test-drb November 2001

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Scrapping hardware to get it off the books (RE: Is it a Lisa or Mac XL?!)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > My only concern is that I might get asked "are you the guy in > > the red Audi who was diggint through my stuff?" > > > > ;) > > > > -dq > > paint the car! > :) Good suggestion... I never wanted to own a red car, red paint adds 20mph to the apparant land speed... -dq

23 years

Scrapping hardware to get it off the books (RE: Is it a Lisa or Mac XL?!)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > > Unless he chases you away with a shotgun loaded with rock salt. That > > > would hurt. > > > > My only concern is that I might get asked "are you the guy in > > the red Audi who was diggint through my stuff?" > > Take the bus. HAHAHHAHAHA! Louisville has the Transit Authority of River City (TARC), and a few busses and shuttles come over across the Ohio to Indiana, but no way is it anything like you can stand on a corner, go somewhere in Indiana, get off, do something, etc. There isn't even a bus route I can take home from work (though there is one I can take *to* work)... -dq

23 years

Macintosh

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Douglas Quebbeman skrev: > > >> Could someone tell me what the last version of Macintosh System to run on > >> 68K machines was? Where can I get a copy? > > >That would be System 6.0.8 > > Such utter rubbish. Version 8 was the last major release for 68k machines, > though it usually would only install on '040 machines. The latency to Holland is even worse than thw camel-train... -dq

23 years

List Really Does Look Like It's Been Breached

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Ok, I got plain-old SPAM (well, it was HTML, but seemingly free of virii) this morning with these headers: ============================================================ Received: from opal.tseinc.com ([209.83.143.19]) by jeffserver.tegjeff.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id X671RYZ5; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 02:08:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by opal.tseinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA05267 for classiccmp-classiccmp-org-outgoing; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 00:46:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org) X-Authentication-Warning: opal.tseinc.com: majordom set sender to owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org using -f Received: from 3w-smtp-ad.korea.com ([211.109.1.114]) by opal.tseinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA05262 for <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 00:46:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from fortune(a)12ji.com) Received: from 3w-pop3-ai.korea.com ([172.31.1.12]) by 3w-smtp-ad.korea.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3651); Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:45:17 +0900 Received: from 3w-pop3-ai.korea.com ([127.0.0.1]) by 3w-pop3-ai.korea.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3651); Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:45:12 +0900 Received: from 211.109.1.13 by 3w-pop3-ai.korea.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:44:54 +0900 Received: from 12ji.com ([211.186.123.108]) by 3w-pop3-ac.korea.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3651); Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:44:03 +0900 Message-ID: <3222855-220011153063355370(a)12ji.com> X-EM-Version: 6, 0, 1, 0 X-EM-Registration: #00F06206106618006920 X-Priority: 3 To: "12ji" <fortune(a)12ji.com> From: "Anne Collins" <fortune(a)12ji.com> Subject: Your fortune of the week Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:33:55 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2001 06:44:03.0482 (UTC) FILETIME=[666A47A0:01C1796A] Sender: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8" ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8-- ============================================================ We need a moderation mechanism of some kind. The newsgroup alt.sysadmin.recovery requires the presence of a special header in order for the post to appear. Can we do that for the list, or will the SPAMbots just walk around that Maginot line? -dq

23 years

Is it a Lisa or Mac XL?!

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>I understand discontinuing a product but could never quite figure out why >you would actually destroy equipment. I mean what is the point? I suppose this was apple logic, they wanted you to buy something OTHER than the lisa, so they had the choice of sell off/give away all the discontinued lisa's (they didn't want them being used, so that was out of the question)... or junk them. If you just normal junk them (haul them to the scrap yard and dump them in a pile), you risk the very real possibility that the scrapper will salvage them and sell them off (makes sense, they ARE in the buying and selling scrap business)... which again, means they would be in the market, something apple didn't want... only NOW they would be in the market and apple didn't get a buck. So by destroying them beyond hope... they remove them from the market 100%. I personally think this is stupid, but hey, I don't run apple, and they seem to have their own form of logic. And then there is always the chance it was just a Jobs thing. IIRC, he was more or less in charge when this was done, and he worked more on the mac then the lisa (even though, I think the original lisa specs were his idea)... so to Jobs and the ever expanding ego, he wanted to rub salt in the wounds of the Lisa team, by not only showing that the lisa didn't sell as well... but that thousands of unsold ones were turned into dust at apple's expense. I that logic is why it might be a while before Apple comes out with anything that might resemble a Newton (since the Newton was Scully's baby, and Scully was in charge when Jobs was outsted). I don't think it was a co-incidence that the first thing Jobs did on his return was violently kill off the newton... and I think it will be a while before his ego will allow a return of a similar product... the iPod is probably paving the way to erase the Newton memory, so when one DOES come out, it will be seen as an advanced iPod, not as a Newton II. Just my 2 cents -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years

Concise list of different Mac models

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Jeff Hellige wrote: > > > Oooops...I know, I shouldn't reply to myself but the above link > > should be: > > > > http://www.applespec.com/ > > > > The downloadable versions, plus mirrors, are located there. > > > Thnaks that's what I needed. I did not realize that the data-base was > downloadable. Nice setup. Anyways, I exported as csv and used excel to > make up an 8 page list. Still bigger that I want but I can work on that I didn't realize it was online! The only version I've seen was distributed on MacAddict disks in the last few years; ISTR it's a FileMaker application... which means it's probably a Fourth Dimension app.. -dq

23 years

CompatiCard I manual

by donm＠cts.com

Can anyone point me at a scan of the manual for the Compaticard I (or even II). I thought that I was smart enough to make a Xerox copy when I had one, but if so I am not smart enough to find it :( Thanks. - don

23 years

Any value to anyone

by mythtech＠Mac.com

Are these of any value to anyone (ie: does anyone want these, sale/trade/pickup whatever): Intel branded 386 (looks like an AT clone like case). 8mb RAM, 40m IDE HD, 5.25 HD FDD, 3.5 HD FDD, VGA, 1 Parallel, 2 Serial, AT Keyboard, ISA slots. IBM 5160, 5.25 FDD, 3.5 FDD (both DD?), 20mb XT Hard Drive, CGA, 1 parallel, 1 serial. Neither are tested yet, I picked them up out of the garbage last night. I scored about a dozen machines in various condition. These are the only two of interest so far. (Others have been partially canabalized generic 286's, 386's and 486's... now they are totally canabalized, and the carcases have been dumpstered). If someone has some interest, I would be willing to test these machines, otherwise they too will be stripped untested and unneeded/wanted parts will be dumped. Also, I have an IBM ProPrinter, and some Epson cut sheet dot matrix printer thing, both also untested if anyone has an interest (at least these will eventually be tested and either shelved/traded/given away if working, or pitched if dead) I'll hold them until tomorrow (friday), but then they get stripped. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years

Your fortune of the week

by fortune＠12ji.com

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Scrapping hardware to get it off the books (RE: Is it a Lisa or Mac XL?!)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I doubt it. There may be very few contracts that require this sort of > thing, but honestly, if the company scrapping the equipment was that worried > about it, they'd scrap it themselves. I have heard that NSA does this, and > that further they (to paraphrase) "slag their disks and post armed guards > around the slag." it's true; a friend has a CDC 1700, formerly NSA property... and nothing that could hold software was part of the deal (although I think he got to keep the core). -dq

23 years

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test-drb November 2001