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Mike
Subject: Dec5000/20 needs a home
From: Rick Compton <Rick_Compton(a)siebestc.com>
Date: Thu, Mar 25, 1999 13:42 EST
Message-id: <36FA837A.FF4A1791(a)siebestc.com>
I hate to just throw the old gal away but I'm not willing to invest a
lot of money in shipping it around the world either. The DEC and I
reside in Richmond, VA. Does anybody want it bad enough to come after
it? Any suggestions?
The other gotcha on this one is that it's not Monsterboard, the well-known
online job search company, but Monsterbook -- anybody ever heard of it
before?
Sort of an online version of getting a swell Alphine car stereo or
Panaphonic VCR at your local discounters -- close, but no banana...
-- Tony
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From: Jim Strickland [SMTP:jim@calico.litterbox.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 1999 12:27 AM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: Re: <OT> Free stock shares
Um no.
What it SAYS is:
"As a special promotion, MonsterBook.com has announced that if and
when it files
for an Initial Public Offering of shares in the future, within 1
month after
the Public Offering of shares it will give you $10 cash (US
Currency) for every
friend you referred to MonsterBook.com who subscribed before May 1,
1999.
Should you earn a Referral Bonus under this promotion, you will be
able to
choose to receive your Bonus as a cash payment, or to apply it
toward the
purchase of stock in MonsterBook.com. See agreement below for
details "
Which means after the stock has gone through its IPO gyrations, THEN
they
give you your 10 dollars toward stock. AND, according to the fine
print,
"This offer is limited to the first 1 million people to subscribe to
receive
the free MonsterBook Internet Directory in the mail, and the maximum
Referral
Bonus to be paid to any one person will be $500. "
It's not a BAD deal, assuming the company lasts long enough to issue
stock
(and considering they're offering to flush capital down the toilet
like that
I wouldn't hold my breath) but it sure as heck isn't free stock.
>
> A US company is giving away free shares (like Yahoo did
> at its beginning). They're called Monsterboard and are pretty
big.
> go to : http://www.monsterbook.com/SignUp2.asp
> and sign up, all they want is your demographics. If you don't
mind,
> please give them my referral No. ( 277673 ). Hurry, they are only
> taking the first one million people. They will probably have that
> many within about 24 hours.
>
> If this is an imposition, don't bother with my referral No. If
you
> wish, register all by yourself. They just want name and address
> and e-mail address. Since many of you already make that
available,
> on this list, I doubt they would have any more information.
>
> Sincerely yours,
>
> Jerome Fine
>
--
Jim Strickland
jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com
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At 09:36 AM 3/22/99 -0800, you wrote:
>> to too high. Some firm's engineer will probably guess right, but
>> that firm won't win the auction. The winner will be the firm whose
>> engineer was the most overoptimistic. The winning firm won't
>> ultimately get as much oil as their engineers promised, meaning the
>> firm paid too much. In short, the auction "winner" is
Right. But, on eBay, nobody bids on "*Rare* Old computer! Could be an
Altair, could be a C-64! Bid first, find out later!".
>> This is a particularly clear example because the thing being
>> auctioned will have a definite value in the future that is
>> unknowable at present. But the winner's curse afflicts auction
eBay is not selling futures. It's selling objects which (at least in terms
of classic computers) are not being purchased (by us, anyway) with plans to
resell at a profit. So for us, if we think an altair is worth $10, and
we're outbid, we lose nothing.
The guy who bids $10K and wins, may feel it is worth that much to easily
and quickly obtain something they want. Again, no problem.
The guy who bids $10K and wins, hoping to sell later for more money is
either a) a shrewd investor and we're all just jealous, or b) an idiot who
is going to lose his shirt. In the case of the latter, all it means is
that we have to wait to get the altair for $10 until the fad dies down and
we see naked guys wandering the street carrying altairs. (anyone see that
beyond.com ad during the oscars? That's me. Only not so thin or good
looking, unfortunately.)
It's called Delay of gratification. Learn to be patient, all will come to
you in its time. 8^)
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Hi,
Does anyone happen to have, in some vast catacombs of old manuals/docs,
the jumper info for a Panasonic JU-475-2GRJ 5 1/4" floppy drive? Or maybe
you can shed some light on what the following sections/jumpers might do?
DS/MX
DO/DC
LR/RD
DD/IX/SP
AT/AX
BX/CX
HM/HS/HL
MS/MM/HA/OA/DA
I'm trying to get this drive working with my ATR8000 (recently resurrected
>from the dead) and am not having much luck formatting disks with it. Any
help would be much appreciated.
Aaron
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> From: Ward D. Griffiths III <gram(a)cnct.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: Museums
> Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 1:14
> (The FCC stepped in because of complaints
> from the close neighbors of folks running TRS-80 Model Ones (or Apple IIs
> or Commodore Pets or S-100 boxen) on the other side of an unshielded wall
> from a television with rabbit ear antenna in apartment buildings).
Our Spectrum Management Agency (or whatever it's called this week) has a
less enduser friendly attitude towards dipsticks in fringe areas that think
they should be able to watch marginal signals on "rabbit ears" inside a
substantial building.
It amounts to "Get an outdoor antenna." No outdoor antenna, no valid
grounds for complaint. There are no specific regs regarding emf emission
>from computers, they have put the onus on the RECEIVER manufacturer to
ensure adequate filtering & shielding from unwanted signals. The CB fad of
the 70's was a direct cause of this, after it was discovered that perfectly
functional CB's would drive certain televisions berserk because of stupid
choices of IF frequencies (Amongst other "They did WHAT!" type design, um,
features.)
If you have a properly installed external antenna (Yagi of some kind - cut
for the channels you are trying to receive) and proper coax feed into the
set, and you are STILL getting interference, only then will they look into
it.
This attitude has cured enormous numbers of problems.
Cheers
Geoff Roberts
Computer Systems Manager
Saint Marks College
Port Pirie, South Australia
geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au
I found a couple of these surplus. They're external 5 1/4" floppy drives
and appear to have a SCSI connector. Does anyone know what system they're
for? Are they SCSI? What voltage and polarity is the external power
supply? Any details appreciated.
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Smith <eric(a)brouhaha.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: Museums
>John Lawson wrote:
>> So, okay.. I volunteer to hold a DEC-oriented 'open house' (my
>> house...) once a month after the TRW swap meet here in Southern
>> California. If anyone is interested, let me know.
>
>Well, geez! You rotten &*$%! :-)
ok, now how close are you to an airport again? :)
- Mike: dogas(a)leading.net
<pre>
I found a couple of these surplus. They're external 5 1/4" floppy drives
and appear to have a SCSI connector. Does anyone know what system they're
for? Are they SCSI? What voltage and polarity is the external power
supply? Any details appreciated.
</pre>
They are SCSI and with the appropriate software would allow one to read
PC-format disks on a Mac. Not sure about the adapter, but I *think* one
can still find the software at:
ftp://ftp.dayna.com/Pub/Macintosh/DaynaFile/
A couple of notes: 1) They've been discontinued for quite a while, so I
don't know how well it will work with newer OS releases. 2) Apparently,
they equipped them with different types of drives as I've seen ones with
360K, 1.2MB, and even 1.44MB floppy drives.
I have to confess that I wouldn't mind finding a cheap one to play
with. Unfortunately, the ones I've seen always seem to be out of my
range.
<<<john>>>
On 25 Mar 99 at 12:21, Joe wrote:
> I found a couple of these surplus. They're external 5 1/4" floppy
drives
> and appear to have a SCSI connector. Does anyone know what system they're
> for? Are they SCSI? What voltage and polarity is the external power
> supply? Any details appreciated.
These probably come under the ten year rule. The oldest ones could be
about twelve years old but they were made for several years.
They are for reading DOS format 5.25" floppies on a Mac. Dayna made
several variants for reading 360K and 1200K disks. I think that
you'l need a system extension as well as the hardware itself.The
drives should work on virtually any SCSI capable Mac, but they are
>from the Mac II generation so don't be surprised if they're
incompatible with recent system software.
Dayna don't have a great record of supporting older hardware, alas.
However these things do pop up rather a lot and the power supply pin
outs have been posted on the comp.sys.mac.* news groups in the last
year or so, so check out DejaNews.
Phil
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University of Leicester
Tel (0)116 252-2231
E-Mail pb14(a)le.ac.uk
On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Andrew Davie wrote:
> Hi Guys and Gals.
> No, I'm not "back" but thought you might like an interesting read.
> I've been working on interviewing Jon Titus, the creator of the first "home"
> computer, the Mark-8 Minicomputer - which was featured in the July 1974
> issue of Radio Electronics.
Very nice! Hope this might inspire more people to efforts like this. It
is a part of the history that really needs to be documented!
> ... One image, of
> the RE front cover - was sent to me or I grabbed it from some website - but
> alas I can't remember where or by whom. So, if it's yours please contact me
> and I'll talk to you about copyright/image theft, etc.
Well... judging from the file name, and the (not always subtle) Photoshop
cleanup work... B^} It came from my site. You are welcome to it
regardless. (at least as much as I can say that, not being a legal
representitive of Gernsback Publications) ;^}
Only thing I might suggest, would be the addition of a copyright
attribution. (which I do in the 'alt' fields of the image link)
> Without further ado, point your browser to
> http://www.comcen.com.au/~adavie/weird/mark8b.html
> I'd really like some feedback on this one - it's taken a fair bit of work!
I tried to reply but the mail bounced... In any case...
THanks for your efforts! A valuable insight!
Regards;
-jim
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