In a message dated 9/15/99 11:32:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
healyzh(a)aracnet.com writes:
> >
> > If I remember, someone marketed an apple II on a card that fit in an ISA
> PC.
> > I don't remember how the drives hooked up but I do remember the software
> that
> > came with it included Central Point's drive conversion program. It would
> read
> > Apple at the very least. I had two of these NIB at one time.
> > Anyone else know of these?
> > Paxton
> >
>
> Could you be thinking of one of the Apple ][ on a board cards that were
> available in the late 80's? I know Apple made one that went in a Mac LC,
> and I think at least one company made them for the PC. You could attach a
> genuine Apple ][ drive to one of these cards.
>
> Zane
>
there was something called the trackstar which allowed pretty good //e
emulation. A disk ][ plugged into the adaptor card so essentially you had the
real thing.
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If I remember, someone marketed an apple II on a card that fit in an ISA PC.
I don't remember how the drives hooked up but I do remember the software that
came with it included Central Point's drive conversion program. It would read
Apple at the very least. I had two of these NIB at one time.
Anyone else know of these?
Paxton
In a message dated 9/15/99 11:35:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, marvin(a)rain.org
writes:
> One of the things I picked up (at TRW!) a few years ago was a shrink-wrapped
> copy of IBM PC-DOS 1.1 w/ Graphics. I have had the urge to open it up, but
I
> haven't yet and really don't plan to open it. The main reason for opening
it
> is curiousity as to what was included in the package. I have no intentions
> of using it, and somewhere I have another DOS 1.1 system disk that I can
> play with if so inclined.
>
> My general rule of thumb is leave it shrinkwrapped until a *compelling*
> reason comes along to actually open the package.
I agree. i actually found wrapped packages of OS/2 versions 1.1 and 1.3
cheap. I opened the 1.3 version only to install it on an old 286to see what
it was like.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Glenatacme(a)aol.com <Glenatacme(a)aol.com>
>I'm not familiar with the Adam. When you say it "really didn't work," do
you
>mean:
>
>1) it was poorly designed
>2) it was poorly manufactured
>3) it was a PITA to use or program
>
The easy answer would be all three, but it was a decent 1983-4 design, the
printer quality control left a lot to be desired, but it was a daisy wheel
printer for a very cheap price back then. (note: the Adam came with the
printer, basic, and a word processor for $800 in 1984, the KayPro 2X with a
Juki 6100 Daisy wheel printer I replaced the Adam with costs $1750.)
I found you would not want to trust the printer to print out your work on
deadline. It might take you a long time to get the formatting correct.
It was definetily a PITA to use and program, and program you did. At least
you typed in basic programs form listings in books and magazines.
My first and last project was to type in a basic progam to make a mailing
list for my customers. I never could get it to work and finally found the
authors telephone number and called him. He immediately admitted the
program didn't work as Coleco had shipped a different version of basic than
the one they had given him to work with. He also confirmed that the printer
was "very difficult" to get to print correctly. He also admitted that he
was without a current Adam as he himself had returned two machines for
refunds.
I think later the basic was improved and the printer was improved.
>
>"Really didn't work" sounds as if _nothing_ useful could be done with the
>machine, no matter the skills and/or perseverance of the user.
I think as time went on, there were some useful filing, spreadsheet, and
better word pocessing progams for the Adam. They could not have been any
worse anyway :-)
There was a lot of talk of CP/M for the Adam while I had one, I don't know
if that ever happened.
>
>More plainly stated: are these things _totally_ _crap_ ??? I like
>collecting the smaller machines, but don't wish to waste my time if the
Adam
>"really doesn't work."
>
>
No, not total loss, but darn close IMHO. As I remember, I could always type
something into the Adam, and then play hell trying to get the thing to give
it back to me out of the printerr in some kind of recognizable form.
With all the activity yet, they are not rare I guess. Perhaps the Adam
bomb has earned it's place in any well stocked collection. There appears to
be plenty of information on the Web surprisingly, to get you started visit:
http://www.flash.net/~coleco/start.htm
Good luck,
Jim Rossbach, Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club, www.TonkinYachts.cjb.net
You've heard it said that the early bird gets the worm? Well the second
mouse gets the cheese ! (W. Rian Adams)
On 25th September, AD 1999, will occur YATS. (Yet Another TRW
Swapmeet).
The swapmeet is held in El Segundo, a suburb of Los Angeles, CA,
USA, at the TRW facility. It is open from 7:00 to 11:30 Am local
(pacific) time. There is no charge for buyer entry.
From the 405 (San Diego) freeway, take the Rosecrans exit and
proceed West on Rosecrans approximately 1 mile, to the intersection
of Aviation and Rosecrans. Turn left (south) on Aviation, and go
south about 1/2 mile. The TRW plant will be on your right as you go
south. Find a place to park and join us.
I will be happy to entertain any classiccmpers who wish to show
up... my spaces are J21 and 23. Marvin threatens to attend this
month's Event, so between him and myself (and maybe Mike Ford) there
will be nothing Good left. On second thought... don't bother. It's
too early, and we're sure you have plenty of Saturday chores to get
done.
But if you *do* show up, please come by and say "G'Day, Mate!". If
there is sufficient interest, a post-swap Brag-n-Brunch will be held
at a local greasy spoon. [We have had upwards of 15 folk at these
soirees.] Also, there is always space for a few items that you may
wish to expose to the Buying Public. Contact me via private e-mail
and we'll sort out the logistics.
NOTE: The swapmeet venue is due to be moved in December, ie., the
last Meet in the present location will be November's. As of now, it
is anticipated that the move will be to another parking lot a block
away, but no confirmation of that is in hand. So.... get it while
the gettin's good.
Cheers
John
In a message dated 9/14/99 9:50:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Glenatacme(a)aol.com writes:
> Jim wrote:
>
> In a message dated 09/14/1999 6:21:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> DD950(a)prodigy.net writes:
>
> > I have to admit i bought one of the Coleco Adam computers in the summer
of
>
> > 1984 (The Adam bomb). I soon found that it really didn't work and like
> most
> > I returned it to Toy-R-Us for a refund.
>
> I'm not familiar with the Adam. When you say it "really didn't work," do
> you
> mean:
>
> 1) it was poorly designed
> 2) it was poorly manufactured
> 3) it was a PITA to use or program
>
> ??
>
> "Really didn't work" sounds as if _nothing_ useful could be done with the
> machine, no matter the skills and/or perseverance of the user.
>
> More plainly stated: are these things _totally_ _crap_ ??? I like
> collecting the smaller machines, but don't wish to waste my time if the
Adam
>
> "really doesn't work."
>
> TIA,
well, supposedly there were various applications for it, so you could process
words or do the ubiquitous home budgeting. it had a built-in printer which
was handy and the built-in basic was very similar to applesoft. only thing
you had to remember is not to leave a data tape in the drive when turning it
on or the tape's info will be destroyed.
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In a message dated 9/15/99 12:29:50 AM US Eastern Standard Time, some spammer
scum wrote:
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>
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>
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LARTs sent to flash.net; thanks to spamcop.net !
The recent spam to the list has been traced back to its source and
reported. I will say only that the attempt at header forgery, on the part
of the spammer, was somewhere between insignificant and pathetic.
Then again, given the average intelligence level (or lack thereof) on the
part of your typical chickenboner, this comes as no surprise whatsoever.
In this case, the spam originated from a Los Angeles dialup node belonging
to flash.net.
I will advise the list of any response I receive.
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I think you're right. You are the second person to ID the cards as from an early memory typewriter. I should have mentioned in my earlier post that each of the cards was paperclipped to a carbon copy of a document. Based on the length of the documents, these cards didn't hold much.
I have posted a scan of a couple of these cards at http://home.earthlink.net/~wmsmith/_uimages/IBMCards.jpg to the extent that it helps in further IDing them.
Thanks.
>>>> "Merle K. Peirce" <at258(a)osfn.org> 09/14 2:16 AM >>>
>Sounds like a magcard, probably from an old MagcardII typewriter or a
>Displaywriter.
>
>On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Wayne Smith wrote:
>
>> I was just going through a box of old files (circa 1970) that my office is throwing out and I found four cards that I need an ID on. >>They are the same size and shape as a standard puch card, but appear to be made of some sort of magnetic media. They are >>approximately the color of standard magnetic cassette tape on one side, and nearly black on the other. Each card has "IBM" >>printed on it in white with a direction arrow next to it in one corner of the card directly opposite the notch. In the corner with the >>notch there are two groups of 3 digits, also in white.
>>
>> The cards have what appear to be track marks on them in three parallel rows on the horizontal, as if fed through a reader.
>>
>> Thanks. If it would be useful I post a scan of one of these.
>>
>
>M. K. Peirce
>Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
>215 Shady Lea Road,
>North Kingstown, RI 02852
>
>"Casta est qui nemo rogavit."
>
> - Ovid
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