Hi Joe,
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> From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: Question regarding a VAXstation
> Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 11:07 AM
> I didn't know you were into Vaxs. I just found a 4000/90 but I've
> already promised it to another list meember.
If you "find" another one, i would be happy to take it ;-))
(looking already for a while)
cheers,
emanuel
At 09:10 PM 3/25/99 -0800, you wrote:
>
>The guy whose website the picture of old, rotting video game cabinets
>resides on is haynesdl(a)nwfl.net.
>
>He lives in Cape Canaveral, Florida.
Hey, that's close to me! I'm not interested in video games but I'll
offer to help anyone tht wants to try and save the stuff.
Joe
Carlos,
Good luck getting the VAX stuff. Perhaps you should volunteer to get it
out of their way. Grab everything you can, someone will want it.
BTW I got the tapes from Dan, lots of interesting looking stuff there.
I'll make you copies of some 85 tapes and send them as soon as I can.
Which disk drive did you say that you had, a 9121 or 9122?
Joe
At 09:09 PM 3/25/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Hi Joe;
>
>I guess I am just beginning to diversify into VAX/VMS :-) .
>I had been curious about it always. Here at the office
>we have a pile of equipment that we don't want to throw
>away, but we are not using. Lately, the space is getting
>crowded, and I sense that people a couple of steps higher
>in the chain of command are going to do something about it.
>Therefore, I decided to test some of this stuff to see if
>it works, so I can claim it early before they decide to
>throw it away.
>
>
>On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, Joe wrote:
>
>> At 04:49 PM 3/25/99 -0500, you wrote:
>> Ahh! Another lucker finally speaks up! Hi Carlos!
>> I didn't know you were into Vaxs. I just found a 4000/90 but I've
>> already promised it to another list meember.
>>
>> Joe
>
> I don't know if $500 is the right number either, but I figure that in a
>"new" IMSAI 8080 kit in low quantities, there'd be at least $75 in boards,
>$100++ for the case, $50 for the power supply, $25 for a silkscreened front
>panel and the rest, silicon, passives, switches, and the backplane
>connectors. And that doesn't iinclude any re-engineering costs to account
>for parts that have been discontinued or marked as "end-of-life."
You forgot one vital component: the switches. The 7101 and 7103 series
switches used in the IMSAI front panel are still available new from C&K,
at $5-$6 each. They start adding up fast! And cost of a full-length (22-
slot) backplane would come to around $150-$200 these days. (Though you
could easily argue that now that we have memory boards larger than 4kbytes
you don't need all those slots, all of my real IMSAI's have 22-slot
backplanes...!)
A year or so ago I looked at what it would cost to make my "TIMSAI" IMSAI
clone into a commercial product. Street price, I calculated, would be about
$2000, and most of that was in the metalworking. There was only about $30
in semiconductors in the whole unit (and that included 256K SRAM and an
IDE/floppy controller).
--
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The guy whose website the picture of old, rotting video game cabinets
resides on is haynesdl(a)nwfl.net.
He lives in Cape Canaveral, Florida.
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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Don't rub the lamp if you don't want the genie to come out.
Coming in 1999: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0
See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details!
[Last web site update: 02/15/99]
I would like to find at least one, maybe two, *working* RL11
Controller card(s) [M7762] with accompanying flat cable and adapter
to RL01/2 cables. I have many Unibus cards to trade, other things to
trade, and/or cash as well. GPIB cables, anyone?? ;}
Also fun would be an engineering schematic for it (them).
I have nine (count 'em: 9) RL02s, over sixty RL02 packs, and only
one controller card.
Thanks in Advance....
Cheerz
John
First of all, let me introduce myself to the list. My name
is Carlos Murillo, computer enthusiast and HP collector, though
my collection is still pretty small. Many of my choices when
it comes to computing are influenced by my addiction to automation
and data aquisition.
I have been lurking for a few weeks now, and I have learned a lot
about classic computing from the members of the list. Thanks
to you all. Now, I would like to ask for advice:
I have a VAXstation 4000/60 sitting in front of me. I have
been told that this ran ok about 8 years ago; I really don't
know if this fits the topic of the list (I guess it could
be slightly newer than 10 years). The thing is, it
won't boot. When it is turned on, it flashes several colors
on the monitor, it tests its 16M of RAM and then it aborts
and dumps me to some sort of monitor program. This is what
the screen shows:
KA46-A V1.1-31E-V4.0
08-00-2B-2A-F8-AB
16MB
<bargraph representing memory tested here>
?? 003 3 DZ 0112 <---loud beep heard here
>>> _
I played with several of the monitor commands; in particular,
here are two that seem to give some info about this machine:
>>> show dev
VMS/VMB ADDR DEVTYPE NUMBYTES RM/FX WP DEVNAM REV
------- ---- ------- -------- ----- -- ------ ---
ESA0 08-00-2B-2A-F8-AB
DKA300 A/3/0 DISK 209.81MB FX RZ24 4041
..HostID.. A/6 INITR
>>> show config
KA46-A V1.1-31E-V4.0
08-00-2B-2A-F8-AB
16MB
DEVNBR DEVNAM INFO
------ ------ ---------------------------------------
1 NVR OK
2 LCG OK
HR - 8 PLN FB - V1.1
3 DZ ?? 003 0112
4 CACHE OK
5 MEM OK
16MB= SY=8MB, S0/1=8MB, S2/3=0MB, S4/5=0MB
6 FPU OK
7 IT OK
8 SYS OK
9 NI OK
10 SCSI OK
3-RZ24 6-INITR
11 AUD OK
Only device number 3, "DZ" seems to be faulty, and is the same
device appearing in the original error. What is this device?
Thanks for any help,
Carlos.
Thanks to everybody for the information. Indeed, the missing
mouse was the culprit. The next time it loaded VAX/VMS V 5.5;
it started by asking for the date, and I made the mistake
of actually providing the current date; as it loaded,
I got about a hundred instances of "license has expired for XXXXXXX",
with XXXXX being a bunch of installed software, including FORTRAN and
Pascal compilers and a lot of things that looked like networking stuff.
Oh, well, I guess that by booting the machine I have stripped
it of a lot of software. Finally, a login screen popped up,
but nobody around here remembers any user name or password.
It is the first time that I have seen a machine boot VMS. Nice.
Carlos.
On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, emanuel stiebler wrote:
> So plug in the keyboard,
>
> and type:
>
> B DKA300
>
> and wait what happen ...
>
> cheers,
> emanuel
Hi Carlos,
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> From: cem14(a)cornell.edu
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: Question regarding a VAXstation
> Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 6:56 PM
> it of a lot of software. Finally, a login screen popped up,
> but nobody around here remembers any user name or password.
The answer to this is in the OpenVMS FAQ ;-))
>
> It is the first time that I have seen a machine boot VMS. Nice.
YES !!!
cheers,
emanuel
At 04:49 PM 3/25/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>First of all, let me introduce myself to the list. My name
>is Carlos Murillo,
Ahh! Another lucker finally speaks up! Hi Carlos!
>I have a VAXstation 4000/60 sitting in front of me. I have
I didn't know you were into Vaxs. I just found a 4000/90 but I've
already promised it to another list meember.
Joe
