OK I've done some checking and found out that there is supposed to be a
parallel port availble inside the Lisa 2/10 (aka Mac XL). Does anyone know
where it is? What's it used for?
There are two serial ports on the back of the 2/10. Are they the same and
what are they used for or are they standard RS-232 ports?
This one came with an anti-glare filter in front of the CRT but the other
two didn't. Is this standard or was it an add-on?
Thanks for all the replys,
Joe
I picked up a Lisa today but it's missing the "V" key from the keyboard.
Is the keytop the same as that used on any of the other Apples or any other
computer?
I also got a ProFile external disk drive but no connecting cable. Is
this just a straight through cable? If not can someone post the pinouts?
Finally, I'm getting a memory error when it boots. It shows a picture
with MEM 2 folder crossed out and either "70" or "71" shown below it. Does
anyone know exactly what this means or how I can fix it?
Joe
Went to another one this morning. Didn't find much except three Lisas
(two Lisa 2s and one Lisa 2/10), two HP 715/50s, two Zorbas and a *NICE*
S-100 chassis made by TI. I managed to get the L 2/10 and the Zorbas.
Pictures and questions to follow.
Joe
PS the HPs are still available if anyone wants them.
Re: memory error. According to the table of memory errors, 70 means read/write error and 71 means parity error. Don't know if that helps at all...the whole error table is here:
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~woz/lisatech/page16_17.html
The same board failed in my Lisa 2 last summer. I guess try jiggling it, cleaning the contacts, looking for cracked solder points, etc.
Sun Remarketing sells the whole board (unless they've run out), but it's not exactly cheap -- around fifty bucks. And you have to get hold of the right guy on the phone, some of the younger sales reps have no clue that the company sells Lisa parts.
-- MB
--- You wrote:
I picked up a Lisa today but it's missing the "V" key from the keyboard.
Is the keytop the same as that used on any of the other Apples or any other
computer?
I also got a ProFile external disk drive but no connecting cable. Is
this just a straight through cable? If not can someone post the pinouts?
Finally, I'm getting a memory error when it boots. It shows a picture
with MEM 2 folder crossed out and either "70" or "71" shown below it. Does
anyone know exactly what this means or how I can fix it?
Joe
--- end of quote ---
At 02:32 PM 3/27/99 -0800, you wrote:
>My profile/lisa combonation operates with a straight 25 pin ribbon cable.
>
>George Rachor
Great! Thanks George.
Joe
While browsing at one of my local thrifts, I found a large number (20+) of
disk sets for Microsoft Windows/286. Each set seemed to be 3-4 disks
(Setup, Build, Options, PC Paintbrush ... can't remember what else). There
were no manuals, but the 5.25 disks seemed to be in good shape. Is anybody
interested in these? If so, I can pick them up tomorrow and make them
available to anybody who has a use for them. Let me know.
Mark "Would have bought them on principle but didn't have the cash on me"
Gregory
I'm not the guy to ask about the TI line, as I only had contact with it
once, in a TI sales office, but, . . . this IS a forum for people with
interests in ancient computing hardware . . .
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Just another Rinky-Dink Florida hamfest
>Dick,
>
> RATS! I think you're right! I just brought it in and checked. The slots
>are wider than S-100 and the card sockets are offset to one side so S-100
>cards hit one edge and won't go in. It also has a switcher power supply so
>it is regulated off the cards. Too bad, it is really a nice box. I may
>modify it back to S-100. Anyway what can you expect for $3?
>
> Do you know anything the TI computer? Is this worth leaving as is in
>hopes someone can use it or should I use it for a project box?
>
> Joe
>
>At 01:00 PM 3/27/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>I bet you're going to be disappointed in the TI chassis, Joe. TI made
(back
>>in the '70's) a line of their microcomputers which used a connector and a
>>card form-factor like the S-100, sort-of, but which wasn't S-100. One
easy
>>way to tell the difference, I believe is that the TI system, which I never
>>inspected, hence can't say for certain, used a global power supply rather
>>than the s-100's on-card local regulation. Their power and other supply
>>leads were in different places, too.
>>
>>Let me know if I'm wrong, Joe, as I hope you're getting something you can
>>use, but something tells me . . .
>>
>>Dick
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
>>To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
>><classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
>>Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 12:51 PM
>>Subject: Just another Rinky-Dink Florida hamfest
>>
>>
>>> Went to another one this morning. Didn't find much except three Lisas
>>>(two Lisa 2s and one Lisa 2/10), two HP 715/50s, two Zorbas and a *NICE*
>>>S-100 chassis made by TI. I managed to get the L 2/10 and the Zorbas.
>>>Pictures and questions to follow.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> PS the HPs are still available if anyone wants them.
>>>
>>
>>
>
In a message dated 3/27/99 3:20:11 PM Central Standard Time,
bluoval(a)mindspring.com writes:
> Complete Sun Sparc10 with lots of memory, big color display, tape drive.
> email your offer and questions. System currently running UNIX 4.1.2
>
Making an assumption he means SunOS 4.1.2,
ask lots of questions. Sparc 10's do not run SunOS 4.1.2.
Thought some might be interested.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Sparc10
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 11:46:26 -0500
From: "James H. McCann" <jhmcc(a)earthlink.net>
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
Newsgroups: alt.forsale
Complete Sun Sparc10 with lots of memory, big color display, tape drive.
email your offer and questions. System currently running UNIX 4.1.2
<Allison J Parent wrote:
<> I don't believe OSI ever did a 6100 based design (por any other PDP-8
<> compatable chip).
<
<Well, they tried to market the idea anyway. I have the document
<right here.
That may be possible. I never say any Byte/Interface Age/Kilobaud or
others advertizing much other than the 6502 pr the z80 based versions.
It was a sufficient depature from all the other systems as it's 12 bit
and the others were all 8bit data and 16bit address which is a tough fit
for a 6100 (12bit data/address) unless the MEDIC was added and then it
was 12data 15 address. the 1802, 2650 and a few otehr were a possible
fit.
The GI part someone was been thinking of is the 1600 series. I do have a
copy of Osborne's book _some real microprocessors_.
Allison
