test-drb June 2001

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Storage of computer and parts in the residential area

by lance＠costanzo.net

At 07:14 AM 6/8/01 -0700, you wrote: >Mike, > >I'd be interested to see what Orange Municipal Code 17.14.050(H) says. H. Home Occupations. A home occupation is one carried on in a dwelling as a secondary use, where there are no displays or signs at or upon the premises, no other commodity or services are sold upon the premises and no storage of materials and/or supplies upon those premises except within the dwelling or an enclosed garage. Where storage will take place within an enclosed garage, such storage shall be conducted in such a manner so as not to interfere with the parking of vehicles therein. Any materials and/or supplies which are stored upon the premises shall not occupy a space in excess of 500 cubic feet. Such an occupation shall not: 1. Create light, noise, odor, dust, vibration, fumes or smoke readily discernible at the exterior boundaries of the parcel. 2. Involve the use of mechanical equipment or storage of material and/or supplies on trucks in amounts not recognized as part of reasonable household use. 3. Involve the use of services at the premises of non-occupants of the dwelling in any manner; provided, however, that deliveries made by bona fide delivery firms shall be permitted, as long as such deliveries are in amounts or performed in a manner recognized as part of a reasonable household use. 4. Have the premises or adjacent public right-of-way serve as an assembly point for non-occupants, including serving as a location from which such non-occupants are dispatched to off-site locations. 5. Significantly increase the off-street parking load. 6. Involve the storage or use of flammable substances as defined by the Uniform Fire Code, Section 15.101 et. seq., or hazardous chemicals as defined by the Uniform Fire Code, Section 19.101, et. seq. 7. Involve the sale of firearms or ammunition except to those set forth in California Penal Code Section 12078. Records shall be kept for a minimum of one year on the sales of firearms. Information on these records shall include: a. Date of purchase. b. Name, address, phone number, driver's license number and date of birth of the person buying any firearms. c. Brand name, model number and serial number of firearm purchased. 8. Involve the sale, preparation, or storage of food or food products. (Ords. 12-95; 3-93; 4-87; 17-84; 15-80; 12-80; 35-79; 43-69; 15-69: Prior Codes 17.10.030, 17.26.010 and 17.04.290) look it up: http://www.ordlink.com/codes/orange/index.htm >Somehow, I suspect that they're wanting you to admit you are carrying on a >business so that they can then tell you what you can and cannot do. and they're looking for revenue. I would make sure all your goodies are clean and reasonably organized, put as much stuff as possible into one 'work area', take some pics, go down to city hall with the letter and ask to speak to a city planner. When I applied for a home business permit, I talked to a planner so I'd guess that Orange would have a similar structure. Explain to them its a hobby and not a business, its not a nusaince activity (except for the trespassing that's occured by your neighbor), and ask them what you should do. >From my experience, building and planning guys are pretty reasonable. >My first reaction is that you don't want to go that route, but rather that >you want to call it your hobby and exercise your freedom to spend your >leisure as you wish. >Do they persecute ham radio operators, satellite dish owners, book lovers, >and plant aficionados too? > >I have a friend who lives in Irvine. She's not even allowed to park her >car on the street or in front of her garage. It has to be >enclosed. However, she chose that lifestyle, but it seems excessively neat >and tidy to me. > >I've got loads of stuff in the City of LA adjacent to Culver City. No one >has bothered me yet, except my ex-, but that was years ago. > >Good luck, and keep us informed. > >Best, >Nick > > >

23 years, 1 month

SB Systems Z-80 Starter Kit

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Mike Kenzie <KenzieM(a)sympatico.ca> >It doesn't have the S-100 sockets, are these still >available? Fairly easy to get still. They are not called s100 sockets. Not cheap, figure 3-10$ each. >What cards are supported? Presumeably if the bus is S100 a great many of the S100 cards save for CPUs (though slaves may work). >Does anyone else have one working? Not I. Allison

23 years, 1 month

Proteon P4200 and Suminet 3500H/FDDI

by wonko＠tmok.com

hmm, i haven't bothered this list about these yet, this may be a good place. i've gotten absolutely nowhere with these things. friend of mine found docs for the P4200 where he works, so i've pretty much got all the knowledge i need to make it work, sadly i lack an OS. if anyone at all has a copy of the OS for the Proteon P4200 please let me know, this thing is completely useless to me otherwise. i have found absolutely nothing out about the Suminet though. i can't find docs for it, actually i can find very little about this thing on the internet. if anyone has any info whatsoever, please let me know, it's got a serial port that looks like it would be a console, but it only prints the same line over and over (i'd have to hook it up to get a copy of the line) and it's nothing intelligable. any help at all would be great!!! cheers, -brian

23 years, 1 month

Old computer lending library

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> This is not a bad idea at all. And not the first time it's been suggested. Sellam, was it you who brought this up before? -dq

23 years, 1 month

SB Systems Z-80 Starter Kit

by KenzieM＠sympatico.ca

I picked up on of these this evening with the manual. I found some mention of a previous discussion on this list regarding these, but couldn't find any conclusions. It doesn't have the S-100 sockets, are these still available? What cards are supported? Does anyone else have one working? I also picked up a modem for a Commodore 64, and RAM expansion and a hyperion and all it's documentation. Collector of Vintage Computers

23 years, 1 month

PDP11/45 docs (was:dumping dec docs)

by oliv555＠arrl.net

Anyone on-list running an 11/45? Intercepted these dumpster-bound goodies. As before, you pay postage. (also listed some printer docs left over from last weeks giveaway) - KT11-C memory management unit manual - KT11-C engineering drawings - KB11-A (11/45) CPU Maint. Manual - PDP11/45 system engineering drawings - LPV11 (M8027) Printer I/F users manual - LPV11-V (M8027) Field Maint. Print Set - LP11 line printer manual - LP11/LS11/LA11 line printer manual - Dataproducts 2230 (LP05) Tech manual - Dataproducts 2230 Logic Diagrams Enjoy, ..... nick o

23 years, 1 month

Storage of computer and parts in the residential area

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated 6/8/01 10:35:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jss(a)ou.edu writes: > > (3) They may just assume you are running a business, and your only > violation would be having a business in a residential zone. That > should be easy to disprove. > AFAIAC According to general US law *they* would have to *prove* that you *are* running a business. You do't have to prove you are not. By the way, as mentioned before I would have them both prosecuted for tresspassing and invasion of privacy. -Linc Fessenden In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right... Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.

23 years, 1 month

Storage of computer and parts in the residential area

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

Geez...just when you think you've heard it all. This is taking those neighborhood zoning restrictions a bit too far. Obviously, the neighbor has too much time on their hands. Good luck getting it worked out Mike. Jeff >I am so steamed right now, buried in my junk mail I just found a letter >from the city of Orange where I live. (peoples republic of California) > >Notice of violation and order to comply >* Storage of computer and parts in the residential area > >Apparently some neighbor had a inspector come over and peek in my windows >last week, and sure enough I do have a few computers stacked around right >now. The gist of the complaint is that while I comply with all the noise, >parking, etc. they want me to have a "Home Occupation Business License" and >restrict my storage to 500 cubic feet in an enclosed garage. > >Now I guess I have to agree the home is occupied with computers, but my >first reaction is that it is strictly a hobby, no business activity goes on >at all. Before I say anything though I am going to go and read Orange >Municipal Code 17.14.050(H) in the morning. > >I love the arrogance of these people too, giving me 14 days to comply. My >guess is that at best this will be a big PITA, since it kind of hamstrings >me, if I sell off a bunch of stuff, then I am a business, but if I don't >then I may be looking at endless harassment.

23 years, 1 month

Overland 9 track

by broth＠heathers.stdio.com

Does anyone have any docs or software on the Overland Data model OD3201 9-track? It has what I beleive a Serial and a Pertec interface. It does 1600 and 3200 BPI. A quick Internet search came up dry. Thanks, Brian.

23 years, 1 month

Storage of computer and parts in the residential area

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > Or in California where the damned ground won't hold still . . .:^) > > Just a rant, but this whole perception of California being this constantly > roiling land mass is silly. > > When you consider that the east coast has on average at least one > hurricane every year like clockwork (and sometimes a majorly devastating > one), and that the midwest has dozens of tornados (some catastrophic), and > the Atlantic and northeast have terrible weather almost year round, I'll > take the occasional major earthquake every decade or two over all that > nonsense any day (and enjoy the great weather to boot). I would say that good thing there's a place for everyone, but I'll probably never find a mix of weather, economy, and culture I can really live with. For weather, I want winters with three months continual snow cover; I want the economy of the Midwest, were I live, and the culture of New York City. Oh, and proximity to gobs and gobs of Classic Computers... -dq

23 years, 1 month

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