test-drb April 2001

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by geoffr＠zipcon.net

YAY!!!!! I found a local wholesaler that offered to sample me out 2 of the chips I need :) I will definately be buying repair componants for systems from them from now on :) I LOVE a company that goes out of their way to provide customer service :) I also found a source for 11 of them in a tube for $12.00 plus shipping, he ahs 7 tubes :) i think I'll be getting a few of these since sparc 2's, ipc's ipx's and Sparc 10's all use those for their ROMs...

23 years, 9 months

Looking for Les Solomon

by vcf＠siconic.com

Does anyone have any contact information for Les Solomon of Popular Electronics fame? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

23 years, 9 months

Atari 520ST up for grabs in Maryland

by vcf＠siconic.com

Here's a boxed Atari 520ST with all the trimmings. Looking for a new home. Please reply to the original sender. Reply-to: <fmstef(a)earthlink.net> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:31:54 -0400 From: Frederick Steffens <fmstef(a)earthlink.net> Subject: Atari 520ST Hi: I have an Atari 520ST with software, a color monitor and original packing. Also included is manuals and other software, mostly games. I would like to give this computer to a good home, rather than trashing it. Let me know if you have an interest. Thanks, Fred Steffens --- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

23 years, 9 months

Where to find 44pin edge cards/ 6502 d/l freeware

by zmerch＠30below.com

Rumor has it that THETechnoid(a)home.com may have mentioned these words: >MIght try www.atari.org. They have links to the common suppliers of >obsolecent Atari gear. Including development boards and the like. > >Wish I could remember all of them, but: > >BravoSierra is one, B&C Computervisions is another, and there are a couple >of others that escape my perforated memory. Acid is not a good thing for >your long-term memory.... > >Regards, > >Jeff Those are good suggestions, but IMHO the atari dealers get kinda expensive... the 44-pin slots were actually quite standard, and are available from www.jameco.com & *prolly* (but don't quote me) from www.bgmicro.com. Jameco also has the 44-pin edge proto boards, which might be handy if you like to do homebrew electronics. These guys carry a lot of older things, but they don't (usually) want an arm & leg from you... Another good place to try is www.mouser.com - I'm not affiliated with them other than a very satisfied customer... Jameco wants a $5.00 "processing fee" for orders under $50.00, so you might want to browse the catalog for other stuff they carry... HTH, Roger "Merch" Merberger (Oh, Jeff - I did get your email, but things have been crazy over the winter - I have quaffed a few ales with your brother (and he likes my homebrew... ;-), he only lives a few miles from me.) -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig. If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.

23 years, 9 months

Way OT (was RE: OT somewhat. China, our aircraft, delays.)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Chris Kennedy <chris(a)mainecoon.com> > >You screwed up the attribution. This wasn't me -- I did the wing loading >calcs to refute it :-) > Sorry, too many layers of indirection. Allison

23 years, 9 months

Looking for Hayes LANStep

by chronic＠nf.sympatico.ca

Does anyone out there have a copy of this? I remember using it all the time when my school had a nice, respectable computer network and not the Windows NT garbage they have now. I loved the interface, not the best looking thing around but real user friendly and all. If anyone has a copy, let me know. -Lanny

23 years, 9 months

Way OT (was RE: OT somewhat. China, our aircraft, delays.)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Chris Kennedy <chris(a)mainecoon.com> > >> Since the US plane is larger and slower than the Chinese fighters it >> would be effected more by the turbulence. The effect of turbulence is based on wing loading and wingspan. the E-3 having greater wingspan is less impacted as the figher wake is more localized. Further international flight rules stipulate that the faster and more maneuverable plane (fighter) MUST give way to the slower (E-3). >There's a bunch of problems with the Chinese claim that the EP-3 >made a sudden roll and thus caused the contact: Even if that were the case the fighers position was such that he would be invisible to the larger E-3. >- The photo evidence of the damage isn't consistent with running > into another airplane. The prop tips are munched, but the props > are still attached to the gearboxes and the gearboxes and engines > didn't depart the airframe. The damage is more consistent with > colliding with birds -- or debris. It was a close miss, likely the props did some nasty chewing on the fighter. Those mounts and gearboxes are very robust on that bird. >- The radome is missing. I'm at a loss to explain how the radome > got ripped off the aircraft by contact on the wing -- especially > given that the fuselage forward of the wing root doesn't appear > damaged. Flying peices from the contact could be a factor. >It looks more like the Fishbed was trying to bump the Aries (which >essentially consists of passing under the Aires with a delta of >about +200 knots and pulling vertical) and wasn't up to the task. >The empennage collided with the radome, peeled the radome and part of >the empennage off and the Aires in turn plowed through the debris field. Likely. One common maneuver to rattle the slower bird is pass from the low and behind and pull up and infront crossing the path of the slower aircraft. Mistiming can be very bad. >Like saying that _he_ gave the downed pilot permission to bail out? >Since when does wing give lead permission to do anything (the usual >job of wing is to tuck in tight, shut up and listen to guard) -- or >was the surviving pilot lead, in which case what was the wingman doing >in a position where the only way he could collide with the Aires >would have been if the Aires went into Beta thrust? Exactly. Inconsistant stories. Add to that the chinese pilots do not get the air time the US pilots do and have less proficientcy. Allison

23 years, 9 months

OT somewhat. China, our aircraft, delays.

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: THETechnoid(a)home.com <THETechnoid(a)home.com> >The operable variables are: Method of Propulsion - wind power stays on >course, motors maneuver. Size: The smaller vessel is generally the more >maneuverable and is obliged to do so. Very so for aircraft. it has more depth as there are blimps, choppers, sailplanes but the rule is basically the same everywhere. >There are other rules as well, but these two suit this situation very >nicely. Fast, jet powered fighter aircraft can and should avoid colliding >with butt slow prop-driven piglike aircraft. Really, that is the first >duty of any fighter pilot after taking off and before landing. The rest >is trying to SHOOT down the bad guys. Ramming them is not nearly so >effective, as our Chinese friends have learned. It's a result of serious pilot error on the part of the figher pilot. Allison

23 years, 9 months

Way OT (was RE: OT somewhat. China, our aircraft, delays.)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

>From: "Eric J. Korpela" <korpela(a)ellie.ssl.berkeley.edu> >To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:48 AM >Subject: Re: Way OT (was RE: OT somewhat. China, our aircraft, delays.) > > >> > - The radome is missing. I'm at a loss to explain how the radome >> > got ripped off the aircraft by contact on the wing -- especially >> > given that the fuselage forward of the wing root doesn't appear >> > damaged. >> >> I've assumed that the missing radome was part of the "landing >>preparations" if you know what I mean. Far from likely, the dome it self is just a RF transparent window and all the goodies, radar antenna and bits, are mounted to the aircraft. The seperation like for a contact would be clean as the dome is removeable with ease for maintenace on the equipment behind it. Besides the dome leaving would likely contact other parts of the plane on the way past doing significant damage. What I can't figure is why the figher pilot didn't punch out unless his path was such that his canopy was scraped off taking him with it. Allison

23 years, 9 months

goodbye / giveaway

by nemo＠net.house.cx

I've not been active on this list, but circumstances force my hand and I must depart. I also want to clear my rooms of stuff that's filling my place. I have a Tektronix 4012 terminal (vaguelly working - the screen lights up) to anyone who wants it and can pick it up. I'm in Canberra, Australia. I've got a few other items around that might be of interest to people. Some Xterminals (not actually 10 years old, but still older than most people want to know about) and WYSE terminals. (one that works, one that is probably fixable, and one that probably isn't) You'll have to email me directly if you're interested. <nemo(a)net.house.cx> cheers... .../Nemo

23 years, 9 months

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