>Now to go through the bring up for a machine that may have been sitting
>for too long. Any thoughts out there on the 8F power supply? I plan to
>pull all the cards and load it so I don't cook anything.
Didn't a post come through here just earlier today about someone
offering a pdp-8/f power supply for $30?
>This was a fun move and Megan made it easier to do it by being persistant
>and finding a good rental truck vendor with a liftgate. Nice truck!
>Everything moved and none broken. A handy item to have are the nylon web
>straps. They are handy to keep stuff on slides from sliding and also made
>securing the racks to the walls of the truck. Other things were plenty
>of rope and a good pair of movers dollies.
I'm going to document all that we used... since I'm taking chemistry,
it may just end up looking like a lab report... (abstract, apparatus
used, procedures, actual write-up)...
At this point I'd like to heartilly recommend Budget Rentals. They
do have lift-gate trucks... the one I got was 15' with 7' inside
vertical dimension. The truck is 11' total height, it handled really
well, and the 90 mile move was about $65 itself. Unfortunately, since
the budget place wasn't open today, I had to rent yesterday, for two
days, so the total price will be higher.
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com |
| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com |
| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' |
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| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
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I recently rented a Budget cargo van one-way from Seattle to Los
Angeles, and filled it with about 1.5 kilopounds of DEC Stuff.
I drove straight thru all one day. The van was comfortable,
handled well, got great gas mileage, with a handy cruise control.
1139 miles in 18 hrs.... but all-in-all a nice trip.
It was $269 plus the petrol... so if you're contemplating a
Rescue Mission, you might try your local Budget place.
And, I'm not a Budget employee, nor do I play one on Television!
Cheers
John
On Sun, 21 Mar 1999, Lawrence Walker <lwalker(a)mail.interlog.com> wrote:
> Would stand to reason AES would be a Canadian company. Dorsey now heads
> Voice and Data Systems. A major player in packet technology. Sounds like a
>
> minor version of Corel's Cowpland. Yes Virginia ,Canada does have a
> computer
> aristochracy.
>
Here in Ottawa, old AES boxes used to turn up fairly often. But I don't
recall if they were the 7100 model that Doug described. I think the
Canadian government must have used hundreds of the things for word
processing, and they used to show up in junk stores and even the occasional
garage sale. Haven't seen one for a while, Doug, but I will keep my eyes
open for boot disks or anything else AES, just in case. Also, if you need a
blank hard-sectored floppy to test-feed your uncooperative new house-guest,
send me your address and I'll pop one in the snail-mail.
--
Arlen Michaels amichael(a)nortelnetworks.com
>The problem in a nutshell, don't open any messages in a Microsoft E-Mail
>program with the following title "Important Message From: {persons name}".
The solution in a nutshell... run Linux, or some other more reasonable
OS...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com |
| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com |
| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' |
| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
I don't know how much a couple of hundred bucks is worth to you. You can
use an operational S-100 computer running CP/M, or even an 820 to run the
drive for alignement. Though I've had an alignment tool for many years, I
usually use a computer. It's the alignment diskettes that are scarce.
If you have a digital alignment diskette, made by Dysan, among others, and
the software to run one, it makes alignment easy. If you need to read a
5-1/4" floppy, a drive you can buy today won't help you much. I keep a half
dozen of the old DS minifloppies around.
regards,
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Sunday, March 28, 1999 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: Drive alignment tool, diskettes
>At 07:08 PM 3/28/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>If you have to align an 8"drive, the alignment diskette is pretty
essential,
>>i.e. you can't really do well without it.
>
> Yes I know, I used to repair and alignment drives. What I wanted to
>know is what the whole setup is worth and weather I should buy it. He
>wants a couple of hundred bucks for it. He said it cost ~$3500 new.
>
> The 5.25" diskettes are about as
>>easy to manage with software and one of the "digital alignment diskettes"
if
>>you can get them.
>
> I doubt 5.25" drives are worth reapiring, even if you could get the
parts.
>
> Joe
>>
>>Dick
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
>>To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
>><classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
>>Date: Sunday, March 28, 1999 6:46 PM
>>Subject: followup: Rinky dink hamfest
>>
>>
>>> Today I went to see a couple of the people that I meet at yesterday's
>>>hamfest. One of them used to service XEROX computers. He told me that he
>>>threw out three rooms full of old XEROX computers less than a year ago.
:-(
>>> He gave me part of the stuff that he had left, I have to take a Truck
>>>(note capital) back to get the rest (estimated at two cubic yards but no
>>>complete machines). So far I've found lots of docs and 8" flopppy disks
>>>for the 820 and 16/8. The 16/8 looks pretty interesting, it ran CPM,
>>>CPM-86 and MS-DOS. Does anyone have one of these? What's your opinion
of
>>>them?
>>>
>>> He has a floppy disk drive control box to manual operate 3.5", 5.25"
and
>>>8" drives during alignment. Anyone have an idea of what one of these is
>>>worth with the alignment disks and manuals?
>>>
>>> Alos found a Lisa mouse to go with the Lisa that I got yesterday.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>
>>
>
<>for too long. Any thoughts out there on the 8F power supply? I plan to
<>pull all the cards and load it so I don't cook anything.
<
<Didn't a post come through here just earlier today about someone
<offering a pdp-8/f power supply for $30?
I don't know this one is bad, only that I have to test it well before
subjecting boards to it. Even if it were bad I'd repair it, that part of
the fun.
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: Allison J Parent <allisonp(a)world.std.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, 29 March 1999 11:56
Subject: Re: The move is accomplished!
><I took pictures and hope to document the procedure at some point
><in the future...
Be interested to see them...
>Everything moved and none broken
Good catch / nice work ladies.
I have to move a 6410/6240/HSC70/RA9x/TA79 Cluster in a couple of weeks.
I hope it goes as well for me. (But it probably won't).
Cheers
Geoff Roberts
Computer Systems Manager
Saint Mark's College
Port Pirie, South Australia.
Email: geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au
ICQ #: 1970476
Phone: 61-8-8633-8834
Mobile: 61-411-623-978
Fax: 61-8-8633-0104
<The Xerox 820 is one I really liked for a while. It only supported
<single-sided single density drives, but had on-board terminal-style video
They were quite popular as when Zerox got out of cpm those were cheap and
common.
Other really nice boards were the amproLB and the SB180. the SB180 was
1985 design and offered the 64180 (z180) that had a MMU and a bit more
speed.
Allison
<I've been after the original spec's for the IMSAI pre-1977 bus timing, etc
<in case anyone has that data in shareable form.
Read the 8080 data sheet for the part running a 2mhz clock... the rest is
obvious to the point of painful.
<I've found the schematic for my IMSAI PIO-6 board but only half the manual
<fortunately with the schematic, of the PIO-4. I don't seem to have any bu
<timing informtion, though.
Thre wasn't any bus timing info published. The S100 bus was based on
the raw 8080 timing. All the bus was is the buffered 8080 signals plus a
few handy ones. A quick look at the processor board is everything.
Allison
At 07:56 AM 3/28/99 -0800, you wrote:
>
>Might this be a chassis for a TI9900 system, Allison?
Yeap, I think it is. I found "TM 990/520" marked on the MB. Guess I'll
leave it alone for the time being. Anybody need it? I have to get some of
this stuff out of here and I don't really have the room to keep it.
>
>If so, I'd leave it in tact as bait for the cards that go with it.
>Otherwise, if you modify it you'll attract S-100 cards with the edge
>connectors cut off. :(
Not if I move the MB over and modify the card cage.
Joe
