At 09:36 AM 3/22/99 -0800, you wrote: Right. But, on eBay, nobody bids on "*Rare* Old computer! Could be an Altair, could be a C-64! Bid first, find out later!". eBay is not selling futures. It's selling objects which (at least in terms of classic computers) are not being purchased (by us, anyway) with plans to resell at a profit. So for us, if we think an altair is worth $10, and we're outbid, we lose nothing. The guy who bids $10K and wins, may feel it is worth that much to easily and quickly obtain something they want. Again, no problem. The guy who bids $10K and wins, hoping to sell later for more money is either a) a shrewd investor and we're all just jealous, or b) an idiot who is going to lose his shirt. In the case of the latter, all it means is that we have to wait to get the altair for $10 until the fad dies down and we see naked guys wandering the street carrying altairs. (anyone see that beyond.com ad during the oscars? That's me. Only not so thin or good looking, unfortunately.) It's called Delay of gratification. Learn to be patient, all will come to you in its time. 8^) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/