test-drb June 2001

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Subject: Re: Storage of computer and parts in the residential are a

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

What we really need is a lending library and a central repository for classic computer equipment. The obvious solution is to go underground. The law doesn't say anything about below a residential area. I think a warehouse like the one at the end of "Raiders of the Lost Ark" is just the answer. How about underground limestone quarry space? How about decommissioned missile silo? Maybe it's a fantasy, but exploring an endless building full of old computer equipment could be my retirement goal. Probably better than sex. Maybe it's senility. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

23 years, 6 months

OT stories about phone phreaking

by wind＠coxnc.rr.com

Is it still possible to phreak a phone by unscrewing the talk speaker? I tried unscrewing the mouth peice once, could not unscrew it. Bastard would NOT budge. Thanks Note: From a very new newbie to phreaking :-)

23 years, 6 months

PDP-11/53+ Jumpers

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 7, 22:58, ajp166 wrote: > From: Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> > >like that. But a box labeled 11/53 and having an 11/23 procssor in it > is > > an 11/23, not an 11/53. It won't run RSX-11M or Ultrix configured for > an > >11/53, or various things. > > > An 11/23 would run RSX-11 just not the I&D kernal, same for Ultrix > depending on version. Of course, but what I wrote was that a kernel configured for amn 11/53 wouldn't run on an 11/23. It would have to be re-SYSGENed. > >I'm surprised you say it's common. I can see that in a few cases the > >processor might be removed to use elsewhere > It was happening when the processors were NEW. Seems it made a very > compact fairly fast system if the DEC box was not used. However early on > getting the bare CPU was difficult so people bout 11/53s, snatched the > cpu > and resold them with commonly available 11/23s (as Micropdp-11s) Oh, I see. I suppose that makes sense. It doesn't seem to have been common over here, though. > >I'm thinking of > >11/03 -> 11/23, 11/23 -> 11/73, 11/73 -> 11/83, microVAX -> microVAX-II > >upgrades). > > Yep, like my 11T03 that has a BA11N and 11/73 cpu I have its exact mate here :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 6 months

Storage of computer and parts in the residential area

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Good God, I'm glad I live in the middle of nowhere... My garage contains enough stuff that there is only a 2 foot wide path to use as a walkway, and there is a big stack of lead acid batteries next to the garage (to be recycled sometime). Until we got new siding, I had a big mound o' aluminum there.. There's the frame of a System/36 in the backyard (temporarily), and a semi trailer by the barn. You're lucky if your planning officials are nice, the county commissioners where I live are corrupt and have shit for brains. Like their brilliant law that if you operated a boarding stable, you had to have this stupid "use by special review" which you couldn't get if even one neighbor wouldn't agree to it, so naturally we had one dipshit neighbor who objected... So without it, the "wise" commissioners said you could only board one horse per 20 acres... and we had 40 acres with an 18 stall barn... Needless to say, we boarded 18 horses there... *urinates upon Douglas County* Will J (end rant) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

23 years, 6 months

Will trade classic H/W for CP/M 2.2 help!

by lance＠costanzo.net

Speaking of CP/M and DRI, here's some web sites that may be of interest: http://www2.gol.com/users/joewein/dri.html http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/cpm/index.html http://www.faqs.org/faqs/CPM-faq/ http://www.retroarchive.org/cpm/ http://members.aol.com/wwheco1/commscpm.htm http://www.maxframe.com/GARY&CPM.HTM http://www.daml.org/people/jflynn/algolm.html At 08:28 AM 6/8/01 -0600, you wrote: >You can buy a "new" licensed copy of CP/M (the original DR version) from >California Digital for only $9 at http://www.cadigital.com/software.htm. It >won't be set up for your particular computer, though, but does have the DR >manuals. only $9 and you get a manual? dang!

23 years, 6 months

Motorola 88000

by JRichardson＠softwright.co.uk

Hi, > Not that I want to provide the canonical list of 88k machines, but I'm > guessing DG sold the most 88000 machines. I personally used a Tektronics > XD88, which was a beast performer at the time. I've got an XD88 (running now, thanks to list help!) - they really do fly for the age of the things. I can't remember how many 88100 chips it has - just the two I think. Not sure of the core speed either. My system's the '10 with the 8-bit framebuffer; wouldn't mind the '30 with the 24-bit unit (from the scare info I've heard this was a significantly different machine with a proper expansion bus etc.) I don't know why these things failed - I know they were hidiously expensive when new though ($15000 for an '88/10 in the late 80's) so maybe there just was no market for them... bet there aren't many left these days! cheers Jules

23 years, 6 months

SYM1 Page

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Lee: Regarding the SYM-Physis issues, he's sent me issues 1-8 already. Apparently Massimo is a scanning maniac. I plan on posting them anyway. It's nice to have multiple sources available for this information. Rich -----Original Message----- From: Davison, Lee [mailto:Lee.Davison@merlincommunications.com] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 10:19 PM To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' Subject: RE: SYM1 Page Richard, > the SYM1. So much so, that I may put up a "SYM1 page" > on Highgate. He's now working on scanning the SYM Physis, > a newsletter for SYM users (1979-1982). Issues 1 to 10 are allready available on www.6502.org Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call 01285 884400.

23 years, 6 months

OSI BASIC

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

A while ago Bill Sudbrink wrote .. I just acquired Microsoft 8K basic in ROM for OSI on paper tape. I currently have no facility to read it, so I don't know if it is source or object. The tape seems to be in good shape (doesn't seem to be fragile) so it should be good for a few passes through a reader. I'll let you know. ... Was it ever read? If so is it available? Cheers, Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call 01285 884400.

23 years, 6 months

OT stories about phone phreaking

by Demon02554＠aol.com

umm...go for some of the boxes not only is it easier...you'd be surprised how much electronics knowledge you can pick up just by screwin with that stuff

23 years, 6 months

IBEX CPM Computers

by terryc＠woa.com.au

Can anyone enliten me about these computers. I was invited to help someone clean out his garage. Ibex, CPM 2.2 I have received a two dual floppy machine, one is 8" floppies and the other is 5" floppies. Also need to know the best way to recover 8" floppies that are water affected. In the haul was a VZ200 with tape drive and some IBM Jr (?) If someone wants the IBM box, they are welcome. I'm in Sydney Australia.. taah. -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} Ph(02) 4627 2186 Fax(02) 4628 7861 email: terryc(a)woa.com.au www: http://www.woa.com.au WOA Computer Services <lan/wan, linux/unix, novell> "People without trees are like fish without clean water"

23 years, 6 months

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test-drb June 2001