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From: William Donzelli <aw288(a)osfn.org>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Thursday, April 05, 2001 1:36 AM
Subject: For Sale: PDP-8/i w/ Paper Tape
>Due to my computing interests becoming very much centered in the IBM
>world, and also due to 2 tons of Big Blue stuff coming shortly, I have
>decided to sell off a PDP-8/i. I promised the original seller that I
>would not Ebay the thing, so I am keeping it to only a few lists.
Never mind the 8/i....What's the thing to the left of it ?
Jos Dreesen
Article about the difficulty of preserving information in the digital age
http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,42842,00.html
They like 9 track tapes probably because they understand them.
Mike
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
Looking for parts for a MicroVAX 3800. A salvage yard did a number
taking out the TK70 and a couple of drives. I finally have it back
together and booting up. Now I am looking for the complete front door
assembly and the silk screened label that fits over the front panel
buttons. Willing to trade etc.
Brian.
At 04:47 PM 4/9/2001 -0400, Jeff wrote:
>We are all adults here. I doubt this could turn into a flame war.
We've been through this already Jeff and have established that we are all
children here. (regardless of age) Which might go a long way toward
explaining some of the threads :-)
--Chuck
It's nostalgia time
Do you remember IBM JCL, Job Control Language?
Do you remember DEC DOS/BATCH?
Have you punched cards using a drum card?
Have you used an O26 keypunch?
Have you used an O29 keypunch?
Have you played trek on at VT52?
Have you entered data on a VT05?
Have you used an RX01?
Have you used a TU58?
The oldy and goldy Fortran II, remember go to's and format statements.
Don't forget all capitals.
IMPLICIT INTEGER (I-N)
READ(5,995) I
IF( I ) 100,200,300
100 PRINT(6,999) I
999 FORMAT('0I IS NEGATIVE, ',I4)
GO TO 500
200 PRINT(6,998) I
998 FORMAT('0I IS ZERO, ',I4)
GO TO 500
300 PRINT(6,997) I
997 FORMAT('0I IS POSITIVE, ',I4)
500 STOP
END
I think a computer language and programming flame war is needed to clear the
air and stoke the emotions :)
Never mind!
Mike
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
I was at a recent vehicle auction at the Volunteers of America (to look
at the single-engine "experimental" one-seat airplane (that sold for ~$3600)
and ran across an 1977 electronic sub-hunt game from Milton Bradley and
an NEC mini7 GX dedicated word processor. I picked up the electronic game
because it was 75% off green-tags day (making the game about $0.67) and I
picked up the word processor because it came complete with all docs, spare
floppies (720K 3.5"), spare ribbon, and an unused sheet feeder. Oh... I should
mention... the docs and all the onscreen messages are in Japanese. It's my
second Japanese WP (the first is a portable Sharp I got at a hamfest, but
I've never found ribbons for it). After an extensive search on the web, all
I could find (including on Japanese web pages) were a couple of translating
utilities and a web page for a company that does media conversions.
I do read _some_ Japanese (thus the interest in a word processor), but not
much Kanji (a few, but mostly I read Katakana and Hirigana). The slim
"getting started" guide is somewhat helpful, mostly because of all the
pictures and labels in kana. Nevertheless, I am finding it quite difficult
to get started with this thing. Has anyone on the list ever seen an NEC mini7?
There are several models, some with dual floppy, some with floppy and hard
disk (and, I think, a mini5 that may have dual floppy _plus_ hard disk).
At this point, I can only read about 60% of the keyboard (lots of function
keys, but I think I've figured out "shifuto" and "supeesu" ;-)
The copyright dates in the docs and on screen indicate that this was made
around 1986-1987. I haven't disassembled it yet (I've barely had time to
power it on), but I'm guessing it has a V20 or similar processor in it.
There is an optional RS-232 opening in the back (blank on mine) and a
what appears to be a 36-pin centronics connector for an external printer
as well as a smaller connector nearby that I'm guessing goes to the
sheet feeder.
*Any* information on this or something similar would be helpful. If I
had a way to input kanji into Babelfish, I'd start translating keytops
and phrases in the manual. I've been making a list of certain kanji I
see over and over again and figure I'll need to learn.
Thanks,
-ethan
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>From: "Craig Sawyers" <c.sawyers(a)tech-enterprise.com>
>To: <greenkeys(a)qth.net>
>Subject: RE: [GreenKeys] Refinishing question...
>Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:52:44 +0100
>
>> I
>> demonstrated the M14 Strip Printer with Gumming Desk. They want to
>> film the unit later this month.
>
>Thinking of WWII period stuff, you all might be interested in a film that
>will be released in the US in August/September called Enigma. It is a
>dramatisation of a novel by Harris of the same name, and has been produced
>by Mick Jagger.
>
>Reason I know about this is that I have been restoring some cipher equipment
>at Bletchley Park, and that is where much of the filming was done, and where
>all the props are. These are ridiculously convincing! There is a full size
>replica of the centre section of a U-boat, complete with rust streaks (you
>feel obliged to knock on it to convince yourself it isn't made of metal),
>and a 30 foot scale model of a whole U-boat for long shots. There are
>several Turing Bombe replicas, and three Typex cipher machines (these look
>so convincing I leant on one of them to reach something, and it toppled
>over! They usually weigh a hundredweight!).
>
>Anyway - those in the UK, or visiting, can see the props as well as real
>exhibits. I'm looking forward to seeing the film!
>
>Craig
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Iggy Drougge <optimus(a)canit.se>
Date: Monday, April 9, 2001 3:47 pm
Subject: Re: OT somewhat. China, our aircraft, delays.
> > Our people need our support now. Later is never in this game.
>
> Our?
>
I agree with that last comment of yours, some people don't seem to
realise that this list is world-wide, it definitely isn't "our" plane,
& to tell the truth, I couldn't care less - can we get back on topic
peoples ?
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I've been noticing a very disturbing trend...anything that isn't an
overclocked Intel box is "old" or "legacy".
For those of us who care about the quality of what we put on our
desktops (and in our computer rooms), this is pretty frightening.
-Dave McGuire
On April 6, Curt Vendel wrote:
> Joe,
>
> Old Odd Machine??? The HP 9000 K520 isn't that terribly old, I installed
> one of those with HPUX 11.3 at GT Interactive in Manhattan back in 95' A
> damn good and powerful machine.
>
>
> Curt
>
>
>
> Joe wrote:
>
> > FWIW there were two of these for sale at the auction at the Goddard Space
> > Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama this past week. A guy that I know went
> > to the auction and I asked him to try and pick them up for me but I don't
> > know if he did or not. He should be back in a day or two and then I'll
> > know. The point is there's still lots of these old odd machines around if
> > someone is willing to search for them.
> >
> > Joe
Being a kid is a state of mind. I know a few 17 year old adults and a few
40 year old kids.
I consider myself a kid because I sit on the floor when I take apart
computers, I stand on my head in containers/dumpsters pulling out computers,
I occasionally look like a dust bunny/dirt devil after crawling around a
warehouse. My kids think I'm a kid or crazy because I talk to the computers
when I'm taking them apart.
Kids also get excited when they get new toys, and that's me when I've found
a new computer.
Actually I'm a 49 year old kid.
Maybe I'll go back to school when my kids are in college and teach kids.
Actually my goal is to be able to work/play on interesting projects.
Mike
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
