In a message dated 9/13/99 11:17:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mikeford(a)socal.rr.com writes:
> >
> > I would like to run 5 1/4 floppies on an older laptop. Can anyone
> >recommend a laptop that had this size drive? Or which older laptops had
> >ports for 5 1/4 external floppie drives? sring(a)uslink.net
> >
> >
> >
>
> IBM 5140?
Unfortunately, the 5140 (convertible) doesnt support 5.25 drives unless
someone's hacked one on. Now, if you had a 5155 you could have one 3.5 and
one 5.25 as long as you run dos 3.3 or higher.
-->this message printed on recycled disk space.
visit the computers of yesteryear at:
http://members.aol.com/suprdave/classiccmp/museum.htm
Sorry for the previous post, it got away from me before I was finished :-(
This might be a bit off of at least the current topics, but probably the best place to ask this question.
I have to admit I bought one of the Coleco Adam computers in the summer of 1984 (The Adam bomb). I soon found that it really didn't work and like most I returned it to Toys-R-Us for a refund.
I bought a KayPro 2X then and was very happy with it. I used the KayPro up until 1993.
Recently I searched for information on the Kaypro on the Web and other than some pictures of the old machines I really found very little about the KayPro computers or company.
But then tonight I noticed a link to a Web site on the darn Coleco Adam and I found that there are still many devotees of the little system, many Web pages, and even complete systems for sell!! These people are still having conventions!! I would think it would be the other way around. It seems as the Kaypro should still have it's UG's and Web sites and the almost worthless Adam would be long forgotten.
Can somebody tell me why the Adam has enjoyed so much loyalty from people 14 years after the two year poduction run ended in bankruptcy?
I really am mystified by this.
Jim
If the TRS-80 disks are DD you can usually read them OK, but SD needs some
other computer (Model I, III, 4, Coco etc.)
Neil Morrison
email:morrison@t-iii.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arfon Gryffydd [SMTP:arfonrg@texas.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 8:21 AM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Archiving old discs...
>
> I picked up an AppleII CP/M card and software yesterday and causes me to
> raise a question...
>
> I have a ton of old 5.25" discs from TRS-80's, Apples and etc. Can I use a
> IBM Compatible and a disc image program (like scopy) to archive these
> discs? If not, how can I archive these programs?
>
> Thanks
>
> A
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Well of course the Model 100 from Rad Shack is eternally popular and useful,
and there are many (such as me) who keep their Color Computers also.
Neil Morrison
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim [SMTP:DD950@prodigy.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 9:52 AM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Re: Why is the Coleco Adam so damn popular?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles E. Fox <foxvideo(a)wincom.net>
> > I think it is human sympathy for an underdog. I'm told the reason people
> >AT FIRST bought the VW Beetle was because it was so homely. (Don't shoot,
> I
> >had one in 1956.)
> >
> > Regards
> > Charlie Fox
> >
>
>
>
> If that is it, then it would be an interesting ploy for a marketing
> department. Although, I took such a course at the local community college
> once and we discussed the COORS beer underdog marketing campaign of the
> early and mid 70's. Seems they successfully exploited the underdog thing
> some felt.
>
> Yes, everybody laughed at the Beetle, and bought one.
>
> Whatever, it is amazing at all the Web sites and new equipment for sell on
> the Web for the Coleco Adam. I paid $800 for mine in May 1984 and that
> was/is not really that cheap. There is not that much excitement left for
> Coleco's Cabbage Patch Dolls of that time. Those dolls were making
> headlines
> back then.
>
> Thanks for the input,
>
> Jim Rossbach, Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club, www.TonkinYachts.cjb.net
>
>
>
>
>>> Lawrence LeMay <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu> 09/09 7:14 PM >>>
>> > I came across a letter from someone who needs one of these to fix a valuable
>> > piece of equipment.
>> > Are there any still in existence?
>> >
>> > Neil Morrison
>> > email:morrison@t-iii.com
>> >
>>
>> They sell for over $300 each on ebay. yes, they still exist.
>>
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160258235
>
>With almost 9 days left, its already at $132.50 ... Hey, if you find a
>source thats giving em away, i'm sure i can find things that need them
>as well..
>
>-Lawrence LeMay
If you can find a Busicom Model 141-PF desktop calculator, you can pull the 4004 chip right off the board. Perhaps others know of other models that used the 4004.
!
!
!
Which Model ??? Z-80 or 6809?
If you have any docs, I have a couple of web pages where I am posting
whatever docs I can find:-
http://homepages.msn.com/Arcade/colorcomputer/index.htmlhttp://homepages.msn.com/WindowsWay/t80/index.html
If all else fails, I'd like any docs, or copies of same.
Neil Morrison
ph: (604) 293-5710
email:morrison@t-iii.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John C. Mitchell [SMTP:jcmitch@fcc.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 7:55 AM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: TSR 80
>
> I have a TSR 80 that is tape driven not disk driven. I also have a
> number of games for it. Is this worth anything.
>
> John C. Mitchell
>
Bragging part:
I just got a TRS-80 Model 12!! I just got a TRS-80 Model 12!! nyah nyah!!
It's un-opened!!! It's un-opened!!! WHOO HOO!!!!
Dilemma:
Should I open it and smellthe sweet scent of the ancient '80's air trapped
in it's plastic bags or let it be, and keep it's un-opened pristine
state??? A virgin. Un-touched by end-user hands.
I really don't have any software for it... what should I do???
A
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It would be interesting to find out what something like that would bring on
eBay. You could list it with a very high reserve that would most likely
never be met, just to see what something like that is now worth.
We might be pleasantly surprised, or then again, we might find out that most
people do not share our passion for old computers and you have only an
interesting box of old stuff. You pay shipping, :-(
Anyway, keep us informed.
Jim Rossbach, Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club Web Ring, www.TonkinYachts.cjb.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: Arfon Gryffydd <arfonrg(a)texas.net>
>Well, I have decided to let it be for now. I am worried that there might be
>critters (bugs) in there (through the hand-holes). I don't want to put it
>on eBay because I am not out to make $$$.
>
>All I need to find is a 3x3x3 glass box and a tank of nitrogen. (And a
>borescope so I can look at it).
>
This might be a bit off of at least the current topics, but probably the best place to ask this question.
I have to admit i bought one of the Coleco Adam computers in the summer of 1984 (The Adam bomb). I soon found that it really didn't work and like most I returned it to Toy-R-Us for a refund.
I bought a KayPro 2X then and was very happy with it. Used it up until 1993.
>I picked up an AppleII CP/M card and software yesterday and causes me to
>raise a question...
>
>I have a ton of old 5.25" discs from TRS-80's, Apples and etc. Can I use a
>IBM Compatible and a disc image program (like scopy) to archive these
>discs?
In some cases, yes, you can use something like Teledisk to make foreign
disk images on the PC. In other cases (most notably Apple floppies) only
the original hardware on the Apple, or very specialized hardware
on the PC, can read/write the disks.
> If not, how can I archive these programs?
You can read, for example, Apple disks on the Apple and move the image
data over a serial cable to a PC (or your favorite workstation/mini/mainframe).
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