washington, D.C., we felt that this was the right decision to make. We regret any inconvenience this may cause to those who had made arrangements to attend the event this weekend. The VCF wishes to express its sorrow to everyone who has been touched by this tragedy. We encourage everyone to do what they can in the coming days to help those who are in need, including donating blood at your local Red Cross. Please be aware that the California Extreme event will still be taking place this Saturday and Sunday, September 15-16, at Parkside Hall in San Jose, California. Please continue to check the VCF website at http://www.vintage.org/ for updates on when VCF 5.0 will be re-scheduled. We hope and pray for peace to prevail in the comings weeks and months, and we hope you will do the same. Best regards, Sellam Ismail Producer Vintage Computer Festival Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

22 years, 10 months

recent acquisitions for the House of VAX

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

Jerome Fine wrote: > I could probably use the TU58 manuals, however, I would > rather see them > sent to someone who will scan them and make them available to > everyone. I've already scanned the TU58 user manual and if it's not already on its way to DFWCUG it soon will be (for some suitable value of "soon"). > Since I have only RT-11/PDP-11 hardware stuff, what might help? What > about a set of out of print RT-11 DOCs? As far as I know, these are > allowed to be reproduced since they are no longer available? I know someone was trying to get Mentec to give permission for certain manuals to be made available. If this has already been done, then point me to something >from Mentec that says it's OK and your wish may be granted. > Can these be > scanned as well? They can certainly be scanned. Can they legally be made available? > Also, I hope to soon receive an 11/73 manual? Could this > also be scanned? Easily! In fact, as long as it's not available from COMPAQ, years ago DEC gave (almost) blanket permission for anything pre-1985(?) to be made available. > I realize that it is great to have our own copies of these > manuals, but I am > now hoping that they can all be scanned and thereby preserved > before that > is no longer possible. You do know about the DFWCUG scanning project? Pointers to them (and a bunch of other individuals doing the same sort of thing) can be found at http://www.decdocs.org . Antonio

22 years, 10 months

Classic Computers vs. Classic Computing

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > > But it has no facilities to load/save programs to/from disk. > > It will have when it's done. It's still a work-in-progress. Our plan is > to have console typewriter, paper tape reader/punch and card reader/punch > done graphically like the front panel. Dave- The one I've been laying with is from Richard Jowsey... are you working with him, or is yours a separate project? -dq

22 years, 10 months

Classic Computers vs. Classic Computing

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I diagree. > > We need both the emulation-simulation fans, AND the hardware fans. I keep reading my original post to see where it is that I suggest a split; I don't. But you're not alone in having mis-read my post. I've felt that discussions about emulators and simulators weren't quite welcome here. I want to see them included. [..snip..] > As for the computing experiuance being computing, I also disagree. Again, a misunderstanding... I consider the term "Classic Computing" to be more inclusive than "Classic Computers". The latter implies (to me) a hardware focus; the former is more inclusive, describing both hardware and software. > Building devices and interfacing them to the hardware has always been > a major attraction to computing, and this is nearly all the original > personal computers were able to do. Hell, I know a guy that did this with mainframes as well. I'm glad to have stimulated conversation; sorry so many are misreading my intentions. Regards, -dq

22 years, 10 months

OT: World Trade crash...

by marino13＠btopenworld.com

I have to say that I agree with the original part of this - I have been discussing this with my colleagues and I know for a FACT (and yeah its a lot easier to say this when you're not involved) that I would definately take the risk... the chances are you're gonna die anyway. If the plane was on the ground or part of a "hostage scenario" thats different but I am surprised not one person would have tried anything. But who knows... perhaps they did. Just my thoughts. > Unfortunately, I think you're mistaken here, Bill. The typical American of > today hasn't the courage to risk his life as an individual, even if it means > being slaughtered as part of a group. That same American hasn't the courage to > call the cops if he sees someone breaking into his neighbor's house or car, > because he fears being singled out as an honest individual, rather than part of > the corrupt masses. > > Dick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Sudbrink" <wh.sudbrink(a)verizon.net> > To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:10 AM > Subject: Re: OT: World Trade crash... > > > > > > Mike Ford [mikeford(a)socal.rr.com] wrote: > > > > > Very sadly I suspect this type of attack to be > > > repeated soon. It was simply too easy and too > > > effective, for other organizations not to try > > > it again. > > > > I doubt that. As a matter of fact, I think that > > most airline hijacking will cease to be effective. > > I think that, after this, any able bodied person > > on a hijacked plane will resist with their life. > > I know that I would, rather than die as part of > > an instrument used to kill many more. > > > > >

22 years, 10 months

OT: World Trade crash...

by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

Mike Ford [mikeford(a)socal.rr.com] wrote: > Very sadly I suspect this type of attack to be > repeated soon. It was simply too easy and too > effective, for other organizations not to try > it again. I doubt that. As a matter of fact, I think that most airline hijacking will cease to be effective. I think that, after this, any able bodied person on a hijacked plane will resist with their life. I know that I would, rather than die as part of an instrument used to kill many more.

22 years, 10 months

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