test-drb September 1999

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Reading TRS-80 discs (was RE: Archiving old discs...)

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>> Will support single density / FM: >> >> NS PC87306 Super I/O >> SMC FDC37C65 >> SMC FDC37C78 >> Most SMC Super I/O chips >> >> Will NOT support single density / FM: >> >> NS 8473 >> NS PC87332* Super I/O >> NS PC97307* Super I/O >> WD FDC37C65 >> Most (if not all) Intel parts >> Any Winbond part >> Any UMC part >Totally incorrect, all support SD *IF* software and external data >seperators/clocks are correct. He's specifically talking about "everything on one" FDC's, where there is no external data separator/clock - it's all on the one chip. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

25 years, 3 months

Why is the Coleco Adam so popular?

by DD950＠prodigy.net

-----Original Message----- From: Aaron Christopher Finney <af-list(a)lafleur.wfi-inc.com> >This is interesting: call the 800 number from the sticker on the bottom of >a Colecovision/Adam. It's now a company called "Adam's House" who are more >than happy to mail you out a catalog You don't have to call!!! they are now on the Web at http://www.flash.net/~coleco/start.htm . Scary, as you could not even access the graphic web with one. You can be glad you waited as a Coleco Adam can now be had it appears for about $59.95!! These appear to be for still new equipment. Reading the FAQ it appears Adam House bought out the inventory in 1985 from the Coleco bankruptcy? Aaron, How old are you or that VW van anyway? I have a 1977. Up for a road trip? Regards, Jim Rossbach, Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club Web Ring, www.TonkinYachts.cjb.net What If The Hokey Pokey Is Really What It's All About?

25 years, 3 months

HP IC numbers was:Re: Britain is Great (Back from the Island)

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 19:03:30 +0100 (BST) ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) writes: > Other manufacturers had similar number schemes. IBM have used > standard chips (TTL, etc) with just IBM part numbers on them. ICL had a 2 or > 3 character code on some of their standard TTL (etc) chips -- I > started compiling a list of those as well as they turn up in UK PERQs. > > The one I would love to get an equivalents list for is Xerox. Xerox > D-machines have what are obviously TTL chips with only house numbers > on them. I have never seen any equivalents list or dual-marked ICs, > though, which makes fixing these machines a little harder. Stuff made by Motorola's COMM group was the same way. WHen I left that organization in 1986, I took with me a table cross-referencing commonly used chips with their Motorola Part Numbers. Very useful, if you deal with alot with their old (read: mid-80's) radios, consoles, and computer-ish things. Jeff ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

25 years, 3 months

Expiration dates for computers? (was Re: Unopened classic... )

by morrison＠t-iii.com

Best Used By : After almost everyone had discarded them, Rad Shack dumped all software, and the repair techs shook their heads when they saw one come into the repair depot. Neil Morrison email:morrison@t-iii.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Smith [SMTP:eric@brouhaha.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 11:59 AM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: Expiration dates for computers? (was Re: Unopened > classic...) > > morrison(a)t-iii.com wrote: > > IMHO, the best possible use for a Mod II/12 and esp. for the external > floppy > > drive box, would be to make computer thieves have to carry it repeatedly > up > > and down the stairs of a multi story building! Then maybe they'd keep > their > > hands off other peoples property. (Some idiot actually STOLE one of > these, > > way past it's useful date!!!) > > Hmmm... I just bought a couple of Model IIs from someone a few months > ago. > I hadn't realized that they were past the "best used by" date, since I > didn't see one stamped on it anywhere. :-)

25 years, 3 months

Why is the Coleco Adam so damn popular?

by DD950＠prodigy.net

-----Original Message----- From: Charles E. Fox <foxvideo(a)wincom.net> > I think it is human sympathy for an underdog. I'm told the reason people >AT FIRST bought the VW Beetle was because it was so homely. (Don't shoot, I >had one in 1956.) > > Regards > Charlie Fox > If that is it, then it would be an interesting ploy for a marketing department. Although, I took such a course at the local community college once and we discussed the COORS beer underdog marketing campaign of the early and mid 70's. Seems they successfully exploited the underdog thing some felt. Yes, everybody laughed at the Beetle, and bought one. Whatever, it is amazing at all the Web sites and new equipment for sell on the Web for the Coleco Adam. I paid $800 for mine in May 1984 and that was/is not really that cheap. There is not that much excitement left for Coleco's Cabbage Patch Dolls of that time. Those dolls were making headlines back then. Thanks for the input, Jim Rossbach, Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club, www.TonkinYachts.cjb.net

25 years, 3 months

IBM magcard typewriter cards

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

IBM magcard typewriter IBM MagCard II typewriter introduced by IBM in 1973. The cards that look like a magnetic version of an 026/029 punch card were >from a IBM Selectric typewriter with a adjacent floor stand unit that could read/write the cards and print out what was stored on them. I think they were called IBM magcards. I saw them in use in 1974-1976. The floor unit was about 1 foot wide and 4 feet tall with a slot in the front of the unit. At one of my first jobs all of the standard canned pathology reports were stored on magcards. The pathologist would dictate reports by indicating a series of standard report text to use with any additional comments manually added at the end. The typist would feed in the correct cards as indicated. Great productivity and spelling accuracy tool. Later I saw one in the EE department at the University of Missouri-Columbia. Some of the typists could type faster that the machine under magcard control. Occasionally the engineering secretary could be seen sitting in front of the typewriter as it ran without any of her fingers touching the keys. It was great for stored forms and for editing and retyping grant applications. They had little sleeves for them where they indicated the topic or subject stored on the card. mike mcfadden Computer=computing device that can run for a year without crashing.

25 years, 3 months

Unopened classic...

by morrison＠t-iii.com

IMHO, the best possible use for a Mod II/12 and esp. for the external floppy drive box, would be to make computer thieves have to carry it repeatedly up and down the stairs of a multi story building! Then maybe they'd keep their hands off other peoples property. (Some idiot actually STOLE one of these, way past it's useful date!!!) Neil Morrison email:morrison@t-iii.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim [SMTP:DD950@prodigy.net] > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 9:38 AM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: Re: Unopened classic... > > It would be interesting to find out what something like that would bring > on > eBay. You could list it with a very high reserve that would most likely > never be met, just to see what something like that is now worth. > > We might be pleasantly surprised, or then again, we might find out that > most > people do not share our passion for old computers and you have only an > interesting box of old stuff. You pay shipping, :-( > > Anyway, keep us informed. > > Jim Rossbach, Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club Web Ring, www.TonkinYachts.cjb.net > > God Made Us Sisters and Brothers, Prozac Made Us Friends > > -----Original Message----- > From: Arfon Gryffydd <arfonrg(a)texas.net> > > > >Well, I have decided to let it be for now. I am worried that there might > be > >critters (bugs) in there (through the hand-holes). I don't want to put > it > >on eBay because I am not out to make $$$. > > > >All I need to find is a 3x3x3 glass box and a tank of nitrogen. (And a > >borescope so I can look at it). > > >

25 years, 3 months

Reading TRS-80 discs (was RE: Archiving old discs...)

by morrison＠t-iii.com

These were made for the Model I in SD. They are flippy disks, with the active part of the game (recorded with track order backwards as I recall) on one side. I know the Coco supports SD, but most IBM PC's don't AFAIK. Neil Morrison email:morrison@t-iii.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Ethan Dicks [SMTP:ethan_dicks@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 10:55 AM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: Reading TRS-80 discs (was RE: Archiving old discs...) > > > > --- morrison(a)t-iii.com wrote: > > If the TRS-80 disks are DD you can usually read them OK, but SD needs > some > > other computer (Model I, III, 4, Coco etc.) > > Hmm... I've got an ancient ORIGINAL of Zork I (published by Personal > Software) > I've wanted to back this thing up for years so I can see which data file > is on > it, but I've never owned anything that can read it. Is it likely to be > SD? > What kind of non-period hardware can read this? If need be, I could even > hook up a 5.25" disk to my Amiga and get funky with that. > > Thanks, > > -ethan > > === > Infinet has been sold. The domain is going away in February. > Please send all replies to > > erd(a)iname.com > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

25 years, 3 months

Everyone, ignore my last post.

by arfonrg＠texas.net

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25 years, 3 months

Need ID for IBM Cards

by wsmith＠gj.com

I was just going through a box of old files (circa 1970) that my office is throwing out and I found four cards that I need an ID on. They are the same size and shape as a standard puch card, but appear to be made of some sort of magnetic media. They are approximately the color of standard magnetic cassette tape on one side, and nearly black on the other. Each card has "IBM" printed on it in white with a direction arrow next to it in one corner of the card directly opposite the notch. In the corner with the notch there are two groups of 3 digits, also in white. The cards have what appear to be track marks on them in three parallel rows on the horizontal, as if fed through a reader. Thanks. If it would be useful I post a scan of one of these.

25 years, 3 months

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test-drb September 1999