test-drb November 2000

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507 discussions

PDP-10 Emulator (was: Re: MULTICS Installation, Halifax)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 02:30:17PM -0500, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > > I'm still waiting to get my hands on one of these mythical PDP-10 > > emulators... I want my own DECSYSTEM-10, even if it's really > > running on an old Mac. > > > > Supposedly, KLH's emulator will be released in binary form "in the > near future", i.e. when he gets time. This information is third-hand, > so don't hold your breath. > > I don't know anything about the status of Stu Grossman's emulator. > > Daniel Seagraves is actively working on his KL-10 emulator > called "e10", at http://bony.umtec.com/pdp10.html. Yeah, he said it's just not ready yet... > Megan Gentry's early emulator work seems to have disappeared, maybe > it's just no longer accessable online. Megan has the real thing, tho, doesn't she? > Finally, our last best hope comes from Timothy Stark, who's been > working like a ferret on meth to get his KS10 emulator out the door. > He's been teasing us with the screendumps of his emulator in progress, > and it boots and runs TOPS-10 promisingly well. The first source > release should be within the very, very near future, within a few > weeks or so. I'm sure someone will let the group know when it hits > the streets, so we can all be beta testers! Cool... too bad, the only DECtape I had was rented; wish I'd bought it. Among other things, I had Richard Greenblatt's Makhak chess program. Is that still around? IIRC, it played about a 1600 point game, perfect for lousy-chess-player me. -dq

23 years, 8 months

IBM 5160 saved from the trash.

by ncherry＠home.net

I recently found an IBM 5160 in the trash, it has no keyboard (but I have a spare). It's almost all original! It has 256K on the motherboard, an AST Clock/Serial/384K RAM board (I think it has a game port too). It has the 6845 full length Black & White/Parallel board, a Hayes full length 1200B modem card (Z8 processor), a Xebec hard drive interface card, an internal/external floppy card, the 360K floppy and a Seagate ST-412 (Noisy). I'll try to recover the data off the hard disk, I have no idea how I'm going to deal with the drive issue (I may have an 8 bit IDE card and small drive). I am really tempted to put CP/M-86 on here. I've never used that OS before and it would be more interesting than PC-DOS 2.0/2.11. I haven't completed a full check out of the machine yet but I have enough spare boards that I should be able to bring this up. I even have a spare IBM PC (not XT) MB w/cassette interface. :-) -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry(a)home.net http://members.home.net/ncherry (Text only) http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/lightsey/52 (Graphics) http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/ (SourceForge)

23 years, 8 months

DECsystem 5400 and NetBSD?????

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On November 3, Matt Thomas wrote: > Almost anything can be coerced into running NetBSD. :) Ok, Matt. :) You've just uttered the perfect lead-in for what I've been planning to say here for a few days now: I've got a big beefy pmax machine available...a DECsystem 5810. It's in a chassis very similar (identical?) to that of a VAX 6000, with similar power requirements. It has one processor (third digit in the model number) and a LOT (I don't remember how much exactly) of RAM. It has a large XMI backplane plus a BI bus. There are two or three XMI-based SDI controllers, in addition to a plain old KDB50 in the BI bus. There are no disks with the system, but if you're starving for SDI disks I can throw in a couple of RA90s. It has a TK70 also. There are other goodies in the BI bus...if anyone *really* wants me to I'll go out to the warehouse and look, but that will take some effort. The machine is very clean and in near perfect physical and cosmetic condition. It ran fine about two years ago when it was last powered up. I paid real $$$ for it 2.5 years ago, but I'm willing to let it go for a case of Dr. Pepper to a person who can convince me that they won't scrap it. It will need to be picked up in Laurel, Maryland, which is right off of Route 95 between Washington DC and Baltimore. There is a forklift available at the pickup point, and I can get a few guys together to help heft it, but after that you're on your own. This is a really cool machine and I'd like to see it go to a good home. I realize it's big and a pain to move, but I do hope that anyone so inclined will give it some thought. -Dave McGuire

23 years, 8 months

FW: [HeathKit] HERO Robots for sale

by Budyzona16＠yahoo.com

hi, i am wondering if you could ive me any advice where to find the HERO robot 2000 or Hero robot 1 thanks, _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

23 years, 8 months

ZCPR & Other CP/M Extensions (Was: RE: CP/M 1.3 memory requirement)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> > Great. I'm looking forward to getting them. I haven't found anything >that can read my SB-180 disks so I hven't been able to transfer the ZCPR to >anything else yet. I think it would be cool to get it running on a PC! SB180 disks should read using standard PC FDC and the correct driver. The problem is they did some weird sector layout but, the SB180 does use a PC compatable controller (765 core). I can read my SB180 disks on the Kaypro using 96tpi drives. It may be the disks you have are 48 tpi or they can be 96tpi (user option). I've migrated mine to 3.5" drives. > I stuck out. I looked through my ZCPR docs and book but none of them >tell what the differences are between ZCPR3 and ZCPR 2.2. "ZCPR, The >Manual" only gives the differences between ZCPR3 and CP/M 2.2. I don't >know anything about the earlier versions of ZCPR so I guess I'm no help. No real difference for the most part. ZCPR3 improved the install process and added a few utilities. Allison

23 years, 8 months

MULTICS Installation, Halifax

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I've gotten mail from the guy who is supervising the > > decommisioning of the Canadian DND Multics System at > > Halifax. Not much new, but it's a little clearer in > > that all someone needs to do is attend the auction > > and buy it and bring it home on a truck. At least I > > doubt any "schools" will bid on this, if they do, > > they'd have their hands full. > > I would sell my MSFT stock for this system 8-) however it is no clear, > at least not to me, if you will get also the tapes and some bootable > disks in order to run the whole system or you will end up with just > a bunch of GE hardware. You would not be ending up with GE hardware. While the Level 68 (6180) system Honeywell built carried over some features from the GE635/645, it had quite a bit of new stuff that wasn't in the 645. For example, rings were implemented in software in the GE645 version of Multics. The Honeywell 6180 put them in hardware. Additionally, this is not a Honeywell 6180 being offered, but a DPS-8/M. If you contact Mr. Renshaw, he may be able to answer the question about a set of coldstart tapes for the machine. If not, Perigon Systems (the "last" Multics) would be able to supply them. The trick is, for how much? regards, -dq

23 years, 8 months

DILOG DQ-256 Docs

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Gang-- Does anyone out there have the docs for the DQ-256 SMD q-bus controller? I need this to set mine up. Thanks Jeff ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

23 years, 8 months

Heathkit EC-1

by allain＠panix.com

>If you have an idea of it's worth .... either to a collector or as a >parts unit please email me at badger(a)vbe.com Here's some free eBay research on the subject. Their prices tend to be the highest possible. John A. Heathkit EC-1 computer OLD RARE http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=99004567 sold $348.33 8 bids Heathkit EC-1, the 1950's computer with tubes http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=241661976 sold $688.50 37 bids Heathkit 1957 ANALOG COMPUTER Manual Set NEW! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=388837376 sold $202.49 15 bids

23 years, 8 months

IBM P70

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

I found a rather interesting machine today at a local thrift store. It is an IBM PS/2 Model P70. Normally I don't pick up IBM PC's or clones, but this has the following: - luggable, roughly the size of a large breifcase - 80386 running at 20mhz - red gas-plasma VGA display - one 16-bit MCA and one 32-bit MCA expansion slot - 120meg IBM ESDI hard disk - 4meg RAM - parallel, serial, PS/2 mouse, VGA, and unknown HDI-30 connector on the rear. Unfortunately, it lacks it's keyboard, which isn't connected by way of the standard PS/2 connector. It won't boot past the memory test due to the lack of keyboard and it gives me POST error codes of 301, 162 and 163 on the screen, as well as beeps twice. Does anyone know what the square 30pin connector on the rear panel is? It reminds me of the HDI-30 SCSI connector found on some Powerbooks. I picked it up because I thought a portable Microchannel machine with a gas-plasma VGA screen was pretty interesting. Not to mention it's the only MCA machine I have. Jeff -- Power Computing PowerCurve, 400mhz G3, Mac OS 9.0.4 Collector of Classic Microcomputers and Video Game Systems: http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757

23 years, 8 months

CP/M 1.3 memory requirement

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> > First of all, Win 3.1 runs on top of DOS. It's not a replacement >command processor. Second, ZCPR is mot a GUI and Windows is. BIG difference. Your being pandantic. Forgetit, the point is long lost. >>be replaced with anything. For example CONIX is one that can be run over >>CCP for a unix like command line. > > Agreed. Actually conix is a bit weird but handy. runs nice on cp/m3 too. Allison

23 years, 8 months

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