test-drb June 2001

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Storage of computer and parts in the residential area

by CordaAJ＠nswc.navy.mil

You might think that living in a rural area with 5 acres of woodland around you would protect you from this kind of crud, but don't hold your breath.... There's still the insurance company to deal with. My adventure started when a tree took out my front porch during a storm. I made the dreaded mistake of actually trying to _use_ the policy that I had been paying on for 8 years. The company paid up, but a month later I received a letter from the insurance company informing me that my policy was being canceled due to the use of my home as a "storage facility". I argued with the company for a bit and got them to agree to re-evaluate there decision. What they did was to send out a wet-behind-the-ears inspector who then proceeded to tell me that the company _might_ re-instate my policy if I (1) replaced my roof (it was fine, by the way), (2) re-side my house with vinyl (3) Remove the 2 lawn mowers from my yard (remember, I live in the middle of 5 acres of woodland with no neighbors and a 1200 foot dirt driveway) and worst of all, remove all the (and I quote) "Useless electronic junk" from my home. I asked him what he considered acceptable, and he responded with all the rightous arrogance that only the very young and newly powerful can have that one, or at the most two computers would be acceptable, as long as they were small desktops. Needless to say, I asked him to leave. The story does have a happy ending though. I contacted the insurance company one last time and told them that I was going to complain to the state insurance commisioner. They told me to go ahead... the insurance comissioner never forced them to recend any of their decisions, and was merely a "rubber-stamp" organization. I then proceeded to call the insurance commisioners office. While talking to the nice lady on the phone, I repeated verbatim what the insurance company official had said to me. The conversation went like this: "She said WHAT about us?" <I repeated the insurance company's statements> "Oh really?... And what was her name" <I provided the details> "Hmm... well, they might feel that way, but I ASSURE you that we are NOT a rubber-stamp organization..." A few days later I received a letter from the Insurance Commisioner's office stating that my Insurance company had illegally cancelled my policy and had been ordered to re-instate it. (This seemed to amaze my independent insurance agent... I guess it was a pretty rare occurance) Needless to say, as soon as the policy was re-instated I cancelled it myself and changed to another company, but At least I got some satisfaction out of the mess. Moral of the story... If a tree falls in the forest on your deck, make certain the insurace company doesn't hear it :) -al-

23 years, 1 month

Motorola 88000

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> The DN10000 also had a maximum of 4, not 8 processors... There weren't any > actual Apollo products that used the 88K, I guess I could call one of the > founders of Apollo and ask him, but I'm really sure on this one. I knew it was *some* power of two...

23 years, 1 month

OT stories about phone phreaking

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Seen your bill lately? What do they call that? Yeah- I discontinued caller ID, call waiting, etc, back in December. They wwere pretty quicky about turning them off. However, they haven't yet billing know about it... We do it to them, it's stealing... they do it to us, it's " a mistake". Grr.

23 years, 1 month

IMSAI EPROMS

by kapteynr＠cboe.com

Joel: Can't tell much from the first 128 bytes. It looks like a "boot loader" program. I have a similar program that loads Altair Basic from my paper tape reader. How many bytes total are in the ROM ? The jumps at the beginning go to interupt handlers for hardare generated interupts. Follow those to the code they point to. Unfortunately, I forgot what the standard interupt numbers (and what they did) were. What external peripherals (paper tape reader, teletype, etc.) does it have ? -Rob -----Original Message----- From: Joel Weder [SMTP:jweder@telusplanet.com] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 11:46 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: IMSAI EPROMS Hi all... I've been trying to get some action from this IMSAI for awhile now. Main problem is I don't know what is on the EPROMs on the EconoROM board. It looks like banks A & B, OR banks C & D, can be enabled together starting at address 0000h. There are 6 2708's in A0 through B1, and 8 2708's in C0 through C3. I've been looking for an EPROM burner that can read/write 2708's with no luck so far. We have TWO machines at work, and neither will do it. Anyone know of a burner that WILL? I manually read the first 256 bytes of the first chip, and disassembled it, also manually - I'm looking for a good disassembler program too! I've got one called DASM V1.2 by John Wilson, but have been having some trouble with it. If you've got a few minutes, have a look at what I've included below - the first 128 bytes of code. Let me know if any of it looks familiar. (Or if I messed up the job!) The comments are for my own benefit - I'm pretty rusty with assembler. Addr. Hex Value Mnemonic Comments 0000 AF XRA A ;Exclusive Or A with A (clears A) 0001 C3 3B 00 JMP 003B ;Jump to 003Bh 0008 C3 EE EF JMP FFEE ;Jump to FFEEh 0010 C3 F1 FF JMP FFF1 ;Jump to FFF1h 0018 C3 F4 FF JMP FFF4 ;Jump to FFF4h 0020 C3 F7 FF JMP FFF7 ;Jump to FFF7h 0028 C3 FA FF JMP FFFA ;Jump to FFFAh 0030 C3 FD FF JMP FFFD ;Jump to FFFDh 0038 C3 D3 09 JMP 09D3 ;Jump to 09D3h 003B D3 F0 OUT F0 ;Send contents of A register to port F0h 003D C3 11 D2 JMP D211 ;Jump to D211h 0040 3B DCX SP ;Decrement stack pointer 0041 00 NOP ;Do nothing 0042 C3 5C 00 JMP 005C ;Jump to 005Ch 0045 21 00 F0 LXI H,00 F0 ;Load register pair H & L with F000h 0048 0E 4E MVI C,4E ;Move 4E to register C 004A AF XRA A ;Clear register A 004B 77 MOV M,A ;Move register A to loc'n given in H & L 004C 23 INX H ;Increment H & L registers 004D 0D DCR D ;Decrement register C 004E C2 4B 00 JNZ 004B ;Jump on no zero to address 004Bh 0051 06 18 MVI B,18 ;Move 18h into register B 0053 21 2A F1 LXI H,F12A ;Load H & L registers with F12Ah 0056 77 MOV M,A ;Move register A to loc'n given in H & L 0057 23 INX H ;Increment H & L registers 0058 05 DCR B ;Decrement register B 0059 C2 53 00 JNZ 0053 ;Jump on no zero to address 0053h 005C 31 9E F0 LXI SP,F09E ;Load stack pointer with F09Eh 005F CD 42 01 CALL 0142 ;Transfer program control to addr 0142h 0062 06 2A MVI B,2A ;Move 2Ah into register B 0064 CD 51 01 CALL 0151 ;Transfer program control to addr 0151h 0067 CD 7A 00 CALL 007A :Transfer program control to addr 007Ah 006A 23 INX H ;Increment H & L registers 006B 7E MOV A,M ;Move value from loc'n in H & L to reg A 006C FE 3A CPI 3A ;Compare A with 3Ah (A - 3Ah) 006E DA 7A 05 JC 057A ;Jump on carry to 057Ah 0071 CD DE 01 CALL 01DE ;Transfer program control to addr 01DEh 0074 CD 94 01 CALL 0194 ;Transfer program control to addr 0194h 0077 C3 5C 00 JMP 005C ;Jump to address 005Ch 007A 21 BC F0 LXI H,F0BC ;Load H & L registers with F0BCh 007D 22 50 F0 SHLD F050 ;Store H & L registers at F050h Joel A. Weder jweder(a)telusplanet.net 403-556-4020

23 years, 1 month

Will trade classic H/W for CP/M 2.2 help!

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

You can buy a "new" licensed copy of CP/M (the original DR version) from California Digital for only $9 at http://www.cadigital.com/software.htm. It won't be set up for your particular computer, though, but does have the DR manuals. -----Original Message----- From: Stan Sieler [mailto:sieler@allegro.com] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 5:38 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Will trade classic H/W for CP/M 2.2 help! Hi, > To any CP/M 2.2 users with 8-inch SSSD floppy disks... > If any list member can help, I'm willing to trade classic hardware such > as an HP That's a nice offer, and if my back were better, I'd try to talk you out of those machines. However, I suspect that on this list you could simply say "can anyone send me CP/M 2.2 ..." and you'd get some volunteers. I'd send it if I had any of my 8" systems working yet! :) Good luck, Stan Sieler Stan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.html www.allegro.com/sieler

23 years, 1 month

OT stories about phone phreaking

by brian.roth＠firstniagarabank.com

That trick hasn't worked in decades. You can still blue box in some area's but I wouldn't do it. drops a trouble card. Phone phreaking started to go away when the phone companies started to replace the old crossbar switching equipment with electronic switches and computer switching (ESS5, etc...) There are still a few area that you can still red box though. No matter what, its still called stealing. Brian. On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Gabe Steiger wrote: > Is it still possible to phreak a phone by unscrewing the talk speaker? > I tried unscrewing the mouth peice once, could not unscrew it. Bastard > would NOT budge. Brian Roth Network Services First Niagara Bank (716) 625-7500 X2186 Brian.Roth(a)FirstNiagaraBank.com

23 years, 1 month

Motorola 88000

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

The DN10000 also had a maximum of 4, not 8 processors... There weren't any actual Apollo products that used the 88K, I guess I could call one of the founders of Apollo and ask him, but I'm really sure on this one. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

23 years, 1 month

Fwd: Re: Storage of computer and parts in the residential area

by brian.roth＠firstniagarabank.com

Brian Roth Network Services First Niagara Bank (716) 625-7500 X2186 Brian.Roth(a)FirstNiagaraBank.com

23 years, 1 month

OT stories about phone phreaking

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Gabe Steiger wrote: > > > Is it still possible to phreak a phone by unscrewing the talk speaker? > > I tried unscrewing the mouth peice once, could not unscrew it. Bastard > > would NOT budge. > > You've figured out why it is no longer possible to phreak. The phone > companies passed a law that required phone manufacturers to screw the > mouthpiece on so tight that nobody could unscrew it. Therefore, phreaking > is no longer possible ;( Not to mention the fact that eulB sexoB stopped working with the switchover from Switching System 6 (which used in-band signalling) to SS7, which uses out-of-band signalling (i.e. a separate network). Regards, -dq

23 years, 1 month

Motorola 88000

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > The Apollo Domain DN10000 used up to (was it 8?) 88k cpu's... it > > was modular in some way, so that a system could be expanded. > > No. > > The DN10000 accepted one to four Apollo PRISM CPUs. They were > not Motorola 88000-series CPUs. If it wasn't the DN10000, which model was it? I just got done downloading many megabytes worth of patches for 68k-based systems *and* for 88k-based systems from HP's web site. Regards, -dq

23 years, 1 month

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test-drb June 2001