>> > definition of "kid" = under age 18
>>
>> Wrong definition, I suspect :-) Especially if you ask my wife!
Probably
>> even more so if you ask some of my work colleagues about my collection.
>>
>>
>Reminds me of the old saying "Men are just boys... with more expensive
>toys". Certainly Fiona reckons that I need to grow up, playing with
>computers and bikes. I might just do that one day but yet, I am only 43.
I read a good Wired article, an interview with Arthur C. Clarke on the 25th
anniversary of 2001. He said he wanted his epitaph to be this:
"He never grew up; but he never stopped growing."
That sounds like a good life to me!
The full interview at: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1.03/clarke.html
makes a VERY interesting read, especially his comments on "reality"...
Also, to make this slightly on-topic, thanks to all who responded on my
Northstar keyboard problem. I am in the middle of selling my house and
buying a new one, and the last couple of storms up here in central
Massachusetts flooded my basement, so I have been cleaning up from that. I
will try things out, and let you all know what's up...
Rich B.
On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, bill claussen wrote:
> Very well stated and welcome to all that are interested in your given area!
To be serious (for once) I think it's terrific that "kids" are interested
in old computers. To show an interest in machines that in some cases
predate themselves shows a reverence and appreciation for computer
technology, and this is the type of person the world needs to continue
progress. Seriously. Back in the 50s the US was on such a push to
emphasize technology in schools, but nowadays we are teaching kids how to
be users and nothing more. I'm glad to see younger folks taking it upon
themselves to explore technology at a more fundamental level. These are
the ones who will become the great programmers and engineers of the
future.
One of the things I am doing to promote appreciation of old computers and
computer history amongst the younger generation is preparing a
mini-lecture on computer history that I plan to give at local schools (for
free of course). My idea is to show them how we got to where we are today
with computing technology, for example showing them an evolution of disk
drive technology by comparing a ZIP drive to a 3.5" to a 5.25" to an 8" to
paper tape to punch cards, etc. And actually bringing the drives in too!
It won't interest all of them, or even most of them, but the ones that
were waiting to discover computers will certainly "get it", and those are
the ones I want to reach.
Plus once I get them hooked I can then recruit them to do menial tasks for
the VCF Archives like cataloguing books and schlepping stuff around ;)
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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From: aergo <aergo(a)earthlink.net>
Subject: O.T. - Virus: FOOT-AND-MOUTH
Have a good week, everyone ! A. ;-)
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Subject: Virus: FOOT-AND-MOUTH
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FOOT-AND-MOUTH BELIEVED TO BE FIRST VIRUS
UNABLE TO SPREAD THROUGH MICROSOFT OUTLOOK
Researchers Shocked to Finally Find Virus That Email
App Doesn't Like
Atlanta, Ga. - Scientists at the Centers for Disease
Control and
Symantec's AntiVirus Research Center today confirmed
that foot-and-mouth
disease cannot be spread by Microsoft's Outlook email
application,
believed to be the first time the program has ever
failed to propagate a
major virus. "Frankly, we've never heard of a virus
that couldn't spread
through Microsoft Outlook, so our findings were, to say
the least,
unexpected," said Clive Sarnow, director of the CDC's
infectious disease
unit.
The study was immediately hailed by British officials,
who said it will
save millions of pounds and thousands of man hours. "Up
until now we have,
quite naturally, assumed that both foot-and-mouth and
mad cow were spread
by Microsoft Outlook," said Nick Brown, Britain's
Agriculture Minister.
"By eliminating it, we can focus our resources
elsewhere."
However, researchers in the Netherlands, where
foot-and-mouth has recently
appeared, said they are not yet prepared to disqualify
Outlook, which has
been the progenitor of viruses such as "I Love You,"
"Bubbleboy," "Anna
Kournikova," and "Naked Wife," to name but a few. Said
Nils Overmars,
director of the Molecular Virology Lab at Leiden
University: "It's not
that we don't trust the research, it's just that as
scientists, we are
trained to be skeptical of any finding that flies in
the face of
established truth. And this one flies in the face like
a blind drunk
sparrow."
Executives at Microsoft, meanwhile, were equally
skeptical, insisting that
Outlook's patented Virus Transfer Protocol (VTP) has
proven virtually
pervious to any virus. The company, however, will issue
a free VTP patch
if it turns out the application is not vulnerable to
foot-and-mouth. Such
an admission would be embarrassing for the software
giant, but Symantec
virologist Ariel Kologne insisted that no one is more
humiliated by the
study than she is.
"Only last week, I had a reporter ask if the
foot-and-mouth virus spreads
through Microsoft Outlook, and I told him, "'Doesn't
everything?'" she
recalled. "Who would've thought?"
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lgwalker(a)look.ca
Tony is (almost) correct: ESDI drives use a binary select scheme similar to
SCSI. The three select bits are decoded to enable drives 1,2,...,6,7.
There's no "drive 0" because that corresponds to the "deselect all drives"
condition.
However, some PC controllers only support two drives (another legacy of the
IBM PC BIOS) and of course they use drives 1 and 2. Therefore, some PC
manufacturers suggest using a cable with a twist, to swap pins 26 and 28
(DS1 and DS2), leaving the select jumpers the same on both drives. I've
never seen a cable with a twist on a "real" ESDI system.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
In a message dated 4/8/01 5:01:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, foo(a)siconic.com
writes:
<< Ah yes, to be young and naive again :)
The one thing you can never have enough of is time. Use it wisely to
avoid regrets later on in life (moral of the story: get a <girl/boy>friend
and a life now...they will become equally as important later on).
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
Festival
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http://www.vintage.org
>>
heh
it was a joke dude....but oh well....i used to have one...just in between
now...
The first computer I had close-up experience with was
a Burroughs E6000. This was a low-end business system
that my grandfather's business used for doing payroll.
After the system was retired it was stuck in a garage.
About 20 years ago I claimed the unit but given that I
don't have the space all I took was the schematics and
build list (the unit is still in the garage waiting for
me to do whatever with it).
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
I have a Pro380 with a bad mainboard. I've got someone
>from this list checking to see if he has a spare, but I'd
like to see if anyone else has a spare for sale, just in
case.
Thanks.
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
In a message dated 04/07/2001 10:19:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Demon02554(a)aol.com writes:
> just wondering....am i the only kid on this list?
>
> Robert Cobbins
Define "kid."
Glen
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