On April 10, Carlos Murillo wrote:
> Sigh. I could not afford to pay a yearly Matlab license for a
> unix machine with personal money. I did manage to buy a Wintel license
> for personal use a couple years ago in a group purchase.
> And no, octave and Scilab are not yet up to the task.
How much are those Unix licenses these days?
> I do prefer unix for my numerics work whenever I have a choice.
> Still, my home PC is full of Win32 ports of Unix packages :-) .
> No msoffice or anything like that if I can avoid it.
Bravo! :-)
-Dave McGuire
> Does anyone happen to know the minimum version of VMS that will run on a
> VAXstation 4000? Either a VLC, m60, or m90.
I'm pretty certain the minimum for the 4000/60 is 5.5-2. I didn't get a
/90 until well after they were out, so I don't the minimium for that
and I've never seen a VLC.
Roger Ivie
ivie(a)cc.usu.edu
It's a bit further north than I would have preferred, but I
can't fault your reasoning...
And besides, I'm an old WPI alumnus (class of 77), so it'll
be a real nostalgia trip for me :-)
BTW, anyone else on the list an old WPI hacker (and when
I say "hacker", I'm referring to it's archaic meaning,
rather than it's current derogatory meaning...)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Claude.W [mailto:claudew@videotron.ca]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:21 PM
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Why Worcester was chosen for VCF East 1.0
>
>
> Hi all...
>
> Well...VCF east hey at Worcester,MA hey....hmmmm......
>
> Hey, it's even only a 6 hour drive from Montreal...!
>
> Ill be easy to spot : 6'4 with a tuque...
>
> Claude
> Canuk Computer Collector
> http://computer_collector.tripod.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com>
> To: Classic Computers Mailing List <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 3:07 AM
> Subject: Why Worcester was chosen for VCF East 1.0
>
>
> >
> > I've gotten some griping about my selection for the
> location of the first
> > VCF East.
> >
> > No doubt, a good majority of folks will be quite happy with
> the selection.
> > This is no accident. The site was chosen based on the
> demographics I
> > collected. Most of the attendees will be coming from
> Massachusetts and
> > surrounding areas.
> >
> > As with any sensible business decision, it was based on what will
> > hopefully bring as many attendees to the event, which in
> turn means I will
> > be able to recoup expenses and will therefore want to continue to do
> > Festivals on the east coast.
> >
> > I received over 150 responses to the VCF East survey. Here
> is a summary
> > of the results:
> >
> > This chart shows the number of responses received from each
> state, sorted
> > by number of attendees in descending order.
> >
> > State Count
> > ----- -----
> > MA 27
> > NY 15
> > PA 12
> > NH 8
> > MD 7
> > OH 5
> > NJ 4
> > FL 4
> > CT 3
> > VT 3
> > GA 3
> > RI 2
> > VA 2
> > NC 2
> > IN 2
> > IL 2
> > MN 2
> > ME 1
> > WV 1
> > MI 1
> > WI 1
> > IA 1
> > MO 1
> > TX 1
> >
> > - Nearly 25% of potential attendees will be coming from MA alone
> > - 40% of potential attendees will be coming from the New
> England area
> > - If you include NY, PA and NJ with New England, nearly 70%
> will be coming
> > from this combined northeast region
> >
> > There was also a strong desire to keep the event close to the Rhodes
> > Island Computer Museum and the Retro-Computing Society of
> Rhodes Island so
> > that tours to those facilities could be organized.
> Providence is only
> > about 45 minutes from Worcester. There are also several
> other museums
> > that I hope to get involved with the event, including the MIT and
> > Harvard museums and the Computer Museum in Boston.
> >
> > Worcester is still within only a few hours of where most of
> the potential
> > attendees will be coming from. I don't know how you east
> coast folks
> > perceive distance, but I've lived in California all my life
> and a 6-hour
> > drive from the San Francisco bay area to the Los Angeles
> area is no big
> > deal to me. I made the round-trip in one day a couple
> weekends ago to
> > pick up an old computer. Driving a couple to three hundred
> miles should
> > not be a major ordeal for most folks.
> >
> > So there you have it, the reasoning behind the selection of
> the location
> > for VCF East 1.0. I know it won't please everyone, but the
> unhappy folks
> > need to realize it has to be held where it makes the most sense.
> >
> > I really look forward to VCF East, and I hope you easterly
> folks do too :)
> >
> > Sellam Ismail
> Vintage Computer
> Festival
> >
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> >
> >
>
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --
Arthur C. Clark
And then there's the other view:
Any sufficiently low technology is indistinguishable from hard work.
Any sufficiently advanced bureaucracy is indistinguishable from
molasses.
Any sufficiently advanced card game is indistinguishable from magic.
Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from
technology.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a
rigged demo.
Any sufficiently complicated technology is indistinguishable from
bad karma.
Any sufficiently high technology is indistinguishable from
doubletalk.
No mine stolen from some other computer person.
Mike
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
Yesterday's post brought four CDs filled with TIFFs of PDP-11
(and related) prints. They're available at:
http://www.mainecoon.com/classiccmp
It's nothing more than a pile of directories and a boatload of files,
each of which is on the order of several megabytes. If you're planning
on pulling a bunch of these down it might be a good idea to contact me
and see if it isn't possible to deliver the stuff to you on CDs...
Cheers,
Chris.
--
Chris Kennedy
chris(a)mainecoon.com
http://www.mainecoon.com
PGP fingerprint: 4E99 10B6 7253 B048 6685 6CBC 55E1 20A3 108D AB97
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: HDOS 3.0
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:07:33 EDT
From: DocBogner(a)cs.com
To: knightstalkerbob(a)netscape.net
In a message dated 4/10/2001 8:15:53 AM Central Daylight Time,
knightstalkerbob(a)netscape.net writes:
<< How do I go about transferring from the H-89 to a PC? I know there used to
translator services, used one myself once in 85-86. Is there a software
package for the H89 or PC that will read the others format, or nul-modem the
two together? >>
Bob, it's just been too long for me to remember this offhand. I will have to
dig into some of my old HDOS notebooks. Meanwhile, please repost the above as
a message to me (or All) in the existing HDOS 3 message thread on our forum.
That will get some more replies from HDOS users whose memories are better
than mine.
Doc
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Gateway Performance 500 Piece 'o Crap, '98, 128meg, 20Gig, flatbed.
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Hmm. I've never found computers tedious. I also don't run
Windows. I think there's probably a connection there. :)
And no...nobody *NEEDS* to use Windows. I love getting into that
argument. "But I NEEEEEEED it!" My favorite response is usually
something like "you mean you'd be unemployed and destitute if this one
bad product from this one bad company didn't exist?"
That really pisses some people off. Others have gone and installed
decent OSs on their PeeCees that very day. :)
-Dave McGuire
On April 8, Chuck McManis wrote:
> I don't recall exactly when it was, but I not too long ago I found myself
> dealing with the "tediousness" of using a computer. To consider a computer
> tedious was, for me, such a shock that I had to ponder the implications of
> that. The result of that pondering was that for my tools, I needed them to
> work correctly and they rarely were, and getting them fixed was tedious.
> However I also realized that for the "PC" at least a lot of the wonder had
> gone out of computers. I remember clearly the FORTRAN printout that
> computed the impact point of a free falling object dropped from 5,000 feet
> in a uniform gravity gradient and a perfect vacuum :-) I printed x & y
> co-ordinates of the object for every tenth second and got 20 pages or so of
> numbers. That was WONDERful. Writing a PL/I program to use overstrikes to
> print multi-shaded histograms on a line printer attached to a 370 was
> pretty fun to.
>
> Figuring out what my graphics program on Win98 wasn't seeing mouse events
> was TEDIOUS.
>
> So much of my motivation is driven by the wonder of what the system can do
> with what it has that I find VAXen and PDP-11s much more impressive than
> 1.5Ghz Pentium IVs. Capturing the wonder is my secret ingredient to learning.
>
> --Chuck
>
>
Is this some place in Australia? Isn't that where Brisbane is located? I'm
not sure I know the abbreviations for all of the Australian states and
territories.
>Most importantly, are any interested list members in AZ (brisbane I =
>think was the city) and could thus do a look-see, and maybe organize =
>shipping, etc?
Mike
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
