test-drb November 2001

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Scrapping hardware to get it off the books (RE: Is it a Lisa or Mac XL?!)

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! I saw ... a SuperMac monitor, smaller than the 19inch ! Radius I've got, but the bug mentioned a "huge" one in back. Really? Any idea if they work, and what shipping to CT (06520-9040) might be? ! I have ... and/or the split keyboard. Cool. That is a neat piece of Mac history. How much? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

22 years, 5 months

Any value to anyone

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>If it is an Intel 301 it is worth saving. It came from Intel at a time they >considered trying to break into the PC market. It is a classic machine in >it's own right. They gave up the PC market right after this, it is a one >and >only. It was also very well made. There is no front label on it, but on the back it has an Intel sticker. The only thing I can find to really ID it is a Product Number (PS302254F4). There are some serial numbers, but nothing else very useful as far as what it is. Maybe based on that prod# it is a "302"? (if there is such a thing). Alas, classic or not, I am not a huge PC collector. I am into Apple stuff, I only really wanted my XT because I had an IBM PC, which is the first "PC" by them, and I had an AT, so the XT just rounded it out... I killed my XT/286, so I lost that already :-( So an "Intel" unit doesn't have any value to me. If however it is a "classic" that might be of interest to others, I might consider shelving it for a future swap meet (if one ever occurs up my direction). But that will all depend on how much shelf space I have to spare. Most likely however, if there are no takers on this list, I will strip it for parts, and pitch the carcass. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 5 months

Scrap hardware finds

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Hey, I might be interested in the Mac stuff too. Maybe I'll ask Dan Sch.... to hot-rod it for me ;) --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Chris [mailto:mythtech@Mac.com] ! Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 3:02 PM ! To: Classic Computer ! Subject: RE: Scrapping hardware to get it off the books (RE: Is it a ! Lisa or Mac XL?!) ! ! ! >I'll not likely ! >mention the plethora of Apple // and Mac stuff, since ! >it's the same stuff I hear about being available everywhere. ! ! If you could give a cursory mention (at least to me) about ! the gist of ! the stuff, that would be great. (I don't expect a full mention, but ! concepts like "there were some classic Macs there, and some ! boards for ! Apple IIs that look like serial cards"). ! ! Just so I have an idea, as it seems, around here, no one has ! old Apple or ! Mac parts (the machines are available out the ass, but the extras are ! slim pickings). ! ! Thanks ! ! -chris ! ! <http://www.mythtech.net> !

22 years, 5 months

Any value to anyone

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 11/30/01 10:32:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, mythtech(a)Mac.com writes: > The Intel branded 386 is still up for grabs. It is too far away for me. If it is an Intel 301 it is worth saving. It came from Intel at a time they considered trying to break into the PC market. It is a classic machine in it's own right. They gave up the PC market right after this, it is a one and only. It was also very well made. Paxton Astoria, OR

22 years, 5 months

Scrapping hardware to get it off the books (RE: Is it a Lisa or Mac XL?!)

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>I'll not likely >mention the plethora of Apple // and Mac stuff, since >it's the same stuff I hear about being available everywhere. If you could give a cursory mention (at least to me) about the gist of the stuff, that would be great. (I don't expect a full mention, but concepts like "there were some classic Macs there, and some boards for Apple IIs that look like serial cards"). Just so I have an idea, as it seems, around here, no one has old Apple or Mac parts (the machines are available out the ass, but the extras are slim pickings). Thanks -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 5 months

Antron MST300 (was:RE: Up for Grabs: Intel ICE boxs and pods )

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> If you mean Atron then yes I've heard of them. if fact, I was just > searching for info on them this morning. I have two full length IBM PC > style cards that are both marked "Atron", one plugs into an 8 bit ISA slot > and the other plugs into a 16-bit ISA slot. The cards have a ribbon cable > that connects them together at the top. One is marked "Master Break Trace" > and the other is marked "Slave Break Trace". (looks like they're for an > emulator). Both boards have a large male 3U type connector on the outside. This looks like a later version of the Atron Debugger I used in a Zenith Z-150 (I still have the Zenith). It had its own debugger software, it plugged into an available slot, had a ribbon cable that plugged into the 8088, and a place to put the 8088 you removed >from the CPU board (the 8088 was on a separate CPU board in the Zenith). I'll have to go bug my former employer (15 year ago) and see if he still has it and wants to let go of it, along with perhaps the Zilog REO Development System and the IMSAI 8080 he had...). -dq

22 years, 5 months

History of Computing exam question

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I would add: HP2000 timeshare system..widely used, often provided the > first exposure to computers that got many of us started in the field. I *think* I played my first computer game on the HP2000 (said game paper tape currently being in Jay West's hands for his HP2000). While I'll likely not ever find one, I'm axious to see a more fully-fleshed-out simulator (unless DIMH will run 2000 Access, in which case, I just need 2000 Access). -dq

22 years, 5 months

Scrapping hardware to get it off the books (RE: Is it a Lisa or Mac XL?!)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >Should I even bother going back and asking to see the stuff > >in the yard? Or, has this firm agreed not to resell anything > >(I'm kinda assuming that what's true for this guy is industry > >standard). > Well, I went by today to talk to the proprietor... Yes, they will be happy to sell the stuff they've got, if I see anything I want. The big, interesting box I saw from the street appears to be a UniSys terminal concentrator. At least it's full of boards with DB9's on it, so it somewhat reminded me of my Prime terminal concentrator. I did specifically ask about "boxes with switches and lights" and they indicated they had seen such things in the past. They further ventured that "no one is interested in that stuff" so I think I've got a live one, boyr and girls... If anyone's looking for a Unisys terminal concentrator or if you thknk that vox is something you want whatever it is, let me know. I'll be visiting them regularly to see what's new and what I missed on my brief visit. I'll post anything that seems worth posting. I'll not likely mention the plethora of Apple // and Mac stuff, since it's the same stuff I hear about being available everywhere. Regards, -dq

22 years, 5 months

Scrapping hardware to get it off the book

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 11/30/01 6:20:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, rigdonj(a)intellistar.net writes: > must have cost them 50 times that to ship them back from Germany The BIIN computers we scrapped were originally air freighted from Germany. We opend the crates and took them apart. They were brand new, but Intel and Siemens didn't want them out there. This was a certified destruction contract otherwise I would have kept one. I already had all the SW. I bet the cost to scrap ratio was more like 5000 to 1. Siemens lost a bunch of money on that project. (Intel owned 5% and Siemens 95%.) Paxton Astoria, OR

22 years, 5 months

Antron MST300 (was:RE: Up for Grabs: Intel ICE boxs and pods)

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

If you mean Atron then yes I've heard of them. if fact, I was just searching for info on them this morning. I have two full length IBM PC style cards that are both marked "Atron", one plugs into an 8 bit ISA slot and the other plugs into a 16-bit ISA slot. The cards have a ribbon cable that connects them together at the top. One is marked "Master Break Trace" and the other is marked "Slave Break Trace". (looks like they're for an emulator). Both boards have a large male 3U type connector on the outside. I've posted a picture at <http://www.intellistar.net/~rigdonj/ebay/boards.jpg>. FWIW I pulled these out of an old 286 Compaq Deskpro. I wanted to get the drive but it was already gone :-( Joe At 05:13 PM 11/30/01 -0000, you wrote: >Speaking of chip testers has anyone come across the Antron company and their >testing equipment? Antron are still going and still selling test kit to the >likes of Compaq, but since they didn't reply to my email I'm assuming they >had no old documentation. > >Basically the MST300 is a 386 based PC with 2 extra ISA cards that interface >with the testing 'pods'. I've got pods for the 8086, 80286, 80386SX and DX, >Moto 68K and I'm still not sure what they were supposed to be testing! > >I'll post pix on Binary Dinosaurs when I get 'em taken :) > >-- >Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd >e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com >w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com >w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum) >

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